TWG CLXXXI - TWGreeD - Game Thread

[MixMasterLar]

Re: TWGXXXI - TWGreeD - Game Thread

So unless I'm blind, no one has talked about this post much, and we really should. Because this is a dumbtell, right?



MML seems to be advocating for stating claims, and doing so would be potentially catastrophic. Obviously the wolves themselves would be aware of their own powers--so the question is whether the dumbtell is genuine or calculated. Given that roundbox sort of alluded to the sabotage issue in his prisoner's dilemma post, and MML apparently rolled right through that, I'm inclined to believe it's genuine and therefore exculpatory. MML's follow-up post:



Seems to be more or less in line with that mode of thinking; it seems to be kind of an "Oh, I see."

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Having said that, I also STRONGLY disagree with the idea of only announcing info given observable effects. Any blue roles expire at the end of each phase, and everyone can request a role/non-role again that same night. Thus, one's green or blue status is not fixed, and a roleclaim the next day doesn't make a player any more likely to be targeted in the future, since all roles are fluid.

Therefore, anyone and everyone that has a role should absolutely claim what they did the next day--it provides information without enabling wolf sabotage (since the next set of requests would have already been made) or making the claimant a more likely target.

What part of that is a dumbtell?
What the fuck are you going on about?
I'm against claiming btw since that looks to be in question.

Both you and indy have indirectly/directly presented an avenue to remove a player from the game not due to content or fact or rationale. You have both said the equivalent of “let’s lynch antiperal because he’ll be a no show. This feels like an attempt to powerwolf through a weak town player.

What worries me more is that people think it might be a decent idea. If I read correctly we don’t get cardflips, so not knowing antipearl’s alignment when he dies gives us nothing and no one to blame on either side. It’s a waste of a day phase pursuing it and simple feels wolf driven.



I like sytho because she felt similarly about your cagey “I’ll lynch anyone under 5 posts post”

And I have all sorts of different feelings on sunfan right now, I like his current position on pearl, but that read could vacillate somewhat wildly as the game progresses depending on what pearl does or doesn’t do.

This is a lot more then I expected and I like it.

You 're wrong tho.

Yeah, I am not comfortable with this anti-anti-pearl continuation from previous games. If he is going to get in trouble for lack of posts, I say let that happen and play out as it will. It is way too easy for the wolves to off anti-pearl with no need to worry about flips showing any association with one another.

Sure, inactivity has been an issue recently with a number of players. But eh, I would rather read based on what is actually happening than to eliminate those who aren't up to par with participation. At this point. I only ever used to play games with no cardflips... so this is pretty normal to me. One of the reasons I wanted to play.

Anyone who is jumping on anti-pearl I am pretty weary of. I agree with manti though, that sunfan could go either way.

I fucking refuse to get to final five with 4 inactives

[MixMasterLar]

Re: TWGXXXI - TWGreeD - Game Thread

Everyone with that "let the host replace them" shit:

GAME TOOK FOREVER TO FILL THERE ARE LIKELY NO REPLACEMENTS READY YET THIS IS SUCH A BAD POINT TO ANGLE SHOOT WITH

[MixMasterLar]

Re: TWGXXXI - TWGreeD - Game Thread

Will be back before eod

[the sun fan]

Re: TWGXXXI - TWGreeD - Game Thread

Everyone with that "let the host replace them" shit:

GAME TOOK FOREVER TO FILL THERE ARE LIKELY NO REPLACEMENTS READY YET THIS IS SUCH A BAD POINT TO ANGLE SHOOT WITH

oh man this one is worth 2 bingo spaces

[Syhto]

Re: TWGXXXI - TWGreeD - Game Thread

Yeah... I mean I don't disagree that it is fucking ridiculous that anti-pearl is so inactive. But 1 the host allowed it, fully aware it had been a problem. 2 you cant deny that now may not be the best time to get rid of them, when it is possible still there could be a sub. You don't know that he won't be replaced. And we don't know if he won't show up yet still either...

They do know the game is on though right? Who else is super inactive atm? What is with the 4 inactives bit?

[DaBackpack]

Re: TWGXXXI - TWGreeD - Game Thread

mixmasterlar

You are being pretty forward, trying to start posting before day phase even began, bringing up inactivity quickly and making calls about it. It may just be that you are eager to play, but, to me you seem a bit jumpy and it makes you seem more like a wolf than anyone else currently.

This is the first serious read in this game, and actually happened in the middle of the shitposting phase. Who's actually the eager one here?

it's an easy enough thing to notice and "put a read to" in order to seem ahead of the curve but it's a nothing-read

[inDheart]

Re: TWGXXXI - TWGreeD - Game Thread

people not being mongoloids and openly strategizing whether they'll take the power or not? why wait for it to happen and then scream at the person for doing it?

I swear people will never agree with me on any sort of strategy in a mystery game ever
it's an inevitability at this point

wait am i screwin it up

if you're saying "don't openly strategize" then i agree with you and we're on the same page

i'm just like, ??? at how divorced not openly strategizing is from what we do in other games, but i see further down you're talking about the selection thing, i think, rather than actually using powers

so ok that's something. i think it's like, similar in that it just paints a target on you for the following night when said power would be active

[DaBackpack]

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The notion that wolves are "jumpy" day 1 on this site is so laughably wrong.

got em

[Charu]

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They do know the game is on though right?

They must've since, as stated, they're very much still in the game and not replaced as per stated by the host message in twilight.

[inDheart]

Re: TWGXXXI - TWGreeD - Game Thread

it's different in the fact that people can opt to receive a power or not

the only diminishing returns that are possible asking for more powers are:
1) weaker powers in large quantities
2) if wolves guess number of roles within 1, half of the roles get sabotaged

I would say that this is different than "what we do every game" easily
not to mention most people shot it down and defaulted to the "what we do every game" mindset

like, if you're arriving at "it's a personal decision and so we shouldn't talk about which end of it we're on publicly", that's what i'm thinking of as ~every game

people who are PRs in a conventional game don't want to show it abundantly so they can get mileage. it's still hidden info type stuff

[DaBackpack]

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Oh. I havent played with you guys a lot, so please pardon my "fucking wrong", "stupid contrived" reasons for voting for you half way through the first day phase. Thanks for the reaction though, good insight.

Also, I'd rather try and start talking and voting for people now than just wagon on a random person at the last moment. That seems to not do so well, and would probably be better than you guys shooting the shit until it SUDDENLY ~gets tense~

has syhto ever played before?

[DaBackpack]

Re: TWGXXXI - TWGreeD - Game Thread

Good luck with that. Nothing's happened yet except you 're tryharding. Which I mean it seems by your reasoning would make you a wolf but I don't think That's a solid enough action to vote someone seriously halfway through D0

lar's town

[Wayward Vagabond]

Re: TWGXXXI - TWGreeD - Game Thread

Syhto rolled wolf two times in a row iirc

[DaBackpack]

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to be fair, some wolves are jumpy

what is the point of this post sunfan?

[inDheart]

Re: TWGXXXI - TWGreeD - Game Thread

Also all I said was I was going to pick between inactives.


When the fuck did that turn into "Lynch Pearl"

It smells of ulterior motives if you ask me, and while Charu first mentioned anti pearl, it's InD's vote that smells the worst

i think you answered your own question to manti there