TWG CLXXXI - TWGreeD - Game Thread

[roundbox]

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Inactive lynches are better early than later, gotta go big or go home later in the game
But nah, I'm not into lynching that slot quite yet because we don't get nearly as much information as other games considering cardlips are off. If they're a wolf, we'd only discover by a psychic ability and even then it probably wouldn't tell us shit

[roundbox]

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Either way, the prisoner's dilemma goes something like this:

Two prisoners are brought in for a crime they committed together. They're taken to separate cells and questioned individually. For fun, let's call them prisoner Apple and prisoner Banana.
The cop on their case tells them that they have two options: they can confess or keep quiet. If both Apple and Banana confess, they'll both serve 5 years. If Apple confesses but Banana keeps quiet, Apple will serve 2 years and Banana will serve 15 years (and vice versa). If they both stay quiet, they serve 10 years.

What decision is the best? Sell out your partner and get less time if they keep quiet? Is it worth risking 10 years to stay true to your teammate, or do you lack trust?

This relates to taking the power at night vs not taking it. Are you confident enough in your own abilities to make whatever power you get work best for you? Or do you think too many people will take the option of potentially selling out their teammates if too many take it?

I think this is an internal decision; too much open planning benefits the wolves since they can sabotage us with some pretty easy accuracy (especially later in the game, holy fuck).
I'm open for discussion on this since this is better quashed earlier than later.

[MixMasterLar]

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Also, no one said you overreacted? I think Shyto did though, but I didn't think it strange, I just thought it was funny because of her viewpoint (which is right)

Was in response to Raeko

to me it looks like lar kinda overreacted but i don't think that really means anything

This game is a great time to talk about the prisoner's dilemma in regards to the greed element

I thought about mass claiming while at work yesterday but since we can't tell what roles are possible that only benefits wolves.

I thought about just claiming if you asked for a role or not. Wolves probably already have an idea since their roles are affected by how many of us ask to be blue so that information probably benefits town a little more---but in the event only 2 of us asked that straight up tells the wolves who's the strongest and who to kill so I don't really favor this plan either.

I think if town ever does claim anything it's after some tangible effects happen.

Inactive lynches are better early than later, gotta go big or go home later in the game
But nah, I'm not into lynching that slot quite yet because we don't get nearly as much information as other games considering cardlips are off. If they're a wolf, we'd only discover by a psychic ability and even then it probably wouldn't tell us shit

Agree with the first sentence, don't really agree with the "no information" excuse people use. If we have to kill off inactives better to do it in a phase where nothing matters anyway. There are no cardflips so we basically can't get info until shit starts going down anyway.

Then again if it's -only- anti-pearl who proves to not be playing and we got a good sense on a better lynch then anti can be dealt with another time. I get to EoD and see 1/3rd of the board not playing I'm just going to assume it's best to choose from them for d0.

[MixMasterLar]

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Didn't see that second Roundbox post. That's quite the padded post you got there.

I think it's absolutely best if we keep mum on it for now, possibly for most of the game.

[Charu]

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I don't get what you're asking.

Are you asking how we're going to approach night actions or discussions of night actions?

I say if nothing at all happens within the night and it's just the standard of one of us humans dying, then I say no one should really say anything unless they truly believe they have something that's of importance to the game. However, if something does happen, like multiple kills and the like, absolutely, everyone should come clean that's relevant to the information provided.

[Charu]

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@roundbox

[roundbox]

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I'm asking if people think my point on not being open with choosing a role should be our approach or if we should do something else

[Charu]

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I'm asking if people think my point on not being open with choosing a role should be our approach or if we should do something else

Ah, I see.

Well then if people are open about it, then the wolves would have a much better time at micro managing whatever they got.

As in, they may not know who got what, but they can do whatever is necessary to prevent whatever that unknown factor is from actually happening.

I'm... neutral about it, leaning towards a no. I don't see how this would benefit us townies if we all knew who's doing what. I mean, at that point, might as well have everyone saying they requested something, yeah?

[mellon_collie]

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I agree with Charu. I don't see much point in talking about it and it would give more strategic info to the wolves. Unless some crazy shit happens, then people can disclose their roles/actions as they see fit.

Basically the same as any other game

[mellon_collie]

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and, ninja'd by another Charu post but I agree with that one too lol

[inDheart]

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i'm fine with lynching pearl if they don't come post bc that's just what you do in an unfamiliar environ, how else are you going to learn it

CARDLIPS

my laptop is busted atm btw sry for no quotes

i do not think this game is directly analogous to a dilemma scenario because both the specific consequences and thresholds for them being reached are unknown, but disclosing that you went for a role just tells wolves what to do

like it could townfirm people but then there's no guarantee that those people actually get their actions to fire after they claim. agree with roundbox then

it's a little weird to me that this discussion happened but i guess it makes sense to re-litigate in flipless?

[inDheart]

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raeko town maybe
charu town maybe but slightly less confident

[Charu]

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I just thought about it some more and a thought popped up saying "the wolves could do the same thing and get away with it."

Like they could say they requested a role, then do something, and then go "LOL, OOPS, I DUN GOOF'D!!!" if something besides the normal happens in the night.

Yeah, now I'm just flat-out no.

[inDheart]

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I just thought about it some more and a thought popped up saying "the wolves could do the same thing and get away with it."

Like they could say they requested a role, then do something, and then go "LOL, OOPS, I DUN GOOF'D!!!" if something besides the normal happens in the night.

Yeah, now I'm just flat-out no.

yup

something something mechanics alone are not clearing

[roundbox]

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I agree that it is not analogous, but it's of a similar concept of risk/reward with not only power potency but wolfamagoo sabotage

Why did you think the discussion was weird?