TWG 192: Sunfan's Cool Game Game Thread

[MixMasterLar]

Re: TWG 192: Sunfan's Cool Game Game Thread

I don't think i can really move past Funny's slot.


So far the defense for it is "but Haku does dumb things!" And I don't think that's an adequate reason to townread the slot.

I have explained several times the contradictions and how it isn't feasible that Haku told the truth concerning his fake claim and I am legit starting to wonder it people are just swimming post. It isn't like you're saying I'm wrong: you either say nothing or pretend Haku picks his actions from a hat full of paper slips and stop questioning it there.

I don't give a fuck if people think I'm being too stubborn here, no one is even trying to explain how he could be telling the truth.

I'll be here at EoD but this is my final vote. I can't let this matter drop.

[psychoangel691]

Re: TWG 192: Sunfan's Cool Game Game Thread

Anyway, dealing with dinner right now so be back in like an hour or so.

[Funnygurl555]

Re: TWG 192: Sunfan's Cool Game Game Thread

Knightsofneeee ruined dumb tells for me forever

people fake dumbtells, sure

would shadow?

prolly not

really doubt it

that slot should never die

[roundbox]

Re: TWG 192: Sunfan's Cool Game Game Thread

Nap then posts
See you soon

[Funnygurl555]

Re: TWG 192: Sunfan's Cool Game Game Thread

I don't think i can really move past Funny's slot.


So far the defense for it is "but Haku does dumb things!" And I don't think that's an adequate reason to townread the slot.

I have explained several times the contradictions and how it isn't feasible that Haku told the truth concerning his fake claim and I am legit starting to wonder it people are just swimming post. It isn't like you're saying I'm wrong: you either say nothing or pretend Haku picks his actions from a hat full of paper slips and stop questioning it there.

I don't give a fuck if people think I'm being too stubborn here, no one is even trying to explain how he could be telling the truth.

I'll be here at EoD but this is my final vote. I can't let this matter drop.

idk what to tell you man. this is just a case of "i have more info than you do on the slot"

i'll try to play a bit more but i won't be active again until 2 hrs before eod

[FreezinIce]

Re: TWG 192: Sunfan's Cool Game Game Thread

I don't think i can really move past Funny's slot.


So far the defense for it is "but Haku does dumb things!" And I don't think that's an adequate reason to townread the slot.

I have explained several times the contradictions and how it isn't feasible that Haku told the truth concerning his fake claim and I am legit starting to wonder it people are just swimming post. It isn't like you're saying I'm wrong: you either say nothing or pretend Haku picks his actions from a hat full of paper slips and stop questioning it there.

I don't give a fuck if people think I'm being too stubborn here, no one is even trying to explain how he could be telling the truth.

I'll be here at EoD but this is my final vote. I can't let this matter drop.

I think i can possibly put my suspicions on hold for a day to help out here.

funny

Going to re-evaluate the fake claim and scrutinize it once i get off work. If it doesn't end up making sense from a town potv this will probably be my vote. Resolving mechanical plays should trump my own suspect list.

[FreezinIce]

Re: TWG 192: Sunfan's Cool Game Game Thread

Also not helping is i am really underwhelmed with funny so far

[mellon_collie]

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Back from walking. My doggy is sick, please send her thoughts (she probably just ate something like a dumbass nothing serious I don't think)

FreezinIce - Reading Freezi's readslists back to back they seem to check out and follow pretty well. The main thing I would say is that his wolf reads on both me and Angel seem pretty abrupt. We both go from being completely neutral in his first list to being the main wolf suspects on his second reads list. His first reads list actually didn't really have any wolves on it at all and it seems like it could have been a way to leave his options open and choose later who he thought suited his needs best. I think I need more time to read Freezi, would not want to lynch today but idk if he is town or not

Gradiant - I don't see anything inherently wolfy about him but I don't get huge town vibes either. I don't like his read on me because he simply won't accept my explanation for what happened, and what am I meant to do in that situation? almost feels like he has already decided he wants to vote for me to push the lynch in a certain direction. I'm not quite seeing the towniness that other people seem to be seeing in him other than him asking some questions, but I actually like his recent "don't listen to me" post lol it just seemed like something a town would say. I'd not vote him today I don't think but need to look further into him

j-rodd123 Shadow_God_10 Duk3star - duk3 plz respond. As for Lewdy.... oh lord. I really don't like this read of his on me because of his use of quotes

Raeko was drunk last night and using that as a "reason" why she didn't move her vote on Lar

Lewdy knows me IRL and he has gotten drunk with me many times, I'm pretty sure he of all people knows I am not bullshitting here and the fact that he questions it really makes me question him. I would expect Shadowgod to respond something like "OH GIRLY XD too much rye again???" not even kidding. It's very weird to me that he questioned that, like he had some ulterior reason to. I know in this game you question everything but idk it just struck me as fake to me. I think he knows even if I were a wolf, I wasn't lying about that

Anyway, I kind of got the impression that Lewdy was reading the thread and responding to a lot of things but his responses don't necessarily seem organic. As roundbox mentioned, questioning him simply for saying "AMA" seemed like a weird thing to be suspicious of. He really doesn't like storn checking the thread but not making a post, and I really don't like that way of reading people. I check the thread when I am out and about, used to check it at work, etc, just because someone checks the thread doesn't mean they have the time to actively read/make a post. Seems like just a super easy and lazy way of calling someone out. He asks for a lot of people's thoughts in very vague ways which I think is a good way to look active without actually putting much effort.

IDK, the more I read it the more confused I get I wish duk3 would come in here and maybe shed some light on the situation

fatfuck42 - I think plop is seeming pretty towny. I don't like his Haku read but as someone who is not used to playing with Haku, I can understand being kinda thrown off by that. I dunno I just don't really see anything sketchy within his posts and his thoughts seem natural. Would not vote today

[mellon_collie]

Re: TWG 192: Sunfan's Cool Game Game Thread

sorry for the walls yall

[Funnygurl555]

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well, guess i have my work cut out for me tonight huh

[storn42]

Re: TWG 192: Sunfan's Cool Game Game Thread

storn42 -I feel like he hasn't contributed much and his "we are not voting anyone on the xiz wagon" seems like a lame attempt at self preservation to me.

First off, obviously i dont think i should be lynched. secondly im honestly the only person on that wagon who shouldn't get town cred for being on that wagon because it involves self-pres.

[Gradiant]

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1) roundbox: Doesn't seem the most involved on first glance but there's responses here that seem alright along with new thoughts based on some of the other interactions. One thing throwing me off though is this:

agree on the raeko, same thoughts as earlier about bolthmann

This was in response to freezin being up mellon/bolt interaction not being T/T but T/W, with T being more sided towards mellon. Just before haku said something about mellon/bolt being W/W and roundbox disagreed. Roundbox later on in that quote thread brings up liking some of bolt's posts, them still needing pressure but not needing be pushed into wolf territory. So I'm confused on the actual stance here. There seems to be slight defense of bolt earlier regarding freezin's push, but then seemingly agreeing with T/W perspective, but then not really because bolt shouldn't be pushed into wolf territory. null until the mellon/bolt shit's looked into

2) mellon_collie: Already said thoughts earlier. They were responded to but I'm still not sure I believe the whole thing. Before she was distracted there was time to have legit reads made so even in a rush it's possible to switch off a vote that was fully admitted to be a joke onto somebody you actually think is scummy. Even though missed posts might've changed that original read it'd still be more genuine to have that original thought along with the oops not enough time factor rather than a safe staying on a joke. Scum lean

3) storn42: Today's actions haven't really done much to change my mind here from last phase. Pretending to not understand haku's actions (the whole 'well there was talk about claiming but he didn't actually do it') seems fake to me.

i'm sure enough that im town, and that xiz was town and we were the top 2 wagons. The only other major wagon with votes looking at eod was RB. In general wolves dont want to try and make last minute vote changes as it looks fishy, especially when they KNOW they're lynching a town. The major ??? is whether or not RB is town, and if it would have had any effect on the wagon if he was a wolf. based on how RB was there to self pres if a wagon gained traction on him and he wasn't on either of the 2 big wagons i think we can say him being a wolf did not play into the situation.

The reason DBP does not get this "pass" is that he started the wagon, and wasn't really on anybody before hand. i'm not saying its he's not town, but i dont think he's clearable based on this line of thought.

of course this all relies on you to believe me that im town, which doesn't seem to be the popular opinion. oh and if RB was a wolf i feel that its more likely that the wolves were on me than on Xiz.

That post was used as reasoning to explain his stating that nobody on the xiz wagon should be lynched today, but I'm not really following the logic regarding dbp. Just because he had the first vote here doesn't mean he was the one that started anything, there was suspicion on xiz long before that vote was made. Doesn't explain why it's more likely the wolves were on him than on xiz. scum lean

4) MixMasterLar: Thoughts here already known and not much has changed this phase aside from being a bit more abrasive? Which I can get because of mellon's actions eod. Was fishiness regarding shadow during eod but was explained alright due to it revolving around potential pr's. town lean

5) Bolth mannn Killed n1

6) Xiz Lynched d0

7) DaBackPack: Was first vote on xiz and was strongly trying to persuade people to move onto him, but the reasoning there felt genuine and not forced. Wasn't solely focused on xiz either during eod so didn't feel much like pushing an agenda. Has been levelheaded throughout regarding haku and mml pushing on haku/storn. town lean

8) Hakulyte Funnygurl555: Thoughts on haku's slot are obvious by now, but with the addition of not liking funny writing off shadow's slot because of an apparent dumbtell. I think that's stupid. Also hindsight about haku's tone. It's one thing to bring it up, it's another to do so as a kind of defense when you're replacing into his slot. scum lean

9) FreezinIce: I can't read you. Usually see something that looks like a slip when I play with you and that usually leads to tunnelling and it usually ends up me being wrong. There's been a lot of back and forth between them and psycho which could be wolf distancing, others could apparently think so too because I'm seeing this pairing a bit when possible wolf teams are brought up, but I think if it was really distancing there, there'd still be more instigating with other players rather than it mainly being between the two of them. Null

10) Gradiant

11) SubaruPoptart psychoangel691: Hard to get a read on you without it currently tying to freezin due to you two being so hard on the back and forth between eachother. Only difference between you two really would be deciding if wolf freezin would push on bolt early game. Interested in seeing interaction with roundbox when he comes in since you said that was going to be a major point this phase because of a scum read last eod but it's been mainly about freezin so far. null

12) j-rodd123 Shadow_God_10 Duk3star: The slight town lean I gave him for the little questions was probably given too easily. There were other little prods that were similar like questioning plop about crumbling reads closer to eod, but then others that seemed really out of place like questioning me about my re-quoting of that prod to reinforce a thought that dbp had said. Ones like that do not seem to be made to help with solving or getting new information, just looking active. Null but could vote here.

13) fatfuck42: Pretty much same thoughts as last phase. I agreed with dbp about point regarding plop's on the fence-ness with xiz, and I forgot what other player said so but their main reads list was very skewed in terms of what was considered utr and where that ended up making a player placed on the list. Shift around concerning me and storn didn't feel organic, the then staying on me with not much basis based on the reads list and asking others about it looked like you seeing if anybody else was gonna bite and when they didn't you dropped it, and any shifts later on closer to eod didn't seem to have much backing up or reasoning, just 'yeah I changed my mind'. The gut vote onto freezin in eod was odd as well. If it was a regular vote that could've had more thought put into it or evolved into something else it'd be all fine, but the vote here was outside of the apparent wagons. That'd make sense if the two candidates were people he was saying were for sure town but he was on the fence about xiz. There was also not much of an attempt to get people off of the two candidates or onto somebody else so this gut vote looks more like a safety so he doesn't look bad being on a town wagon. scum lean

[Gradiant]

Re: TWG 192: Sunfan's Cool Game Game Thread

use of 'lean' there is just kinda whatever. mml is stronger town to me than dbp, probably because tinfoil that dbp would be the player that'd be able to post like that about xiz to get him killed and get away with it but I'd prefer to stay far away from tinfoiling this game as it never gets me anywhere. roundbox would be town but the interaction i brought up that needs clearing brings down to null. Scum leans all sort of interchangeable

[psychoangel691]

Re: TWG 192: Sunfan's Cool Game Game Thread

I'm trying to read back but I'm legit hitting a wall with how tired I am from waking up at a stupid time.

read through plop, most came off as townie I was skeptical of the vote but then saw the reasoning from last phase I'd not seen the first time around. Probably wouldn't lynch today.

[mellon_collie]

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I was really hoping someone out there would have looked at some of the points I'd brought up and talk with me about them.

didn't storn end up doing this?

And then you replied to his points but he hasn't been back since, so I guess that ends that

idk I guess I just don't see you doing much of that either (talking about other people's points). though I get your frustration with burnout especially when it feels like nobody is listening to you