TWG 192: Sunfan's Cool Game Game Thread

[psychoangel691]

Re: TWG 192: Sunfan's Cool Game Game Thread

There's this sort of triangle going on between psycho, freezin, and mellon. storn vote almost makes it a funky square and I think I want to vote between these 4 to help get a bit more info from interactions between them.

Welp, I was going to ask you between what 3 people you'd put in the pool for tonight since you've been my biggest town lean aside from lar but looks like you already basically said it just with an added person.
Who would you feel is the best out of all 4?

[psychoangel691]

Re: TWG 192: Sunfan's Cool Game Game Thread

Dangit, you keep ninjaing me

[fatfuck42]

Re: TWG 192: Sunfan's Cool Game Game Thread

kinda of a dumb question tbh, never too late for step in the right direction. just hope that it stays that way so if there's another shitshow like last eod and any of those thoughts happen to change we can at least be aware of it and not just hope that something will happen.

I asked because in your reads post the raeko read revolved around not believing her explanation on EoD. I wanted to know if pulling up her socks would change your stance on her, but I know there's been some developments since you posted the read.

[fatfuck42]

Re: TWG 192: Sunfan's Cool Game Game Thread

if voting between psycho/freezin here, psycho's irritation here seems more genuine compared to freezin threatening to tunnel

Agreed.

[fatfuck42]

Re: TWG 192: Sunfan's Cool Game Game Thread

I'd be happy with a freezin lynch but even happier with a duk/shadow lynch (revoting because the vote at the bottom of my reads list doesn't look like a vote).

[Gradiant]

Re: TWG 192: Sunfan's Cool Game Game Thread

I'm starting to run out of time for now, I have a birthday party to take the kids to a little later and still need to get ready/buy a gift so I'm going to give a quick hot-take just looking at the votes here.

I didn't really like the sudden swap to Xiz because I'd not noticed a whole lot of heat on him through the game, but I was still in catch up mode so perhaps I missed a bit.
I saw someone mention that it may be all town or mostly made up of town, which I could believe especially with the thought of wolves generally wouldn't want to swap last minute and draw attention to themselves. However, I think there would be at least one that would do it. If I were to pick who right now I'd say Freezin based on our confirmed townies suspicions, I do need to look closer at that spot myself though.
As per the other votes, definitely could be wolves looking for someone they knew wouldn't be flipped to try to keep info low. So lets look at each one:

Haku on bolth: we now know bolth was town, from what I can see there was never really any wagon on them. What I'm not sure if I should take as good or bad is that Haku's vote just stayed on bolth the whole phase. I feel like there's arguments for both sides there.

fatfuck on freezin: This one rubs me the wrong way, was very close to EOD, there was no traction on a freezin lynch for the night only citing "going with their gut" as reasoning. It seems very non-committal to me and possibly even a distancing tactic?

roundbox on shadow: another vote that was just plopped and left on. Also, another person that didn't have any traction on them as being a lynch for the night so I'd put this as another odd one.

MML on Mellon: I kinda get this one with the last interactions they were having, I still don't love it but MML is currently on my town list too so we'll see where it goes.

Mellon on MML: retaliation vote, could go either way really.

shadow on storn: storn was the biggest wagon for the evening so I can't really give too much shit for shadow still being on them at EOD.

And I guess I should probably just go ahead and talk about mine since I'm sure it'll come up at some point. As much as I wasn't loving storn, I also didn't like how many people seemed totally okay with lynching him. I'm sure there had to be at least one wolf in there somewhere. I also had my suspicions on rounbox as it were (I can pull the quotes back up if needed) and when Xiz (one of my town leans) also mentioned noticing the same things it made me feel a little more confident in my thought process on it. I never would have swapped to Xiz that phase.

That's about all I can get into for right now, I'll try to peek in on my phone throughout the day and later this evening can dig into more stuff.

first things first, i look at what bolth was saying (with a slight preference on EoD), then see who would benefit most from his death

*He was on the Xiz wagon at EoD so it could possibly be a play to make everyone else on the wagon look worse

Everyone who isnt DBP, storn, Freezin, Gradiant and me would benefit from that.

*Haku voted for bolth so I dont think he would benefit from his cardflip that much but to offset that Bolth was heavily suspecting Haku near the end. So ill cancel them out

so we have Fatfuck, MML, Roundbox, Raeko, Shadow, Psycho, Haku left.

*Checking the post history, bolth really doesnt have that many stand out opinions or pushes anyone hard so its hard to see any landmines he might've stepped on so no points here.

*The next point is contentious but i really doubt a wolf would kill off a scumlean when its hard enough to make a case against someone when you know everyone's alignment. So i will exclude anyone who was suspicious of bolth or had him wolf leaned on their last reads list. (Unrelated point but Bolth was null on quite a lot of lists)

That take off Haku again, and to an extent shadow and MML, but they were suspecting bolth but not scum leaning so ill add them to a tier below who is left

So what we have left is:

Roundbox, Raeko, Fatfuck, Psycho as the people who would benefit most from bolth dying, and Shadow / MML making up a tier below them.

ATM i cant really think of any other tests to narrow the pool but im sure ill come up with something later

Both of them have a sort of post regarding bolt's nk that could be seen as using it to set stuff up for later, and this is something I could see psycho do as I remember doing something similar when I played with them in the united nations game. Here though it's not as strong and I get a stronger vibe of the possibly happening from freezin. Something along these lines would mean haku probably wasn't lying about his play, wolves would see it was a bad attempt at a nk distraction and just do bolt instead. dbp wouldn't be able to push into freezin/bolt pairing with bolt flipped as town. Would probably keep looking into haku like he had said earlier in the phase

I asked because in your reads post the raeko read revolved around not believing her explanation on EoD. I wanted to know if pulling up her socks would change your stance on her, but I know there's been some developments since you posted the read.

made a post after that regarding little bit of stuff in the list, mainly storn vote and psycho/freezin, leading to my point about the triangle i wanted to vote in

[FreezinIce]

Re: TWG 192: Sunfan's Cool Game Game Thread

Did u really just quote all my posts then ask me to tell u how to respond to them?

[storn42]

Re: TWG 192: Sunfan's Cool Game Game Thread

wew, 2 hours to EoD and im struggling to stay awake. this... will be fun...

[psychoangel691]

Re: TWG 192: Sunfan's Cool Game Game Thread

Both of them have a sort of post regarding bolt's nk that could be seen as using it to set stuff up for later, and this is something I could see psycho do as I remember doing something similar when I played with them in the united nations game. Here though it's not as strong and I get a stronger vibe of the possibly happening from freezin. Something along these lines would mean haku probably wasn't lying about his play, wolves would see it was a bad attempt at a nk distraction and just do bolt instead. dbp wouldn't be able to push into freezin/bolt pairing with bolt flipped as town. Would probably keep looking into haku like he had said earlier in the phase
made a post after that regarding little bit of stuff in the list, mainly storn vote and psycho/freezin, leading to my point about the triangle i wanted to vote in

You have a much better memory than I do cause I don't remember much from that game at all. It was like my first or 2nd game I think.

[FreezinIce]

Re: TWG 192: Sunfan's Cool Game Game Thread

Interesting timeline i live in

[the sun fan]

Re: TWG 192: Sunfan's Cool Game Game Thread

votecount:
duk3 (1)- fatfuck
storn (1)- DBP
freezin (2)- roundbox, funny
funny (2)- Lar, freezin
psycho (1)- storn

[MixMasterLar]

Re: TWG 192: Sunfan's Cool Game Game Thread

Funny and Freezin voting each other is interesting indeed, but I think I missed (I mean no I didn't she never posted it bit I'll pretend I missed) Funny's case on Freezin. Please repost/quote your argument Funny.

sorry for the walls yall

No no, keep 'em coming I live for them

I'll find it if your willing to wait about an hour

Would love to see this still happen

This is literally all your posts for the last 4 pages before saying that you're done with me. What exactly is there for me to retain from this?
Go ahead, vote me forever and keep contributing nothing, that's going to help us solve this game.
Though one thing I can agree on with you at this point is this crap between us is literally going nowhere so I'm done with this as well, I brought up my thoughts what others make of it is what they make of it at this point. You're staying top of my scum reads list too.

Rofl

To be 100%, I honestly think Kayla is town here. I think the frustration and real and to be honest her current meta is that she doesn't post nearly as much when she's scum.

I know, I know; I want her to keep at it and produce note content too. But I think she can be examined after this EoD, I'm fine taking her off the table.

I'd be happy with a freezin lynch but even happier with a duk/shadow lynch (revoting because the vote at the bottom of my reads list doesn't look like a vote).

I can only defend Shadow because of a gut read (and that shadow doesn't fall in with my POE) but I think Shadow being as needlessly confused as he was is on brand for his town game.

When he has wolf chat or even Mason chat its clear he consults almost any plan with partners first and normally asks his questions there. I just feel like it wasn't happening this game.

[Gradiant]

Re: TWG 192: Sunfan's Cool Game Game Thread

You have a much better memory than I do cause I don't remember much from that game at all. It was like my first or 2nd game I think.

I mean, I'm not saying that situation happened for sure here, but if it is, when you were planning stuff like that you were much more involved and here it seems kinda second thought

[psychoangel691]

Re: TWG 192: Sunfan's Cool Game Game Thread

Did u really just quote all my posts then ask me to tell u how to respond to them?

No, I pointed out that you've been doing basically jack shit then want to get on my ass about not swaying my opinion of you.

[FreezinIce]

Re: TWG 192: Sunfan's Cool Game Game Thread

if voting between psycho/freezin here, psycho's irritation here seems more genuine compared to freezin threatening to tunnel

Your probably right. The threat was empty.

Hmmm