TWG 192: Sunfan's Cool Game Game Thread

[FreezinIce]

Re: TWG 192: Sunfan's Cool Game Game Thread

Random thought but i don't think ive ever stayed off of mml's scum list for a whole game in all the games ive ever played with him.

[FreezinIce]

Re: TWG 192: Sunfan's Cool Game Game Thread

Me and raeko are like his eternal punching bags

[mellon_collie]

Re: TWG 192: Sunfan's Cool Game Game Thread

Alright you fatfuck i hope you have some good reads today

I hope so too. gonna get some done for myself in a minute here

Random thought but i don't think ive ever stayed off of mml's scum list for a whole game in all the games ive ever played with him.

tell me the secret of your ways.

[fatfuck42]

Re: TWG 192: Sunfan's Cool Game Game Thread

Plop, sounds like if I don't stop pressuring Haku and Storn then he'll scum read me or something

Not true! I was talking about you rejecting alternative possibilities based on the strength of your conviction. It sounds more like, "That's bullshit because my take is so right that it's impossible for anything else to be true!" instead of giving both sides the benefit of the doubt, weighing them, then deciding on the one you believe in more.

For example, this part of your haku scenario breakdown:

After it becomes clear town is too confused by this masterful scheme, he comes clean that he was drawing a night kill, because he's town and being killed on purpose as town is pro town. He also doesn't want to sub out apparently, until the moment he actually does.

What he did was objectively anti-town, but townies can screw up and be anti-town. I can see what he did stemming from a townie mindset: you know the heat is on you, you know you won't be around for EoD, so you get anxious and softclaim to prevent a mislynch. And as far as the baiting and fishing and even not replacing out stuff goes, I'm pretty certain that was him screwing around and having fun in his own way. I don't think he viewed the first phase as being too serious, or at least not so serious that he wouldn't dare screw around.

Or take this response here:

You are the last person qualified to tell anyone where to vote

Instead of asking storn to clarify why he'd suggest we avoid voting for certain people, you just write him off. It's like you've made up your mind and that's that.

[fatfuck42]

Re: TWG 192: Sunfan's Cool Game Game Thread

Alright you fatfuck i hope you have some good reads today

Always do!

[fatfuck42]

Re: TWG 192: Sunfan's Cool Game Game Thread

Freezin, you mentioned earlier you think the wolfteam is angel/raeko/shadow. Where do you get that from? Angel/raeko I have an idea of where that pairing comes from, but how does shadow fit in?

[mellon_collie]

Re: TWG 192: Sunfan's Cool Game Game Thread

Ok I'm gonna just do a full reads list cause honestly all these replacements are kinda confusing the fuck out of me and I think it would help me the most to do it this way

roundbox - Leaning town. His posting has been a little bit low volume compared to his normal game but the posts he has are pretty good. his tone seems natural and I can follow the logic behind most of the stuff he says. He's prodding people with questions and reminding them if they don't answer, seems investigative. Roundbox would not be on my lynch radar for today

storn42 - he said that he was going to have a SPICY take but his vote on angel wasn't very spicy considering she was already getting some heat, lol. I feel like he hasn't contributed much and his "we are not voting anyone on the xiz wagon" seems like a lame attempt at self preservation to me. Wolf lean on storn but I'm not sure how this fits in with my read on Angel, unless maybe they are partners and he was nudging her intentionally and plans to remove his vote after a while.

MixMasterLar - I just don't think he is a wolf because he keeps doing the same annoying things he always does as town with the same weird reasoning. If he is a wolf, he is emulating his town game very well imo

DaBackPack - I have not ever been online at the same time as DBP this game so that's a bit annoying and making it hard for me to read him. That said, I think his reaction to Haku's "claim" stuff seemed pretty towny and he has the same ideas about the NK as I do. Town lean for now but I really hope he can be more active in the day because I am always paranoid about his EOD hero status... burned me too many times

Hakulyte Funnygurl555 - So I guess I will talk about both Haku and FG here. I think I am one of the players that can tone read Haku pretty well (well, I can town-tone read haku, and if that's not there that is how I can kinda wolf tone read). Anyways, I did not get the overwhelmingly town tone read that I might normally get from haku. Some of the explanations kinda made sense when I stretched my brain about it, but the more I thought about it the more I thought maybe haku was just attempting to imitate their own town game by coming up with some kooky scheme. FG hasn't particularly stood out to me since her entrance, most of her reads seem decent however I didn't like her clear of Shadowgod/Duk3 because of the dumbtell thing. FG would be in my maybe lynch pile.


Rest to come I have to take my doggy for a walk

[mellon_collie]

Re: TWG 192: Sunfan's Cool Game Game Thread

Oh sorry I had this one done too (for context of my storn read)

SubaruPoptart psychoangel691 - her play definitely seems more reactive than proactive. She has made a few large, lengthy posts which contained her own thoughts. But other than those posts, she mostly just responds to criticism of her posts and doesn't do much questioning of what other people say or do. Wolf lean on Angel atm

yes I make my posts in google docs >_>

[fatfuck42]

Re: TWG 192: Sunfan's Cool Game Game Thread

I still believe haku was telling the truth, and fg's posts don't give me any reason to change my read on that slot. Her back and forth with Lar sounded legit, and she's the only one other than me to bring up xiz's read on wolf storn being more likely to chime in, which I still think is pretty important.

Like, scumreading someone because they aren't playing optimally has, in my experience, led more so to catching quote-unquote "weaker" townies than actual wolves. Wolves can screw up, of course, but they can blend in and play really well too.

[mellon_collie]

Re: TWG 192: Sunfan's Cool Game Game Thread

While I'm waiting for my slow ass parents and I see you Xiz! hi xiz! let's just remember what he had to say:

I feel like imma die here, so I’ll say this:

- dont lynch storn
- don’t listen to MML but he’s town
- don’t listen to Halu but he’s town
- listen to gradiant
- DBP play the game next time you do that too often
- if Mellon is a wolf, shadow prob is a wolf
- if I’m wrong about storn in an off world then fuck me lol

I think he might have been wrong about storn, and I guess I can take that to mean for me to townread shadow/duk3?

[the sun fan]

Re: TWG 192: Sunfan's Cool Game Game Thread

votecount:
Duk3star (1)- fatfuck
storn (1)- DBP
freezin (1)- roundbox
raeko (1)- Lar
psycho (2)- freezin, storn
unvote- funny

[Gradiant]

Re: TWG 192: Sunfan's Cool Game Game Thread

I think he might have been wrong about storn, and I guess I can take that to mean for me to townread shadow/duk3?

And also don't listen to me

[fatfuck42]

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Cooking up a full reads list but I gotta go cook up supper for my family first. Be back in a bit.

Since you're around, gradiant, I'd like to see some thoughts and reads from you. You're being quiet again, which makes it really hard for me to read you one way or the other.

[MixMasterLar]

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Or take this response here:


Instead of asking storn to clarify why he'd suggest we avoid voting for certain people, you just write him off. It's like you've made up your mind and that's that.

Storn hasn't answered me straight all game.
Not that the fact seems to bother you: you're spending more time chastising me instead of acknowledging it.

You can fault me for being impatient with people if you like but that's honestly where I'm at right now.

Cooking up a full reads list but I gotta go cook up supper for my family first. Be back in a bit.

Since you're around, gradiant, I'd like to see some thoughts and reads from you. You're being quiet again, which makes it really hard for me to read you one way or the other.

I don't think Gradiant is a hit but I like the fact you voted and are doing shit when you're around.

[psychoangel691]

Re: TWG 192: Sunfan's Cool Game Game Thread

Oh sorry I had this one done too (for context of my storn read)

SubaruPoptart psychoangel691 - her play definitely seems more reactive than proactive. She has made a few large, lengthy posts which contained her own thoughts. But other than those posts, she mostly just responds to criticism of her posts and doesn't do much questioning of what other people say or do. Wolf lean on Angel atm

yes I make my posts in google docs >_>

I was on from like 3 something this morning until like 10 something digging through posts, trying to get caught up and look at each individual (which I haven't completed) while replying anytime someone was actually available because I have yet to actually have any conversation with someone. The two people who happened to be on this morning both decided to target me, so I was just supposed to not reply? I started feeling the burnout, which I'm pretty sure any normal person would feel after staring at text on a screen for several hours and just honestly haven't felt back up to digging through more posts yet.

If you're trying to say the reactionary thing to posts from noon until now, I was trying to make sure I peeked in to keep up with the thread and was literally replying in-between Apex matches, don't believe me? Go look at my twitch under videos. You'll see I was playing, there was a limited-time event I'd missed out on a chunk of by falling asleep at a stupid time last night and I wanted to catch the last hour and a half of it while I had the chance.

I honestly can't even believe you're calling me out on only having reactionary posts right now when isn't that basically all you've been doing with lar most of this game?

I was really hoping someone out there would have looked at some of the points I'd brought up and talk with me about them.