TWG 192: Sunfan's Cool Game Game Thread

[MixMasterLar]

Re: TWG 192: Sunfan's Cool Game Game Thread

I'll have to think about this more when I'm more awake but if we're going to have Haku confirm that he softed a PR yesterday, isn't it better to just get a full claim at that point? He's dead or roleblocked anyway--- we might as well get him to say his full role so that someone can counterclaim if he's lying, and don't forget that flips are partial this game, so if he is truly blue his flip won't even tell us what role he is--- giving wolves more room to hide behind in case they need to fake a PR claim themselves.

the downside is that depending on what PR Haku claims the wolf night actions might be different--- the difference between roleblocking or nightkilling I guess. Which gives them more room to PR hunt if they just stunlock Haku

atm I think if we are gonna force him to claim then it should just be a full claim so we don't get fucked down the line when we realize we don't actually know what Haku was, or what he did, and that information might have been enough to push us closer to solving the game. Given that forcing him to claim that he's some kind of PR isn't safer than him just outright stating his role

No you're right, it needs to be solved early because at the end of the day he did claim no matter what he or storn says and he did survive, and town can't have that ???? in later phases

[Shadow_God_10]

Re: TWG 192: Sunfan's Cool Game Game Thread

I'm passing out guys... I'll catch up when I wake up.

[DaBackpack]

Re: TWG 192: Sunfan's Cool Game Game Thread

I think pragmatically it's better to confirm Haku as cop/doctor/whatever and have him get NK'd instead of letting him flip blue and leaving the wolves able to fakeclaim cop/doctor/whatever

[Hakulyte]

Re: TWG 192: Sunfan's Cool Game Game Thread

Are you saying that this setup cannot have 2 of the same role ?

[MixMasterLar]

Re: TWG 192: Sunfan's Cool Game Game Thread

Are you saying that this setup cannot have 2 of the same role ?

It's a Simple SunFan Game, so no I don't believe that

[Hakulyte]

Re: TWG 192: Sunfan's Cool Game Game Thread

How about 2 masons ?

[MixMasterLar]

Re: TWG 192: Sunfan's Cool Game Game Thread

How about 2 masons ?

Are you hardclaiming mason?

[DaBackpack]

Re: TWG 192: Sunfan's Cool Game Game Thread

Are you saying that this setup cannot have 2 of the same role ?

It's the assumption I've had so far yeah, otherwise the game is absolutely broken and wolf-sided

In a setup with 13 players I find it hard to believe that there would be two identical roles, esp. when the OP says that "most players will be Vanilla Town"

speaking of which, from the OP---

Wolves will be given a small list of roles that they can claim.

I just saw this and think it makes it even more imperative that any blue claim should be a full claim

I have no idea if this "small list of roles" is actual the true list of roles, or if there might be some plausible "fake" roles stuck in there so that counterclaiming is impossible. If they're able to claim "fake" roles then that makes this game much harder for us, since again it's extremely difficult to externally validate the consistency of that claim, barring specific night action interactions

[DaBackpack]

Re: TWG 192: Sunfan's Cool Game Game Thread

How about 2 masons ?

if there are masons then there would just be a single pair of masons and your mason partner isn't going to counterclaim you lol

[DaBackpack]

Re: TWG 192: Sunfan's Cool Game Game Thread

that said don't actually claim yet Haku, we need more people to weigh in and make sure this isn't a stupid idea

[MixMasterLar]

Re: TWG 192: Sunfan's Cool Game Game Thread

that said don't actually claim yet Haku, we need more people to weigh in and make sure this isn't a stupid idea

Ok fuck it I'm going to bed then.

Don't disappoint me town

[DaBackpack]

Re: TWG 192: Sunfan's Cool Game Game Thread

if there are masons then there would just be a single pair of masons and your mason partner isn't going to counterclaim you lol

and on top of this, if someone DOES counterclaim you, it's the situation as before: a thunderdome, because your mason partner doesn't counterclaim you, and thus the counterclaim is exactly t/w

[Hakulyte]

Re: TWG 192: Sunfan's Cool Game Game Thread

that said don't actually claim yet Haku, we need more people to weigh in and make sure this isn't a stupid idea

lynch all the PR hunters

[Hakulyte]

Re: TWG 192: Sunfan's Cool Game Game Thread

I'm kinda sad there's not more psycho/gradiant/roundbox/plop/you name it party family around.

I think I should sleep soon to make sure im online at same time as them too.

[Hakulyte]

Re: TWG 192: Sunfan's Cool Game Game Thread

Are you hardclaiming mason?

Can you for like one second imagine that you're me ?