TWG CLXI - Egregious Miscalculations GAME THREAD

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  • MixMasterLar
    Beach Bum Extraordinaire
    FFR Simfile Author
    • Aug 2006
    • 5401

    #2356
    Re: TWG CLXI - Egregious Miscalculations GAME THREAD

    Originally posted by FreezinIce
    Not game related but that's the face I expect to have when I die and transcend to the next of conscience and learn of all the secrets of the world from my vantage point of like the fifth dimension.
    ​

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    • storn42
      RIP Storn D0-D0
      FFR Simfile Author
      • Jun 2012
      • 3474

      #2357
      Re: TWG CLXI - Egregious Miscalculations GAME THREAD

      Storn getting NKed? what is this 2015?!


      Originally posted by Xiz
      "I think storn is town but he doesn't have a shirt on" - Roundbox
      Originally posted by the sun fan
      I have beat my meat to storn's posts no less than four times


      Originally posted by ShadoWolfe


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      • Hakulyte
        aka Haku
        • Jul 2005
        • 4697

        #2358
        Re: TWG CLXI - Egregious Miscalculations GAME THREAD

        Originally posted by MixMasterLar
        Ask away
        Most of my questions are for ShadoWolfe tbh.

        I'm going to build a case and point out quotes around him. I just want to see if he can cover up everything I found.

        I obviously would like you to look at it as well.

        In terms of who's on the table it's mostly DFR/dadcop2 for me.

        ShadoWolfe is only because I have trouble to picture the 3 wolves being a bunch of coasters and doing nothing.

        I also think you're the strongest town now.

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        • dadcop2
          FFR Player
          • Jan 2016
          • 229

          #2359
          Re: TWG CLXI - Egregious Miscalculations GAME THREAD

          Originally posted by MixMasterLar
          Underwhelmed by dadcop2 literally dropping in, saying the most generic well geez guys line he could think up and peacing the fuck out.
          oh i'm sorry, zeke, was that too mainstream for you?

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          • MixMasterLar
            Beach Bum Extraordinaire
            FFR Simfile Author
            • Aug 2006
            • 5401

            #2360
            Re: TWG CLXI - Egregious Miscalculations GAME THREAD

            Originally posted by Hakulyte
            Most of my questions are for ShadoWolfe tbh.

            I'm going to build a case and point out quotes around him. I just want to see if he can cover up everything I found.

            I obviously would like you to look at it as well.

            In terms of who's on the table it's mostly DFR/dadcop2 for me.

            ShadoWolfe is only because I have trouble to picture the 3 wolves being a bunch of coasters and doing nothing.

            I also think you're the strongest town now.
            Uh

            Well now I'm intrigued. Post your work and I'll be more then happy to read it. Don'y keep us waiting

            Originally posted by dadcop2
            oh i'm sorry, zeke, was that too mainstream for you?
            Originally posted by Wikipedia
            Zeke /ˈziːk/ is an American hardcore punk band from Seattle, Washington formed in 1992. They are known for their extremely fast, energetic guitar sound.
            Thanks for the compliment then but you're still likely scum
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            • MixMasterLar
              Beach Bum Extraordinaire
              FFR Simfile Author
              • Aug 2006
              • 5401

              #2361
              Re: TWG CLXI - Egregious Miscalculations GAME THREAD

              Hey DanceFlashRevo

              More interactions less silence please

              You literally asked for this
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              • Hakulyte
                aka Haku
                • Jul 2005
                • 4697

                #2362
                Re: TWG CLXI - Egregious Miscalculations GAME THREAD

                Is there a difference between a triggered town AA and a triggered wolf AA?

                Basically, he went ham on D0 EoD and started leading what looks like a parade of mislynches now.

                I do have a pile of quotes I can point out to and I do understand that D0 happened the way it did because we don't know the information that we know now.

                The point is that he's been really trying to create an agenda and force the game in a particular way.

                He took the time to write up everyone's reads and most of them have been MML/Storn/T-Force which simply shouldn't be even close of the reality of this game.

                He somehow got fairly heavily sheeped and I think this fits with what you were talking about with "rushing the game" back in your Choof / MML interactions.

                I believe if there's a deep wolf in this game, it has to be him. The trend continues subtlely and he's like discarding objective thinking with false promises.

                e.g: T-Force mentions that R.E. Aryxi would have been a much better lynch than him and AA basically discard R.E. Aryxi later on. (well, this is laughable now because of Aryxi's flip, but still.)

                What I'm saying here is that I feel like he's been trying to move the game in a certain direction the entire time up to this point.

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                • MixMasterLar
                  Beach Bum Extraordinaire
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  • Aug 2006
                  • 5401

                  #2363
                  Re: TWG CLXI - Egregious Miscalculations GAME THREAD

                  Ok,

                  Well if you could share the quotes for the class, assuming that the implication that you know exactly where they are due to having gone back and read them recently is accurate, that'll be most helpful.

                  Not trying to be a dick to someone who's agreeing with me on AA finally but yeah
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                  • MixMasterLar
                    Beach Bum Extraordinaire
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    • Aug 2006
                    • 5401

                    #2364
                    Re: TWG CLXI - Egregious Miscalculations GAME THREAD

                    I am about to start being a dick to somebody here in a sec if they don't get active after posting something like this:

                    Originally posted by danceflashrevo
                    MML interact with me
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                    • danceflashrevo
                      scumfan is scared of aa
                      • Sep 2007
                      • 488

                      #2365
                      Re: TWG CLXI - Egregious Miscalculations GAME THREAD

                      Anything about shadowolfe or are your suspicions just on AA's part.

                      @MML sorry got sidetracked getting a ps2 emulator setup

                      Why are you here?

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                      • danceflashrevo
                        scumfan is scared of aa
                        • Sep 2007
                        • 488

                        #2366
                        Re: TWG CLXI - Egregious Miscalculations GAME THREAD

                        Where are you at right now? @MML

                        Why are you here?

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                        • Hakulyte
                          aka Haku
                          • Jul 2005
                          • 4697

                          #2367
                          Re: TWG CLXI - Egregious Miscalculations GAME THREAD

                          Sorry MML, I'll find the rain of quotes after the explanations. I feel like it's easier to read that way.

                          AA also pushed me after I tried to do a push D0 against danceguy out of toneread which ended up being a failure from lacking content.

                          AA's main argument had to do with semantics about word usage from his point of view only to back off over himself not reading properly what I've written in the first place.

                          That just made me go wtf

                          I've never seen AA push me for this ever before and then he went back on being assertive and requesting help to pressure others and continue the "agenda meta" if I were to name that something.

                          I think this is literally AA trying to signal me that he's a wolf believing I could be wolf myself.

                          The grand majority of the rest of his game is a proofread party that's borderline unattackable.

                          The moment I started questioning him about the pacing of the game and basic ideas like game mechanics he looked like he got angry and I think it has to do with the idea that I pushed him outside of his comfort zone.

                          He also tried to do a Seer cover which was a really strange action by itself. It's like I was watching him slowly doing all the potential hat tricks as if he wanted to be so town that calling him out would be insulting.

                          Basically, I really disliked his game "behind the scene" in terms of tone all along.

                          I guess I should start finding quotes now.

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                          • danceflashrevo
                            scumfan is scared of aa
                            • Sep 2007
                            • 488

                            #2368
                            Re: TWG CLXI - Egregious Miscalculations GAME THREAD

                            About the d0 push against danceguy. Do you think AA would've known he was a wolf or simply thought he was town?

                            Why are you here?

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                            • ShadoWolfe
                              FFR Player
                              • Jun 2009
                              • 171

                              #2369
                              Re: TWG CLXI - Egregious Miscalculations GAME THREAD

                              Won't get home til later tonight, might be able to phonepost here a bit over the next hour.

                              Dadcop still reading scummy. Also interesting to note is Haku's interest in me following a phase where I was the only pushing him. I'd love a fresh interaction with you though, Haku, so please give me what you got.

                              MML looking town but I know he plays a good wolf game and one thing that bothers me is that he's used NK speculation for the basis of two pushes now. Like I said last phase, basing a push on NK speculation is a wolf tendency because wolves are the only ones who control kills and can choose them for any reason. Because they can therefore plan to frame or implicate anyone, reading into NKs is, at best, wifom for town and can benefit wolves immensely. MML looks towny aside from that, though, so I hesitate to read him scum for it. I'll have to take a closer look tonight.
                              DFR reading towny, and if this is a result of his effort to improve then he's doing a good job of it. Posts feel natural and pro-town.

                              Regardless of intention, Haku quite clearly outted storn as IC yesterday. I tried covering for him by saying "ignore Haku if youre VT" so he could go back to hiding, and by wifoming an IC soft in my last post last phase (if I'm still alive tomorrow then..), but clearly both were ineffective :\

                              Whelp, more when I get home and reread. Haku please leave those questions for me





                              Originally posted by Hakulyte
                              I followed the "by the book" play, but I was reading the "not to do" page.
                              Originally posted by XelNya
                              " I'd suck a dick in a dark, dark alley."
                              Originally posted by YoshL
                              "i gave you 20 ducks, and spent a lot of time making one of them quack, and pointed at the particular one and asked "is that one the worst quacker"" ... "you could still give somewhat of an answer based on the quality of the quacks, and the other random quacks from the ducks surrounding that weren't the center of focus."
                              Originally posted by mellon_collie
                              "I love Wolfe's duck avi so much. Shado's Duck Shrine is the best!!

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                              • Hakulyte
                                aka Haku
                                • Jul 2005
                                • 4697

                                #2370
                                Re: TWG CLXI - Egregious Miscalculations GAME THREAD

                                Originally posted by danceflashrevo
                                About the d0 push against danceguy. Do you think AA would've known he was a wolf or simply thought he was town?
                                I think he sort of did. Here's why;
                                Originally posted by Hakulyte
                                I tend to believe towns are more "apathetic" than wolves in general because they're the one side stuck actually solving something.
                                Originally posted by AragakiAyase
                                Logic is backwards

                                Town has motivation to solve
                                Wolves don't so more apathetic
                                danceguy has been pretty much the most positive player in this entire game and seeing AA go like "towns has motivation to solve" made me go "really?"

                                It feels like he wanted to discard me continuing to push danceguy.

                                Originally posted by Hakulyte
                                You just played against a hyped Sunfan and lol I'm having a blast Neee last game.

                                Did you forget already?
                                Originally posted by AragakiAyase
                                So? Just because there were a pair of active wolves doesn't change the general trend
                                He's right btw, but I do think that gives us an idea over his mindset.

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