I'm not buying RedSludge's reasoning at all. Claiming bulletproof townie is often seen as a scummy move. For example, you say that the wolves will want to target you to get you done and over with, but this is unlikely. Why? Because why would wolves target someone who they know won't die that same night. Wolves have no reason to kill you now so you've made your role essentially useless. That's why claiming bulletproof is seen as scummy: with many roles that claim, the wolves will likely kill them that same night, thus confirming their alignment (since cardflips are on). This isn't the case with bulletproof: you're not going to get killed in the night and we don't know whether that's because you really are a bulletproof townie, or a wolf that's been lying to us this whole time.
Also, I'm not buying the counterclaim reasoning either. Wolves have very little incentive to counterclaim at this stage in the game. Also, with this setup, the lack of a counterclaim does not imply that you indeed have your role, because we don't even know what setup we are and you may be trying to fool us into thinking otherwise.
Sorry for the rant, but the bulletproof claim set off some red flags for me. I'll end this post with an intention to vote, but I want to get an official vote tally from T-Force first.
Hi, Mr. Wolf.
Originally posted by JohnRedWolf87
Charu the red-nosed Snivy
Had a very shiny nose
And if you ever saw it
You could even say it glows
All of the other Snivies
Used to laugh and call him names
They never let poor Charu
Join in any Snivy games
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Originally posted by Vendetta21
All in all I would say that Charu not only won this game, his play made me reconsider how I play it.
I'm a little skeptical at that flip only because he originally claimed bulletproof, went back on that claim and told us his actual role which we didn't find out until just now, and back to bulletproof.
I'm confused as to why he went back on his counterclaim; whether his post was an honest mistake or not.
Instantly goes on him (rightly so) but doesn't take into consideration he might just be confused and doesn't know what he's doing.
He immediately went "You're obviously a wolf dude," without even stopping himself to try to question the claim and to attempt to see if, at all possible, why a wolf would willingly do this.
I mean, it's super obvious this is a bad play for both sides of the game. Extremely obvious. Mega Super Elixir obvious even.
Originally posted by JohnRedWolf87
Charu the red-nosed Snivy
Had a very shiny nose
And if you ever saw it
You could even say it glows
All of the other Snivies
Used to laugh and call him names
They never let poor Charu
Join in any Snivy games
(Click the arrow to see the rest)
Originally posted by Vendetta21
All in all I would say that Charu not only won this game, his play made me reconsider how I play it.
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