Going to go by the logical wrong assumption that everyone in the entire game is town and focus on |nonsense and weird things| because if I target players, the game will end before I finish complaining.
The reason has to do with the idea that 10/13 players are town and if I start applying my scum lean expectations to everyone, it's not going to end well.
Keeping this as reference for myself:
D0:
Originally posted by T-Force
New Message - Sent 08/17/17 at 9:06 PM Subject: Final Vote Count
Final Votecount: MixMasterLar: 5 - the sun fan [80], DaBackpack [800], roundbox [820], FreezinIce [832], Hakulyte [849]
- blindreper1179: 2 - Celirra [791], LightManticoreX2 [841] FreezinIce: 2: - Hateandhatred [606], Gradiant [853] (due to being posted at 8:59 despite me saying to stop posting, I will count this vote)
- the sun fan: 1 - MixMasterLar [343] Celirra: 1 - blindreper1179 [472] Hateandhatred: 1 - XelNya [524] DaBackpack: 1 - Xiz [609]
== Scanning thread ==
#15: (blind)
Originally posted by blindreper1179
Hello yes, I would like to win this game. I am the seer, and I'm picking DBP as my vigi choice. Thank you and goodnight.
What does town Blind gain from that (?)
I understand that you can pull crazy plays, but really it's like you're taking a risk with little room for a reward.
#80: (Sunfan)
Originally posted by the sun fan
lar feels like a wolf or something
No matter how hard I look and try to scum read MML, this just felt way too early. It felt more like shade than some sort of pressure vote with towny intentions.
#82
Originally posted by the sun fan
he just feels kinda weird? I don't really know what he's doing and it normally feels like he has a game plan.
What made you assume that MML has a game plan? I feel like town Sunfan may have simply left a "pressure vote" and moved on.
#103
Originally posted by the sun fan
I've known that this is part of how you read me ever since you kept asking me about Civ 5 that one game (I thought I told you this at AN, maybe I did and you remember but it doesn't matter to you, which is fair game).
It doesn't work because I know its part of how you read me, and I do think that part of your method is flawed, because I /don't/ need an escape from solving the game as a wolf most of the time, I just did that game.
To the point, it was a good observation when you made it, but for future reference I don't think that you will be able to read me based on this when I roll wolf in the future.
This post is telling me that it won't work in the future, but it doesn't deny that it may have worked for this game which is very confusing if your goal is to make me town read you by rejecting my read.
#112 (Xel)
Originally posted by XelNya
I'm rarely serious.
To really dumb it down: I think Haku's push is pointless.
Why try to shut down a push "that seems pointless" (?)
#121 (Manti)
Originally posted by LightManticorex2
I was going to post last night but saw this post and went "ew I have to log out to post not worth it" and went to bed.
Thanks for the easy entry post though haku.
That was a weird entrance because I cannot explain why you would post that even if it's true. It's just giving me unnecessary silly vibes of "haha, you made my game easier". I can't really expand beyond that without looking weird either.
So, that post just made me go: "why?" and honestly you can probably answer whatever you want and I won't be able to do anything about it.
#134 (FreezinIce)
Originally posted by FreezinIce
Please, i know your going to turn this into a tinfoil on me and I'm going to die. Why get my hopes up
I guess I'll tell you the same thing as I told ShadoWolfe. You probably should quit using anything that counts as "appeal to emotions" unless the timing is specifically calling for it with me. I just don't even want to read into it anymore and I tend to automatically scum read anyone who seems to be taking advantage of it. That's probably one of the reasons why I tend to scum read a lot of players lately.
#136 (blind)
Originally posted by blindreper1179
Mml/ sun wolf team if sun is wolf. Mml hasn't been wolfy yet.
Looks like you were pointing at potential distancing here. I don't know if there's more you would want to develop at this point. W/W is no longer possible, but maybe W/T was a thing.
#138
Originally posted by blindreper1179
caught up. celery
#141
Originally posted by blindreper1179
He knows why
I don't see it sorry. Celirra was fairly null at this point.
I kind of get why you posted "don't do this", but I simply don't really see the gain for town.
#166 (MML)
Originally posted by MixMasterLar
leaving now. Whenever someone ask where I am show them this
Not gonna lie, I somehow skipped this and I feel bad for it because I remember that hidden "Eiffel 65 - Blue" link.
I'm going to assume the majority didn't notice this and were too busy doing other things. It's definitely possible the wagon actually contain maybe 1-2 wolves, but I wouldn't bet the game on it.
#168 (blind)
Originally posted by blindreper1179
Is it possible for me to choose a wolf as the vigi?
I'm pretty sure this is just an act, but I can't decide for sure which side that makes him because maybe blind just really doesn't trust me at all. I still feel like there's some odd absence of game plan and I can't tell for sure what's going on here.
#175 (Celirra)
Originally posted by Celirra
Are you voting for the cutest wolf contest? If so I'm flattered
Seems to be playing with fire for little to no reason which is worrying me.
#181
Originally posted by Celirra
I still want a better answer from mml because I also think this thinking is a bad trap to fall into, and honestly I really don't like mml's current attempted response.
That said I think sunfan is looking ok for now so it's not like I'm arguing against mml, more against his thought process. Seems like he's trying to make an ally with sunfan (different than friends!!!!)
This is really odd because first he's taking a quote that's not even addressed to him out of context and he's taking a stance that I cannot particularly understand either. This is also lacking explanation as to why he has this stance himself which is making evaluation difficult.
#193 (XelNya/Haku) -early game stuff-
Originally posted by XelNya
No, I'm pointing out that you saying you did it only because pushed to makes it sound insincere.
There's something awkward about getting voted by someone I don't have a read on and continuing on that person's thought process about another person who I'm not sure how to read because the game just started. I just said things as they were to me, but I get your point.
...
I guess my reads before this post are bad and you can discard them. I just need to throw more effort in that game and stop being lazy.
Gotta sleep because almost 7 am and I've been slow and clearly had the wrong idea on a couple of things.
Not gonna quote cause lolmobilequoting but my main stance change is on sunfan, I'm getting really bad flashbacks to the last game he rolled wolf in, in which he didn't really do anything that much and then made apologies for having a hard time, which is really similar to here. Combined with my tinfoil theory, not looking good for my d0 friend. It's weird too because it seems people are backing off on him
Haku is actually trying and making good points and not just trying to provoke discussion etc which is super different than anything I've seen out of haku which worries me because I've only ever seen him as town and he seems more... professional and such this game. This might be because he's trying to get people on his side more but it's still a slight antitown lean in my books just becsuse it is haku
Still waiting for the rest to do anything noteworthy, it's bad that I can't think of a single game solving attempt by freezin other than "x is town" or "y is wolf"; slight tones of that from gradient and dbp but to a lesser extent. The biggest offender of this is still Xiz of course; I'm also still waiting for manti to try. I can't really read any of these 5 because of it.
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