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Originally posted by XizOriginally posted by the sun fanComment
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Re: jTWG LXVIII (Gam hread) - Welcoe to
im going to step out of the thread. i'l come back with a fresh mind ready to play...
Originally posted by XizOriginally posted by the sun fanComment
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Re: jTWG LXVIII (Gam hread) - Welcoe to
I'm gonna go to bed, I got work later, so I will try to be around for eod but no promises
you are warned in some advance so I dun wanna see that "he disappeared" shit laterComment
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Re: jTWG LXVIII (Gam hread) - Welcoe to
I haven't gone through Benguin yet in terms of rereading again, but there are a few things that I can look for when interrogating Benguin such as him being immediately active and now he has alerted us of his situation. My first game was with Benguin as a wolf and he is exhibiting a similar playstyle to that game than his innocent town game. There's more to read about Benguin, but I'm only keeping my eye on him.
I am not giving you that answer because you guys should be able to read the mindmeld Sunfan and I had at that time. He is withholding information, I am merely withholding the answer to a read that was justifiably confusing to read into.
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I might have to agree that you slowly lost the ability to read well from rolling so many consecutive wolf games (I too am rebounding from this from back to back wolf games). However, it shouldn't stop you from interpreting what is artificial and what is pure.
Also, I kind of changed my lynch preferences. Storn and Kiba both exhibit misguided town more than inexperienced wolf so I might not emplore a lynch on them as of now. Instead, I may enforce dfr being lynch with the next best being benguin.
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Re: jTWG LXVIII (Gam hread) - Welcoe to
Wish more people were here before I have to travel to a bday party for my nieces.
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Re: jTWG LXVIII (Gam hread) - Welcoe to
benguin
Will probably move this later. Apologies for not being as active as I normally am, I've been feeling pretty sick this weekend and have been sleeping a lot more than normal as a result. Here's my current reads list:
Storn: He's rolled wolf the last few games and it's been pretty obvious in those games (no offense lol). His tone this game is much more pure and less awkward, although it seems to be lacking confidence in posts like this one and this one where he tries to make reads. He had a really awkward vote on zenith early in the game based off of a gutread except he didn't say it was a gutread at first which was confusing. I see two possible scenarios here: either he rolled wolf again and has improved his play or he's town and is genuinely confused because so far his reads haven't been very helpful as they've all been null (but he's said so himself that he's having trouble reading). The having trouble reading excuse is either cover for not having good reads because he's a wolf or it's legit and I'm not sold either way. Null with a slight town lean I suppose.
Greg: We've sort of mindmelded on dfr playing very strangely so far. He didn't do much early on but that was because of lack of time and he's really picked up his game so far. He asked me if I was human but didn't like my answer; I don't really know what to say about that because it seems like he was expecting something and I didn't give it to him? If he chooses to read me that way then that sucks because it's distracting from actual scumhunting. I'm not ruling out the scenario where he's on his vet wolf game and is trying to push something on me for reasons yet unknown. He made a good point about whether to out roles or not when he said that if someone is playing scummy they should be pushed on regardless of role. I haven't really heard his thoughts on zenith or xel yet (or the inactives but who knows about them) so I want him to post about those, but so far he's done a good job of pushing on scummy players (dfr) and generating discussion. Second strongest town, although like xel I'm scared that he could just be a really good wolf.
Xel: Much more active this game than last game. He's actually been posting some good reads like in this post. Most of his other posts have been the usual anime gifs but I see him trying to get into the heads of other people which seems more town than not like here and here. I'd like him to post an updated reads list because I haven't actually heard his opinions since early D1 and I'd like to know what he's thinking right now. He's giving off a town vibe this game, maybe because he's more active but his posting feels very different from last game where it seemed like he was just trying to cover up the fact that he was a wolf. Here he's actively trying to gather information before he really pushes on people (I assume). He's most town beneath zenith and greg, but like greg I'm wary because they're both vets and could easily be tricking me.
Psycho: She's had a whopping 3 posts so far so there's not really much to say. She pinged zenith out for trying overly hard to look human and not having a good lynch target yet, but didn't really say whether she thought it was alignment indicative. As null as can be.
Zenith: Has easily posted and contributed the most this game. Early in the game he pinged out several people to get them to speak up which definitely earns him some town points there. He seems supremely confident that he won't be lynched when he self-voted here which I see as townie because I don't think that a wolf would have that sort of confidence, unless he's really good at bluffing. I don't like his post here because as a town it's better to be read as a wolf but alive so that you can help steer the game in the right direction, but that's a small thing. His reads are flexible and he's not being stubborn like when he originally reads storn as town, changes him to a lynch target, and then changes him back to likely town. I can see this in two ways: wishy-washy because as a wolf he doesn't know who is best to push a mislynch on, or genuinely rereading the situation and adjusting his reads accordingly. Based on all the other stuff that has happened in this game I'm going with the latter. He ignored my question in this post as to why he pinged out DFR for help and I'd still like that answered. Had a mindmeld with greg that he won't share and that bugs me but I'll figure it out later. He's had a few things I didn't like but still definitely my strongest townread at the moment.
Kiba: It doesn't seem like he's had any experience with TWG before. His posts give off the air of a very inexperienced player who's just trying to figure out the game, but it seems more town oriented than scum. He's attempted to read a few people in posts like this one and this one but so far there hasn't been too much. His post about the nightkill is interesting but I think it's more out of healthy curiosity than anything else. The nightkill will give us a lot of clues about who the wolves are. Aside from that most of his posts haven't had much content but I'll clear him for now given his tone and being a newbie. I'd like to hear more from him as the game progresses but he's ok for now. Medium town lean.
DFR: I really don't like how dfr is playing this game. A good portion of his posts have been shitposting and he hasn't contributed much. He has attributed his inactivity to lots of things interrupting his schedule such as laundry, soccer game, etc. but hasn't done much, if anything, in the times that he has been around. His reads have been pretty mediocre and lacking detail, which maybe I can chalk up to being early in the game and there not being much content. By the time he made his most recent reads list in this post there was plenty of content to go off of but as you can see his reads were very light and not very convincing for the most part. It seems like he's backpacking off of other people, like when he has his read on zenith; it seems very similar to what I've said in posts here and here. He hasn't offered any new content and is just reusing arguments that people have already put forward. Most of his reads barely have any justification or reasoning behind them and some have none at all. He said here that he says a lot in text but so far I haven't seen that. My top wolf read at the moment but I'll move my vote to him later in the day if things don't change.
Benguin: I'm echoing greg's thoughts here but so far I'm very disappointed with benguin. He seemed very eager and intent on participating and being active in this game and so far has had absolutely no content. The only post even remotely resembling content was early in the shitpost phase here, and maybe a few posts here. Since then there's been nothing but promises to be active that he hasn't delivered on. I'm not reading his inactivity as alignment indicative yet for two reasons: I haven't played with benguin before, and I try to only use activity level to determine alignment as a last resort if there are no other options. Benguin, please post more and actually do something, you're hurting town by not being here (unless you're a wolf in which case it makes sense). My read on him is null with maybe the slightest of wolf reads because unless this is a regular thing with him, I just don't see a town upping and leaving town behind with no explanation other than a few random excuses. Not my top lynch for today but he'll get there if he doesn't do something.
Players in order from most town to least (or least likely to most likely to lynch):
Zenith
Kiba
Storn
Benguin
DFR
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Re: jTWG LXVIII (Gam hread) - Welcoe to
Fuck I didn't finish typing up the town to least town list
Most town to least:
Zenith
Greg
Xel
Kiba
Storn
Psycho
Benguin
DFR
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Re: jTWG LXVIII (Gam hread) - Welcoe to
Also I delayed my shopping for this so I'll be gone for an hour or so now
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Re: jTWG LXVIII (Gam hread) - Welcoe to
Also I wanted to say about greg that even though he's reading me as scum for what seems to be a dumb reason, scumhunting even for dumb reasons is better than not at all. And his read on dfr and pushing for a lynch on him is good because it seems like we're finally going to be able to solidify a target.
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Re: jTWG LXVIII (Gam hread) - Welcoe to
I chose to ask DFR then because he was there in thread and I needed a third party mind to come in and read. It could've been anyone who was active and I saw him name.
Don't look too hard and Sunfan and I's mindmeld about Kiba's type of read on storn and the significance of it.
If there is anything that sticks out besides Mashi style reads list, it would be you have Benguin leaning wolf more than Psycho, and that's extremely weird. Benguin at least has content presented and if you are reading him wolf due to that then this post goes into irrelevancy; but you surely cannot place a player with 2-3 posts with one of those posts having content higher than a player with ~15-20 posts.
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