TWG CX: Matrix6: Reloaded

[thesunfan]

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oh cool, I inadvertently answered your question, dAnce. neat.

[dAnceguy117]

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@Charu thoughts on sunfan?

[yo man im awesome]

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I apologize for wording the question in a weird way? I still don't understand how that makes them difficult to answer, but alright, I'll try and word them differently, I guess?

And the reason you haven't seen dAnce this assertive as a VT in the early game is probably because you didn't look at CVII. He was very, very demanding.

What worries me is that I feel like you've pounced on the two easiest targets for today in both riot and myself. You didn't say much of anything until we both had heat (inc response of how you're busy, w/e), and you've kept gunning for us both. You also appear more confident. I'll use this example as to how I percieve you to behave while you're under pressure: Kevin while under pressure as a wolf is in the driver's seat going 120 on the freeway, while Kevin as a human under pressure is white-knuckled, gripping tightly onto that handhold above the door.
Right now to me, you're cranking the music and are well above the speed limit.

Oh no no, it's not you specifically in your wording. People word it like that pretty regularly and it's normal to, I just personally don't like it is all. Nothing you alone did.

And I mentioned this before, I said I was trying to become a more active/beneficial green, and to me? Sitting around "white-knuckled", UTRing in fear of saying the wrong thing is no fun at all. Solution? Talk more, accept that it's not the end of the world when I get lynched (which previously I would only accept immediately after being lynched), and not sit around on my ass. Try and be active when I'm present(ly looking). Etc etc etc.

And in reality I'm both of those descriptions lol; when I'm driving I'm white-knuckled fearing for my life, but I crank the music way up.

[Charu]

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@Charu thoughts on sunfan?

Sure!

The beginning of the day he gave me a weird vibe just because of what he was posting.

These posts had me raising my brow,

hey charu, how's our deal looking? I can't hold up my end; you?

darn, we can still get this accomplished before tonight though. You down for trying?

I was sort of wary of him instantly, but I still had him has null because it was just the beginning of the game. Then people started to question his motives because he was being initiative and prodding, I didn't really think he was a wolf because of that though, but he was definitely starting to lean human on my end.

[dAnceguy117]

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Kinda interesting that you pointed those posts out. I thought that was some inside gag between you two.

What were your thoughts as sunfan was closed to being lynched? You weren't saying anything while that was happening.

[cedolad]

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Official Vote Count
Players needed to lynch: 5
14hr 42min left in Day 0

dAnceguy117 - 1 - mellonxcollie - (L-4)
mellonxcollie - 1 - Vendetta21 - (L-4)
Riotpolice - 2 - YoshL, Charu - (L-3)
thesunfan - 2 - FoJaR, yo man im awesome - (L-3)
Vendetta21 - 1 - thesunfan - (L-4)
yo man im awesome - 2 - Riotpolice, dAnceguy117 - (L-3)

Players not voting: None

same vote count: Day end in 14hr 42min

[dAnceguy117]

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What's with the apathy? YoshL, Raeko, V, fojar, Riot pretty much absent with one real-life night left and no decision made.

What were your thoughts as sunfan was closed to being lynched?

close* to being lynched

Dammit.

[Charu]

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I thought it was stupid, but I held my tongue to see if anything would come off of it.

When thesunfan made this post:

I am vanilla town.
I am also a shitty player as of late, I guess.
I guess I gotta pretend to be less assertive and nicer to you guys... or something, at least. I feel like I'm being voted for playing the game, and that upsets me. I punched a wall after I was lynched last game, now, I really don't know what I'm gonna do.

if it means anything to any of you, kevin's likely a wolf, V is maybe a wolf, but I don't know for sure. dance and charu feel human to me, and I feel good about it. Riot and yosh, I want to say are human, but I don't have enough from them. Rest I don't want to comment on other than raeko. I feel like if she was a wolf, she would've easily made a +1 vote and voted me. I'm actually surprised she didn't. I'm not sure about her, and I suck at reading her so, w/e.

This was something he would say if he was about to get lynched I thought. And then when Riot got the same treatment, he just kind of joked it off.

i laugh at your statement about me wanting to claim my position when I already did.

Dance, stop acting friendly towards me. You are scaring me. Stop it.

I'll beat you with my baton, don't come near me.

Don't touch me.

*image of Combine from Half-Life 2*

Honestly during those moments, I was really looking at you, dAnceguy. I don't know what your goal was when you were telling them to claim and then joking with Riot after that. Were you trying to appear as the ultimate green? I was concerned about that. In fact, I'm still concerned about that.

[mellonxcollie]

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The more YMIA is posting the less confident I feel about him being a wolf. I am sick and just accidentally passed out for 3 hours so I can understand time getting away from him if he is telling the truth.

YoshL and Fojar have been pretty absent but I'm hesitant to just lynch someone just for being quiet. I'm not feeling any sort of end of phase panic since we still have plenty of time, but I'd like to start narrowing down my options and this is a hard game. I am going to re-read Sunfan's posts again

[dAnceguy117]

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I thought it was stupid, but I held my tongue to see if anything would come off of it.

Honestly during those moments, I was really looking at you, dAnceguy. I don't know what your goal was when you were telling them to claim and then joking with Riot after that. Were you trying to appear as the ultimate green? I was concerned about that. In fact, I'm still concerned about that.

I was trying to gauge their reactions as I told them what I thought their options were (because no one beat me to it). I think there's a lot which can be learned about someone who could be seconds from TWGdeath.

You thought it was "stupid" as in a likely human lynch, am I understanding correctly? I get that defending someone on day 0/1 might be playing with too much confidence, but do you normally hold your tongue as it looks like a bad lynch might happen instead of making a counterpush?

[Charu]

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You thought it was "stupid" as in a likely human lynch, am I understanding correctly? I get that defending someone on day 0/1 might be playing with too much confidence, but do you normally hold your tongue as it looks like a bad lynch might happen instead of making a counterpush?

Yes sir, that is correct, thanks for catching on to that.

If there's a lynch that's about to happen in about 20-15 minutes before the day ends and then a sudden push happens to someone no one even considered was a possible wolf, then yes, I would be blowing my top.

That happened at night when everyone still had more than 24 hours to do anything. I didn't think an insta would happen at that point. So I just watched and made some notes.

[dAnceguy117]

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I'm not feeling any sort of end of phase panic since we still have plenty of time

I don't think this is the right mentality for forum TWG. We have more words to consider than in short phases of an LTWG, and that's good, but we also have more time to place votes. I think better lynches happen when people aren't scrambling at the last minute.

[mellonxcollie]

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I think better lynches happen when people aren't scrambling at the last minute.

Well of course, I guess I just don't see 14 hours til phase end as last minute :P I'm still trying to figure out the best course of action

[dAnceguy117]

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That's if everyone is awake and available tomorrow before the phase ends. Otherwise we only have tonight.

A lot of humans (and wolves, but in an attempt to look human) use their votes as a tool during the day phase. By voting who you want to lynch at a given moment, you put pressure on your target and possibly draw reactions from other players. I think that's a better way to go about it than for everyone to discuss civilly for 71 hours and then throw out a single vote.

[yo man im awesome]

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For the record, I have school at 6 AM EST, so I won't be available in the morning.

That said, unless something glaringly suspicious aka warrants a vote change happens, I'm sticking with sunfan. He's my day 1 man. <3