TWG CIII: New Players Welcome

[Krauthammer]

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Welp, the "I'll leave a vote" was part of a vote I had done, but decided not to vote yet. Oh well.

[Xiz]

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Why do you think Tokzic is green Xiz? What about the other inactives I mentioned, Kraut, RSD, jwcgator?

I'm not saying that we should definitely seer one of these people, just that I could see a benefit in doing it. Obviously seering someone everyone is suspicious of would also be beneficial, so it is up for the seers to decide.

Read above for that.

Kraut, eh I'm not fully sure on yet. More neutral then anything this gme.
RSD, I can see what sunfan is getting at in regards to him. I just haven't cared that much about him.
jwc? Yeah that's suspicious. He did vanish. Can't really give input on him besides I do think he has a wolf lean, but I'll need to do research on him as suppose to why. But he isn't a major wolf concern right now.

[Xiz]

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it was 5, sorry

good. whew. lol

[Tokzic]

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wait did i say jwc i meant pntballa

had that post in mind where he made the anagram out of jwc's name rofl

[Tokzic]

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after reviewing jwc and pntballa's posts i have decided that jwc actually is a better seer

apparently pntballa has been making good posts that i completely didn't notice until now

[Xiz]

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can we just kill riotpolice plzzzzz

[thesunfan]

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no one feels the way I do about BDN's post? Fine, w/e lets just get some talk going so we can get a lynch ok?

[cedolad]

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last thing I will do in this game

pnt, where are ya bud?

[Riotpolice]

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no one feels the way I do about BDN's post? Fine, w/e lets just get some talk going so we can get a lynch ok?

I do feel it strange that he would delay his "big" post. I'm just on edge right now and don't feel like posting much anymore. This game man....it brings out the fire in you guys doesn't it?

[thesunfan]

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@RP you're a ******

[Riotpolice]

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I rest my case.

[Brilliant Dynamite Neon]

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THE FOLLY OF RIOTPOLICE (AND POSSIBLY ALSO SUNFAN)

Xiz wasn't yet the pick of the day in context, but #125 never sat quite right to me. Xiz's weirditude and aggressive, patronizing play is role-neutral to me, and I think by defining my plan, the first point Riot makes doesn't seem to hold water. Originally, it seems like Xiz was trying to institute a similar plan of action to mine, and he just didn't have a handle on it yet. The rest of it comes off as buddying up to a trusted figure (Tokzic) and then fence-sitting/deliberate neutral play. I mentioned this the first day, by the way, which got no response.

Now at #505, he seems to basically wholesale agree with my plan, considering that I'm the only one aside from Xiz/pnt with anything to say in the matter (I'm certainly the most prominent by this point)...

...and then he turns around and goes against me hard at #583 as soon as I move to put him in a seer's sights.

I must emphasize here that I didn't realize until now how dumb this post really is. First of all, I mentioned that I would be voting for moderate suspicions to be hit by the Enforcer. That is what you were at that point. Also as mentioned before, I did have a bit of suspicion first day, and your activity patterns suggested a cruiser. Sure, I could've restated my reasoning, but I was dumb and decided to ignore the game until the last minutes of the phase. That's my mistake. But insinuating that this came out of the blue with no explanation is fallacious. It could be chalked up to you not paying attention, but then again it could not.

Here's the meat of the argument:

An Interesting Idea:

If you were a wolf, the plans that you are suggesting are going to be riddled with holes further down the line, increasing your chances of winning as we get further and further into the game.

Well, obviously, this isn't interesting enough to you, since you make no attempt to counter anything in my plans. Which I find funny, because I'd think any HUMAN with the idea that I was a wolf trying to mislead the town with a janky strategy would immediately try to look for the trickery and expose me for the fraud that I possibly am, or at least put it high on their priority list. I see none of this from you. Just an empty accusation.

If what I said about you being a wolf is true, if everyone starts to bandwagon on your plan, and if what charu says is true, that would mean that you could quite possibly be the MW and are trying to get everyone to follow your plans just so that you can get farther into the game and eventually kill everyone.

~This is the reason why I have voted a seer vote for BDN.~

Okay, so initially, I was glad to turn tail and go right along with this, because I had nothing to hide. But look at it now and tell me if I am the only one thinking this is stupid. Why would you advocate SEERING someone that you PARTICULARLY suspect of being the Master Wolf? It means absolutely dick unless you lucked out and hit a regular wolf with your suspicions, and in a game that's pretty much alliance-proof, even that would not be immediately fruitful. Plus, this idea that I am the MASTER wolf came right out of nowhere. Why is this unprecedented idea given in this argument against me? I can't figure out any reason except that you're sure I'll come up green. And I have to wonder how you came to that conclusion. The whole "don't take it personal" finish is the icing on my suspicion cake.

Finally, there is this gem:

p.s. Don't tell me to remove my seer vote on you, I won't give into the talk of "Oh you're wasting your time by seering me, go seer somebody else" bullshit.

Is that so? Then why is there absolutely nothing between you and sunfan, who is basically pulling that same "don't seer me" bullshit, and was practically saved by the last minute move to seer me -- which you started, I played into, and sunfan himself saw fit to put over the edge. Not very strong convictions you seem to have there.

I could also go into your sketchy behavior this day as well, but it's very elegantly summed up by Charu@670. Declaring "strong suspicions" or beliefs and then failing to act in a manner supporting them has always been a strong wolf tell in my book.

Also:

sketchy as fuck
BDN

Whoa, next level vote support there, buddy. Here's an idea; try going into why I'm "sketchy as fuck", possibly reading and responding to the above as part of it. Maybe then I'll change my mind about you.

Right now, though, both my seer and lynch votes stay.

[Tokzic]

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Given how heated the last lynch got, I'm pretty sure we can say for sure that one of Xiz and DragonIIDX is a wolf.

[Tokzic]

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you know, my favourite part about this whole seer voting business is that people actually are getting into deep discussion about it, so player relationships are getting really fleshed out as though it's a lynch vote

except winning the vote doesn't mean anything and ultimately the seers are probably just going to do whatever the fuck they want anyway

[Tokzic]

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Why would you advocate SEERING someone that you PARTICULARLY suspect of being the Master Wolf?

lmfao wrecked

throwing my vote at Riotpolice until/unless i see a better place it