TWG CVII: Where da Wolves at? (C9++ setup)

[Charu]

Re: TWG CVII: Where da Wolves at? (C9++ setup)

5 VOTES TO LYNCH

cedolad - X

thesunfan - X

thesunfan -> cedolad
Crazyjayde -> cedolad
MeaCulpa -> cedolad
thesunfan -> UNVOTE
Crazyjayde -> thesunfan

[emerald000]

Re: TWG CVII: Where da Wolves at? (C9++ setup)

I haven't been able to get much out of the last couple of hours of D2. It seems like people were split between 2 people, then a third choice appeared that was placed in between their 2 choices. So they went for the lesser evil and lynched velocity. thesunfan started the train, yes, but there's isn't much to make out of it. He tried to save his ass and doesn't make him more of a wolf than a human.

Other than that, I fail to understand why cedo came out. Unless I am missing something, it is not giving us much more information. It would make sense to claim if he was going to get lynched, but he wasn't even close. I guess it is too late to complain now.

PS: I am pretty sure kills are simultaneous.

[cedolad]

Re: TWG CVII: Where da Wolves at? (C9++ setup)

I came out because I wanted to let everyone know I killed James, which is why when I came out, I came out as "I killed James".

[cedolad]

Re: TWG CVII: Where da Wolves at? (C9++ setup)

ps; this isn't Magic, kills aren't like combat damage resolution.

[Charu]

Re: TWG CVII: Where da Wolves at? (C9++ setup)

Charu, are we following natural resolution? As in, will the wolves halt the vigi's actions upon kill?

No, blue roles have more priority than red roles.

[cedolad]

Re: TWG CVII: Where da Wolves at? (C9++ setup)

Also another thing I would like to point out, is how in N1 there wasn't a Mafia kill sent in, because possibly James was the only active Mafia at the point. In case if he were, he couldn't send a kill and a roleblock at the same time. Just wanted to point that out quickly before I left for work.


Toodles~

[Crazyjayde]

Re: TWG CVII: Where da Wolves at? (C9++ setup)

ps; this isn't Magic, kills aren't like combat damage resolution.

Look back at my first game with me being doctor and guarding Manti. It should have gone through, but Fojar had some issues with role resolution.
And so I guess it's better to send in the vigi choice regardless of the result of tonight, that is if we need it. So much thinking for nothing.

Also another thing I would like to point out, is how in N1 there wasn't a Mafia kill sent in, because possibly James was the only active Mafia at the point.

Uh?

[soramimi]

Re: TWG CVII: Where da Wolves at? (C9++ setup)

Thanks guys for answering those for me.

And yeah... sunfan, I agree with jayde: the wolves would likely be thinking that as is. Maybe I'm jumping the gun here, but if cedo doesn't get killed in nightphase, what would that tell us? I can't see the wolves wanting to keep him alive because that just puts them at greater risk. (Not trying to paint targets on cedo.) Though, it could confirm a doctor role existing.

Because my brain is derping right now, how many red roles does this leave us? 2?

[thesunfan]

Re: TWG CVII: Where da Wolves at? (C9++ setup)

Since we're talking about roles atm, if there is a roleblocker, one-shot or full, that blocked someone night one, they should come forward with that info, if for some crazy reason they haven't already. It would cost a blue, yes, but it would mean that there's likely only one anti-town role left in the game. If it was a doctor saving someone, I'm in favor of them remaining hidden for the time being. The fact that a roleblocker has not come forward makes me think that there is a doctor left, imo.

[emerald000]

Re: TWG CVII: Where da Wolves at? (C9++ setup)

Forgot to take into account that there is no Innocent Child, here's the updated version with role distribution.

BBBBVVV: BBbVvGЯFHHHHH
BBBCVVV: BBcVvGЯFHHHHH
BBBDVVV: BBDVvGЯFHHHHH
BBBTVVV: BBVvGЯFKHHHHH
BBCCVVV: BbCVvGЯFHHHHH
BBCDVVV: BbcDVvGЯFHHHH
BBCTVVV: BbcVvGЯFKHHHH
BBDDVVV: BbDdVvGЯFHHHH
BBDTVVV: BbDVvGЯFKHHHH
BBMMVVV: BbMMVvGЯFHHHH
BBTTVVV: BbVvGЯFHHHHHH
BBVVVVV: BbVVvGЯFHHHHH
BCCCVVV: BCcVvGЯFHHHHH
BCCDVVV: BCDVvGЯFHHHHH
BCCTVVV: BCVvGЯFKHHHHH
BCDDVVV: BcDdVvGЯFHHHH
BCDTVVV: BcDVvGЯFKHHHH
BCMMVVV: BcMMVvGЯFHHHH
BCTTVVV: BcVvGЯFHHHHHH
BCVVVVV: BcVVvGЯFHHHHH
BDDDVVV: BDDVvGЯFHHHHH
BDDTVVV: BDdVvGЯFKHHHH
BDMMVVV: BDMMVvGЯFHHHH
BDTTVVV: BDVvGЯFHHHHHH
BDVVVVV: BDVVvGЯFHHHHH
BMMTVVV: BMMVvGЯFKHHHH
BTTTVVV: BVvGGЯKHHHHHH
BTVVVVV: BVVvGЯFKHHHHH
CCCDVVV: CcDVvGЯFHHHHH
CCDDVVV: CDdVvGЯFHHHHH
CCDTVVV: CDVvGЯFKHHHHH
CDDDVVV: cDDVvGЯFHHHHH
CDDTVVV: cDdVvGЯFKHHHH
CDMMVVV: cDMMVvGЯFHHHH
CDTTVVV: cDVvGЯFHHHHHH
CDVVVVV: cDVVvGЯFHHHHH
DDDDVVV: DDdVvGЯFHHHHH
DDDTVVV: DDVvGЯFKHHHHH
DDMMVVV: DdMMVvGЯFHHHH
DDTTVVV: DdVvGЯFHHHHHH
DDVVVVV: DdVVvGЯFHHHHH
DMMTVVV: DMMVvGЯFKHHHH
DTTTVVV: DVvGGЯKHHHHHH
DTVVVVV: DVVvGЯFKHHHHH

B: Roleblocker
b: 1-Shot Roleblocker
C: Cop
c: 1-Shot Cop
D: Doctor
d: 1-Shot Doctor
I: Innocent Child
M: Mason
V: Vigilante
v: 1-Shot Vigilante
G: Goon
F: Godfather
Я: Mafia Roleblocker
K: Serial Killer
T: Vanilla Townie

[emerald000]

Re: TWG CVII: Where da Wolves at? (C9++ setup)

@Charu: What would happen in those situations:

Wolf A sends the night kill.
Vigi kills Wolf A.

Would the kill still go through since it looks like blues have priority?
Also, what would happen if it was a serial killer and not a blue vigi?

[Charu]

Re: TWG CVII: Where da Wolves at? (C9++ setup)

@Charu: What would happen in those situations:

Wolf A sends the night kill.
Vigi kills Wolf A.

Would the kill still go through since it looks like blues have priority?
Also, what would happen if it was a serial killer and not a blue vigi?

Vigi would go through, but the wolf's kill would not since blue beats red. However, if it was a SK, then the SK's kill would not since red beats purple.

Essentially, BLUE>RED>PURPLE

[emerald000]

Re: TWG CVII: Where da Wolves at? (C9++ setup)

Thanks Charu!

This is interesting. The truth might be simplier than expected. Vigi killed James. Kill doesn't go through.

[Crazyjayde]

Re: TWG CVII: Where da Wolves at? (C9++ setup)

I was confused as why the IC was included too. Thought I had it all wrong.

Oh well I don't know how I feel about a roleblocker claim to be sincere. But I do want to clarify the N1 event. Any used one-shot roles should come out though.

[thesunfan]

Re: TWG CVII: Where da Wolves at? (C9++ setup)

Thanks Charu!

This is interesting. The truth might be simplier than expected. Vigi killed James. Kill doesn't go through.

He was the roleblocker. The roleblocker cannot block someone on the same night and kill them, so I don't think that this is what happened. Its *possible*, but I really wouldn't count on it.