TWG CV: Christmas in the clink

[Tokzic]

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anyway i'm moving my vote from danceguy to guest for incredibly complex meta reasons

[Tokzic]

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i remind our players not to make dumb fucking votes that insta and end our day early because i'm seriously tired of not being able to talk for three days at a time

[dAnceguy117]

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Yea my bad, think I forgot one.

Tokzic (1) - BDN

[Guest15937]

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Here comes the long post. Got a lot of evidence here to go through, so bear with me.

Firstly, the seer events of the day. Early in the day, Dance mentioned that he got a "bunk note" on day 2, stating that BDN was human. I'm going to go on record here and say that I don't believe him. No seer has stepped up and confirmed this story (which SHOULD have happened by now if this was legit), and at the very least, a legit seer message should have contained more than three words, as any seer would have been able to see (no pun intended) that their message wouldn't hold water if it was so brief. Not to mention, if he was as sure this was a legit message as he said he was this day, he shouldn't have waited THREE FREAKING DAYS to tell anybody!

Secondly, Dance has made some utterly ridiculous shifts this game. Notice how early on in Day 3, he was opposed to the developing Manti bandwagon, going so far as to vote V and argue with him head-to-head to stop it (and switch to V himself), but only a couple pages later, he's not only spinning around and voting manti, but he's suddenly the wagon's main advocator. What the heck changed? Did he make any clues on why his position shifted so suddenly on manti? No, because he gave us a bunch of naked votes.

Also note, BDN jumped straight on the Manti wagon as soon as Dance started speaking in favor of it, and BDN is also the player Dance is trying to protect with his (made-up) seer note.

Finally, Tokzic is acting really weirdly. He was the only one openly opposed to the Manti wagon once Dance was in favor of it, and was fighting Dance every step of the way. Not once on Day 3 did Tokzic really agree with Dance. Also, only Tokzic was dorking around with votes on others during the wagon. But now, on Day 4, Tokzic votes me as soon as Dance does, even after voting him. To me, it seems as though Tokzic was agreed upon as a Day 3 (and possibly day 4) red herring by the wolf team prior to day 3, but is now no longer needed to play that role.

In short, my best guess at this point is that the remaining wolves are Dance, BDN, and Tokzic.

With that, I will change my vote to dance to keep up the pressure.

[Afrobean]

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No seer has stepped up and confirmed this story (which SHOULD have happened by now if this was legit)

No one ever came forward for mine either. The ones who got these powers during n2 and n3 may be dead already by now (tps? charu? lito?). Fojar also may have given them a condition that if they reveal themselves, he'd kill them like he did with psychoangel on day 2.

a legit seer message should have contained more than three words, as any seer would have been able to see (no pun intended) that their message wouldn't hold water if it was so brief.

This is foolish reasoning. What could an anonymous message really say that could make the HOST-CONFIRMED seer report have more weight? Here, I'll post the message that came with mine:

Hey, I'm not sure who will receive this and hopefully not a wolf but I got a "seergram". In addition to this message I can submit one player's name for a seering but I won't get the results, the recipient of this message will so I will rely on you to deliver this information to the thread. I'm also not allowed to pick who gets this message, it is decided randomly.

I decided to submit j-rodd123 although I do think he is human, I figured it would be best for this to be resolved. I'm not sure if I'm allowed to say who I am, but i'll do it anyway, i'm [REDACTED].

As for wolves, if I had to pick a wolf team it would be KgZ, Tokzic, dAnceguy117, and Afrobean. I'm not sure what else to say here, but hopefully this goes in the right hands and if lucky maybe this will find j-rodd123 is a wolf and we can get back on the right track.

Sincerely,

[REDACTED]

[by the way, I edited the style a little bit, because there were a few stylistic capitalization/punctuation tells that I feared could reveal [REDACTED]'s identity]

What in that message gave fojar's seer report that was also included in the PM any extra meaning or value? Furthermore, the idea of a message may have been something that fojar added to the power later, since mine came on n3, and dance's came on n2.

And like I pointed out before, I revealed that I had received a personal message along with my PM. How could danceguy know enough about these secret messages, somehow use correct terminology I never did, know that I received a message with mine after when he was claiming to have gotten his, but yet not fake one for himself if he was lying? In fact, the only scenario I can see danceguy being a wolf and lying about this all, STILL has him legitimately receiving a PM at least a little like I did, and he's just lying about the contents of said PM.

Not to mention, if he was as sure this was a legit message as he said he was this day, he shouldn't have waited THREE FREAKING DAYS to tell anybody!

If a seered green is publicly revealed, that seered green is frequently the next one killed by wolves. What are you thinking, man? How can you seriously question hiding a seered green rather than revealing him completely unprovoked? If I hadn't vigi'd jrodd the same night that I got the seer report for him, I probably would have kept that information a secret too.

ps that post was not even close to being "long"... you're gonna have a hard time in post-secondary academia if you think that was a lot of writing.

[The Blue Blur]

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Is BDN

My computer appears to be toast. Windows will not boot in any mode and Startup Repair just takes me to a permanent black screen with a mouse on it.

replacement please

Not pictured: FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

[mellonxcollie]

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:< RIP BDN

Kgz is at Magfest right now btw

[dAnceguy117]

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so, anyone wanna talk about something

[dAnceguy117]

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I'm all in on the guest push. killing someone who has only put pressure on humans and voted late on a wolf with no explanation is the right decision. *pushes chips toward center*

[dAnceguy117]

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I should be more clear there. the lack of explanation in the vote post itself doesn't bother me. there was just no talk about Manti before he was clearly going to be lynched. again I think a wolf or two can be found late on that wagon.

[The Blue Blur]

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Well dang
Didn't expect the game to die with my computer.

[The Blue Blur]

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Have to do laundry because I literally have no clothes to wear after today. Batteries arebrunning low. I guess I can rough it out if you can't contact cedo but obv my playing abilities are going tobe impaired

[yo man im awesome]

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k well i just lost a decently sized post because my computer froze, and I couldn't be fucked to write it again.

essentially, I have a list of what I think lynch/investigation priority should be. This was the list. (the colors just give a better idea of how badly i want them lynched/investigated)

dAnceguy
BDN
Guest
Yoshl
Afrobean
Tokzic
mellon/Vendetta

[dAnceguy117]

Re: TWG CV: Christmas in the clink

boooooooooo

[dAnceguy117]

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bump

how do yall feel about a no lynch?

jk jk jk