Happy Layout Fun Times

Posted in 3rd Style on April 3rd, 2008

I think the psuedo english title above pretty much says it all. We have spent weeks if not months thinking about how to take everything we loved about the mashed up, link filled, layout breaking, new user headache causing design that we loved so much and turn it into something simple yet effective.

Not just simple but something clean, easy to understand, easy to navigate and yes this new design at some point will even be variable width for all you wide screen resolution lovers. Our old layout was approximately 1 1/2 years old and we know we have outgrown it. We outgrew it over a year ago.  While the new design will look sterile at first glance, realize that it will have more added to it and that after a couple hours you will come to appreciate how easy it is on the eyes.

There are MANY tweaks and additions we will be making over the next week. I wouldn’t take a risk to put something up on my baby (FFR) that I didn’t fully believe in. I know where this design is going and I understand the other interesting additions that will also be showing up shortly.

By all means, leave us suggestions. We have built this community by listening to the community. I never miss a news post comment and still spend hours a day going through the forum.

P.S. Never EVER buy “Egg, Cheese & Biscuit” Combos (the snack cracker things). After eating these, I wanted to kill myself.

Cheers,

Synthlight

334 Responses to “Happy Layout Fun Times”

  1. 1st? looking forward to it.

  2. cool layout :)

  3. whats going to be in that gray dead space at the top looks like valuable space

  4. Here’s my piece (kind of cross posted):

    It’s hot. Really hot.

    IMO, it looks more grown up, if you know what I mean. Very sleek.

    The only thing that I don’t like is the color of the recent forum posts. They should be blue to match the other links. Or maybe not, since there are other grey links. I dunno…

    I also think that ‘latest profile’ should be last in the column of ‘recent stuff’.

    Oh, also, that blank space where the ads are for non-subs, is that going to be filled?

  5. oh and one suggestion. get rid of the gay ass music in ffr1. please lol. or at least mave an option to turn it off. its so annoying.

  6. Nice

  7. WHOA I was so surprised when I first logged on today O_O

    It IS a lot easier on the eyes though!

  8. I refreshed my stale page from last night and found this. It’s simple and clean and it’s quite sexy if you ask me :) GJ Synth.

  9. I AM SO CONFUSED

  10. p.s hi JasonKey, we haven’t spoken in a while.

    Synth, you never talk to me.

  11. I like that it’s clean and simple. Profiles were getting overly-complex too, so the change is refreshing.

  12. I’m a fan of simplistic, sophisticated design. Good job producig this AdminCave. :)

  13. Oh and just a little request, in the top right stats box with account info… could we have our AvRank placed in there as well?

  14. Hmm… Posted in 3rd Style on April 3rd, 2008

  15. Instead of just adding it (as it fits really nicely as it is), having it be customizable would be neat, maybe.

  16. That’s why I eat Pepperoni Pizza Combos only, Synth

  17. eek i love the new layout.. less headache = better

  18. i love the new layout. :D

    and i’ve never heard of those kinds of snack crackers..i’ll avoid them lol.

    ^-^

  19. Well this is new….

  20. April Fools?

  21. I like this layout a lot. Looks a little bit newer and modern. ;D

  22. I think it’s a major improvement. Not that the old layout was bad or anything, I just like this one a lot more. The only thing that bothers me is the “Your Profile” in the top-right corner. It looks like it can be reduced in size or something could be added in it. It just looks too wide for the ammount of information in the box. Also, the “Recently played songs” and “Latest forum posts” are too out of the way. You have to scroll all the way to the bottom to get to them. Maybe have a little menu that holds them altogether and just have tabs on it? Other than that, I have no objections. Very sexy in my opinion :-Þ

  23. Oh, another thing. If it’s changed so that the recently played changes while you read the page PLEASE make it a static size regardless of avatar size.

  24. :]]]

  25. Dude, this is awesome. The old layout always frustrated me because it was so cluttered and messy, and seemed to get moreso every day… THIS, however… THIS is awesome.

  26. “P.S. Never EVER buy “Egg, Cheese & Biscuit” Combos (the snack cracker things). After eating these, I wanted to kill myself.”

    god those things are so gross

  27. this is why you eat asian food

  28. I like it. It’s simple and easy to find everything.

  29. i liked the custom profiles the way they were!!

  30. Jeez.. And I finally got used to the old layouts.
    3:
    Ah well.. The change is good =)

  31. We lost the menu at the top of the screen. This was made up for on the home page with the side panel but while viewing profiles it takes a few clicks to get to the statistics, forums, radio, widgets, etc. Something should be done about that.

    But congratulations on your new layout. I know y’all worked hard! :)

  32. I think the community stuff deserves icons like the games have.

  33. Ehh… it will definitely take some time getting used to… I honestly really liked the old layout.. just because it looked different from other websites. This one looks so sterile. Its so white. D:

  34. It seems like you guys eliminated backgrounds from the profiles? I myself lost mine, and I noticed that a few others in profile chat had mentioned it too.

    I can’t get the right side of my profile to have a transparent background, and before my profile used to go from white to gray as you scrolled down. Now it’s white on one side, and gray on the other.

    Aside from that, everything is peachy.

  35. its not finished .. be aware of that ;)

  36. O.o Strange i’ll get use =S Thx i suppose.

  37. Right-o, Jason.

    I just read a post in the forums from Synth that said you guys were fixing it.

    Good enough for me. ^_^

  38. I’ll miss my old FFR, but this new layout looks very good and has lots of potential.

  39. lol. FFR v 3.0.0 :D

  40. My stomach is still queezy…It looks too innocent to be trusted ><

  41. nice job :)

  42. things were decently easy to find before, but at the same time, i bit of a hunt, so i hope this will indeed work out!

  43. Wow, me likey. :D

  44. The custom profile section dont work properly :|

  45. The guys will be working on the profile section all day today so that we can get all the customization and goodness back.

    Cheers,

    Synthlight

  46. This is an amazing layout Synthlight. Cheers indeed.

    I love how compact everything is and it isn’t clunky at all. Can’t wait to see the newer features coming up in the near future ^_^.

  47. NOW for the avmiss fix public!!

  48. I thought I went to the wrong website at first. XD
    I liked the old layout, but with time I’m sure I’ll like this one too.

  49. now that i look at it there are certain similarities to kongregate no?

  50. I like the idea, but hated how there was no tabs up at the top to go to certain places, I had to go back to the homepage and then click whatever I wanted. It would have been just easier to put the tabs at the top again?

  51. I like the idea and all but please but the profile comments and the random thoughts next to the part that displays tokens and stuff… it’s more irritating the way it is now.

  52. My brain hurts T_T

    I was used to the other one, but this one is cool too :]

    It will take some time hehee,
    profiles are all wacked though..

    love, love, and more love,
    Muffin<3

  53. AHH!!! NEW!!! IT SCARES ME!!! Actually, this one is a bit more confusing if you ask me. I guess it works.

  54. *SUGGESTION* Fix the profiles! That is all :)

  55. Interesting to see a new layout. Though.. I do believe it will take a while to get used to. I have only been using FFR since last summer.. So I guess it won’t be as hard as the people who have been using it for the past year and a half. At first glance (just by looking at the home page) it looks fairly cool… Just different. Will check out everything else later.

  56. Posted in…3rd Style? :S

    Lol, I got kinda scared earlier when I couldn’t find my Beta. Dx

  57. Well, I just looked around the rest of the site. Only the home page is changed? The rest is the same as before. Definitely not a problem to me.. Because I like the old layout. But will the rest of it be changed to a similar layout like that front. (In my opinion the front page is very bland). Though I do like the more sophisticated look.

  58. Maybe we could have more blue? I associate FFR with the colour blue it looks too boring withuot it now! Apart from that the simpleness looks great! Just need to do something with thtat space at the top!
    Nath.

  59. make it so people can change to the old skin.
    this is starting to bug me.

  60. Not to sound negative but… I don’t like it. Maybe it’s just a lot to handle so fast. It looks so much different then what I was used to.

  61. i think the other buttons from the old header should be up there too

  62. As time goes on you will see more, more blue, more adaptation of the new look to the rest of the site. Eventually all the pages will stop looking like borrowed pieces and start looking like one solid design.

    Cheers,

    Synthlight

  63. it’s hard to read comments here.

    and we can’t tell whos subscribers on here anymore :(

    I don’t like the way this is going.

  64. Man, this will take some getting used to…

    But I trust you know what you’re doing, and I can’t imagine the end result as being anything other than pure, 100% Columbian awesome.

  65. Very nice.

  66. I still wouldnt like it… I like the old FFR skin.
    Not to be negative or anything. Just isn’t my style.
    I loved how the old one is. But you’re gonna need a hell of a lo of time to get all of the changes in.

  67. I’ve been waiting SO long for FFR to change like this…

    This has been the best update FFR has made in the time I’ve been a member on my oldest account(almost 2 years old).

  68. Awww I really liked the old layout…*cry*

  69. It’s nice to see everyone has their own opinion on the new layout.

    P.S. I think it’s time for a spontaneous contest. It’s been awhile. Everyone in favor of a spontaneous contest say “Mobile Phone Fleas”

    Cheers,

    Synthlight

  70. Yay!

  71. MOBILE PHONE FLEAS!

  72. Mobile Phone Fleas.

    Even though I can’t participate on whatever it is.

  73. awesome layout so far, cant wait to see the final version after additions ^_^

  74. Mobile Phone Fleas

  75. Posted in 3rd Style on April 3rd, 2008

    Hmmm.

  76. Mobile Phone Fleas.

    Also,

    While I’m not a fan of the layout in a purely aesthetic sense, it is easy on the eyes and I guess if you guys have faith in it, and believe it’ll grow on us, I’ll keep my mouth shut until some more of the potential is realized. I’m crossing my fingers… but if it’s coming from the makers of “I can’t believe it’s not DDR ™” then I’m not TOO worried.

  77. I’m Not Liking it much

  78. This layout sucks. I mean seriously? Look at that banner? One sharp arrow? That’s it? I’d rather have the old banner for the rest of ffr, rather than have this crap.

  79. After a while, I got used to it.

  80. ps I know there’s going to be additions, but I assume you wouldn’t all of a sudden change the arrow as one of your changes.

  81. I like the old layout better, it felt more like a gaming page.

  82. I honestly don’t like the new layout. It is hard to find what I’m looking for now. I guess I was used to the old layout.

    PS: You need to add the profile links. IE: Newest pictures, latest updated profiles, etc.

  83. Looks great. Definitely more organized. I noticed a problem, though. The link directly to the FFR simfile database is great, but the “play” link right under it takes you to SIU. Shouldn’t that link to Resonance or the sim db?

  84. It IS easy on the eyes… but it has a LOT of bugs at the moment. I’m just confident with the admins enough to fix ‘em.

  85. -________-’

  86. I liked the other one better

  87. I would like to be able to see more of the latest posted forums. Also, the profiles need a lot of work. The profiles should remain similar. There are a lot of bugs still.

  88. I like it alot.

    It reminds me of FFR WAYY back.

  89. I really don’t like the new layout. Think about changing it back…PLEASE?!?!

  90. does the new layout lag for anyone else?

    it might be the school computers but when i play FFR the game, since it doesnt open a new window, its a lil laggy =/

  91. I like the layout, but I’m craving a different background for the main text. Staring at a bright white screen is a little tough on the eyes.

  92. The computer lags way to much with this layout

  93. Well, to all of you who want it changed back, it’s going to take a LOT of work and protesting. Basicly the chances of it getting changed back are 1/1,000. It’s still possible, just very, very hard to do.

  94. love the layout :D

  95. love the layout its great:) nice and simple, maybe alittle more colour like nothing tooo bright a nice mellow colour :)

  96. Love it.

  97. Wow… it’s interesting..
    Not used to it though Lol

  98. only thing i don’t like is that it doesn’t tell me how long iv been a member of ffr anymore =[ =[ anyone that knows how i can ever see that again let me know lol

  99. oh God no, pure blinding white light is not easy on the eyes. at all. neither is the light gray on the side bars. I also don’t like how the recent posts is so far down on the page, I rarely suggest anything but maybe, if possible, try putting the latest profiles list in an updating scrolling/scanning form (like stocks or some news broad casts) and it’d be great having more links to stats and stuff(like there used to be) on the sides again or above the newest post, and you guys have a lot of room on the sides bellow the stuff you already have up, you should put it to good use

  100. I like it, but like others have said it’s a tad TOO plain, I miss the tabs at the top. :(

    Maybe FFR could be re skinned to match the color of the new site? Kind clash right now. :P

  101. well not to be mean, but i really dislike the new layout, sure it’s easyer to get to stuff but everything is diffrent now and i liked the other one more, but i guess once there done all the fix ups and stuff it will be ok…i hope

  102. This new layout scares meh. I’m sure in due time more stuff will get crammed and it’ll feel like the olden days again. Cant wait. :)

  103. it’s kind of confusing but you get used to it after a bit.i kinda like the disorder of the other layout.i’ll probably be happy when all the glitches are fixed.

  104. Still waiting for the avmiss fix.

  105. ya..i LOVE the layout! i LOVE the way it looks. its awsome looking! AWSOME JOB, SYNTH! but there is a flaw………..i cant find the forums or anything as easily i did compared to the previous style. i say please tweak the layout a little more. this new style has a long way to go!

  106. I hate it. We should be able to select either the old layout or the new layout with an option in our profiles.

  107. New layout is beautiful.
    A++ would fap again.

  108. I think that it’s easier to use the site, however I liked the colors and the menu bar. It may be hard at first, but it’s going to take some time getting used to.

    Also, the subscription users aren’t in bold like we used to be. Or maybe I’m just blind. Also, your names aren’t in red. It was a lot easier with the red names, I could pay attention to your guys’s responces.

    Overall, I’m sure I will love it. Good going guys.

  109. I must also add, the profile votes are still in the old layout. It made me go “OMG YAY” for a millisecond

  110. Mobile Phone Fleas

  111. Custom colors will return, just give us some time to sort everything out.

  112. looks awesome and sorta similar color scheme with my profile with the silver…nice icons :)

  113. I love this new layout. ^_^

  114. also, what ever happened to the box in profiles that showed your last ten+ posts, I never heard anything about it being removed, or if it got placed somewhere else. I noticed it was gone a long time ago I just never said anything, but it was really handy in finding threads I liked and wanted to come back to.

  115. i dont like this

  116. Real awesome.

  117. I like the new layout much better, but it needs a lot of improvement.

  118. It feels weird.
    I am afraid of new things. Bring it back or I’ll kill an emo.

  119. lookin smooth and clean. i like it.

  120. Wow! The site looks awesome! But the FFR game page is ever more filled with junk than it ever was. I can’t imagine what this would do to slower computers. Maybe we can take out some of the stuff and just have the game centered on the middle of the screen and that’s it. heh.

  121. Mobile Phone Fleas

    That is all.

  122. The FFR game is so laggy. I keep screwing up because it keeps freezing.
    Maybe keep the side bar off of that one page?

  123. I don’t like it as much, maybe it will grow on me though.

  124. Mobile Phone Fleas!

  125. III HATEEE THIS NEWWWW FORMATTT !!! mine is alll messed up I NEDD HELP !!!!! PLease !!!! can’t see my avitar and cant change my backgroundddd !!!!

  126. Some parts I like better- like the right hand side, but I agree with some people it looks less like a gaming sort of website. And, well, I don’t think it’s as original, a little neopets haha.

  127. i love what you did but um my profile i really messed up. i dont know if your working on it or you just didnt realize yet. im just letting you know but good job on this still :)

  128. yes it is easy on the eyes but i liked the old way better. the profiles look weird as well with the empty spaces that r white. my friends even said they liked the old way.

  129. First thing I notice is that my name is “Your”

    First off, my name is “MI4 REAL”
    Second off, how am I going to screencap my stuff now?

    It’s just solid proof that system admins don’t know the phrase “Don’t fix what isn’t broke” and every freakin’ site I’ve gone to they’ve changed the layout or the site itself because it’s too “OLD” or something stupid.

    Also the phrase “Before you change the world, make sure everyone else doesn’t already like it the way it is” comes to mind. Did anyone even poll us first? Forgive me if the answer is “yes”

    Why does everyone think the site layout has to be changed? Why does everyone think there HAS to be a layout change? What was wrong with the old one? You aren’t required to change things, and there was no need to do this!

    This MUST be a W.I.P because if you think navigation is easier now, you’re dead wrong.

    Ironically enough, another website I frequent look like a jumbled piece of crap, but that’s because my temp files went sour and deleting them fixed the problem. Sadly that didn’t work here.

    The front page looks like a(nother) message forum, not a gaming website.

    I’m utterly disappointed that you had to conform to the mindset of every other site admin and change this website to where it’s virtually unrecognizable. I sincerely hope you switch it back, or code an option to let us switch between the 2.

    I’ll still play FFR, always, but it’s not going to be the same anymore. Maybe I’m over-reacting, or being judgmental, but I’m tired of the same old rap. It happens on every damn website I go to. And to some extent, part of the site dies with it. You couldn’t just stick to adding levels, could you? Everytime this stuff happens, a website loses something it never gains back. I’ve been a regular on some websites for over 7 years, so hopefully my words have some weight, and that others will at least see this as a rant with a purpose.

    A lot of you see this as just a layout change, but I see it as a lot more than that. I just hope that FFR doesn’t fall like the other websites do.

  130. I see da potential. We lub you Synth ^_^ thanks for reading our inputs.

  131. MI4 Real:
    Parts of that might be true for this layout change, but it has been done before. The one before the one that you used to see daily was terrible and hard to navigate. That update was needed dearly, and if anything, I believe it boosted the traffic on this website.

  132. I may not be a part of many websites, but regardless, I have yet to see an admin NOT change the face of the entire world on a whim.

    It’s his site, yes, but….you know…….well….it’s just so damn ugly now!

  133. I’m a webmaster of a site for a team at my old highschool, and I’ve only changed the layout once. And that’s because I was asked to :)

  134. Shadowdevil:
    The previous layout (from yesterday)

    -All the nav buttons were at the top, clearly labeled
    -The stats all in one box, and the name in the upper right hand corner
    -The miscellany and stats all together in the left side-bar
    -The profiles neatly stacked
    -And a professional, classic look.

    Now it’s a jaunty mess, and it looks like a very basic web-forum, not an awesome DDR gaming website.

    Profiles are off-center and everything is overlapping.

  135. Well it’s alright and I’m pretty sure that time is the only factor that prevents most people from adjusting to it (really, at least give it a chance) I know there is much more to be done so this is a good start.

    However, I do suggest some sort of color to be added onto the formula rather than the full grey scale. Sorta feels a bit too flat/monotoned in my view. Nonetheless, this should be awesome when fully complete.

    Good job staff.

  136. Well uhh… the stats haven’t really moved much …. That looks rather the same as before.

    The buttons just moved to the left panel, but I do agree, they need to be labeled better.

    The profiles are being worked on if you cared to read anything.

    It’s not a mess, it’s clean, it’s just very very different.

  137. Yeah, I’m just hoping that time is the only factor. That’s what I’m thinking, but I’ve seen that although it might even out over time, it’s possible, and somewhat probably, that people who feel the same way I do will suffer for it.

    First the replay DB wipe (I only had 5 slots!) I lost about 10 videos I wanted to keep badly but are now lost.

    Second is the skewed game screen not aligned with the old stat-bar due to an ad banner.

    And now….I’m just “Your” here.

    There is ONE plus. Next to my avatar, is all my stats. But then again the old way worked too.

  138. Well lets see how this goes. If this turns out to be a sad mess, I’ll just refer to my first posts here.

  139. What is this “your” you’re talking about? If you mean “Your stats:” or “Your profile” I believe those haven’t changed…

    I never experienced the skewed game screen. It might just be my crazy resolution and I noticed no real shift …. I don’t know…

  140. avmiss fix pl0x!

  141. Synth said he’ll release that in the next week or so :)

  142. “this new design at some point will even be variable width for all you wide screen resolution lovers”

    This better mean it still looks good on a 1024×768 or there will be trouble…

    </3 Widescreen

  143. love the new layout. Its got lotsa “Oomph”.

  144. Mobile Phone Fleas. And yeah, loving the new layout. I can’t wait to see the final product. =)

  145. I think it’s a little too clean cut. But it’s easier to navigate. I just want an edgier style… But that’s just me.

  146. XD Egg, Cheese, and biscuit lol
    I like the old look better, but this isn’t bad

  147. P.S. Mobile Phone Fleas XD

  148. thanks for making FFR look more like every other generic forum in existance. simple is great and all, but the last layout let FFR stand out as unique in my opinion.

  149. T.T — Waiting patiently hoping for it to turn out better than it is looking at the moment. I did like the old profile looks though….

    Practice Makes Perfects!

  150. Lol’d at the fact that every link takes you back to the old setup, except profiles and the main page. XD

    Practice Makes Perfects!

  151. It looks almost too professional. Everything’s too clean. If I were visiting a website of a company, then I would expect this sort of website. It looks clean, professional, and simple. However, last I checked, FFR isn’t a company, it’s a game. This new design doesn’t really go with what FFR is. Maybe if I want to buy a computer chip or two, it would be appropriate, but not if I want to play a rhythm game.

  152. I love it!

  153. y dont u have a delet all button for comments and pictures…some people delete all thier comments but tey gtg one my one…plus if people have a lot of pics and want to start over that would b a perfect thing

  154. I really *underlined* am starting to believe that this layout needs more blue. It is very bland. Sorry to be negative. I’ll definitely give it time. Can’t wait to see the end product!

  155. Is blue getting old?
    I mean, it’s been with us for a long time… and I still like it but… mabye try to add other colors than gray and blue and white and black. xD

    Green _O_

  156. Sry for dp (if it is a dp).

    I liked having the whole menu bar up top, I liked having the entire banner a link to FFR homepage, and yes the white spaces around the game and make it more “interesting”, I want my custom backgrounds back (cause I forgot where I got it[time to find a new one]), change out the grey bars with light green to embetter the mood, etc.

  157. not liking the white. too bright. other than that i don’t care.

    also lol @ everyone freaking out.

  158. OH and one more thing, move the comments link to the bottom like before.

  159. It makes me want to mutilate myself.

  160. I don’t fnid the All Game Statistic Link….thats is really gay.

  161. Newest FFR members is still the old layout fyi.

  162. thanks for making FFR look more like every other generic forum in existance. simple is great and all, but the last layout let FFR stand out as unique in my opinion.

    I have to say, that’s a damn good post^

    Sorry about being so heavy-handed earlier, but….we “outgrew” the old layout? That’s….dumb. Sorry man, but that’s a load of offal.

  163. Well, things change, imagine if things were still looking like they were back in 2003, everyone would be sick and tired of it, and maybe things wouldn’t progress. Plus, think of all the users that really liked the last layout, well, that layout was a change from something else. If things would have never changed in the first place, the layout everyone is so sad to see leave would have never even come about.

    So, just give this one a chance, and it will grow on you like any good layout, almost definitely.

  164. Looks more professional for sure. Goodjob.

    [DDRHQ.com]

  165. DONT FORGET TO PUT TOKEN REQ’s LINKS ON MAIN PAGE :)

  166. looks like shit imho rofl

  167. As I mentioned here: http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/vbz/showpost.php?p=2102949&postcount=191

    The header image isn’t all that clean and smooth looking. The separate images that make up the header don’t match up with the header background.

    I also don’t like how the banner is smaller than the size of the ad. The ad gets a lot more attention than the header does.

    I like how you changed the content shown on the sides. It looks neat. I can’t find a stats link on this new layout though, I think one should be added somewhere. Showing less people on the latest profiles is good. The random widget thing is cool.

    Oh and the dark gray background is kinda boring. It might be cool if you had some FFR related image like the FFR guy or some FFR arrows, or just plain arrows tiled in the background. I think the background would even look better if it just was some plain blue color.

    Right now, in the profile page, the background is being tiled in the individual tables in the profile. I hope that gets changed to be the background of the whole profile underneath the header. I don’t mind the small icons for the links on the side of the page when the text isn’t beside them, hovering the mouse over the icon says what it is, and I like that. That’s about all I can think of for now. I notice the background color isn’t working in the profiles right now, and I only know that because my background image isn’t the background for the whole profile, but I’m assuming that will be fixed. Oh, I also like how the bottom area that used to be beneath the profile got removed.

  168. I just now thought that maybe the reason why the background is tiled in the two tables that split up the pages is so that it wouldn’t make a difference between IE and Firfox when viewing the background. If that’s the case, I hope you can find a way to make it so that in IE the background image doesn’t get split in the middle, because I would really prefer the background to be the background for the whole profile.

  169. Im sorry but i really dont like it…its too simple.. and now playing FFR is harder because of all the distracting ads..i wish things would go back to normal….or resemble what it once was.

  170. Oh, I forgot about the game page. I liked how the game page looked before. Surprisingly, I don’t remember very well how it was before, but I think maybe the color of the paged matched the background color in the game, and that looked good. White just contrasts too much in my opinion. Black might be a good color though if you went with a different one, although it wouldn’t really go with any of the rest of the page. While you’re in the web page changing mood, how about creating a page with a larger game size. I usually play FFR with only the flash file open and zoom in on it so that the game is a much bigger size. I prefer playing that way, but it’s unhandy since I have to find out the exact location of the flash file if I don’t have it bookmarked. If you had a page where you had the size of the game much larger, I would play that instead.

    Oh, that just gave me an idea. I could just make a web page on my computer and embed that flash file with the size I want, but I would be the only one who could use it.

  171. Sorry, but there’s more feedback I want to give. The stats in the upper right corner looked better how it was before. I’m not exactly sure what it is that makes it look better. For a while I thought maybe the older stats font size was larger, but when I compared them, the font size looks about the same. So I’m guessing that a lighter colored font looks better on a darker background and the line spacing should be increased a bit.

  172. This seems like something to distract the public from the release of the Beta.

    You guys aren’t giving us the Beta any time soon, huh?

    :(

  173. this doesnt look like a game site at all anymore. it comes off as a corporate dumpsite. peace

  174. lol at foil
    you should change the grey background on the pages to the background thats like on the pro chat that whould look better.

  175. FFR has an authentication test to see if it’s from the web site or not, so embedding it on my own web page kinda didn’t work, but I somehow got it to work by just making it go back from the right click options, but it couldn’t load any songs because there weren’t any to be found. So that idea failed. :(

  176. I wish there was a ‘song list’ on the front page like there used to be, but that’s just me, I guiess. I liek the design, it’s smexy :3

  177. I like the clean, simple look it has now. Keep up the good work ^^

  178. I think i am starting to prefer it and it looks more professional.

  179. Hot, guys. These layout is obviously the best so far.
    Though, there should of been a warning. I soiled my pants when it was updated.

  180. I don’t know if anyone’s said it yet but if you get onto one of the mirror sites, the links on the homepage direct you to the home site (e.x. “flashflashrevolution.com/FFR_The_Game.php” instead of “Studenteducation.net/FFR-The_Game.php”) I just thought I would bring that to your attention, even though I’m sure you already knew, or someone has already said so.

  181. I’m not too fussed on the new layout. Everything to me’s just that bit more confusing now…

    And I know it’s been said before but it would definitely be awesome if there was a toggle music on/off option, not just for the menu but the whole game. Often I’ve been listening to my own music then FFR music would come up – some good, some horrible…

    please consider it!! >.<

  182. k..do something with VIDEO CHAT (please)

  183. There’s no profile backgrounds. It’s just white.

  184. Change the layout of the forum. I like the new homepage.

  185. yee i liked our old video chat
    it was more stylish imo

    i like this layout…sorta
    i liked the other 1 better
    but what would make this just that much cooler

    if you could choose your own colors
    (like as in your profile)
    i mean i have a black theme’d brower
    and i’d be sweet if i could make it match

    of course i’d have it as black background
    blackish blue middle part (lmao i dunno what it’s called)

    and then cyan font

    but i dunno that’s just me

  186. WHERE IS THE FUCKING LINK FOR ALL GAME STATISTIC…..FUCK FUCK FUCK…..C’MON GUYZ.

  187. OK I FOUND it….sry…..its damn complicated…don’t touch anything ….c’mon…..hard to find all our stuff after…..

  188. Ok, apparently I’m the only one who realizes this is an April Fool’s joke. No one in their right mind would think this layout looks good.

  189. For all the people requesting a mute function, you can always download Flash Mute, the installation is not even 300 KB. You can adjust the volume, mute it outright or even mute your entire browser, and it works with basically any browser, like IE, Firefox, Opera etc, really easy to use too, it’s just a little icon in your system tray.

    http://www.indev.no/?p=projects#FlashMute

    It will also mute the ads, which is better than having something in-game, because surely the in-game mute wouldn’t affect the ads.

  190. for suggestions, i think the page needs more color, but not as bright. maybe a light sea foam green or something… i love the color aqua but of course its your site! don’t let anyone make you change it; do what you think is right!

  191. yea i think the grey at the sides should match the top bar, giving the page more color, while still looking professional. also, the loggin at the top needs to be fixed, because after i log in, the page stretches and there is a big block of white.

    overall, its a nice change, and i look forward to more features being added in the future.

  192. I love it! Simple and clean, w00t! <3

  193. It’s a lot harder to play FFR with all the fricking adds but I’m fine with the update otherwise. Too bad playing FFR is the most important thing.

  194. Another fun little observation.. the last layout’s color complimented the actual game of FFR, but now with all the ads and the white background it seems as though the game was just an afterthought to the rest of the site with all the clutter and such. I was under the impression that the site was centred around the game, and if that’s true, the layout should probably reflect that fact.

  195. Where’s the most profilic posters thing?

  196. Yeah, I’m not that fond of this layout. I liked the last one much better. This one has too many ads and not a lot of color. The homepage kinda looks like what you’d find if you spelled the url wrong or something, ya know?

  197. Great Work!

  198. contest?

  199. oh and… 200th…

  200. Very spacious – I like it. There just needs to be a link added for the token and skill token pages.

  201. I love it. You just need a few more little spiffs here and there to fill in the grey space. I liked blue.

  202. oh and speaking of tokens that people have to search for u guys should release more of those

  203. The “recently played:” seems bugged since it shows FCs for some people that don’t have the FC.

  204. hey they updated the site look at where ffr is notice anything new lol

  205. The stuff on the sidebars while actually playing FFR is annoying and a bit distracting, I could do without that. The rest is good though =D

  206. sidebar work in the games is being addressed.

  207. I liked the old one a bit better, I can’t seem to find my way around with this layout.

  208. I lub you Synthy. From this day forward I shall not make fun of Synthlight.

  209. the stats page is all blue lol

  210. I just noticed the the freaking ad on the front page is bigger than the web site banner itself. Lol.

  211. lol at I_like_keys’s post

  212. RSS feed doesn’t work. I get an “end tag unexpected error on line 166.”

  213. ya that must have been really weird and “unexpected”

  214. Ugh, I liked the old layout. This one is so boring..it needs more colors, the color gray kinda makes me mad. It’s just so…blahh. x_x

  215. well look at the ffr stats then u will see dark blue there

  216. All the site backgrounds need to be painted blue to match the game.
    White space only looks good on serious documents, not so much on community web pages. :/

  217. it took me freaking 20 mins to find out how to comment on this i like the layout but its hard to get used to

  218. Well. I just looked at the game page. And it is definitely better than it was earlier. But to me it seemed as if I were playing a game on Ebay (because that was the ad at the top). By any chance.. Will the banner at the top of the page be changed.. Make it bigger possibly? Not so skinny perhaps. So sorry to complain. But it’s just wrong.

  219. I only have one thing against the current layout, and it’s the gray bars inbetween the poster’s name and the actual post. It’s really confusing to see something like this:

    “well look at the ffr stats then u will see dark blue there

    Posted by I_like_keys on April 4th, 2008″

    with gray bars on the top and bottom. Just so you know, that is not I_like_keys’s post, that is the post of the person above him, but the gray bars make things look weird. Maybe you could just move the gray bars so that it seperates people’s names from the posts that aren’t theirs, rather than from the posts that are theirs.

  220. Or, put the “Posted by ____” under their name, if that’s possible. But the gray bars really blow my mind, haha.

  221. I’ll throw it in here, too.. since it might not have gotten caught in the forum:

    Clicking “FFR Profile” in the left navbar sends you to /profiles/ when it should be /profile/, giving you a 403 error.

    Should probably correct that, first. :P

  222. THANKS FOR TOKEN LINK :)

  223. Awesome, the background in profiles got fixed. Now to go change my banner to the new size.

  224. Oh wait, the background is underneath the header. Could it start underneath the header like it used to?

  225. woops, I realize what I said didn’t make much sense. I mean the background currently starts right where the header starts, but the header covers up the part of the background that the header size takes up. It would be nice to have the background start showing right below the header like how FFR handled the the background pictures before.

  226. Lol, I just realized another thing. Having the background start where is is now does fill up the empty space for headers that don’t take up the full width, so I’m not sure which would be the better idea now.

  227. I really hope posting on news post doesn’t count as postwhoring if I post several times in a row. If it does, I’m really sorry. Just another thing, I think I like how you have the background image handling in profiles set up now better. It might be cool if you could choose whether to have the background start where the header starts or right below the header. It seems like that would be tough to me, but if that could be done, that would be great.

  228. Too many posts my dean_machine. Did not read.

  229. Mobile Phone Fleas…
    What was that about?

    Well, I LOVE the new format. It may be me, but it does actually like soothe your eyes. Maybe I’ve been playnig FFR too much. lol

  230. I likey it! Though, it kind of reminds me of a default layout for a blog. Whatever. It’s shiny, like a blog default. :D

  231. It’s so smexi…Seems more like a professional site instead of just a game site.

  232. On the left bar, don’t put “community stuff”, put either just “community” or something like “community channels”

  233. I personally prefer the older one, but maybe because I’m just used to it.. I’ll give this one some time :)

  234. This is just a little too much like facebook

  235. i like the old one

  236. i like the old one better

  237. Instead of it listing “Your stats” on the top-right, list it as “(username’s) stats.

    Please?

  238. OLD ONe OlD oNe

  239. This is all nice and looks great, but what happened to the avmiss fix and new songs event?

  240. so what ever happened to avmiss fix, i was soh hawpee it was coming:’ (

  241. its coming out shortly read the news post

  242. sorry for double post but lol at egg,cheese,and biscuit combo Synth said NEVER to eat

  243. caps so people see my post:
    THIS REMINDS ME OF THE LAST TIME THE SKIN CHANGED.
    DON’T WORRY, WEBSITES NEED TO BE OVERHAULED SOMETIMES TO BECOME BETTER.

    GOOD JOB SO FAR, LOOKING FORWARD TO THE FINISHED PRODUCT.

  244. thanx for the info on the biscuit…

  245. lol np

  246. hindi ko ng isiipan na ikaw ulol. thanks

  247. The borders are better now :D

  248. I liked the old one better.

  249. I like the old layout better, easier to find stuff.

  250. I was getting really fucking tired of blue, too. I like the monochrome feel with the light blue links, but it can be blinding when you sit in a dark room, look away, and then look back again. Not that I don’t approve of the change, although being able to choose a personal colour scheme for the site would be nifty.

  251. if ppl are tired of blue they should have an option on the site where u can choose what colour u want but i prefer blue

  252. Jigglyboy, you’re an imbecile. This IS a game site. This isn’t a freaking blog where you’re supposed to focus on just the text. FFR IS A GAME. While the new site looks admittedly more professional, FFR WAS PLACED HERE FOR ENTERTAINMENT PURPOSES. It was not placed here to sell us houses, or tell us about the current status of somebody’s button collection. For those of you out there who haven’t figured it out already, I care not for this new layout.

  253. Have a profile feature where you can choose a song, either from the FFR song list or Windows Media (or whatever you have) and that’ll play instead of the old background music in FFR1.

  254. question.. now with the new profile where are the tokens? i went to check out the spots where they wer and they arent there anymore?

    aside from that the new layout is slick.

  255. This new layout blows.
    Why? The first thing I see on the mainpage is the huge intrusive ad near the top there… then profiles..
    It took me more than a few seconds to find the play game button.
    Therefore: fail.

  256. Well it’s good but for the widgets, maybe you could put speed mods like in FFR cuz i never play a song under X 1.50 or 1.75

  257. WOOT! I love what you guys bring

  258. hey, are you guys still going to have low res.? sometimes my comp lags and I play like that

  259. Can we get an Option to Delete Multiple Comments at once?

    Like a full “page” at a time.. I have 200 ish like posts or pages I’d like to clear.

    And I’m sure alot of others do too.

  260. o my god i hate flashflashrevolution now
    i like the old layout better now i dont know where anything is now ahhh thnx a lot now i wont be on as much synth change bak

  261. I love how you threaten Sythlight to change the entire website or you will “not be on as much”. Rofl.

  262. Synthlight*
    + How come the first page “recently updated profiles” have gone down from ten to three?

  263. Having ten seemed really cluttered if you ask me… doesn’t necessarily mean Synth shares that sentiment, although what I gathered from this layout change is that clutter was being reduced.

  264. Plenty of suggestions are put out already, so here’s the sum.

    This is dull and (though compact) unorganized.
    Bring the unique back. Not saying the old layout, but I really hope this is DRASTICALLY improved.

  265. personally, i like it… the straight lines eliminate the need for the curved gifs/jpegs, making the site MUCH faster to navigate.

    in short, i approve. good job.

    as a 4th year ffr’er, i have seen this site develop from the rather ghetto roots to the extensive community and diversity it has grown to attain.

    old design = clutter = meh, fail

    this design = less clutter = yes! win

  266. i cant stand why ppl are saying that they hate this layout I LOVE IT

  267. avmissfixxxxxx

  268. Avmissfixxxxxx

  269. avmissfixxxxxx

  270. avmissfixxxxxx

  271. nicely done with the layout.. took out somestuff from the other one… I.E. (5 showing on recently updated profile, TOKesn and Skill tokens page, our profile is kinda.. compaqted =/ and soo on and so forth) but anyways good job.. keep up the good work!

  272. guys at FFR
    please make an option to switch from the old one to the new one

    just because i hate this
    far too bright
    hard to find things
    and the game is centered, i liked it to the side
    atleast if we can have both, everyone is happy

  273. The game was always supposed to be centered. That one time when it wasn’t was simply a glitch of sorts.

  274. avmissfixxxxxx

  275. I think the navigation was perfect in the previous layout. The only thing I like about THIS one is that my avatar and stats are lined up nicely with the game window.

    But, lets face it, this color scheme is BLECH! And don’t do all black, either!

    And…well….that “‘YOUR’ stats” thing is still annoying :(

    I have a name, you know!

  276. Wow! I’ve been using the mirrors for sometime now and i noticed they stopped working so I came to the main page and its all weird now! still its ok!

  277. All of the advertisements on the game page make it look awkward. I mean, I do understand that the site must have advertisements.. But is it possible to switch the positioning of them. The buttons that link you to different pages are near the bottom of the page, which makes you scroll down to click them. (That sounds like I am completely lazy, I know). But it just would make more sense if you could click on it, similar to if it was at the top of the page. Not that it should be moved from the side of the page, but just not at the bottom. I’m really not sure that is even possible for you to do.. But just a suggestion.

  278. this layout is pretty nice, but next time i recommend that you shuffle it

  279. Where is the link to buy FFR goods like shirts and membership etc?

  280. Extremely boring and typical.

  281. I would like to be able to see how long I’ve been a member for at the top of the page like before, too, even though it sounds stupid xD

  282. so yeah any updates? and an avmiss fix would be nice im just saying…

  283. yo synth ur layout automatically sets you from studenteducation.net to FFR when you try to play the game so it get kicked off by the schools blocking system, try to get this problem fixed plz ^_^

  284. when i said my avmissfix comment i meant that only until im done unlocking Frozen Bond which i am going to do rite now

  285. sorry for double post but they added FFR Lo Res to the site now for u ppl who like to play on that

  286. *thumb up*

  287. Ick. I liked the old look better. This one sucks and there are (really) destracting advertisments to the side of the game screen. What have you guys done???!

  288. I somewhat like the old design because it just seemed more “ffr”-ish and it made the website seem like more “guest inviting”. I don’t know… it’s just my opinion.

  289. “All of the advertisements on the game page make it look awkward”, firefox>ad blocker plus. ;)

  290. hey are the non-subscribers ever going to get some of the subscriber features like maybe the key config?

  291. I don’t like it, there should be a way to choose the old or new layout when you log in

  292. you spelled pseudo wrong

  293. someone open the chat please!!!!!!!!!!!!!:D:D:D:D

  294. yeah at first i didnt like it at all but now that im used to it, i see what u guys mean, it s easier on the eyes, and navgation is easier. me likey!

  295. I like it very much, although, while playing Resonance, it would be nice if there was a bar that could take you to FFR, SpinItUp, etc.

    But that’s my two cents. You did fairly well.

  296. I like this layout better than the old one. I think you should keep it unless you gotta better layout. Good job though. Atleast FFR the game is still the same.

  297. I like the layout and everything, but I hate it at the same time. Too much popups and adds… I hate it.

  298. None of my scores are recording. Layout problems, or just me?

  299. I don’t like the add that are next to the actual game. Although I like it being in the middle, those adds can get annoying.

  300. 300th :P
    lol and the layout

  301. oops
    layout need improvement*

  302. I like the proximity of my username/avatar/personal stats and the game window. Nice job there.

  303. Love the layout, except for one thing: It makes the the game lag for me, so I don’t see why I’d keep playing it.

  304. I hope u update the mirrors too, if not, me and many of my friends cant play in school. or other places when the main page isnt working

  305. Not sure if the new layout messed up Resonance, but now unable to add comment. After typing in a comment and clicking on ADD COMMENT. My name shows up but there is no comment – it’s blank.

  306. like the new addition of the shop

  307. sorry for double post even though i dont buy stuff there

  308. omg…where do u go to check skill tokens and tokens now cuz of the update?

  309. *grovels to Synthlight to increase the max available save slots to 25*

  310. You check skill and regular tokens in your profile, just like always.

  311. The subscribe link should be on the home page layout, especially since the layout is planned to replace the old layout where the old layout still exists.

  312. gay

  313. You know, I really can’t stand that lack of colour. Maybe if you could make the site more playful and colourful. Chuck some large different colour arrows in at different angles in the background maybe, and go back to the blue colour scheme.

    It IS a game site after all. Not a professional company’s home site. I’m not buying all the white and greyness. Sure, it’s clean, but it’s boring as ever.

  314. xxxxxxifssimva

  315. kpmuzik u dont need to mirror “avmissfixxxxx” lol anyways the new site is going under great changes keep up the good work

  316. don’t fix average misses until my subscription expires

  317. lol

  318. Haha, I didn’t even recognize the site! I like the new design though.

  319. I love it how everyone is commenting on the webpage instead of the winner of the SC.

    Wasn’t a good song or submit, imo. Needed more work and time.

  320. I love how the comments on the news posts look now. :D

  321. Even if what a little subscriber says doesn’t matter I have to say that this lay-out may be sleeker..its is definately not easier to use. The older layout had simplistic buttons but now we have symbolic icons. The extreme lack of color may be easier on the eyes of some players, but not on younger players with more time on thier hands.

  322. I like the design now but it could use some more color, or

  323. um where’s the rest of my comment?

  324. “The extreme lack of color may be easier on the eyes of some players, but not on younger players with more time on thier hands.” Um, what?

  325. ITP: FFR LAYOUT DISCUSSION.

    What it should be: WINNAR OF CONTEST DISCUSSION.

  326. Actually, this new layout got me screwed up. I was posting in the wrong comment thing.

    /fail :(

  327. ok I like the design but it looks so boring… What happened to the cool blue theme?

  328. why is this the oly thing in my news feed?

  329. Don’t you acknowledge that it’s the best time to get the mortgage loans, which would help you.

  330. @@@

  331. THIRDSTYLE SWAG

  332. What in the absolute fuck is this? Why is this a first page post.

    What the hell happened to the front page.

    #RIP

  333. nice

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