TWG CIV: FFR Tournament - Reality Parallax

[Svaz]

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To expound a bit on something that kinda jumped out at me:

1. Because I didn't wanna be caught looking like I was jumping on the bandwagon. That was an easy tactic that I used back in last game when I was a wolf, so I didn't want to fall back to that similar pattern and then someone like you (with your logic/reasoning skill set) comes along and goes back to digging stuff up from last game and using it against me this game.

2. I didn't feel like bandwaggoning on him because I felt it was too easy for us to kill a potential green. Why is he trying to make himself look like a sandbagger really doesn't make any sense but you'd think if he was a real sandbagger, he'd try to hide it a little better....

That's pretty much the extent of my motives as far as voting back on D1.

As for me voting for funny, once again, I didn't want to be caught bandwaggoning James, hence why I voted back to funny and then back to Xiz when I re-read sunfan's statement properly.

RE point #1: if you felt it was the right thing to do, why not go with it anyway? I think if you're making a move with sincere human intent, you'd be able to explain your rationale in a way that made sense. I think being overly concerned with appearing wolfy is, well, indicative of someone who has ulterior motives outside of securing a win for a town. Multi-game conflict is just something you'll have to deal with!

I suppose it's just personal preference, but I feel like trying to modify your current playstyle for the long haul detracts from the current game. Granted, I suppose if someone plays a LOT that's pretty fair as an approach. Ah, I dunno. I can definitely concede that this is a personal agenda.

All this contemplated, I suppose I don't find it surprising you went with a vote for him today, but that you would both vote and rescind so quickly makes me a bit concerned; who are you placating? I don't want to blindly jump onto a LYNCH-BUS involving you either, not yet, anyhow, so I'll abstain for now.

[Svaz]

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[Svaz]

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holy shit that image was just a bit bigger than I expected, lo siento

[Silvuh]

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Though I don't agree with James's rhetoric ... his refusal in the chat to insta himself is what a human should do.

So Gradiant, will you be moving your vote?

Near the beginning, you got a little heat from V and defended yourself well (#130) ... and posted a follow-up shot at James, who has been the easy "Your play is anti-town" target. V soft-cleared you, and after one more back-and-forth, there's nothing more for a while ... You didn't post again until a vote right back on James (#347) in the next phase. Your clarification (#356) repeated a lot of pnt's sentiments about the Xiz lynch, so it's good that we agree that it was a big, fishy mess. You pointed to the first four people to vote for Xiz after #278 as being a teeny bit suspicious ... but that was all.

Have you expanded on those suspicions?

P.S. I was awake all night for no good reason, so I'll be out of it for a while today. Sorry for being a derp.

[pntballa18]

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yeah v/james looked kinda shady day one, and now paintballa/james are doing the same dance.

i'm fine with a james lynch, and if he flips red we should probably look to paintball next.

james

So if james comes back as a wolf, you think that would make me the next most suspicious player? That's an interesting idea, could you elaborate a bit?

[James May]

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So if james comes back as a wolf, you think that would make me the next most suspicious player? That's an interesting idea, could you elaborate a bit?

You also forgot that there is a miller as well pnt. And i do concede that I jumped to the conclusion that xiv was MW, but why are you hasty in assuming that I come back as a wolf if miller comes back as a red as well?

[James May]

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Though I don't agree with James's rhetoric ... his refusal in the chat to insta himself is what a human should do.

So Gradiant, will you be moving your vote?

Near the beginning, you got a little heat from V and defended yourself well (#130) ... and posted a follow-up shot at James, who has been the easy "Your play is anti-town" target. V soft-cleared you, and after one more back-and-forth, there's nothing more for a while ... You didn't post again until a vote right back on James (#347) in the next phase. Your clarification (#356) repeated a lot of pnt's sentiments about the Xiz lynch, so it's good that we agree that it was a big, fishy mess. You pointed to the first four people to vote for Xiz after #278 as being a teeny bit suspicious ... but that was all.

Have you expanded on those suspicions?

P.S. I was awake all night for no good reason, so I'll be out of it for a while today. Sorry for being a derp.

That's where I was going with the whole "witch hunt" when I responded to Svaz's post. They assume that a town needs to play a certain way and because how I play is different veers them to assume that I'm a red when the shouldnt assume that just by playstyle.

[dAnceguy117]

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James May

(1 from insta)

[James May]

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@Charu: I hope that the explanation that I told you last night cleared some things up about your curiousity.

[James May]

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James May

(1 from insta)

Care to explain?

[dAnceguy117]

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sure. in #396 you give credence to the idea that you'll flip red. yes we all know you've claimed VT, and yes there's a red miller in this game, but you seem pretty worried about it. I think it's because you already know what you're going to flip.

also I think Riot is a wolf and the interaction (or lack thereof) between you two looks ultra sketchy to me.

[pntballa18]

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You also forgot that there is a miller as well pnt. And i do concede that I jumped to the conclusion that xiv was MW, but why are you hasty in assuming that I come back as a wolf if miller comes back as a red as well?

I didn't forget. Just like I thought it would be a bad idea to assume Xiz is the MW after a green flip, I think it would be a bad idea to assume you're the miller if you come back red.

[Gradiant]

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So Gradiant, will you be moving your vote?

No. I believe James is still more suspicious than the 4 I had listed and my vote will reflect as such.

You didn't post again until a vote right back on James (#347) in the next phase. Your clarification (#356) repeated a lot of pnt's sentiments about the Xiz lynch, so it's good that we agree that it was a big, fishy mess.

Same as above response, James is still strongly suspicious of me and it was somewhat agreed in the Skype Chat that he would be a strong candidate.

You pointed to the first four people to vote for Xiz after #278 as being a teeny bit suspicious ... but that was all.
Have you expanded on those suspicions?

No. At least not yet. Because as I said in that post, those were only slight suspicions that could just as easily have been excitement of something large going down like what happened. I still stand with James being more suspicious and a better vote because if he's red = good for us. If he's green = he has done nothing other than butthurt arguing alongside the slight slips and contradictions I have mentioned him making before so we wouldn't be missing much. If he is out this phase, people will stop voting for him and lean towards the only slightly suspicious people so that will take care of that last little bit of my previous post.

Hope this explained what you wanted.

[pntballa18]

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Fojar is going to come back day 3 having never read either this post or post #395.

[dAnceguy117]

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Riotpolice just told me he hasn't added James May on Skype and was unaware that James May had a Skype account.

Riotpolice and James May were talking at the same time in the TWG Skype group last night. James's nickname there is James May.

interesting stuff