TWG CII: 0rbs of power

[j-rodd123]

Re: TWG CII: 0rbs of power

I disagree. The tracker will know that he didn't use the seer orb next phase. He wouldn't have said in the thread that he used it if he didn't use it.

why? wolves don't need the seer orb since they know who the reds are. he just happened to pick the 1/9 person who actually was blue, he clearly didn't use the orb, hopefully it got randed to a human now though. i'm thinking we have another seering as well as a vigi right now.

plus tracker is dying tonight

[j-rodd123]

Re: TWG CII: 0rbs of power

unless he used it on someone, got a green result, and then fake claimed sunfan. don't know why they'd do that, but he definitely didn't use the orb on sunfan or else he would have gotten blue.

but if the small chance he did seer sunfan and got blue, then came out to him saying he got a green result and remained persistent on it, then

LOL WOLVES

, but this is super unlikely imo

[j-rodd123]

Re: TWG CII: 0rbs of power

this is just worthless speculation, but i'm guessing he didn't use the orb and it was just randomed amongst the living. if this happened, whoever got it DO NOT claim in the thread, just go to sunfan and tell him you have the orb and he can confirm that the seer orb is still in play

[freakysnots]

Re: TWG CII: 0rbs of power

Orbs reset once all orbs are used.

Netjet even mentioned himself that we should be saving orbs for situational usage. It's in the wolves best interest to waste orbs, and using a seer on anyone in night 1 would have done that.

Also the tracker knows if netjet used didn't use the orb yet he still gave a reading in the thread meaning that he used it. At the end of tonight, the tracker is going to get a reading that netjet still has the orb since he didn't use it on night 1.

Read the description of the Tracker: The Tracker will receive a pm at the end of each night telling him who had an orb during the night phase. He will not be told if the orb was used or not.

Wolves also benefit from orb resets happening more frequently as it gives them a chance of rolling the vigi orb. A vigi for the human team just accelerates the game by having "2 lynches" per phase, but a vigi for the wolf team means "2 kills". 2 kills has more value than 2 lynches since kills are more accurate.

[dAnceguy117]

Re: TWG CII: 0rbs of power

Someone needs to be at fault for wasting the guard orb and therefore causing our Tracker to die.

note that it's a wizard orb. using it on the tracker would neuter the tracker's ability anyway.

this is just worthless speculation, but i'm guessing he didn't use the orb and it was just randomed amongst the living.

pretty sure the seer orb still wouldn't replenish in that case until the vigi is used.

[j-rodd123]

Re: TWG CII: 0rbs of power

if you were given the seer orb now, it means netjet was holding onto it. Do not claim in the thread, but tell thesunfan you got it and he can relay the message.
if you were given the seer orb now, it means netjet was holding onto it. Do not claim in the thread, but tell thesunfan you got it and he can relay the message.
if you were given the seer orb now, it means netjet was holding onto it. Do not claim in the thread, but tell thesunfan you got it and he can relay the message.
if you were given the seer orb now, it means netjet was holding onto it. Do not claim in the thread, but tell thesunfan you got it and he can relay the message.
if you were given the seer orb now, it means netjet was holding onto it. Do not claim in the thread, but tell thesunfan you got it and he can relay the message.

[freakysnots]

Re: TWG CII: 0rbs of power

unless he used it on someone, got a green result, and then fake claimed sunfan. don't know why they'd do that, but he definitely didn't use the orb on sunfan or else he would have gotten blue.

but if the small chance he did seer sunfan and got blue, then came out to him saying he got a green result and remained persistent on it, then

LOL WOLVES

, but this is super unlikely imo

I wasn't around for all the AIM conversations off the thread, but I read somewhere in the thread that everyone found sunfan to be human from purely the conversations.

I believe he didn't give his true target in order to not provide human team with more helpful information by taking a 1 / 9 risk.

[j-rodd123]

Re: TWG CII: 0rbs of power

Orbs reset once all orbs are used.

Netjet even mentioned himself that we should be saving orbs for situational usage. It's in the wolves best interest to waste orbs, and using a seer on anyone in night 1 would have done that.

Also the tracker knows if netjet used didn't use the orb yet he still gave a reading in the thread meaning that he used it. At the end of tonight, the tracker is going to get a reading that netjet still has the orb since he didn't use it on night 1.

Read the description of the Tracker: The Tracker will receive a pm at the end of each night telling him who had an orb during the night phase. He will not be told if the orb was used or not.

Wolves also benefit from orb resets happening more frequently as it gives them a chance of rolling the vigi orb. A vigi for the human team just accelerates the game by having "2 lynches" per phase, but a vigi for the wolf team means "2 kills". 2 kills has more value than 2 lynches since kills are more accurate.

yes but he could have held it for 1 or 2 more nights, since we don't know who has the vigi orb, it would also force the tracker to claim. like we KNOW he didn't actually seer thesunfan, unless

LOL WOLVES

choooooooooked

[freakysnots]

Re: TWG CII: 0rbs of power

note that it's a wizard orb. using it on the tracker would neuter the tracker's ability anyway.

i confused wizard with guard. fuck

[j-rodd123]

Re: TWG CII: 0rbs of power

I wasn't around for all the AIM conversations off the thread, but I read somewhere in the thread that everyone found sunfan to be human from purely the conversations.

I believe he didn't give his true target in order to not provide human team with more helpful information by taking a 1 / 9 risk.

yeah that's the likeliest explanation assuming it was used, and right now it is just speculation, hopefully he didn't and someone comes to sunfan, but again it's not like either way can be definitive

[j-rodd123]

Re: TWG CII: 0rbs of power

note that it's a wizard orb. using it on the tracker would neuter the tracker's ability anyway.



pretty sure the seer orb still wouldn't replenish in that case until the vigi is used.

it was my understanding if it wasnt played and the user died, it would be randed. manti wasn't clear on that, but i think i read a post from V that implied that in the host signups thread

[j-rodd123]

Re: TWG CII: 0rbs of power

Anyways, this isn't a big deal, the primary focus is the use of the vigi orb. I was originally gonna suggest that if X is lynched and flips a wolf, then look at next 2 people with highest votes and vigi between them. if we had a seer we would seer the other. since that can't happen anymore, it's a bit different

[freakysnots]

Re: TWG CII: 0rbs of power

wtf does a wizard do. does it prevent the role from actions as well as prevent actions on the role?

[j-rodd123]

Re: TWG CII: 0rbs of power

wtf does a wizard do. does it prevent the role from actions as well as prevent actions on the role?

a wizard is a roleblocker + a guard, who's roleblock also affects wolf kills. think of it as a jailer, as it is referred to elsewhere, they choose someone to put in jail and that person can't use any of there actions or have any action take place on them (including if they were seered, vigid, etc.)

[j-rodd123]

Re: TWG CII: 0rbs of power

so if someone was a wolf and they were wizarded, and that wolf sent in the nightkill, the nightkill would be blocked