TWG CII: 0rbs of power

[dAnceguy117]

Re: TWG CII: 0rbs of power

YMIA is most definitely on the table but this is tricky. we should do our homework and we shouldn't jump to conclusions.

[DarkManticoreX2]

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Open Memo to the players: Quit multi-shitposting.

You're allowed to be double posting when they're seperate thoughts addressing TWG issues. Dance that was 9 posts in a row for no reason. Knock it off.

[thesunfan]

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pretty sure that the seer orb was actually used on me. Netjet kinda hinted that it was. On the off-chance that is actually wasn't, I agree with j-rodd, come to me. I've got to get to class, and there's a lot more I want to say, but if there's anything I learned last night, its that reading the rules is a bad idea.

[Tps222]

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yoman/tps clearly on the table based on responses. i'll reread the thread close to 8pm tonight since i have a dentist appointment after work and have to submit an assignment.

lol what responses? Are you nervous that I potentially linked you to Netjet and want to bury that? Are you trying to extend your streak of making the wrong read on me?

Anyways, here is a chat I had with Xiz yesterday way before the lynch discussing our thoughts on Netjet potentially being a wolf:

[10/21/2013 1:50:58 PM] tps222: netjet rings high on the wolf chart for me
[10/21/2013 1:51:08 PM] Vincent - Xiz: well not just my reason being validated, but its the best method greens can go
[10/21/2013 1:51:17 PM] Vincent - Xiz: I'm open to other suggestions
[10/21/2013 1:51:21 PM] Vincent - Xiz: but why turn down a 2 for 1 deal
[10/21/2013 1:52:24 PM] tps222: It's a terrible decision if you're human.
[10/21/2013 1:52:38 PM] tps222: I'd rather push for Netjet with you alive.
[10/21/2013 1:52:45 PM] tps222: Can you briefly refresh me on your theory?
[10/21/2013 1:52:58 PM] Vincent - Xiz: short and simple version:
[10/21/2013 1:53:28 PM] Vincent - Xiz: Orbs reset.

If sunfan gets seer orb, use on Xiz
if anyone else gets seer orb, use on Netjet
[10/21/2013 1:53:34 PM] Vincent - Xiz: Now here is why:
[10/21/2013 1:54:15 PM] Vincent - Xiz: Just because net jet says sunfun is human means NOTHING. A wolf could easily get the orb. Now, it would be stupid (if NJ was a wolf) to say sunfan was a wolf, because that would literally kill net jet the next day
[10/21/2013 1:54:47 PM] Vincent - Xiz: If we get a seering on net jet, we can confirm human or wolf with that orb. The chance of 2 wolves getting the orbs is very unlikely
[10/21/2013 1:55:10 PM] Vincent - Xiz: If the result comes human for net jet, then sweet. Netjet and sunfan are humans. Alliance can be formed.
[10/21/2013 1:55:29 PM] Vincent - Xiz: If net jet is a wolf, we simply kill him, then PERHAPS question sun fan. Perhaps.
[10/21/2013 1:55:38 PM] Vincent - Xiz: I haven't decided where to go in regards to that yet
[10/21/2013 1:55:46 PM] tps222: Can I pause you for a second?
[10/21/2013 1:55:48 PM] Vincent - Xiz: but this is mostly creating an alliance for greens
[10/21/2013 1:55:49 PM] Vincent - Xiz: yeah sure
[10/21/2013 1:56:02 PM] tps222: [Monday, October 21, 2013 1:54 PM] Vincent - Xiz:

<<< Just because net jet says sunfun is human means NOTHING. A wolf could easily get the orb. Now, it would be stupid (if NJ was a wolf) to say sunfan was a wolf, because that would literally kill net jet the next day
[10/21/2013 1:56:12 PM] tps222: Agreed.
[10/21/2013 1:56:25 PM] tps222: [Monday, October 21, 2013 1:54 PM] Vincent - Xiz:

<<< If we get a seering on net jet, we can confirm human or wolf with that orb. The chance of 2 wolves getting the orbs is very unlikely
[10/21/2013 1:56:26 PM] tps222: Disagree.
[10/21/2013 1:56:54 PM] tps222: You already make the point of saying that a wolf who got a seer orb would not claim that a fellow wolf is human, correct?
[10/21/2013 1:57:03 PM] tps222: Due to the cardflip death that would ensue.
[10/21/2013 1:57:12 PM] tps222: With that in mind, there is no reason to seer
[10/21/2013 1:57:37 PM] tps222: The only reason to seer would be if Netjet was a wolf and sunfan is a human
[10/21/2013 1:57:40 PM] tps222: and netjet is just telling the truth
[10/21/2013 1:57:45 PM] tps222: That is the smarter wolf play
[10/21/2013 1:57:51 PM] tps222: because if we were to lynch netjet red
[10/21/2013 1:57:56 PM] tps222: we'd be all up in arms over sunfan
[10/21/2013 1:58:04 PM] tps222: but then we'd waste a lynch on sunfan and he'd be human
[10/21/2013 1:58:08 PM] tps222: just as the wolves planned.
[10/21/2013 1:58:31 PM] Vincent - Xiz: This is just to confirm greens
[10/21/2013 1:58:32 PM] tps222: I guess what I'm saying is that the probability is in our favor with that.

[j-rodd123]

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thanks for finally responding and contributing, you're LOCK CLEAR (lol). i'm not nervous, if you were around last night around 9pm you would've seen the progression on Netjet. I didnt even try and bring up my contribution there but you felt the need to go and quote your "read" as if you had something to prove......

maybe i'd feel better for you if you actually pushed your reads, still wolfy

[j-rodd123]

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all that conversation shows is it is extremely unlikely, and i really don't think possible, that you and xiz are wolf/wolf. after that talk you ended up revenge safetying danceguy then never returning

[j-rodd123]

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extend my streak to 2 games yes that's what im trying to do. regardless, the thread will come to a consensus as to who to lynch, i just think you need to be a possibility

[j-rodd123]

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not lynch, vigi*, although this vigi potentially could be a second lynch

[freakysnots]

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tps, i'm not sure what you are trying to highlight from posting the conversation with xiz.

tps that means nothing. thread was moving towards the mentality of seering netjet eventually. placing xiz close to insta gave you away.

you removed the vote off of xiz and actually took the time to talk to him after danceguy removed his vote and the bandwagon on xiz lost steam. (see bdn's vote)

you cleared xiz of suspicion at 2pm but taken the vote off of him at 5pm, giving some time for the bandwagon to pick up again, which it didnt.

the bit about netjet was your scapegoat incase he got seered at a later time. i don't see where the suspicion for netjet came from at that time from tps.

[thesunfan]

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I am very suspicious of freaky, and tps both. However, I doubt they are both wolves. Right now, I'm leaning towards tps being a wolf moreso than snots though. Gonna have to vote for tps for now.

[Tps222]

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tps, i'm not sure what you are trying to highlight from posting the conversation with xiz.

tps that means nothing. thread was moving towards the mentality of seering netjet eventually. placing xiz close to insta gave you away.

you removed the vote off of xiz and actually took the time to talk to him after danceguy removed his vote and the bandwagon on xiz lost steam. (see bdn's vote)

you cleared xiz of suspicion at 2pm but taken the vote off of him at 5pm, giving some time for the bandwagon to pick up again, which it didnt.

the bit about netjet was your scapegoat incase he got seered at a later time. i don't see where the suspicion for netjet came from at that time from tps.

The suspicion came from just reading the tone of his posts. Not enough to place a vote though. I'm not trying to claim any credit for the lynch, jrodd, I just thought it was funny.

Yes most of the stuff I do happens outside the thread and I haven't done a good job at making that transparent. Im perfectly happy to talk to you 1 on 1 freaky, just message me anytime after 5PM pst, or say what you want here.

I think xiz/jrodd/freaky are all leaning town. Dance guy and yoman are leaning wolf. Charu and rsd/bdn make up the middle tier of suspicion.

[Xiz]

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This might be irrelevant, but here is something people should probably note:

Tps Wolfiest person on the list for me. Night 1, you "required" that every single person playing the game MUST contact you, or better have a damn good reason for not doing so. It's a little weird that you're so incessant on talking to literally everyone and getting info from them on the first phase of the game, but sure that's fine, I won't complain about that. What really bothers me (which was something I hadn't realized until it was pointed out in Google Hangouts) is your complete and utter lack of followup. Who did you talk to? What did they say? These are relevant things that we all want to see, and it looks like you're withholding the info from the public. Looks to me like you just wanted to look really active and participate a lot out of the thread, collect information for your wolf team, and then conveniently drop off the world. I don't want you lynched right now, because I want that information first. D2 or 3 lynch for you.

((XIZ EDIT - ALL OTHER READS ARE HERE ))


NetJet I personally don't doubt his read. Not really following the suspicion on him either.

Why would he put netjet green? Did he believe the seer claim after the push that he COULD be lying? Perhaps. That could happen. But it doesn't explain his vague and very short answer about Netjet.

Now, back on topic about TPS:

I love the obvious polar opposites of possible wolf targets, as TPS was the first person on his list on the other end. Now here is the interesting thing about that google hangout he is talking about:

• - YMIA was not paying attention at all during that call. He was distracted, never has his head facing the camera, and instead distracted playing a game, until his name or other names came into consideration. In fact, when I asked his opinion about jrodd specifically, it took him a bit to realize I was talking to him. (I don't remember the answer, but it seemed like fluff to me) I'm thinking he only joined to be less wolfy to the rest of us in that call trying to get something done.
  - YMIA never gave any of his own opinions at all. Everything he stated was in somewhat agreement with what was said in that call.
  - Now i'm not saying YMIA did not listen at all during that call, but perhaps he only listened when people of interest were talking? Perhaps. Join the call, get our thoughts early, and use them as early indication to show constant pressure

Overall, this separation from YMIA -> TPS is something to note.

[thesunfan]

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If you're gonna look at the lists, I had netjet in green on my more updated list lol. I do think that what he did in the call was a *bit* suspicious BUT
1) He left early.
2) I think he *might* have been just trying to get a lay of the land, since he wasn't very involved in the game beforehand.
3) Monster Hunter is really fun!

Anyways, I think that he is suspicious, but that both you (that means you Xiz), and tps are far more suspicious at this point.

[thesunfan]

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Votes for the Vigi are as stands after Freaky didn't Magenta his vote and Pete took back his.
Xiz (1) - Charu
YMIA (1) - Xiz
tps (1) - thesunfan

[Xiz]

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Fine fine... it would just make sense with his patterns that he would separate himself that much from the wolves.

Also...

you cleared xiz of suspicion at 2pm but taken the vote off of him at 5pm, giving some time for the bandwagon to pick up again, which it didnt.

^ I never noticed that lolz. He has a point...

I guess what I am saying, is that I am fine with a vigi on YMIA or TPS. I just want to keep YMIA in the picture