TWG CXLVII - Read The Setup. (Game Thread)

[thesunfan]

Re: TWG CXLVII - Read The Setup. (People have Died. D2)

@AA I didn't elaborate on why I felt like you pocketed me for a few reasons

1) I don't have much on it beyond a feeling. I talked about it earlier where I compared myself to Dlgn in the freeze wars when he was talking to you trying to reason with you because he thought not only that you were town but an intelligent town. The way you're responding to some things this game feels not stupid or anything like that but... different. What scum has to say, and fiction/v taught me this when I was a youngin', is inherently going to come across as weird to an experienced player BECAUSE they are lying and don't believe what they're saying. Some stuff that you're saying this game rubs me ever so slightly the wrong way, like you don't believe what you're saying. Some of the stuff you're saying, and I'll feel bad if you're town for saying this because if you're town I think you're playing this game slightly better than I am, is a bit beneath you as a player.

2) I wanted to see if you'd get frustrated. You kinda did, but not as much as I expected. Oh well, it was mainly the first reason

[_Zenith_]

Re: TWG CXLVII - Read The Setup. (People have Died. D2)

@DBP, I know you outted with good intentions, I don't think you're a saboteur or anything like that.

But you fucked up. Don't do what you did. It ruins games.

This is just over the top on being harsh, imo.

I don't consider this game ruined because he outed as a wolf.

[thesunfan]

Re: TWG CXLVII - Read The Setup. (People have Died. D2)

I also hadn't reread yet and I wanna do that before I expand on most of my reads.

[DaBackpack]

Re: TWG CXLVII - Read The Setup. (People have Died. D2)

i'm feeling pretty crushed atm

[AragakiAyase]

Re: TWG CXLVII - Read The Setup. (People have Died. D2)

@AA I didn't elaborate on why I felt like you pocketed me for a few reasons

1) I don't have much on it beyond a feeling. I talked about it earlier where I compared myself to Dlgn in the freeze wars when he was talking to you trying to reason with you because he thought not only that you were town but an intelligent town. The way you're responding to some things this game feels not stupid or anything like that but... different. What scum has to say, and fiction/v taught me this when I was a youngin', is inherently going to come across as weird to an experienced player BECAUSE they are lying and don't believe what they're saying. Some stuff that you're saying this game rubs me ever so slightly the wrong way, like you don't believe what you're saying. Some of the stuff you're saying, and I'll feel bad if you're town for saying this because if you're town I think you're playing this game slightly better than I am, is a bit beneath you as a player.

2) I wanted to see if you'd get frustrated. You kinda did, but not as much as I expected. Oh well, it was mainly the first reason

1) that's lame and you're going to feel bad

2) I didn't get that frustrated because it seemed like you had left for the night and you've withheld info from me multiple times before so it's kind of whatever now

[thesunfan]

Re: TWG CXLVII - Read The Setup. (People have Died. D2)

This is just over the top on being harsh, imo.

I don't consider this game ruined because he outed as a wolf.

Its against the very fiber of the game. This game runs on the wolves not outing themselves so that town has to catch them. There should be an aura of mystery to just about any lynch/kill. Yes, things like redchecks happen, but the cop can be lying there can be millers etc. Its very rare (and, in my opinion, dumb) that something like an oracle reveals a player and 100% town knows the alignment of a player (Innocent Child is excluded from this).

If wolves claim, TWG just isn't TWG. Its something else entirely.

Sorry if I was harsh, I've said I'm going to stop talking to him like I am, but I am pretty disappointed in him.

[AragakiAyase]

Re: TWG CXLVII - Read The Setup. (People have Died. D2)

also sunfan I know you have to reread to get your reads again but where exactly is some of this stuff that rubs you the wrong way? is it early on in the game? later?

[DaBackpack]

Re: TWG CXLVII - Read The Setup. (People have Died. D2)

Its against the very fiber of the game. This game runs on the wolves not outing themselves so that town has to catch them. There should be an aura of mystery to just about any lynch/kill. Yes, things like redchecks happen, but the cop can be lying there can be millers etc. Its very rare (and, in my opinion, dumb) that something like an oracle reveals a player and 100% town knows the alignment of a player (Innocent Child is excluded from this).

If wolves claim, TWG just isn't TWG. Its something else entirely.

Sorry if I was harsh, I've said I'm going to stop talking to him like I am, but I am pretty disappointed in him.

I wouldn't do this if there wasn't another wolf team out there, even if there was a serial killer

[AragakiAyase]

Re: TWG CXLVII - Read The Setup. (People have Died. D2)

Its against the very fiber of the game.

I think this applies in general *but* I think this setup offers some very interesting mechanics due to the potential 2 wolf teams (which we seem to have here) so I don't think DBP outing in this particular setup is as bad as you seem to think it is

but it's irrelevant at this point

[AragakiAyase]

Re: TWG CXLVII - Read The Setup. (People have Died. D2)

I wouldn't do this if there wasn't another wolf team out there, even if there was a serial killer

oh look I got ninjad

[thesunfan]

Re: TWG CXLVII - Read The Setup. (People have Died. D2)

i'm feeling pretty crushed atm

I'm sorry. I don't want you to feel sad, but some of the things I've said probably can make you feel that way. I *hate* saying this too normally, but we can talk after the game or something if you want. You just can't do what you did.

For real though, I'll stop now.

Gonna hang out with someone from college (rare for me I know), I've gotta go shopping sometime today and shit so I probably won't start rereading until tonight.

[thesunfan]

Re: TWG CXLVII - Read The Setup. (People have Died. D2)

also sunfan I know you have to reread to get your reads again but where exactly is some of this stuff that rubs you the wrong way? is it early on in the game? later?

all through the game

[thesunfan]

Re: TWG CXLVII - Read The Setup. (People have Died. D2)

all through the game

like, not every single post or anything crazy like that, but I've felt this way for a good bit. There was something you said at some point that put you way up on my reads list but I don't remember what it was and I'm hoping to go over it again later.

[AragakiAyase]

Re: TWG CXLVII - Read The Setup. (People have Died. D2)

all through the game

alright this doesn't fly with something I remember let me go dig it up

[thesunfan]

Re: TWG CXLVII - Read The Setup. (People have Died. D2)

I wouldn't do this if there wasn't another wolf team out there, even if there was a serial killer

I kind of don't want to talk about it anymore. Its not the worst thing I've ever seen someone do, not even close.