TWG CLXI - Egregious Miscalculations GAME THREAD

[Hakulyte]

Re: TWG CLXI - Egregious Miscalculations GAME THREAD

I'm asking you why the Scumcop DFR that you described would defend you in the world that you described. You're the only one who can answer that because it's your speculation in the first place. I can't "ask him" because he can't answer that. Only thing he can say is "idk because I'm not the scumcop".

I said red herring and you said no to it.

I'm currently rereading the thread for DFR. I'll try to see if I can find something relevant to that.

[ShadoWolfe]

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@dfr you had haku as a solid town at one point and now you're suspicious of him? don't accuse me of flipflopping lmao

He's not. He's defending Haku and sayimg Haku reads purely.

Also I left you a post a little bit ago, can you please try to do what I asked of you?

[Hakulyte]

Re: TWG CLXI - Egregious Miscalculations GAME THREAD

My guess would be that he's fruit vendor and don't know for sure himself because he would only have kills to rely on.

[ShadoWolfe]

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I said red herring and you said no to it.

I'm currently rereading the thread for DFR. I'll try to see if I can find something relevant to that.

I said no to the red herring reasoning because that is based on the assumption that DFR gets lynched today, which I don't think is something that was going through his mind considering the fact that everyone was talking about lynching you when he defended you.

So go on. Explain to me why he'd do that in your world with your reasoning.

This is like the bajillionth timr you've made me go ????? and I'm really starting to run out of excuses for you

[roundbox]

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EOD is in 4 hours and 42 minutes.

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[Hakulyte]

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I said no to the red herring reasoning because that is based on the assumption that DFR gets lynched today, which I don't think is something that was going through his mind considering the fact that everyone was talking about lynching you when he defended you.

If you're basing my "speculation world" with that reasoning, I simply don't know. I didn't take lynch candidates in mind while doing this.

[ShadoWolfe]

Re: TWG CLXI - Egregious Miscalculations GAME THREAD

My guess would be that he's fruit vendor and don't know for sure himself because he would only have kills to rely on.

Ninja'd.

Okay, so you realized that there's no reason "scumcop DFR" would defend you unless he knew you were scum. See why I was getting frustrated?

[dadcop2]

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I'd like to see dadcop's analysis of Haku this phase, including a paragraph specific to Haku's interaction with me, and a paragraph specific to his interaction with MML. I'd also like his thoughts on DFR's response.

Everyone has written walls, dadcop. Please help us carry this through and bring it home by being willing to write a few paragraphs on your thoughts.

when you and haku were arguing, he really did make a lot of stumbles i've noticed. like for example those 5 reasons, i really didn't see before that, as you pointed out, yeah 2 of them are mutually exclusive. what really got me is that he ended up taking the loss and admitting to being in the wrong without further defending himself. maybe he thought he'd just dig himself into a deeper hole and he'd be more likely to survive if he just admitted it? whatever he was thinking, he gave up. now it COULD have been an honest mistake, but now i'm trying to focus on what he does afterward to prove he's town.

his interaction with mml is less substantial imo and mml pretty much nailed it. yeah, he made a bad push and regretted it, and mml saw that as wolfy cuz at that point, haku was clearly just trying to get heat off himself. again, haku acted in a bad way but i'd rather wait and see what else he does.

dfr's response didn't matter to me so much except for the fact that he clearly had haku as town before (#2453) and then questioned me about flipflopping on haku. really dude? you post that and then you decide to look like a hypocrite? lmao

[ShadoWolfe]

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If you're basing my "speculation world" with that reasoning, I simply don't know. I didn't take lynch candidates in mind while doing this.

I think I know what's going on here.

DFR is trying to pocket me in case he dies, flip wolf and this goes to F3.
The reason would be to associate his flip with mine so you guys have more reasons to lynch me next phase.

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[dadcop2]

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He's not. He's defending Haku and sayimg Haku reads purely.

Also I left you a post a little bit ago, can you please try to do what I asked of you?

i was working on it, turbo. i guess dfr didn't change his stance on haku officially. but looking at posts #2556 and #2548, he was definitely unsure about haku there

[Hakulyte]

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when you and haku were arguing, he really did make a lot of stumbles i've noticed. like for example those 5 reasons, i really didn't see before that, as you pointed out, yeah 2 of them are mutually exclusive. what really got me is that he ended up taking the loss and admitting to being in the wrong without further defending himself. maybe he thought he'd just dig himself into a deeper hole and he'd be more likely to survive if he just admitted it? whatever he was thinking, he gave up.

Okay, explain to me what did I give up and why does that make me scum.

[Hakulyte]

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真真真真真真真真真

I had red herring in mind while posting this.

[ShadoWolfe]

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when you and haku were arguing, he really did make a lot of stumbles i've noticed. like for example those 5 reasons, i really didn't see before that, as you pointed out, yeah 2 of them are mutually exclusive. what really got me is that he ended up taking the loss and admitting to being in the wrong without further defending himself. maybe he thought he'd just dig himself into a deeper hole and he'd be more likely to survive if he just admitted it? whatever he was thinking, he gave up. now it COULD have been an honest mistake, but now i'm trying to focus on what he does afterward to prove he's town.

his interaction with mml is less substantial imo and mml pretty much nailed it. yeah, he made a bad push and regretted it, and mml saw that as wolfy cuz at that point, haku was clearly just trying to get heat off himself. again, haku acted in a bad way but i'd rather wait and see what else he does.

dfr's response didn't matter to me so much except for the fact that he clearly had haku as town before (#2453) and then questioned me about flipflopping on haku. really dude? you post that and then you decide to look like a hypocrite? lmao

Thanks. EoD is in four hours, are you gonna be around?

If it were right now, who would you vote? Second choice?

[dadcop2]

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You can't fucking be serious right now how am I even suppose to take you seriously let alone think this is from a town

fuck




Yeah because if it is and you're saying it isn't that means you are backpeddling

Which you just fucking admitted to in the most wolfy way possible so yeah that's moot

@haku
this post should answer your question

[Hakulyte]

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@haku
this post should answer your question

It doesn't because of this post:

I skimmed most of yesterday's EoD and assumed the main wagons were danceguy/dadcop2 only. It's actually a surprise to me that you were a potential lynch candidate. The timing of these posts goes around when I was receiving a call from my friends and didn't pay as much attention to the thread. I ended up leaving and miss this EoD. I expected to get replaced out, but apparently I wasn't absent long enough to justify a replacement.

It's so coincidentally unlikely that it makes me feel bad for not realizing it sooner. I wasn't really paying attention as much as I should have about others pushing you.

dadcop2's push on you makes me facepalm btw, but I feel like I did similar things as him in my previous games where I misread you. I hope he actually put some work eventually.



Yeah, I'm starting to realize why MML was talking about me trying to bait.

^
@ MML "Start by conceiving me that the "Baiting Lar to act" theory is wrong."

That's where I am for this one.