Re: TWG CLVI: The Grand TWGabout - GAME THREAD
that is the only thing I can say about Tokzic at the moment, he has nothing else to offer
that is the only thing I can say about Tokzic at the moment, he has nothing else to offer
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Re: TWG CLVI: The Grand TWGabout - GAME THREAD
i promised you guys some reads
sorry if it looks like i'm being super short with this, it's a little more granular than e.g. mashi or AA reads
never write posts in notepad it is the worst
thinking less wolfy:
AragakiAyase has certainly made some odd-sounding posts that people like to pick on (like the 72-hour dig), but honestly he's made some great posts since then and i think opposition to him is mostly just attitude being attitude
reuben_tate was all right while he's been around, i'm okay with keeping him on town side because of his focus on gradiant until gradiant came in and clarified a bit
thesunfan has worried me a lot by pushing really hard on the meta, especially on how hard he cut into DBP, but since then he's generally been a driver of discussion
XelNya towerposts are apparently a thing (ugh, thanks zenith for the heads-up) but he's done some work in calling things out where he sees them
Charles Claythorne is the cutest, but i'm also a fan of him poking at details like "does dbp usually enter the game in a particular way?" just kind of pulling out the unspoken things and not taking them with tacit acceptance.
MixMasterLar could still be antitown as mentioned, but i doubt wolfy; honestly i'm still going with the 2 wolves reason, rather than buying into sunfan's meta read because i feel like he'd have said "X would never do A" either way (having read that postgame). it's just a turn of phrasing that i don't think has as much significance. he wanted to raise AA's comment and that's how he did it.
null:
(almost by definition a lot of these reads are meh)
Xiz is hard to read either way for me because while he's been hounding some details now, he played a sloppier early game that xel picked on him for
Gradiant is quite a lot of concentrated salt, but he did have one post against AA that i'm not sure if AA just missed or dismissed as repeating the same things
Tokzic is pretty quiet, but i'm not sure why people are making so much out of his "hard claim". i'm not taking it seriously because afaics going yolo doesn't benefit the attorneys
Charu's catch-up has read more like a stream of consciousness as he reads the thread to me than a critical analysis, wish he'd worry less about his formatting looking like :effort:
Arntonach put in some effort now but it doesn't really scream town to me more than "okay this is actually my attempt at doing a first close read"
_Zenith_ hasn't really pushed me one way or the other yet even with his whole page but he's caught up now at least. it's a little close to EOD unfortunately
YoshL is all right, mostly playing defense and unfortunately this d0 is a weekend
Yoshiisland seems decent and i like that he's getting in more interactions today, talking to zenith
thinking more wolfy than not:
DaBackpack got called out for not posting (sunfan's meta read) and then really needed to save face, which i'm not quite sure he's done - he got mostly bogged down in responding to yoshl and asking MML what counting meant. it doesn't seem like the best follow-up to a push even though he did put some care into it - he got the whole "i can understand why you see me as wolf" part but not so much a "here's why i'm not"
Wineandbread's main contribution seems to be wagoning hard with the meta on DBP (which itself may be fizzling by this point?); also he still hasn't voted as he promised or posted anything saying he'd do otherwise? honestly i'm seeing his contribution as near zero even though it seems like he'd have been around enough to say more, and that's odd to meComment
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Re: TWG CLVI: The Grand TWGabout - GAME THREAD
also this amazing thing turned out to be in my playlist: eAeon - Harder Better Faster StrongerComment
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Re: TWG CLVI: The Grand TWGabout - GAME THREAD
Why are all my town reads giving Xel's post the thumbs up? omg
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Re: TWG CLVI: The Grand TWGabout - GAME THREAD
indheart's read on MML seems like he actually thought about the readComment
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idk why i typed "since then" for sunfan
he's been pushing discussion for a whileComment
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Re: TWG CLVI: The Grand TWGabout - GAME THREAD
VOTE COUNT
Xelnya -> Mashi
Xiz -> AA
Yoshiisland -> Charu
YoshL -> thesunfan
Gradiant -> AragakiAyase
Xiz -> Charles Claythorne/Mashi
YoshL -> inDheart
Xelnya -> reuben_tate
inDheart -> Charles Claythorne/Mashi
thesunfan -> inDheart
inDheart -> Unvote
AragakiAyase -> inDheart
YoshL -> AragakiAyase
Xiz -> AragakiAyase
inDheart -> AragakiAyase
AragakiAyase -> Unvote
AragakiAyase -> Arntonach
MixMasterLar -> Wineandbread
MixMasterLar -> Unvote
thesunfan -> DaBackpack
Charu -> DaBackpack
Xelnya -> Xiz
YoshL -> MixMasterLar
Xiz -> MixMasterLar
DaBackpack -> MixMasterLar
inDheart -> Unvote
AragakiAyase -> Charu
MixMasterLar -> DaBackpack
Tokzic -> inDheart
Arntonach -> Charu
thesunfan -> Unvote
Yoshiisland -> Unvote
thesunfan -> DaBackpack
reuben_tate -> Charu
ARagakiAyase -> Unvote
Arntonach -> Unvote
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MixMasterLar
X.X.X
DaBackpack
X.X.X
AragakiAyase
X
Charu
X
Xiz
X
inDheart
X
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Unvote:
Yoshiisland
inDheart
AragakiAyase
Arntonach
Yet to vote:
Wineandbread
_Zenith_
Charles Claythorne
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Today's theme:
Originally posted by the sun fan
I'd be too tiny to be a bouncer
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Re: TWG CLVI: The Grand TWGabout - GAME THREAD
I'm kind of ignoring new players at the moment
Originally posted by MoogyOriginally posted by TWG Dan HedgehogComment
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Re: TWG CLVI: The Grand TWGabout - GAME THREAD
Don't know why people are complaining about charu's posts, they don't take much effort to read throughComment
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Re: TWG CLVI: The Grand TWGabout - GAME THREAD
arnt: post about hatetrain on me being dumb and other synopsisish stuff, not very useful, but he's done stuff like this as both town/SK I think? not really a fan of where he says he wants his posts to be good as a justification for being inactive. pretty much his entire reads list is "I can't read this"??? someone pushed him to try harder, I think he does so in his next post. he does here. I actually agree with the results of most of his reads, even if I don't really like how he got to them (or in some cases, the lack of how he got to them). I don't like how he just threw a vote on charu at what seemed like a convenient time after I had been reiterating my scumread on him, but looking at arnt's reads it seems more consistent. What I don't understand is what makes you think MML isn't an SK, elaborate? not very comfortable with you still, could lynch you but I think if you can expand more that may change.
mashi: post 243 where he discussed with me how I thought indheart's "deflection" was wolfy is good, because when he said that I thought more about how likely it was that it could come from a human as well as scum, even if my resulting conclusion was still the same. going to lazily summarize his wall-posts here, they (by his own admission) align with sunfan's observations who I'm townreading so that's good. I also like how at the top of post 536 he made an observation about how the delay between my vote and reasoning leans him more town. it's a subtle thing that I think would be more likely passed over by a wolf mashi. post 682 I mindmelded with the majority of his reads at the time (island I had as null/scummy iirc before he responded to me). ok not much more to say, there's not really something that I dislike about mashi atm. I disagree though in 838 that the bickering between MML/others is all human, I think there's probably a scum in there (one in indheart/MML perhaps). Do you still think MML is town? anyways no way am I touching mashi today, strong town
yoshl: yoshl's annoyance at MML seems genuine and his point about MML seemingly lumping him in with other inactives, and then not following up I also like. his next two posts where he discusses DBP's meta with me are fine, but he didn't say anything about DBP yet which DBP pointed out and yoshl said it was because of not reading the thread enough, so actually this sentence isn't going anywhere. in his interactions with MML yoshl definitely comes out looking better, especially since MML seems to be ignoring things that yoshl is saying like how he wasn't up to date with the thread. will probably see more when I look at MML. post 782 was fine. I'm fine with yoshl today like I was before rereading, tone/aggression seems in line with town play
indheart: I voted him early on for what I thought was both appeasement and deflection here. he then voted me after xiz, saying I read too much into his posts and was being weird, which I said was bs. he addressed my accusation against him fairly well though in post 247 though. I think someone brought up this post and how it was just wrong, but I dont' remember who/where so I'm bringing it up again. I don't like 616 because he throws out two options for MML, says he doesn't know which to choose, but then doesn't elaborate further on which he thinks could be more likely based on xyz, instead choosing just to say "let's talk about it". He also did the same thing in a post about DBP in 603, where he summarized what people had said about DBP, didn't say anything himself, then asked what other people think. and I found that it was sunfan who addressed the post I linked that was incorrect by indheart so we're good. post 703 I didn't like because as I said, it pretty much felt like him just yelling at MML but not talking about the actual content and what MML's behavior meant. He then responded with 711 which was nice. I'm pretty null on indheart overall, he's done stuff I've liked and disliked. I feel like he's very neutral though until prompted, there are multiple posts that I've noted where he mentions something and then comes to no conclusion, instead asking for other people's thoughts first. I'd be ok with lynching him but probably not today
fuuuuuck there are too many people in this game
I will not be doing this again if I live
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