Re: TWG CVI: United Nations
Grabbed Iran's reads so we can look at them.
This was really early on before Germany started to really get posting. I'm not sure if it's relevant now.
Well we know how Mexico turned out but I guess it would be good to think about these others in here.
There are some good points in there.
I'm not sure if it was that Iran was on to a wolf that they were killed or what. It's something to be considered. I want to see what everyone else has to say on this subject though.
Grabbed Iran's reads so we can look at them.
My country would really like to hear more from Germany and England. As of right now I could see myself lynching any of them for lack of effort, despite promises of better effort. Germany's day 1 play when boiled down looks like inactivity untill being called out and then just a defensive. There was no effort at all to find the terrorists. Very similarly with england
I'm also working under a theory that Germany was unhappy with several of his teammates, and may have used this post:
To attempt to galvanize Japan to post (maybe a wolf teamate who was falling under the hammer).
I'm also working under a theory that Germany was unhappy with several of his teammates, and may have used this post:
To attempt to galvanize Japan to post (maybe a wolf teamate who was falling under the hammer).
Eh I don't know how I feel about some of the players in this game right now. So I'll try to put together a thought process process of elimination post" Warning, Kinda long.
Opening Assumptions:
1.TWG Brazil
4.TWG Sweden - Based off of japan's out post probably human. I'm not sure a wolf would do this?
5.TWG Germany
6.TWG Italy
8.TWG India
10.TWG England
11.TWG France
12.TWG Mexico - I kinda think Mexico's being bandwagoned. Like you guys just took my word for it that I didn't kill Canada (I didn't, but I wasn't even considered an option). That seems weird.
13.TWG Russia - Trying to form an opinion
14.TWG United States - Human I guess pretty active and leading searches/discussion
19.TWG Egypt - Human
20.TWG Iran - Human
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So I feel pretty good about those reads. Lets narow it down:
1. TWG Brazil
5.TWG Germany
6.TWG Italy
8.TWG India
10.TWG England
11.TWG France
12.TWG Mexico - I kinda think Mexico's being bandwagoned. Like you guys just took my word for it that I didn't kill Canada (I didn't, but I wasn't even considered an option). That seems weird.
13.TWG Russia - Trying to form an opinion
There should be 4 wolves in here. For the moment I'll trust France's read on Germany, but doing so removes france from the pile (unless the pair is w/w or france is the w in a w/h pair)
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That leaves my reads at:
1. TWG Brazil
6.TWG Italy
8.TWG India
10.TWG England
12.TWG Mexico - I kinda think Mexico's being bandwagoned. Like you guys just took my word for it that I didn't kill Canada (I didn't, but I wasn't even considered an option). That seems weird.
13.TWG Russia - Trying to form an opinion
I don't know If I see 4 wolves in this pile. I kinda think India is just dumb. I feel like Italy is good intentioned, and his reads are similar to mine.
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If I take those out I'm left with
1. TWG Brazil
10.TWG England
12.TWG Mexico - I kinda think Mexico's being bandwagoned. Like you guys just took my word for it that I didn't kill Canada (I didn't, but I wasn't even considered an option). That seems weird.
13.TWG Russia - Trying to form an opinion
These are my current 4 wolves, but I'm not confident on Mexico/Russia at all. I do have good feelings on Brazil and England though.
Opening Assumptions:
1.TWG Brazil
4.TWG Sweden - Based off of japan's out post probably human. I'm not sure a wolf would do this?
5.TWG Germany
6.TWG Italy
8.TWG India
10.TWG England
11.TWG France
12.TWG Mexico - I kinda think Mexico's being bandwagoned. Like you guys just took my word for it that I didn't kill Canada (I didn't, but I wasn't even considered an option). That seems weird.
13.TWG Russia - Trying to form an opinion
14.TWG United States - Human I guess pretty active and leading searches/discussion
19.TWG Egypt - Human
20.TWG Iran - Human
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So I feel pretty good about those reads. Lets narow it down:
1. TWG Brazil
5.TWG Germany
6.TWG Italy
8.TWG India
10.TWG England
11.TWG France
12.TWG Mexico - I kinda think Mexico's being bandwagoned. Like you guys just took my word for it that I didn't kill Canada (I didn't, but I wasn't even considered an option). That seems weird.
13.TWG Russia - Trying to form an opinion
There should be 4 wolves in here. For the moment I'll trust France's read on Germany, but doing so removes france from the pile (unless the pair is w/w or france is the w in a w/h pair)
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That leaves my reads at:
1. TWG Brazil
6.TWG Italy
8.TWG India
10.TWG England
12.TWG Mexico - I kinda think Mexico's being bandwagoned. Like you guys just took my word for it that I didn't kill Canada (I didn't, but I wasn't even considered an option). That seems weird.
13.TWG Russia - Trying to form an opinion
I don't know If I see 4 wolves in this pile. I kinda think India is just dumb. I feel like Italy is good intentioned, and his reads are similar to mine.
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If I take those out I'm left with
1. TWG Brazil
10.TWG England
12.TWG Mexico - I kinda think Mexico's being bandwagoned. Like you guys just took my word for it that I didn't kill Canada (I didn't, but I wasn't even considered an option). That seems weird.
13.TWG Russia - Trying to form an opinion
These are my current 4 wolves, but I'm not confident on Mexico/Russia at all. I do have good feelings on Brazil and England though.
I'll adress the points of divergence then. That seems productive.
India- Look at India's post history, their day 1 play is 8 posts and none of it any more then attempted humor banter. IIRC they didn't even place a vote D1. If you're a human, you're stupid because we need to kill wolves and as bad a chance of killing a wolf we have d1 we need to take it. If you're a wolf this is also odd play because you stick out like a sore thumb for trying to stay away from making enemies. It just seems like a player who isn't playing much attention. I really just want to see more posts from India that provide us insight on their perspective. All I see now is agreement and lazy play.
Italy - these two posts come off humany to me. The good intentioned part comes from multiple posts saying it's dumb for a wolf to namekill because of the risk. (conversly I could see this as double talk and Italy being the wolf doing all the namekilling but thats a wide angle for now)
Pissed in general after a blue died (SK) I think this is more human pissed that we lost a blue then wolf pissed that one of his teammates took a shot at killing a human. I don't know if I see a wolf making this post.
This is extremely similar to my read on Germany. Yes i'm giving germany a temp pass, but it's so close to my read we have to be coming from similar perspectives. It's usually kinda hardfor a wolf to duplicate a human's perspective.
Mexico - I just feel like Canada's death is being blamed on mexico, despite us not having any proof who did it, or when the kill was sent in Just because Canada died when Mex/me/usa/france was in the thread, doesn't mean thats one of the people who killed canada. Mexico had the worst reaction/approach to it I guess, but even if he did post on his lunchbreak, what would he defend against? the evidence built against mexico is built on faulty logic imo.
Brazil made it to the bottom of my list through process of elimination. Most people build their lists from the bottom up going "Who do I think the wolves are". I think sometimes it's helpful to build it the other way and go "Who am I really confident is a human" and build it in reverse. It helps to see the plyers you have bad/no reads on.
India- Look at India's post history, their day 1 play is 8 posts and none of it any more then attempted humor banter. IIRC they didn't even place a vote D1. If you're a human, you're stupid because we need to kill wolves and as bad a chance of killing a wolf we have d1 we need to take it. If you're a wolf this is also odd play because you stick out like a sore thumb for trying to stay away from making enemies. It just seems like a player who isn't playing much attention. I really just want to see more posts from India that provide us insight on their perspective. All I see now is agreement and lazy play.
Italy - these two posts come off humany to me. The good intentioned part comes from multiple posts saying it's dumb for a wolf to namekill because of the risk. (conversly I could see this as double talk and Italy being the wolf doing all the namekilling but thats a wide angle for now)
Pissed in general after a blue died (SK) I think this is more human pissed that we lost a blue then wolf pissed that one of his teammates took a shot at killing a human. I don't know if I see a wolf making this post.
This is extremely similar to my read on Germany. Yes i'm giving germany a temp pass, but it's so close to my read we have to be coming from similar perspectives. It's usually kinda hardfor a wolf to duplicate a human's perspective.
Mexico - I just feel like Canada's death is being blamed on mexico, despite us not having any proof who did it, or when the kill was sent in Just because Canada died when Mex/me/usa/france was in the thread, doesn't mean thats one of the people who killed canada. Mexico had the worst reaction/approach to it I guess, but even if he did post on his lunchbreak, what would he defend against? the evidence built against mexico is built on faulty logic imo.
Brazil made it to the bottom of my list through process of elimination. Most people build their lists from the bottom up going "Who do I think the wolves are". I think sometimes it's helpful to build it the other way and go "Who am I really confident is a human" and build it in reverse. It helps to see the plyers you have bad/no reads on.
I'm not sure if it was that Iran was on to a wolf that they were killed or what. It's something to be considered. I want to see what everyone else has to say on this subject though.
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