Turbo XV: Nickelodeon's Worst Show Ever - Game Thread

[lurker]

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I think everyone wanted it, I just suck and can't make good poll options

well that's just demonstrably wrong

[sanzath]

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Rarely gets used
Town is incentivized to basically always lynch. Want to try and figure out why, or you want me to tell ya why?

probably something about how if town starts nolynching, wolves stack up kills faster than towns do

Haku had his nice post in jTWG where 2 no-lynches in a row would extend the game by 1 phase in the worst case scenario though, so that might be a point for nolynching

but it really only applies if we're bad

[Cold Kitten]

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It's ok, we can still be friends if you want to.



Hey, your sig is sick, what's it from?

Kiki's delivery service

i have no clue why freezin is content to leave his vote on roundbox with ~4 hours left in the day when he could've unvoted and still avoided getting phantomed
hopefully it's just that he doesn't know that's a thing

I don't think phantoms are on right??? Or did I misread the setup again lmfao

[lurker]

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both parts obviously
l0l sanzath it's a bit early to pull the NL card

[the sun fan]

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well that's just demonstrably wrong

I think the majority wanted it*
but you're right that it probably SHOULD be repolled

that being said when phases end is something the mod initially decides, people are SUPPOSED to read the OP before signing up (says someone who didn't read it) to avoid these kinds of conflicts.

[lurker]

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judging by the last game nobody knows how to read OPs

[sanzath]

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l0l sanzath it's a bit early to pull the NL card

this is my second FFR game, I don't know the NL meta :'(

besides I'll probably change it another dozen times before EOD

[the sun fan]

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probably something about how if town starts nolynching, wolves stack up kills faster than towns do

Haku had his nice post in jTWG where 2 no-lynches in a row would extend the game by 1 phase in the worst case scenario though, so that might be a point for nolynching

but it really only applies if we're bad

Alright, I love Hakulyte, but some of his advice and behavior is either just wrong, or misleading.

You're right that town should lynch as often as possible BECAUSE wolves kill gain more kills, I guess to be more specific they will deny town additional lynches for each successful nightkill they make where town decides to lynch no one instead of lynching someone where there are an odd number of players alive during a day phase, but that's a mouthful, so here' an easy cheat-sheet.

Are there an odd number of players alive?
Yes-----> Lynch someone
No------> Probably still lynch someone

The only time you ever see No Lynch occur where its actually correct are exceedingly rare situations where town has made it to the late-game with a lot of power roles left, and sleeping on average will generate more information/kills than a potential correct lynch would (which I've seen like one time in my life) or the much more common "There are 4 players alive during a day phase with one wolf and three town players so we should always sleep"

Even sometimes in those, sleeping doesn't work, really depends on the setup.

[sanzath]

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like right now

@blindreper I see you sneakin', what's up

[the sun fan]

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judging by the last game nobody knows how to read OPs

Did you read it this game or that one?

[lurker]

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Did you read it this game or that one?

yes

[the sun fan]

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yes

Yeah, I guess that makes sense.

[sanzath]

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Alright, I love Hakulyte, but some of his advice and behavior is either just wrong, or misleading.

You're right that town should lynch as often as possible BECAUSE wolves kill gain more kills, I guess to be more specific they will deny town additional lynches for each successful nightkill they make where town decides to lynch no one instead of lynching someone where there are an odd number of players alive during a day phase, but that's a mouthful, so here' an easy cheat-sheet.

Are there an odd number of players alive?
Yes-----> Lynch someone
No------> Probably still lynch someone

The only time you ever see No Lynch occur where its actually correct are exceedingly rare situations where town has made it to the late-game with a lot of power roles left, and sleeping on average will generate more information/kills than a potential correct lynch would (which I've seen like one time in my life) or the much more common "There are 4 players alive during a day phase with one wolf and three town players so we should always sleep"

Even sometimes in those, sleeping doesn't work, really depends on the setup.

So just lynch, always, except when someone says "maybe we shouldn't lynch so we can be F3 instead of F4" which might still not work since the wolf could just go and kill the confirmed town if there is one.

[the sun fan]

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So just lynch, always, except when someone says "maybe we shouldn't lynch so we can be F3 instead of F4" which might still not work since the wolf could just go and kill the confirmed town if there is one.

Yeah you got it basically
sometimes you want to sleep even if there is a confirmed town, but that's a decision that's usually up to the confirmed town.

[Cold Kitten]

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greg doin' his good 'ol TWG coaching thing again