TWG CXLVII - Read The Setup. (Game Thread)

[rzr]

Re: TWG CXLVII - Read The Setup. (Game On! D1)

Also, it doesn't matter if you meant it as self pres or not.

It's how I took it. I commented on why it made you in a scummy light for me. Just like YoshL was saying to me, your words aren't always taken the way you intend them. I saw you jumping from one suspect to another, then settling on who had the most votes, as self pres.

[_Zenith_]

Re: TWG CXLVII - Read The Setup. (Game On! D1)

Glad to see you're paying attention to looking for scum and not your usual narrow minded tunnel vision. These two quotes are why I'm not bothering to reply to you. I read everything that comes out of your keyboard because it's relevant to the game and analyzing you as a player. If you can't be bother to do the same then I'm literally wasting my time talking to you.
Zenith, you have a knack for looking at things from a certain POV and sticking with that. It's detrimental to this game if you're actually interested in the changing opinions and fluxuation of the game.

yeahh.. nothing personal fyi, just don't think you're worth talking to if you don't think I'm worth a thought either

I won't apologize that you and botchi are literally the same person and extremely easy to read without much inspecting.

I have to sit down and try for a solid 20 minutes in pure isolation to determine reads on harder players, but with you two I could spend a few minutes of skimming and understand what you are through your own dialogue.

To me you coming back with more, lengthier posts slightly hints you are trying way too hard after a shitty start. #SorryNotSorry

[rzr]

Re: TWG CXLVII - Read The Setup. (Game On! D1)

did you say you still had more analysis to do? I missed that

I'll say it again, but my issue is that you don't seem to be following up very strongly on all of your observations. For the most part, you make them and then leave them. It's more summary than analysis and the latter is what we need to see. anyone can summarize something but the content of your analysis and your reasons for making certain conclusions are what help to determine your alignment

I think you're scummy because I'm not seeing any paranoia/doubt in your posts. You seem much more sure of yourself and comfortable in your reads which I don't remember seeing in any of your town games. In your town games you always have at least one wild tinfoil scenario. I also don't see your usual incessant questioning in an attempt to get reads on people and gather information, you only question/probe when pressured. (I said most of this in an earlier post)

Well, amigo, I think relying on meta to pin anything alignment indicative on me is a bad idea. I, admittedly, try to change my meta on a constant basis as I feel misunderstood.

I appreciate you making that a little more clear. I am by no means more confident in this game btw, just bored with the same routine. I read, analyze, post, and get told every read I have is scummy lol. I'm not saying it's happening now - I'm saying there's no point in trying to reinforce my thoughts when the more I push them the more "wrong" they become in public eye (though I've had plenty of times I've accused people of being a role they actually were, and that applies to all of us).

As far as my tinfoil, I'm surprised you're not seeing it. I'm not well versed with the set up, it confused me, so I removed role based thoughts from my tactics and moved it towards aligment based.

And on the analysis note, I didn't sit here for 4 hours putting this together because I wasn't analyzing. I think you guys just don't look at what I say as analyzing because you guys do it different than me. If you want a certain format for analysis please let me know, otherwise I'll continue with quote walls, comments, and reads lists. Gaah!

[AragakiAyase]

Re: TWG CXLVII - Read The Setup. (Game On! D1)

So my updated reads list at this point:

Gradiant: Null/slight town lean, he hasn't done much but when he has posted he's seemed convicted and like he's intensely scumhunting

Zenith: null/slight town lean, xel did a bunch of shitposting but he had some questions here and there, I've seen nothing wolfy from zenith

reuben: scum lean for proposing that we lynch choof/haku (which shouldn't happen today, probably shouldn't happen ever) on a weak premise (flips confirming others), someone pointed this out already but his tone seems a bit different from previous town games

charu: null I have no idea

sunfan: pretty null, he's been asking a lot of questions and chiming in on things but I feel like his own opinions are somewhat lacking

MML: started out real scummy, is a bit better now, don't want to lynch today

dbp: started out pretty strong, has dropped off today, pretty null

rzr: scummy for reasons I've stated multiple times; lack of paranoia/doubt, much more confidence than normal, lack of questioning/detective work. even when pressured he seems less defensive than normal (more defensive as town)

choof: probably never lynch

botchi: probably never lynch

haku: pretty town

lurker: kill

tldr;

don't lynch: haku, choof, botchi, zenith

maybe lynch: MML (not today), ben, sunfan, backpack, charu, jake

lynch: rzr, lurker

[rzr]

Re: TWG CXLVII - Read The Setup. (Game On! D1)

Zenith, you say you can read my so easily, what am I? And why do you have whatever opinion you come to conclude?

[_Zenith_]

Re: TWG CXLVII - Read The Setup. (Game On! D1)

AA is sliding straight outta null into a town lean this phase.

He isn't rolling over when someone confronts him and imo that's a town quality moreso than a wolf who'd likely disassociate themselves with confrontation.

[AragakiAyase]

Re: TWG CXLVII - Read The Setup. (Game On! D1)

I'm not looking for a certain format rzr, I'm looking for you to state what your conclusions are. I can't read your mind, you've said a lot of stuff but don't seem to have a clear diretction

[_Zenith_]

Re: TWG CXLVII - Read The Setup. (Game On! D1)

Zenith, you say you can read my so easily, what am I? And why do you have whatever opinion you come to conclude?

You are probably what you have been the last few games, a severely misconstrued townie.

[rzr]

Re: TWG CXLVII - Read The Setup. (Game On! D1)

I think the chances of AA being scummy are getting higher:

I like the sentiment saying you prefer to lynch wolves than to lynch for information, but that would imply you think directly lurker and myself are scum. I've heard your comments on me, why lurker? I've commented on my lurker thoughts about how I don't think he's acting towny, but I can see him being town easily and the wagon against him being scummier than the man it's on

[_Zenith_]

Re: TWG CXLVII - Read The Setup. (Game On! D1)

DBP, be analytical and come join this debacle of words :^ )

This is me inviting you to join conversation because I need more information to further influence a read so I'm not paranoid.

[_Zenith_]

Re: TWG CXLVII - Read The Setup. (Game On! D1)

Willing to bet 10,000 credits that lurker flips town when lynched/killed.

[Hakulyte]

Re: TWG CXLVII - Read The Setup. (Game On! D1)

rzr is playing like me. He's still trying to build his own meta and that makes him inconsistent with himself.

AA is playing town hard and is trying to get more information constantly to help his own read and the game at same time.

I think you two are clashing with each others for the wrong reasons.

I want more DBP input as well if possible.

[AragakiAyase]

Re: TWG CXLVII - Read The Setup. (Game On! D1)

I think the chances of AA being scummy are getting higher:

I like the sentiment saying you prefer to lynch wolves than to lynch for information, but that would imply you think directly lurker and myself are scum. I've heard your comments on me, why lurker? I've commented on my lurker thoughts about how I don't think he's acting towny, but I can see him being town easily and the wagon against him being scummier than the man it's on

l m f a o

lurker isn't doing shit, all he's done is throw a few random votes around and is currently sitting on me

zenith meta on him says he's VT but I don't buy it

also notice that I haven't actually voted him because iirc he's still at L-2. how does anything you pointed out make me scummier?

[rzr]

Re: TWG CXLVII - Read The Setup. (Game On! D1)

You are probably what you have been the last few games, a severely misconstrued townie.

Interesting. Than why do you want to lynch me?
To eliminate town?

I only state that imo lurker will flip VT and you and botchi are failsafe lynches.

These 2 statement directly contradict each other, unless a) you want me lynched for personal reasons or b) you actually think eliminating town from PoE's pov is beneficial. And that's assuming you're town, which at this point I am not assuming that

it's not - any human will say the more green around the better, regardless of inactivity or such.

[AragakiAyase]

Re: TWG CXLVII - Read The Setup. (Game On! D1)

Willing to bet 10,000 credits that lurker flips town when lynched/killed.

we can kill rzr today if you want