TWG CXXI Mis-speling BOM

[iluswirl]

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Obviously the lauynch is going to be benieficial in the information deparrtment, but looking through the 3, I really don't like the fact that blynd wagined off v, even if cedload did help justify it.

A lunch on plop culd be usefull in that (to my understandin) if the sk choze to be sear immune, that could have been the case. Basically unles I m mistaykun he culd b sk amirite?

I personuly don lyk lynch dbp.

[blindreper1179]

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Let me be clear, I didn't start a wagon or push for v. I blatantly said why I voted him and didn't try to get him lynched.

[iluswirl]

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Fair point

[Silvuh]

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So I'm awake now and still playing, so unvote. I'll figure out something else to do.

... Oh. And I'm an idiot, because I went back to 733 again and only just noticed the phase ends on Sunday, not Saturday. Don't know why it felt like it had been two days already.

[DaBackpack]

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Lol I totally believed you when you said EOD was today, oops

[Charu]

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So, you suspect me, huh? If I'm understanding your post, you're suspecting me on the premise that both of them said I was town, is this correct?

I like this line of thinking, but your lead on me is wrong. I think they kept on saying I was human because either my suspicions were in all the wrong places, or they were playing mind tricks with me to second guess on how I'm perceiving everyone. Though, I have no doubt they also meant for the town to suspect me since both wolves said that I was town.

Let me link some posts:

http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/vbz/showpost.php?p=4174860&postcount=655

http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/vbz/showpost.php?p=4174868&postcount=658

http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/vbz/showpost.php?p=4174873&postcount=662

I honestly was baffled on not catching that "blue" claim or whatever the hell it was that Xiz pointed out. Of course, you could say I planned it with my wolf partners since a Night phase did past, but I assure you, this isn't the case at all.

[DaBackpack]

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The "anyone who thinks Charu is a wolf is an idiot" remark struck me as weird because I don't think anybody actually targeted Charu at that time besides Gradiant. It was uncalled for.

An alternate explanation for Xiz's behavior is that he intended to use that to cover his ass in the case Charu came up green in a lynch/kill... but Xiz killed himself before that could happen so we can't know. And plus it's odd he focused so heavily on Charu specifically and not someone else.

At the same time, in Xiz's case, I have to wonder if establishing so strong a connection with a fellow wolf-mate would be good in the long run. He would have had to understand that either one of them would die and that the other would be put under suspicion for those comments. Then again, he made some fucked up plays like relying on those goddamn "perfect d0 reads" which really he probably shouldn't have done as a wolf. idk.

[DaBackpack]

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hm... well...

First, if plop is anti-town, I'm inclined to think of him as a wolf and not the SK. (Based on the sunfan post I quoted earlier, about how he'd rather lynch me instead of plop, I see that as a cover for plop).
Wolf and SK have no allegiance to each other, so it's not like anybody's trying to cover for anyone.

I find it strange that Plop went and targeted somebody that wasn't under suspicion at all. An anti-town would probably try to provide more reasoning supporting a more popular lynch, like blind or me for example, if he wanted to blend in. So in this regard, he's acting town.

But at the same time, I'm conflicted because it's possible that a wolf-Plop suspects Charu as the SK and wants absolute safety for the upcoming nights and wants a lynch instead of waiting for a night kill.

I would like others to weigh in on this since I'm not sure what to make of it

[YoshL]

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dostbankpank - charmandu
ploperdoperlis - dostbankpank
blindraeper - zellienyan
charmandu - ploperdoperlis

whee

[DaBackpack]

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Haha, you know, I have to say that this current setup is pretty nice for the town. The anti-town are pretty much at a battle of wits right now, so I'm wondering if those interactions are somethign we can capitalize on. i.e. the anti-town are seriously looking for each other right now.

Like, to illustrate an example,

Yeah, read this post

http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/vbz/showthread.php?p=4173815#post4173815

And keep going. I said I wanted to keep them around midpoint, V turned out human, and backpack has remained unchecked, so we need to deal with this now.

I don't care if it's a joke, this is something I strongly believe is a mean to mask oneself of a role by joking saying something about it.

Is this the cry of a threatened wolf?

[DaBackpack]

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It makes Charu's scattered, repeated ramblings about the SK make more sense now. He wants us to target the SK because he's the biggest threat against the mafia right now.

charu

[DaBackpack]

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maybe i'm getting ahead of myself, but if Charu comes up anti-town, I'd wager plop is the other anti-town

We're at the point where every person in this game is seriously trying to achieve a lynch that directly benefits their cause. Sound reasoning is not enough to clear anybody anymore.

You need to analyze the reason that every person voted who.

Plop "randomly" brought up Charu, and I'm guessing it's because he's threatened by the other anti-town.

thoughts?

[DaBackpack]

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last one I promise:

Any feedback against any claim is a genuine thought, I think. Wolf is targeting one person, SK is targeting one person, and then there's town. We just need to separate the motive behind the votes from the reasoning.

[Charu]

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So, what happens when I'm not anti-town then? Kind of left that part out.

[Silvuh]

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So about the blue bait thing (a lot of the post-links are ones Charu already quoted):

Xiz made the comment about Gradiant "saving a blue there" at 11:02 (639). Let's see what happens before Charu responds to it ... Xiz proclaim's Charu's townness again, cedo's lost but thinks we can lynch a wolf, psycho and Dab talk about Xel, Xiz blankvotes on psycho, psycho asks him to give reasoning, and then at 1:28, Charu makes his post (655) in response @Xiz639.

Cedo and Dab are still here, so maybe they'd like to comment on if they had read @Xiz639, understood what he was saying (or didn't), and just didn't feel like it was worth commenting on before Charu brought it up? And then psycho claimed, and no one else zeroed in on that remark from Xiz.

I don't know who else was in the thread at the time, but knowing what everyone was thinking between 11:02 and 1:28 that day will help us figure out if Charu's interaction with Xiz was staged or not.

When I read @Xiz639, I had no idea what he was talking about, because I didn't think of Xiz's "Favorite color?" question (211) had anything to do with the game. I didn't look twice at Gradiant saying "blue or green" (215), because those are two of my favorite colors, too. But Xiz's other questions were game-related, so, yeah, I can see now that I was just naive. It wasn't until Charu's post 662 that I was like, "Wait, he wasn't just answering his favorite color?"

So uh. During N1, the wolves talked about who to target, and we can assume Xiz brought up his bait to them. Because sunfan was absent during D2, it wouldn't surprise me if the wolves decided that, after Xiz brings up the bait, that one should totally ignore it and the other should question it. By keeping wolves on two sides of an issue, there's no one pool we can choose from to find the rest of the wolves.

Of course, you could say I planned it with my wolf partners since a Night phase did past, but I assure you, this isn't the case at all.

Because just saying you assure us that it isn't the case isn't very assuring.

they were playing mind tricks with me to second guess on how I'm perceiving everyone.

The only way you can say this now would be if you knew at the time that the wolves were the ones calling you human. If you don't know the role of someone, you wouldn't assume they're playing mind tricks on you by calling you human, because there are more humans who could be doing so than wolves.

Though, I have no doubt they also meant for the town to suspect me since both wolves said that I was town.

Did they plan for you to be the last wolf alive, too?