TWG XCVII: The Flame War (Real Version)

[dAnceguy117]

Re: TWG XCVII: The Flame War (Real Version)

Here's the plan: towns go to one of these four houses, grocery store, bar, school, shack.

Fireman go hide, cops do cop stuff.

we can't do something like this if not everyone is on board. we've only heard from like 2 people.

also I decided I don't like this plan anymore. if Police enter one of those buildings, they run a high risk of dying. if Police don't enter those buildings, they can't seer anyone.

[cedolad]

Re: TWG XCVII: The Flame War (Real Version)

well we don't necessarily need a seering to happen night one if one of those houses burn down. We'll know they were a townie. That's just as good as a seering and plus we're keeping the specials safe night 1.

if no one else is on board then don't go to the houses I pointed out.

[dAnceguy117]

Re: TWG XCVII: The Flame War (Real Version)

here's the best strategy I can think of

One building is announced publicly, and the Fireman is ordered to enter that building. Townsfolk and Police choose randomly between the remaining buildings.

pros:
+ Fireman stays safe
+ Police have a reasonable chance to seer Townsfolk
+ Townsfolk and Police can all spread out

cons:
none lol



This strategy completely relies on compliance from the Fireman and from everyone else. If we want to incorporate this strategy, we should wait until Night 2 so we can be sure we are all on board.

Could y'all vote this idea up/down please? Justify your answer.

[Tps222]

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we can't do something like this if not everyone is on board. we've only heard from like 2 people.

also I decided I don't like this plan anymore. if Police enter one of those buildings, they run a high risk of dying. if Police don't enter those buildings, they can't seer anyone.

Exactly. One thing we have to be vigilant about is who's interests are being served by controlling and directing housing information. If we don't play the numbers right, we'll be losing multiple people a night with zero seer information coming from it.

I'm looking more towards this rule"

Townsfolk x6 - Each night, each townsfolk will choose any house to enter and stay over at. If the house burns down, then half of the humans (rounded down) will die.

If we assign 3 people to each house, randomly, and mix it up each night, the worst that can happen is that only 1 person dies. (3 divided by half is 1.5, rounded down to 1). This maximizes our mobility while marginalizing our vulnerability. It also protects fireman and police officers, as long as they only have 3 people total in their respective houses.

Does anyone see any flaws in this proposed idea?

[Krauthammer]

Re: TWG XCVII: The Flame War (Real Version)

If we assign 3 people to each house, randomly, and mix it up each night, the worst that can happen is that only 1 person dies. (3 divided by half is 1.5, rounded down to 1).

I'm not sure, but I think it could be rounded to 2.

The host will have to clarify, of course.

[j-rodd123]

Re: TWG XCVII: The Flame War (Real Version)

here's the best strategy I can think of

One building is announced publicly, and the Fireman is ordered to enter that building. Townsfolk and Police choose randomly between the remaining buildings.

pros:
+ Fireman stays safe
+ Police have a reasonable chance to seer Townsfolk
+ Townsfolk and Police can all spread out

cons:
none lol



This strategy completely relies on compliance from the Fireman and from everyone else. If we want to incorporate this strategy, we should wait until Night 2 so we can be sure we are all on board.

Could y'all vote this idea up/down please? Justify your answer.

it seems decent, but if the fireman comes out they will likely be roleblocked diminishing any protection so they certainly will not "stay safe"

[Viccica]

Re: TWG XCVII: The Flame War (Real Version)

It's just rounded up, in the instance of one fireman remaining I would assume.

[YoshL]

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I'm not sure, but I think it could be rounded to 2.

The host will have to clarify, of course.

3 civilians would make 1.5 rounded down to 1

[Viccica]

Re: TWG XCVII: The Flame War (Real Version)

Fireman doesn't come out in that instance, is just universally designated a building.

[Viccica]

Re: TWG XCVII: The Flame War (Real Version)

^Not fireman in my previous post, it's policeman rounded up.

[j-rodd123]

Re: TWG XCVII: The Flame War (Real Version)

Fireman doesn't come out in that instance, is just universally designated a building.

ohhhhh of course my bad, yeah great idea, only con that comes to mind is the really unlucky situation where police enter a building with no1 in it

[Viccica]

Re: TWG XCVII: The Flame War (Real Version)

Then again that kind of eliminates the usefulness of the fireman, doesn't it? It lets the arsonists know which building to avoid completely.

[dAnceguy117]

Re: TWG XCVII: The Flame War (Real Version)

If we assign 3 people to each house, randomly, and mix it up each night, the worst that can happen is that only 1 person dies. (3 divided by half is 1.5, rounded down to 1). This maximizes our mobility while marginalizing our vulnerability. It also protects fireman and police officers, as long as they only have 3 people total in their respective houses.

Does anyone see any flaws in this proposed idea?

yup. we would have to assign all 12 players to buildings, with 3 people in each building. the Arsonists would have slightly better than a (1 - (3/4 * 3/4)) = 44% chance to hit either the Fireman or one of the Police. yikes.

maybe I'm misunderstanding. how do you suppose the Fireman and Police would be protected?

[dAnceguy117]

Re: TWG XCVII: The Flame War (Real Version)

still trying to poke holes in the "put Fireman in a building" idea

ohhhhh of course my bad, yeah great idea, only con that comes to mind is the really unlucky situation where police enter a building with no1 in it

truth. I think we basically run that risk no matter what.

Then again that kind of eliminates the usefulness of the fireman, doesn't it? It lets the arsonists know which building to avoid completely.

you're right about the Arsonists knowing which building to avoid. however, I think this tactic would make the Fireman more useful.

with this strategy, the Fireman would stay alive. if the Fireman were in a building with any number of Townsfolk (and without Police), and if that building were torched, the Fireman would die. in nearly all early-game scenarios of this sort, the Fireman would have saved only one townie.

other than sacrificing to save Townsfolk, the Fireman power only activates when alone in a building that gets burned. the odds of this scenario occurring via random selection are pretty low. (haven't crunched the numbers lol.)

[Zoshi]

Re: TWG XCVII: The Flame War (Real Version)

How about we just play the game as we see it.