TWG XLl: IN SOVIET RUSSIA, WOLF LYNCHES YOU!

[nforcer06164]

Re: TWG XLl: IN SOVIET RUSSIA, WOLF LYNCHES YOU!

@afro: Wow, I completely missed that. Still, that seer would have to have one or two humans to pass info on to in case of getting killed. Oh, and I think it's best to kill anybody seered red anyway; it's kind of the inverse of the master wolf seered green. We can't be sure, but sometimes it just has to be done.

[Afrobean]

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oh i see, nforcer

I dunno... it's better than anything I could come up with to do it, even if it sacrifices two seer'd humans to do so. And you KNOW that the wolves will kill the two humans who come out. Yeah... the wolves might go for blue hunting early on, but knowing that the two seer'd greens from day 1 won't get lynched, they'll be wolfed.

Also, what's this about blue miller? Their seer report comes back the same as real wolves, and red millers to the human seer? That makes lynching seer'd reds even more stupid...

I say we go for humans and pretty much disregard it when they come back red. Of course record the information and tell the alliance members, but don't go out and lynch them JUST for being seer'd as "not human".

[Afrobean]

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you guys post too much... I was expecting double post rofl

[Omeganitros]

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nforcer06164: Hey, I gotta get goin'....

OmegaNoxim: k

nforcer06164: But, always good talking to ya.

OmegaNoxim: Yah

nforcer06164: Oh, and you're in TWG... best get in the thread.

nforcer06164: We have three pages already

nforcer06164: and night hasn't ended.

nforcer06164: =P

nforcer06164: See ya

OmegaNoxim: WHAT



**** **** **** **** **** **** ****

Okay, gimmie a second to read the thread. God, it totally slipped my mind.

[Afrobean]

Re: TWG XLl: IN SOVIET RUSSIA, WOLF LYNCHES YOU!

ok to elaborate on what I've said, I'll say this:

I advocate seers staying behind things. Themselves and their seer'd greens may push for the lynch of players they believe to be red, but simply being seer'd as red might not be enough justification for them to decide to lynch. Obviously if a player looks pretty red already and they're seer'd and it comes back red, then yeah... but if a player looks green, and their report comes back red, I would suggest holding off at first. Think of it the same way you would for a lynching of a player seer'd as green in a game with MW: that is to say, don't disregard the idea of them being a wolf, but if you do want to lynch them, do it later.

[Afrobean]

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ok, so I keep thinking of things:

Basically a lot of you guys are pushing for a "find reds and kill them" strategy. This is not very good with two red millers and someone mentioned that blue millers come back as "not human" as well. That's like 7 people coming back red and only 3 of them are wolves. Maybe I'm misunderstanding something, but still with two red millers, that's only a 3/5 chance of lynching a seer'd red.

I think the best strategy is to play as normal. Try to lynch wolves during the day using logic. The alliances' function would be to:

#1: Seer humans and build and grow to gain power for their cause.
#2: Overlap with the other seer's alliance.

Lynching seer'd reds shouldn't be a part of what the alliance needs to do. I think they should play it more as a set of masons that gets new members every night. By the end of the game, there should be a ****ton of seer'd greens and after that you just lynch anything that hasn't been seer'd green.

[DiscoBobbyPARANOiA]

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'AHHHHHHHHH!!'

*THUD*

'WHAT WAS THAT?!?!' yelled JurseyRider734 as loud as possible.

'It sounded like a yell coming from the direction of talisman's room,' replied iggymatrixcounter, still half asleep.

'We shuld go chek it out, rite?' xObserveRx chimed in, from across the hall.

Upon arriving at talisman's room, a gruesome sight was beheld by everyone.

//cue robot voice
THIRTY MINUTES LATER.

Welcome to mission briefing, soldiers.

I know how early it is, but..' started general nija.

'It's 2:36 sir!' shouted Afrobean.

'I know how early it is, but there is a serious problem. Standing in this very room, hell, maybe even standing beside you, we have four intruders. UNFORTUNATELY IT'S THE SECOND DAY HERE AND WE DON'T KNOW EACH OTHER WELL ENOUGH TO JUST PICK OUT THE INTRUDERS. They are believed to be Russian spies, sent here to destroy our bunker. Lucky for me, and bad for you, I'm about to leave. If you fagots can't figure out who the spies are, we're going to have to blow up the entire facility. Good luck. Lol.'

With that the general left.

'I played a game on the internet like this one time...' said Omeganitros, 'It was called 'The Werewolf Game.''

'YEAH WHERE THEY LYNCH SOMEONE EVERY DAY,' said JurseyRider734, still yelling.

'We'd better start...' Stoic RoivaS finished.

TALISMAN IS DEAD.

IT IS NOW DAY ONE.

DAY ONE ENDS AT MIDNIGHT SATURDAY

Players remaining: (Player Name/AIM)

Kilgamayan/bjstrattonIM
Afrobean/afrobean16
Stoic RoivaS/StoicRoivaS
Rioting/xRIOTINGx
Tokzic/InfernoBlueFlame
FoJaR/This Is FoJaR
iggymatrixcounter/Iggy911Mc
roundbox/tehroundbox
Shashakiro/Shashakiro
Omega Nitros/OmegaNoxim
Wilkin/Wilkini Evili
JurseyRider734/im jurs
xObserveRx/xTried N Truex
nforcer06164/nforcer06164
blahblah18/mastr414

That is all.

ps if you douchebags don't read the story tell me and I'll refrain from writing it.

[StoicRoivaS]

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@afro:

Blue Miller - Meat. But with a twist. The Blue Miller comes back as HUMAN to the seer, and BLUE to the Wolf Seer.

Odds aren't that bad. 2 red millers and 4 wolves, 33% of accidentally killing a red, 66% chance hitting a wolf. I'm not sure which I like better but I still don't think the wolves would go for public greens. Why waste a kill on a known non-blue? Yeah it's a confirmed out of the way, but in a two seer game I'd rather take my chances blue hunting. That's my guess anyways.

[xObserveRx]

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Just outta curiosity (and laziness), wasn't the night supposed to end at 12am? or do you just end nights when you get all required PMs?

[DiscoBobbyPARANOiA]

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I ended the night early because... I didn't feel like waiting.

If anyone has any objections to an hour early, let me know and I'll try to make it up to you.

[talisman]

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helen keller would have seen that coming.

[Omeganitros]

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No way, dude. Keep the story, it's awesome.

[nforcer06164]

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iggymatrixcounter. I don't think I need an explanation.

So, are we moving ahead with my plan, or not? If we can reach a general consensus, we can get progressing right away.

[Tokzic]

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Okay, so one thing I should start the day out with in case you didn't read the convo is:

DO NOT COME OUT AS A SEERED GREEN/BLUE YET.

If we end up going with nforcer's strategy, the red seer will potentially be waiting to see if we did not nab two greens. If both of our seers did not see greens, then the red seer (regardless of what they saw) could potentially dip their nose in and say "Hi, I seered you, you're a blue/green, sorry for the dlay in contact," and suddenly be a part of the alliance. All they'd have to do is wait to make sure we didn't get enough for our plan to work and we wouldn't know the difference.

To prevent this, like I said, we should organize a time for all seereds to come out at once. This will prevent the red seer from dawdling and seeing if he can come out to his seered without risk to identity.

AGRE/DISAGRE?

[iggymatrixcounter]

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I say no. I gave you your "counterpoints" and your plan only has a 20-30% chance of working today. The likely senario strings a confirmed human out to dry.

Having the seers work hiddenly has just as many benefits as your plan does except the the seer alliances have to be more discreet in their lynching methods. And 3 days later there may be an overlap and then the alliances will be brought together without anyone being needlessly sacrifaced.

Besides, I'm surprised that you're advocating a human alliance anyways nforcer, you usually want the game to be played through the people and not an alliance where everything is decided for you.