TWG CLVI: The Grand TWGabout - GAME THREAD

[_Zenith_]

Re: TWG CLVI: The Grand TWGabout - GAME THREAD

what caused the shift then

Noticing a consistent pattern with what he's done all game. Pocketing you + sunfan is consistent in the idea he actively attempts to do so. I tend to think town shifts more on the fly than a wolf that uses the best course of actions and if they have solitude with being townread for example, they'd be more keen to keep using what works for them, ergo town players are more dynamic in changing than what I'd imagine a wolf to be.

He's finally reset and redid his reads, which his early reads from the first two phases barely changed and seemingly some of them were influenced by others; I definitely remember at least two of his reads being heavily based from some other players read on the same person from earlier. I haven't read most of his reads except a skim of the alignments he has on everyone, so maybe there's something in there.

[thesunfan]

Re: TWG CLVI: The Grand TWGabout - GAME THREAD

the most frustrating part of this is at the end of the day if we lose I'm the scapegoat

if we win I still held everyone back

Mashi brought this post to my attention, its never one person's fault in a loss, and never one person winning the game by themself (this is always excepting third party roles, of course).

You're fine, DBP.

[thesunfan]

Re: TWG CLVI: The Grand TWGabout - GAME THREAD

My alibi is rock solid, friends. There was, at the point in the game when Gradiant died, no wolf roles that can interfere with his check other than the roleblocker, and the only role that can falsify it is the Bus Driver, which was dead.

I know this for a fact. If you have doubts, I suggest you do the one thing that will clear those doubts.

[inDheart]

Re: TWG CLVI: The Grand TWGabout - GAME THREAD

of those 4, only 1 more effects the sunfan thing -
Matt Engarde - The Deceiver: Refreshing like a spring breeze. At least, that's what you want everyone to think about you. You are a master wolf until you make the conviction (night kill).

which is very possible actually - totally take back the thing about re-examining sunfan, especially with his insistance on being "mechanically" lock clear

oh jeez game mechanics

i think technically miles w/ one lynch success is possible too

i wanna look at one post by sunfan then:

part of it is what happened to me last night, but I'm in a no-bullshit mood regarding roles

"what happened to" sunfan comes up before gradiant claimed athena, yet sunfan is inclined to believe tokzic's claim and unvotes

gregory can't act on sunfan at night, so the "what happened" would either have to come from the true PR or the last wolf role. sunfan seems to think tokz is the true PR here though, so that discounts that possibility

franziska or miles (longer shot since he needs 2 successes) can roleblock sunfan, but sunfan is a VT in the world of this possibility. do you get told that you're roleblocked at night even if you have no night action?

[thesunfan]

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do you get told that you're roleblocked at night even if you have no night action?

I do not know for sure, but I highly doubt you get told you were roleblocked if you didn't perform an action

[inDheart]

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idk, but if sunfan were Miles, it would require Charu to have been his first target, and based on sunfan's wanted lynch targets that Phase, I highly doubt that's the case.

of course i see this now after posting that

don't read thread backwards, folks

[inDheart]

Re: TWG CLVI: The Grand TWGabout - GAME THREAD

(That said, insta'ing Tokzic looks bad no matter what, although I am much more interested in your response to me then his. Compared to the grand showing I gave him, you only got mentioned yet still seemed like you wanted to be defensive about it. Expected from YoshL, not expected from you. I was carious to see if Mashi would say anything but it doesn't look like he will.)

lol i was kind of hoping you'd actually give the more in-depth reading treatment to the three you were less sure about than the two you feel strongly about

it's needle in a haystack time and we all really ought to read closer especially at our nulls, and try to work together

i responded to you because you wanted to reason about the insta and you said i didn't add a whole lot to the discussion when i voted - just wanted to confirm my motivation is all

[YoshL]

Re: TWG CLVI: The Grand TWGabout - GAME THREAD

My alibi is rock solid, friends. There was, at the point in the game when Gradiant died, no wolf roles that can interfere with his check other than the roleblocker, and the only role that can falsify it is the Bus Driver, which was dead.

I know this for a fact. If you have doubts, I suggest you do the one thing that will clear those doubts.

Matt Enguarde

[YoshL]

Re: TWG CLVI: The Grand TWGabout - GAME THREAD

regardless of that, i don't think sunfan is the last scum here. I'm more saying that you're like, semantically wrong when it comes to being 100% mechanically locked clear despite what you're saying, but that doesn't really effect what i think.

[inDheart]

Re: TWG CLVI: The Grand TWGabout - GAME THREAD

Besides making reads and letting thread know, that's all inDheart is do is pocket the shit out of people.

i'm wearing cargo shorts today because i just like pockets that much

i like how only one person is allowed to tell you that your post is shit though and everyone after that is pocketing

unless you wanna call mashi on it too

[inDheart]

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I do not know for sure, but I highly doubt you get told you were roleblocked if you didn't perform an action

obviously you respond with the answer that conveniently weasels you out of that scenario

[inDheart]

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obviously you respond with the answer that conveniently weasels you out of that scenario

i'm just more in awe that your post happened, really, but a little worried that this was the part of that you actually wanted to answer

[thesunfan]

Re: TWG CLVI: The Grand TWGabout - GAME THREAD

obviously you respond with the answer that conveniently weasels you out of that scenario

this is literally a waste of time

do the thing that will erase all doubts (I can't tell you to do it directly)

I wouldn't be telling you to do this if it could give info that would hurt my standing if I was a wolf

[thesunfan]

Re: TWG CLVI: The Grand TWGabout - GAME THREAD

there are two ways that Athena's results can be manipulated

roleblocking

or bus driving

godfather status does not interfere with Athena's checks

I know this for a fact, and you can know it too!

[YoshL]

Re: TWG CLVI: The Grand TWGabout - GAME THREAD

there are two ways that Athena's results can be manipulated

roleblocking

or bus driving

godfather status does not interfere with Athena's checks

I know this for a fact, and you can know it too!

i fucking blame work making me distracted from reading setup properly fuck fuck fuck