TWG CV: Christmas in the clink

[thesunfan]

Re: TWG CV: Christmas in the clink

aite, perfect Kevin, you pass. Answering that question with a solid, respectable answer would've essentially told me that you were a wolf.

Placing my vote on riot, I feel like he's building an excuse as to why he does anything that would appear suspicious, trying to say "oh, I'm not really interested." He also shitposted a lot during the game that he was a wolf, especially early on.

[thesunfan]

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that list is complete shit, Danceguy.

[Charu]

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I know, he doesn't even list himself. Gosh darn it.

[dAnceguy117]

Re: TWG CV: Christmas in the clink

tell me that in postgame after the town sheeps me to victoryyyyyyy

[Riotpolice]

Re: TWG CV: Christmas in the clink

Well Charu, I guess we suck at this game according to dance...

[Riotpolice]

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Well Charu, I guess we suck at this game according to dance...

(Honorable Mention)

[Charu]

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I may be sucking at this game, but at least I have chicken.

[Riotpolice]

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At least I have government cheese.

[Brilliant Dynamite Neon]

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Since we're all posting our dilemmas, I betrayed Tokzic (to avoid giving him a power if he happened to be a wolf) and got nothing, so he must have betrayed me back.

Since betrayal is mathematically the superior option, though, I'm not exactly sure knowing who trusted/betrayed whom really helps.

It gives some remote form of accountability. If something happens with a major power that clearly isn't beneficial to humans, such as the vigi last night, we have a verified pool of possible culprits in the betrayers. Keep in mind that this doesn't mean the betrayers are wolves necessarily. It's more like "if the lynch candidates today come down to trusters and betrayers, we are more likely to hit a wolf if we go with the betrayers." And yes, people are going to lie. If not on this day, then another day. That's where normal wolf-hunting comes in. The dilemmas are just another factor in the equation that needs to be considered.

(PEdit: See, you're starting to get it on P3)

Plus, betrayal is only "mathematically superior" if at least some humans decide to trust. That's the only way major powers will flow into the game. A betrayal for a betrayal leaves the whole game vanilla - and thus pretty stacked in favor of the wolves. I worked a bit with FoJaR and initially recommended that he run the game with a lower wolf/human ratio than usual, somewhere in between a normal game and a vanilla/mountainous game. However, he changed it back at the last second, and I think I see why. I don't think he wants universal betrayal to be a viable tactic. I think he wants humans to have to take the risk of trusting their partner at some point.

So my advice to everyone playing this game:
Wolf-hunt as normal. No, scratch that. Put your thinking caps on and wolf-hunt to the extreme! Be active, be skeptical, generate as much content as you can (Lurking and fluffposting should be punished more than normal IMO.) Look critically at things and get reads. Inform your twilight decisions with those reads as much as you can. Of course, if you think somebody is a wolf, you need to 100% betray that person, since it will surely deny them any hope for a power. But if you are confident that someone is human, put your trust in them.

Finally, here's a dump of the info so far.

Pairing Info So Far (single betrayers in purple, unaccounted in red)
BDN/Vendetta (trust, nothing / ???)
KgZ/Riotpolice (trust, nothing / ???)
Charu/Psychoangel (mutual betrayal)
jrodd/TPS (trust, nothing / ???)
Gradiant/Manti (trust, nothing / betrayal, claim: Kamikaze)
thesunfan/YMIA (trust, nothing / betrayal, claim: Bodyguard)
danceguy
mellon
lito
RSD
Tokzic
Guest

Possible Powers:
Kamikaze (Major)
Vigilante Kill (Major)
Roleblock/Jail (Most likely Major?)
Masonize/Neighborize (Unknown)

[j-rodd123]

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READS LIST, these are golden I promise



totes a human!!!
BDN
KgZ
Manti
Riot

idk pretty random!!!
V
raeko
lito
runescape
sunfan
Tokzic
YMIA
Guest

def a wolf, easy lynch for victory!!!
jrodd
psychoangel
Gradiant

is bad at this game!!!
Charu
(honorable mention to Riotpolice)

looks good to me

[j-rodd123]

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riotpolice - slight villa lean, pretty much nothing don't care to engage with atm

charu - still undecided, asking some questions that feel forced, not the biggest fan. like he's trying really hard to interrogate when hes completely misinterpreting the point of peoples posts. ill colour you in the same colour your name is on the forums

manti- weird instinct human lean, pretty meh, the limest of greens

BDN- doing work, haven't had a feel for the genuineness of it, but he can stick around for now

danceguy- still either way, no lean. do something that makes me lean villa or ill cut u

sunfan- meh, closeish to charu

im tired

[Guest15937]

Re: TWG CV: Christmas in the clink

READS LIST, these are golden I promise



totes a human!!!
BDN
KgZ
Manti
Riot

idk pretty random!!!
V
raeko
lito
runescape
sunfan
Tokzic
YMIA
Guest

def a wolf, easy lynch for victory!!!
jrodd
psychoangel
Gradiant

is bad at this game!!!
Charu
(honorable mention to Riotpolice)

Please explain this, I see absolutely no rhyme or reason. Particularly the "100% human" and "100% wolf" people.

[Brilliant Dynamite Neon]

Re: TWG CV: Christmas in the clink

OKay guys I kinda had a long day and I have to wake at about 5:30 in the morning so I just wanna chill in these few hours I have left. Gonna just give some rough reads I have.

Four people stick out to me at this point, in no particular order; Manti (Charu raises a good point @35), Gradiant (by association), KgZ (don't like how he jumped on Charu after that post with no explanation, especially since this is pretty baseline play for the Snivy), and Riot (dodging the dilemma question with defeatist lynch speculation and jokes that are overused at this point. Sorry bud.)

Gonna throw my first vote on Manti since he's a major power holder.

Pretty interesting start to the game, my fine fellows. I look forward to see how it'll develop. See y'all tomorrow~

[Riotpolice]

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Alright, I'll start playing. Enough riotshitposting about his cheese and whatnot.

I think the key to this game is trust. If everyone betrays, then we have a whole bunch of people with macho power who can't trust each other. However, trust each other, and you earn trust plus you get a minor power, but trusting is the bigger object that you are after. I see trust being the big issue this game, and I am not looking for power according to BDN's post, and neither is KgZ.
I am just looking for trust~

[Charu]

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charu - still undecided, asking some questions that feel forced, not the biggest fan. like he's trying really hard to interrogate when hes completely misinterpreting the point of peoples posts. ill colour you in the same colour your name is on the forums

The only person I think I misinterpreted was Dark's post about killing both him and Gradiant (as I thought that's what he meant).

Also, questioning is all I can do. I can start asking what people's shoe sizes are if you prefer!

Alright, I'll start playing. Enough riotshitposting about his cheese and whatnot.

I think the key to this game is trust. If everyone betrays, then we have a whole bunch of people with macho power who can't trust each other. However, trust each other, and you earn trust plus you get a minor power, but trusting is the bigger object that you are after. I see trust being the big issue this game, and I am not looking for power according to BDN's post, and neither is KgZ.
I am just looking for trust~

That's pretty much TWG in general though (minus the getting power part of course), and why are you speaking on behalf of KgZ?