TWG XIX: Atomic Apocalypse: It just keeps going and going...

[dAnceguy117]

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I've said it (and been right) in the past... someone who says "oh, that was a good kill... sh*t" is a wolf. Not EVERYONE... but at least 1 of them. I did it in at least 1 if not 2 or all 3 games when I was a wolf.

I don't think that's quite as much evidence as it used to be. After it being brought up (mostly by you) so often, most people should have (or at least I have) made a mental note not to do that if they're a wolf.

And yeah, what's with the random voting? That is going to get us nowhere. It's like forfeiting day 1. Imagine what would happen if we all did that!

I'm gonna go look at previous games and see if LD/Omega/Afro/Eric normally do that.

[talisman]

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guys, if you're going to vote early, at least try to put a little punch behind it and then gauge the reaction of others who might A) bandwagon on to the vote or B) defend against the vote. Random voting is useless, unless you think you won't be here.

In other news, I doubt kilga and omega are wolves together, because random voting this early is sketchy enough--doing so right after one another compounds the sketchiness. Based on what accusations we have so far it would seem that tps isn't with afro or eric, but his accusations weren't strong enough to escape the margin of error, and it would seem that qreepy isn't with tps, although his whole "thunder" post could be (if he and tps were both wolves) designed to be overly strong so as to clearly distance him from tps. Tass' stated agreement with tps would also suggest that they aren't wolf partners, as he wouldn't want to make any connection between himself and a fellow wolf, but with tass you never know... IF he were a wolf I'd expect some double reverse psychology from him.

[Tasselfoot]

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I agree with you dAnce... thought about it, but as it hurts my case, I didn't mention it. I'd still lay odds that I'm right.

Then again, if you're giving me LD and Omega in the field, I'm getting 4/15, which is almost 1/3, which would be random odds of 1 wolf. So, it isn't that big of a statement... I was more along the lines that Eric or Afro would be a wolf based upon that initial statement. Moreso Eric, IMO... not sure if he's ever been a wolf before, but I know back in TWG 1 (and unlike most, he played in TWG 1, 2, and 3 then didn't play again until 11 and 12, then not again until 17 or 18) he was unbelievably easy to peg as a blue in 1 post... clearly he's evolved since then, but he more than most might not be wary about the day 1 stupid comment about the night 1 kill.

[Tasselfoot]

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Talisman: only double? hell, next time I'm a wolf I'm going so deep in psychology I'll run into neurology. 6, 7, 10 times I'll double back. I'll confuse myself.

Then again... no need to bring that up yet.

[dAnceguy117]

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The thing about that is, at heart, as soon as you get past double, you're back to normal. As much as you can go on and on about it, it's still just two possibilities alternating.

Then again, that's completely irrelevant, hahah. What I posted to say was that LD, Omega, Afro, and Eric ALL did it IN A ROW last game. Afro was a wolf, of course, but still. I don't think it's anything out of the norm for them, I'm afraid. Odds are at least one of them is a wolf anyway, hah.

[Afrobean]

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I always comment about the first kill. Duh it's only logical. That's all we have to talk about until Tps does something suspicious or people random vote.

Also, I reccomend that the seer seers Tass if they haven't already. I know that Tass could easily get Eric and me lynched on such weak evidence, and I don't think he's a stupid enough human that he'd try to lynch people on such minimal evidence. Also, given that fake usernames are allowed to PM, I reccomend that the seer PMs people with the results of any seerings that come back wolf.

[ImEric12]

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Tass: I've been a wolf.. twice I believe. Once I got lynched early, another time I survived to the very end of the game, but lost to the other wolf team (that was Cypher's game)

I usually try to get a comment in pretty quick, because I remember a few games ago, people would really start to rouse pointless suspicion towards people who hadn't said almost anything day one.

I'm also reminded of last game where, although he turned out to be right, TPS just made all these random accusations out of nowhere.

[QreepyBORIS]

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Checking the IP of the user(s) who blind PMed you is illegal, right?

[vashthestampede0987]

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Seeing as roopert hasn't really been posting I'll single him out for a random vote.

[Afrobean]

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Reguarding Tps's accusations last game: The way I see it, there are three types of wolf accusations.

#1: Absolutely no evidence. Often correct.
#2: Minimal evidence. Most often wrong.
#3: Strong evidence. Things like seer saying they seer'd them. Always correct unless it's a fake seer or something.

It's sad that it's always a bad idea to lynch someone on absolutely no evidence, though, as those are usually correct.

Checking the IP of the user(s) who blind PMed you is illegal, right?

Yes. Any use of mod powers to gain an upperhand in this game is cheating.

[lightdarkness]

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Checking the IP of the user(s) who blind PMed you is illegal, right?

Mods can't see the IP's of who sends the PM's, so if you're thinking thats what one of the mods would do, they can't

With that being said, I got a PM from the seer saying DanceGuy is a wolf, so uhh, yea.

[Afrobean]

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Post the PM.

[lightdarkness]

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From: SinSinSalibin
To: lightdarkness
Posted: Aug 18, 2005 - 01:26 PM
Subject: TWG Quote message
I feel that it is a good idea to come out as the seer now, mainly because I seer'd a wolf, Danceguy. I'm sorry that I can't reveal my real name, for fear of another wolf getting this, as I am sending it to every player. I really hope you trust me on this. Thank you for your understanding in the matter, and any questions you have, PM me.

[Tps222]

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Yea, I got it too, no, it wasn't my doing this time. Though, if it isn't legit, even though I think it may be, it was done perfectly by the wolves. Notice how they use LD's seer'd in it, I doubt LD would make the same slip-up again. Also, it would frame LD and I, past PM users.

I'm not saying it isn't legit, I am just looking at all sides of this. I want to see if everyone got this first, as the PM says, and Danceguy's reaction.

[Afrobean]

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Yea I got one too. I just didn't see it at the time I posted.