TWG XXXI: A Blast From The Past

[ddrdanc3r55]

Re: TWG XXXI: A Blast From The Past

Oh, and a prime exaple of what I'm talking about. When I said "anybody", I meant somebody.

[iggymatrixcounter]

Re: TWG XXXI: A Blast From The Past

I don't know, might not be such a bad idea to have two leaders. Although both knowing the other specials (guardian/seer) at the same time might be a bit dangerous. Perhaps it could be kefit at first and then iggy? Iggy (presumably) won't get wolfed. Is stuff still up in the air about whether or not kefit/wilkin switched? I still find that rather unlikely, but it's probably worth settling.

I don't care, I really don't see the purpose of having us switch leaders. We already wasted the day to get kefit his position, so I'm more inclined to just sit back and find wolves.

There's always that possibility that kefit and wilkin were/are switched RR's though. I figure someone had to contact kefit last night to set up the seer and guardian, so even if kefit is judas, there's probably little to nothing we can do about it now.

Just gotta find those wolves...

I did some numbers and found that there are 14 players left (notice it's an even amount so all of you with phantoms probably won't be wolfed, but will probably be lynched sometime or another.)

Which means we have four days left to get a wolf. Something I didn't consider since if we went for EB or some other wolf choice, we would only have 3 (I think that's right). Course lynching people we know aren't wolves doesn't bring us any closer to a victory but the wasted day got us another day anyways. (That was something that someone posted and I missed it the first time.)

As it stands right now there are 11 public unknowns. Alliance probably has 8 unknowns. (I'm going with the theory that hans was already seered so that cuts it down one person.) Should be an easy win in four days.

I know, I'm so obvious. XD

[Kefit]

Re: TWG XXXI: A Blast From The Past

Just for the record, no one has contacted me about forming an alliance.

Also, consider if Judas and Saulus did switch roles - that is, that I am really Judas, and am now on the side of the wolves. They key problem here is that neither me nor Wilken would have any way of contacting the wolves, and the wolves could not know for sure if the role switch occured. So in the end we would end up with a couple of people on the wolves' side, but with no actual way for collusion to occur, since the wolves would think the same thing as the humans. That is, that both Judas and Saulus are on the side of the humans. About the worst that could happen is that I publicly post the identity of the seer and the guardian, but then I would assuredly be lynched, making the plan unworthwhile for myself.

Anyway, I will think more about this game later. My mind is mostly elsewhere right now.

[ddrdanc3r55]

Re: TWG XXXI: A Blast From The Past

I talked with Iggy, and I got a few things cleared up, and shot a few ideas around.

[16:17] randumb lol: Hey.
[16:18] Iggy911Mc: hey wassup
[16:18] randumb lol: Nothing, just want to talk about TWG.
[16:18] Iggy911Mc: sure, i was just about to post another thought
[16:18] randumb lol: Okay.
[16:18] randumb lol: Yeah, I'm not really getting my thoughts out.
[16:18] randumb lol: I kind of backed off after posting my first one.
[16:19] Iggy911Mc: lol thats a big mistake
[16:19] randumb lol: Yeah, well Tass kind of scared me.
[16:19] randumb lol: :<
[16:19] Iggy911Mc: i mean yea you may not be right but tass is a jerk anyways and will rip you on anything you think of anyways
[16:20] Iggy911Mc: lol he did it to me too but im just like "stfu wolf"
[16:20] Iggy911Mc: if we make a mistake just take it and move on
[16:20] randumb lol: Okay.
[16:20] Iggy911Mc: have you had any other ideas since your first couple posts?
[16:21] randumb lol: Hmm, not really.
[16:21] randumb lol: I don't know why Kefit said that you could possibly be a wolf.
[16:21] randumb lol: Oh.
[16:21] randumb lol: I get it.
[16:21] randumb lol: So you could stay alive.
[16:21] Iggy911Mc: lol because he wants to lead the alliance and he hates me
[16:22] randumb lol: I was thinking about lynching any guarded/res'd people.
[16:22] randumb lol: But that would be wasting.
[16:22] Iggy911Mc: meh wolves really dont need to fake anything
[16:22] randumb lol: While the wolves just pick us off.
[16:22] Iggy911Mc: yea since there are so few unknowns out there, wasting a lynch or wolf on me or wilkin is a waste
[16:22] randumb lol: Are you allowed to post convos at all?
[16:23] Iggy911Mc: i mean i guess going for kefit was ok since after i did the numbers we actually gained the day we lost back
[16:23] Iggy911Mc: yea you can post any convo you have except convos you have with the host
[16:23] randumb lol: Oh, okay.
[16:23] Iggy911Mc: did you read my theory on hans?
[16:24] randumb lol: Did you just post it?
[16:24] randumb lol: I read hastily through the thread last Saturday.
[16:24] Iggy911Mc: umm since day2 started yes
[16:24] randumb lol: What's this red/blue thing?
[16:24] randumb lol: Special roles?
[16:25] Iggy911Mc: red usually means wolves
[16:25] randumb lol: I've never heard of it before.
[16:25] randumb lol: Oh, okay.
[16:25] randumb lol: ]
[16:25] Iggy911Mc: but in this game kefit started off on the red team
[16:25] Iggy911Mc: but he wasnt a wolf he would just win if the wolves won
[16:25] Iggy911Mc: however since he was lynched hes now on the green team and wins if the humans win
[16:26] Iggy911Mc: unless you think kefit was actually judas in which case he woudld have started green and is now on the wolf team
[16:26] randumb lol: Vampire is human, right?
[16:26] randumb lol: I mean to the seer.
[16:26] Iggy911Mc: yes i start human and if i die i come back on my own team
[16:26] Iggy911Mc: yea all three of these roles come up green to the seer
[16:26] randumb lol: Ahh, makes sense.
[16:27] randumb lol: I see why Tass got mad.
[16:27] Iggy911Mc: lol yea but honest mistake
[16:27] Iggy911Mc: usually theres a debate about what the rules will be for the next game and blah's idea was tossed around a bit so i would say most people know the rules
[16:27] Iggy911Mc: you came in late so i guess its ok that you didnt know them at the beginning
[16:28] randumb lol: I wonder why the seer didn't contact Kefit.
[16:28] randumb lol: It's kind of obvious that more people approve of his plan than yours.
[16:28] Iggy911Mc: well the seer could have contacted kefit, its just that kefit isnt telling us that he did
[16:29] Iggy911Mc: yea more people approved of kefits plan but well see what people will be saying when kefit dies lol
[16:29] Iggy911Mc: see my plan was better IMO because no wolf would kill me since i would come back and still be against them
[16:29] Iggy911Mc: i wouldnt be lynched either becuase i would be working with the humans
[16:30] randumb lol: Or you could be a wolf.
[16:30] Iggy911Mc: course the same theory applies now but its just that kefit is alliance leader and im not
[16:31] Iggy911Mc: meh theres that possibilty but really there would be no reason for me to come out as vamp as the real vamp would go under the radar and have a chance of coming back as the SK and no one would know it
[16:32] randumb lol: Here's a thought: Kefit could be the vamp, but he waits for another resurrection to take advantage of it.
[16:33] Iggy911Mc: well i know that isnt true but again no reason for him to fake saulus because then the real saulus would call him on it since kefit would still be against the read saulus
[16:33] Iggy911Mc: real saulus*
[16:34] randumb lol: Wait, what?
[16:34] randumb lol: Are you saying the real Saulus would intervene?
[16:34] Iggy911Mc: yes
[16:34] randumb lol: What's stopping me from believing Kefit.
[16:34] randumb lol: If we lynch both, how do we know?
[16:34] Iggy911Mc: lynch both?
[16:35] Iggy911Mc: who's the other person
[16:35] randumb lol: The real Saulus and the fake saulus(possibly Kefit).
[16:35] randumb lol: I doubt it, though.
[16:35] randumb lol: Well, this situation hasn't happened.
[16:35] randumb lol: Maybe the real Saulus would think of that.
[16:36] randumb lol: But it was clear that it's beneficial to the real Saulus to come out.
[16:36] randumb lol: rather than just hide
[16:36] randumb lol: Or become saulus without people knowing.
[16:37] randumb lol: Hmm.
[16:37] randumb lol: Lemme think for a minute.
[16:37] randumb lol: Well, it would be smart, because 1 effective lynch out of 2 is good, right?
[16:38] randumb lol: If we lynched both?
[16:38] Iggy911Mc: who is the other person that we have to lynch though thats not what im getting
[16:38] randumb lol: Kefit, and the real saulus.
[16:38] randumb lol: This is hypothetical.
[16:39] randumb lol: Basically, what if kefit was the vamp.
[16:39] Iggy911Mc: i think you should reread talisman's post
[16:39] Iggy911Mc: number 96 on the thread
[16:39] Iggy911Mc: he basically nails it down logically that everyone would be telling the truth
[16:40] Iggy911Mc: wilkin and kefit arent the type of players to do crazy stuff
[16:40] randumb lol: Ahh, okay.
[16:40] randumb lol: I wouldn't know.
[16:40] Iggy911Mc: now someone like me, fish, tps, or tass would probably but those guys are really conservative players
[16:40] randumb lol: I didn't know Kefit.
[16:40] Iggy911Mc: meh all i know about him is that hes good and that we do opposite things
[16:41] Iggy911Mc: last game i lead an alliance and basically rather than let people talk, i just insta lynched people that i wanted gone
[16:41] Iggy911Mc: i won but he said it was dumb luck lol

[iggymatrixcounter]

Re: TWG XXXI: A Blast From The Past

Just for the record, no one has contacted me about forming an alliance.

Also, consider if Judas and Saulus did switch roles - that is, that I am really Judas, and am now on the side of the wolves. They key problem here is that neither me nor Wilken would have any way of contacting the wolves, and the wolves could not know for sure if the role switch occured. So in the end we would end up with a couple of people on the wolves' side, but with no actual way for collusion to occur, since the wolves would think the same thing as the humans. That is, that both Judas and Saulus are on the side of the humans. About the worst that could happen is that I publicly post the identity of the seer and the guardian, but then I would assuredly be lynched, making the plan unworthwhile for myself.

Probably shouldn't have said that first part.

Oh and assume you were Judas, when you say the worst that could happen is that you would post the identities. Well even if you got killed for doing it, you would still win with the wolves if you died a second time. So using that statement as a defense is faulty logic.

[Kefit]

Re: TWG XXXI: A Blast From The Past

I would be dead. Therefore I wouldn't win.

Unless the rules have changed in the time I wasn't playing, but I never really cared about the official score keeping anyway. My intent is to survive to the end of this game.

And I will say whatever the **** I want, thank you very much Iggy.

[FishFishRevolution]

Re: TWG XXXI: A Blast From The Past

4:55:06 PM iggy911mc: what up fish!!!
4:55:06 PM insanelikeafish (Autoreply): brb
4:59:57 PM iggy911mc: hey dont avoid me, i pegged you as a wolf, you must put up with my senseless logic!
Iggy911Mc went away (5:01:23 PM)
Away Message: food refresh.. (5:01:24 PM)
Iggy911Mc came back (5:05:51 PM)
5:11:24 PM insanelikeafish: you are an enormous ******, and have absolutely no sense about who is a wolf
5:12:02 PM insanelikeafish: i have really had no time to pay attention to the game today (game day) and don't appreciate you making sup stuff to try and make yourself look intelligent
5:12:07 PM insanelikeafish: i don't even know what you've posted
5:12:20 PM insanelikeafish: but it's probably utter bs just like your phone call idea from last game
5:13:04 PM insanelikeafish: the fact that you started putting in TWG stats in your sig makes me want to vomit
5:13:08 PM insanelikeafish: we don't need another tass around here
5:13:14 PM insanelikeafish: pegged is such an arrogant word
5:13:18 PM insanelikeafish: you haven't pegged anything
5:13:27 PM insanelikeafish: you got lucky last game and you think you're some god now
5:13:29 PM insanelikeafish: you're wrong
5:13:53 PM insanelikeafish: and you've also been pissing me off this game
5:14:01 PM insanelikeafish: get over yourself

I am now reading the thread.

[iggymatrixcounter]

Re: TWG XXXI: A Blast From The Past

I take pride in something and that makes me a bad person?

Whatever don't expect anything from me the rest of this game.

[FishFishRevolution]

Re: TWG XXXI: A Blast From The Past

Okay guys, let's get an alliance going, I doubt Kefit and Wilkin have switched roles. It was a very big concern for me yesterday, but after the point Kefit just brought up, I think it should be safe to form an alliance around res-saulus with a back up of vamp if necessary.

As far as wolves go, my primary concerns right now are tps, followed by eb. tps was unusually quiet yesterday; he's usually really active day 1. Then this early vote for the double reverse psych deal...i dunno it doesn't feel right.
eb for the same reasons as I had yesterday, although as it's already been mentioned, his most recent post takes quite a bit of suspicion off him (well at least for me).

Other than that I got nothing else. I'm going to re-read the thread later today when i have more time.

[FishFishRevolution]

Re: TWG XXXI: A Blast From The Past

I take pride in something and that makes me a bad person?

Only when it reflects on the way you treat other people.

Whatever don't expect anything from me the rest of this game.

If you're really the vamp and on the human team, you're only hurting your team. I don't appreciate having my intelligence insulted or being treated as a five year old that you "caught." I also get angry when falsely accused. Put it all together and you get a big mean fish.

OH NO DRAMA =(((((((

[MiniNeo]

Re: TWG XXXI: A Blast From The Past

Lol, so that makes two people that are (apparently) pissed at iggy >_>.

Tass's Phantom: Makes me think of eb a few TWG games back where he semi-intentionally got a phantom and got a few suspicion off him. Maybe (I say again Maaaaaybe) Tass is doing the same thing?

[Tasselfoot]

Re: TWG XXXI: A Blast From The Past

Mini... I've prided myself on not getting a phantom in 30 games. I wouldn't let myself get a phantom under ANY circumstances. This was purely stupidity on my part and nothing more.

I'd like to say it proves me human, or something like that, but it is just me being completely apathetic about things right now combined with showing Whorli around NYC for the last time before I graduate college on Tuesday. If I'm still around by Wed night / Thurs, I'll be much more active.

[Kilgamayan]

Re: TWG XXXI: A Blast From The Past

Whatever don't expect anything from me the rest of this game.

lmao join the club 8)

[GuidoHunter]

Re: TWG XXXI: A Blast From The Past

Whatever don't expect anything from me the rest of this game.

-MOOOOOOM!
-Iggy, why the tears?
-I quit! I HATE baseball!
-Aw, what happened, honey?
-The kids... sniffle... they were making fun of me!
-Well, now you don't have to worry about them making fun of you ever again. Now come to mommy; I've been bursting with your dinner.

--Guido

http://andy.mikee385.com

[FishFishRevolution]

Re: TWG XXXI: A Blast From The Past

Hey some craziness seems to be going down tomorrow. I'm driving to new york for some insane reason, but I will be online before the day ends. Be that as it may, I don't want something to go wrong and get a phantom.

eb for the half-safety