FFR 6th Official Tourney Songs Discussion: Round 2

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  • XxMidigamixX
    FFR Player
    • Nov 2010
    • 2040

    #106
    Re: FFR 6th Official Tourney Songs Discussion: Round 2

    Originally posted by Emithith
    you know, the one thing that pisses me off about this "difficulty logic" is that Novo Mundo is an 11. There are definitely WAY harder 10s. I don't care if there is a set of rolls near the end of that song. It's unjustifiable.

    I've also said this once, and I'll say it again, we need a set SONG for each Difficulty for it to be the trend setter. So, say anything harder than Over the Frail Dream is a 10 etc etc.

    Disregard ATPS, and BPM. The chart is important as ****, and 3 sets of runningmen at 100bpm/16ths is probably harder than 1 120bpm/24th runningman.

    Just me shooting my mouth off, I probably don't know jack shit, but damn, we need a FINE LINE for difficulties.
    Amen to that. elegante is in no ****ing way a 9. Sure the beginning is easy to PA but once you get to the 16th jumps, the abused hands, and the awkward 32nd bursts is harder than MOST of the 9s in this game. SHOULD be a low 10 imho but tbh, Nitrix is easier and most of the 10s (especially Lune Noir for ****'s sake) are easier than this file. All I'm saying is that the file is a typical 9+ bmah file that should be a 10. Also, the file is horrible, gj judges for accepting garbage files. Subjectivity is the reason why we have Dossar files. Also, this file feels like a Dossar file so yeah...file is complete garbage.
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    • ichliebekase
      FFR Simfile Author
      FFR Simfile Author
      • May 2006
      • 3213

      #107
      Re: FFR 6th Official Tourney Songs Discussion: Round 2

      Originally posted by Ryusei_
      Using this logic, does this mean that difficulty wise....Fall Silently is harder than Velocity? If we're talking strictly based on scores gotten by the masses, this seems to be the case so far. It's seeming to me that Velocity is more of a high 9 than a 10

      Ichliebekase pointed out in profile chat that Champion Freeverse (a 9) is a very comparable file to Velocity (Same song Author, same stepfile artist) and has a pretty similar feel
      Extending on this comment, when comparing those files, the reason why I pointed out same author and step artist is because Carlos has his own style, bmah has his own style, etc. Carlos stepped 2 Tonedeff files that even sound the same. IMO, the charts are just about the same, minus the colors from CF. They even have just about the same total combo (not saying this is a legitimate factor, just found it ironic).
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      • psychoangel691
        Retired Staff
        FFR Simfile Author
        • Dec 2004
        • 10438

        #108
        Re: FFR 6th Official Tourney Songs Discussion: Round 2

        Originally posted by Ryusei_
        Using this logic, does this mean that difficulty wise....Fall Silently is harder than Velocity? If we're talking strictly based on scores gotten by the masses, this seems to be the case so far. It's seeming to me that Velocity is more of a high 9 than a 10

        Ichliebekase pointed out in profile chat that Champion Freeverse (a 9) is a very comparable file to Velocity (Same song Author, same stepfile artist) and has a pretty similar feel
        K well I sightread AAA'd Champion Freeverse and here I am 65 tries later on Velocity and still no AAA. Have 5 on it as m best. To me Freeverse flows way easier than Velocity does and velocity has some dense jumpstream areas. Chances are the reason Freeverse is comparable to some is because they have a bias with colored charts.


        EDIT: Yea I just watched the Freeverse preview since it had been a little while and that's not comparable to Velocity like at all.
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        • who_cares973
          FFR Player
          • Aug 2006
          • 15407

          #109
          Re: FFR 6th Official Tourney Songs Discussion: Round 2

          HEY DUMBASSES NO WAY IN ****ING HELL IS VELOCITY COMPARABLE TO CHAMPION FREEVERSE JUST BECAUSE ITS THE SAME SONG ARTIST AND STEPFILE AUTHOR.

          IF SOMEONE SERVES YOU TWO COMPLETELY DIFFERENT DRINKS YOU DO NOT SAY THEY ARE COMPARABLE JUST BECAUSE YOU WERE SERVED YOUR DRINKS BY THE SAME PERSON IN THE SAME GLASS. THATS JUST PLAIN STUPID

          also velocity is a VC deal with it

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          • alloyus
            ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
            FFR Simfile Author
            • Oct 2006
            • 3269

            #110
            Re: FFR 6th Official Tourney Songs Discussion: Round 2

            Such a great analogy, I died XD

            ^FFP_D0pey btw

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            • who_cares973
              FFR Player
              • Aug 2006
              • 15407

              #111
              Re: FFR 6th Official Tourney Songs Discussion: Round 2

              i keep getting 2 goods on velocity no matter what different combination of speedmod noteskin and offset i try rofl. WELP i guess im out this round

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              • bmah
                shots FIRED
                Profile Moderator
                FFR Simfile Author
                Global Moderator
                • Oct 2003
                • 8448

                #112
                Re: FFR 6th Official Tourney Songs Discussion: Round 2

                Originally posted by who_cares973
                i keep getting 2 goods on velocity no matter what different combination of speedmod noteskin and offset i try rofl. WELP i guess im out this round
                Surely after a nearly clean 43 goods on J'ai Envie de Plaisir, you should be able to wipe the floor off your own file.

                Originally posted by Divinefury
                I always get random goods at the end when it slows down... ლ(ಠ益ಠლ)
                The song's a constant speed...
                Last edited by bmah; 11-23-2011, 08:45 AM.

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                • Sweet_Feet
                  Washed Up
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 1934

                  #113
                  Re: FFR 6th Official Tourney Songs Discussion: Round 2

                  Originally posted by XxMidigamixX
                  Amen to that. elegante is in no ****ing way a 9. Sure the beginning is easy to PA but once you get to the 16th jumps, the abused hands, and the awkward 32nd bursts is harder than MOST of the 9s in this game. SHOULD be a low 10 imho
                  There are plenty of 9s in game that are just as challenging if not more!
                  Torinouta, Legendary Etude, Forsaken Neon, Over the Frail Dream, etc.


                  Originally posted by who_cares973
                  i keep getting 2 goods on velocity no matter what different combination of speedmod noteskin and offset i try rofl. WELP i guess im out this round
                  You will AAA this song.

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                  • [TeRa]
                    FFR Player
                    • May 2007
                    • 9922

                    #114
                    Re: FFR 6th Official Tourney Songs Discussion: Round 2

                    shouldn't be too hard, only my 10th play. wanna get this today

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                    • dragonmegaXX
                      ITG playing fur
                      FFR Simfile Author
                      • Jul 2008
                      • 3661

                      #115
                      Re: FFR 6th Official Tourney Songs Discussion: Round 2

                      Elegante is not even hard what is wrong with people

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                      • bmah
                        shots FIRED
                        Profile Moderator
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        Global Moderator
                        • Oct 2003
                        • 8448

                        #116
                        Re: FFR 6th Official Tourney Songs Discussion: Round 2

                        It's probably the [123] [134][123] hands (followed by a 32nd roll) near the last third of the song that gets to some people.

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                        • dragonmegaXX
                          ITG playing fur
                          FFR Simfile Author
                          • Jul 2008
                          • 3661

                          #117
                          Re: FFR 6th Official Tourney Songs Discussion: Round 2

                          Originally posted by bmah
                          It's probably the [123] [134][123] hands (followed by a 32nd roll) near the last third of the song that gets to some people.
                          Oh I thought you meant like a legit roll with like 5 layers.

                          It still doesnt seem like something that D3 shouldnt have AAA's on by now.
                          I just woke up so I drop a couple random goods here and there but the part you mentioned seems pretty simple.

                          Just my opinion.

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                          • Ziergdsx18
                            ℜ1 ステップチャート 著者
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            • Nov 2007
                            • 2800

                            #118
                            Re: FFR 6th Official Tourney Songs Discussion: Round 2

                            Woop, there it goes again, a stupid debate about difficulties of files. LOL

                            ITT: nubs complaining about difficulty of files they cant sightread AAA. /o/
                            Last edited by Ziergdsx18; 11-23-2011, 09:20 AM.


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                            • dragonmegaXX
                              ITG playing fur
                              FFR Simfile Author
                              • Jul 2008
                              • 3661

                              #119
                              Re: FFR 6th Official Tourney Songs Discussion: Round 2

                              Originally posted by Ziergdsx18
                              Woop, there it goes again, a stupid debate about difficulties of files. LOL
                              Because it's illegal to have an opinion, Im very sorry.

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                              • Xayphon
                                sausage
                                FFR Simfile Author
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 1630

                                #120
                                Re: FFR 6th Official Tourney Songs Discussion: Round 2

                                All files were good, props

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