TWGXVIII: LD wins (Wolves win on day 8)

[JurseyRider734]

Prologue

Plans were being set into motion. Middle Earth was on the brink of a battle, and all over, everyone was awaiting the outcome. Theoden of Rohan, with Aragorn by his side, awaited news from Gondor. Frodo and Sam were continuing their journey with Gollem as their guide through a passageway in to Mordor. Gandalf and Pippin had set out on their quest of greeting the Stuart of Gondor, Lord Denethor, to bring news of Mordor’s next strike. Men from the South and the Coast traveled on oliphants and ships to conjoin with Mordor’s armies in a battle against the remaining men that Middle Earth had left, as the Witch King of Agmar prepared in Minas Morgul, awaiting Sauron’s call.

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The stars were out, and the sky was clear; a grand night for a party. Muffled singing and shouting came from inside the large castle-like building resting atop an enormous hill that resided in Rohan. Legolas stood outside the door as smoke fumes emitted from the elven-made pipe he had received as a gift in Rivendell. Legolas pondered over the events to come. What would happen to Middle Earth? Would all that was good left be smothered under the reign of Sauron? The outlook was not hopeful; Legolas knew of the stirrings beneath the Earth. Sauron was building an army, not only orcs, but legions of men who would bounce at the call of Mordor. With the Witch King of Agmar leading Sauron’s troops into an epic battle against Gondor in the future, there was little chance of men being able to defeat them.

Aragorn stepped outside.

“Something troubling you, friend?” he questioned.

“No, not at all, just thinking. How’s the party going?”

“Everyone’s relaxed at the time-being,” Aragorn replied, as he held a pint of home-made beer in his hand, “their minds are not focused on the issues that will be at hand in the near future. They deserve that.”

“Good. Shall we go inside?”

Legolas stepped inside the door with Aragorn following closely behind. The laughter brought a smile to their faces as they exchanged a few words in an elvish dialect before joining in on the celestial affairs taking place inside.

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PMs have been sent out.


It is Night 1, wolves, guardian (Aragorn) and seer (Legolas), send me your picks over PMs. You have 24 hours to do so.

No one should reveal their character names to ANYONE unless they are in an alliance. This is cheating, and if I hear that this is happening, you will be punished. 2 phantoms = 1 game ban. Also, I’m not taking any of this fairy boy “I couldn’t get to a computer in 4 days” BS. Be active. If you’re not posting I’ll pester you. You’re lucky that I’m going to, most hosts won’t. Good luck~



Here's the players, and their screennames:

Afrobean – Afrobean16
_BBQ_ - Bigchilikd
blahblah18 – mastr414
chardish – This Is Chardish
dAnceguy117 – P337 teh 1337
evilbutterfly – evilbutterfly87
flypie743 – flypie743
GuidoHunter - ElSoyokaze
HansSky – NotSoFarOff
ImEric12 – chickens of doom
Kilgamayan - bjstrattonIM
lightdarkness – lightdarkness42
nforcer06164 – nforcer06164
Omeganitros – OmegaNoxim
Psychic25 - ilseruus
talisman – stressreliefball
Tps222 – Tps7910
Vashthestampede0987 – pyro31191

[JurseyRider734]

Alright I thought about this earlier and must have forgotten when I was thinking it up.


You will know when a blue dies, because of the character names.

However, if a wolf is lynched, you won't be told.

[JurseyRider734]

It was night, and all was quiet. The stars were veiled as Aragorn set out for a midnight ride with Eomer, Legolas, Gimli and Theoden across the vast fields of Rohan. The five talked of their plans if Gondor was in need of their help. Theoden hoped that at least 15,000 would come to him from all around Rohan if he ever had to call on them.

The five walked slowly upon the hills. All of a sudden, a pack of Uruk-Hai were running towards the group on horseback. Eomer, Legolas, Gimli and Theoden began to gallop away from the oncoming orcs as Aragorn’s horse reared in terror of the shouting and terrible group of half man, half orc. Aragorn fell to the ground as his horse galloped after the other four. The Uruk-Hai walked straight up to Aragorn, lying on the ground. Aragorn stood up and began to defend himself against their strength and brawn, but there were too many of them. He took one swift but forceful blow to the head, and he fell to the ground. The leader of the Uruk-Hai grabbed his sword and beheaded him. There lay Aragorn, son of Arathorn, heir to the throne of Gondor, beheaded and lifeless. The other four had stopped as soon as they realized Aragorn was not with them and looked back in terror. They contemplated over returning to the site to fight the orcs, but soon realized they were outnumbered with no hope of staying alive.

The four solemnly returned to the castle with the ill news of Aragorn’s death. All of Rohan was full of sorrow. They wouldn’t know how they would carry on without their true leader. The outlook was not good, and many men became fearful of the future. Gondor’s future king was dead.

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It is now Day 1, and HansSky, the guardian, has been killed. You have until 9:30pm EDT on Monday to make your votes. Remember, 2 phantoms = 1 game ban.

Remaning players:

Afrobean
_BBQ_
blahblah18
chardish
dAnceguy117
evilbutterfly
flypie743
GuidoHunter
ImEric12
Kilgamayan
lightdarkness
nforcer06164
Omeganitros
Psychic25
talisman
Tps222
Vashthestampede0987

[HansSky]

Whores.

[Afrobean]

Wow...

This is messed up.

[Omeganitros]

My dear god...

[lightdarkness]

WTG Hans

[ImEric12]

Crap.

So now we're without the guardian, and the psychic is no longer in the game for some reason. :<

Legolas better be dead on with his accuracy.

[Kilgamayan]

Oh Jesus, not again.

Methinks we need to stop doing games with character specific roles. First Dark Matters, then Roasted Chicken and now this. >_>

[lightdarkness]

Gonna start the day out by voting for Tass, he hasn't been active throughout the entire night, and I think thats just an excuse to stay out of the spotlight.

Oh, you say Tass isn't in this game? He's been BANNED you say?

Oh. (Sorry, I had to)

[JurseyRider734]

Crap.

So now we're without the guardian, and the psychic is no longer in the game for some reason. :<

Legolas better be dead on with his accuracy.


The psychic is in this game...


He gets told how many wolves remain in the beginning of the day.

[ImEric12]

Oh.. you took it out of the main post. Before it said the name of the psychic.

[flypie743]

Holy crap. Well this sucks :<

Hans has always been a good player. IIRC, he has been killed Night 1 a few times.

[ImEric12]

Yeah, last time I played in a game he was killed Night 1 as well.

But he was a wolf that time, hah.

[talisman]

well. probably a normal selection by the wolves, good player, less-likely to get guarded than blah or chardish, etc etc. sucks that he had to be the guardian though =/.

[dAnceguy117]

What. How gay. Now Hans might quit 4 EVER>

I am not a happy camper.

[psychic25]

Wow. This does suck.

Good choice on the wolves' part :P.

[ImEric12]

Hmm. Well that DOES mean he didn't guard himself.

So either he had a reason to not guard someone else, or he randomly guarded a better player like Chardish or something.

[Afrobean]

Hmm. Well that DOES mean he didn't guard himself.

So either he had a reason to not guard someone else, or he randomly guarded a better player like Chardish or something.
What?

PS guardian can't guard self.

[Omeganitros]

What? I thought he could.

[ImEric12]

Yeah... every game I've ever played, the guardian could, and usually would, guard themself.

Edit one second later: and I meant that he had a reason to guard someone else, not a reason not to guard someone else.

[talisman]

wth are you on eric? the guardian has never been able to guard themselves.

otherwise the humans would pretty much always win or it would come down to a knife in box every game.

[Kilgamayan]

Just because the guardian guards themselves doesn't mean they won't die. They can always get lynched.

[talisman]

ok true, but that's beside the point that they can't guard themselves.

[vashthestampede0987]

Hmmm, first day gives us the death of the gaurdian. I wish it hadn't been hans to die, epspecially since he was a gaurdian. =/

[evilbutterfly]

Firstly, I'd just like to say that the story does not justify the game, making this all kinda silly. Going by the story, the obvious choice is the leader of the Uruk-Hai, but obviously that ain't right. However, this rubs me the wrong way:


Good choice on the wolves' part .


To me, that sounds like a wolf slyly patting himself on the back, but in such an obvious way that people would all be like "nah, a wolf wouldn't do that!" And that's exactly why you would, wolfy. Don't think you're fooling anybody!

...I'm feeling unusually hyper right now, sorry if this post was a bit weird. >_>

[Omeganitros]

Yeah, Cool down eb.

[Omeganitros]

So, who are we going to choose to die?

[evilbutterfly]

We have till Monday night, but since I've been playing lots of MS lately and I didn't even post in this thread until the 2nd page when usually I'm one of the first, I fear I may not get back here because I'm that dumb but whatever, I will vote for psychic now just because of what he said and because I don't wanna get a phantom because I don't wanna be banned like some people are.

wooo run-on!

[talisman]

I'll hold off on any voting until Friday, right before the day ends, as I would normally do.

I doubt you're really going to get stuck in maplestory 24/7 and that part about you not getting in til the second page makes no sense either... just because you got to the thread late doesn't mean you're going to forget to vote later.

[nforcer06164]

psychic's post rubbed me the wrong way, just like eb. I was thinking, "Hm, good first vote....", but eb got to it first, and I don't want to bandwagon. vash's post also seemed kinda weird, because all he did was restate the obvious, and it seemed a little off.

Eh, maybe I'm a little off. I just got back from work and I'm exhausted. I'll take a look tomorrow and see if things look a little different when I have sleep.

[GuidoHunter]

SIGH. Ahwell, we won last game without a seer, so here's to repeating without a guardian.

Anyway, though, I just wanted to say that I won't be here much for the next day or two just because I've been obscenely busy with the end of TAG and moving again, which is why I haven't been online for a couple of days. So, my computer use is limited to when I can snag Amanda's lappy and find a wireless hookup.

--Guido

http://andy.mikee385.com

[Afrobean]

I doubt you're really going to get stuck in maplestory 24/7
You've obviously never played MS before. Hours melt together while in the land of MapleStory.

Since you all are fixated on Psychic's post I feel I should comment. It really isn't that bad. Humans say that same exact thing all the time. I'm totally sure of this and if you don't believe me, look at past games. I'm sure that there are at least 4 examples of a human saying the wolves picked well.

[Tps222]

Sorry, for my innactivity, went to Six Flags New England all of Saturday. I just came back today to check my pm as human, so in no way was it me.

Now, looking at the other times Hans was wolfed within the first 2 days. the wolves were EB, Guido, Blah, and I, well, those were the people that are playing now. i.e Alain and Cypher wolfed him, but their not here. Now, EB was quick to vote on someone, using a reverse pyschology evidence, and Maple Story innnactivity, which is believable. Guido has been moving, and doesn't have many chances at the internet, so I can't say much about him at the momment. Blah hasn't posted at all, which has been a common theme with him the last few games, so I want to keep an eye on him.

I want to see mroe before continiuing on this idea.

[talisman]

I think ld, blah, and I also killed hans night one that one game. Maybe it was someone else though...

[dAnceguy117]

Sorry, for my innactivity, went to Six Flags New England all of Saturday. I just came back today to check my pm as human, so in no way was it me.

Wow, that really hit my funnybone. I noticed the psychic thing right before anyone said anything, and I disregarded it almost immediately, but this really stood out when I read it. I don't think I've ever seen anyone, in their first post of the game, state that they're a human and give an alibi before they're even accused. I wouldn't know if you were on or anything, as I was never on, and when people say they were away from the computer I usually take their word for it. This really strikes me as wolfish though, and so I realize this could easily be faked.

I'm not going to vote you, but I'd like a specific reason as to why you would say that and what you were trying to accomplish.

[chardish]

Tossing out a suspicion vote on eb.

1) Psychic's post, while it was a bit cryptic, was a "conversation-starter" and not an indication of wolfishness. At least, I think so.
2) EB posted in the last thread that he thought Hans was a really smart player, though most people didn't realize it. (Or something to that effect. I'm too lazy to cut and paste)
3) EB's been pretty suspicious himself, what with the phony vote for "the leader of the uruk-hai" and what not. Seems like awkward humor to try to make himself blend in.

[nforcer06164]

Nope, things look the same today as they did yesterday. I still think psychic's post seems fishy. The "Wow. This does suck." part seems kind of sarcastic to me.

Normally, I wouldn't through a vote like this out so early, but I'm going to be gone for 24 hours, starting at 5pm CDT. 15+ hours of it will be spent at my job with the rest in between for sleep. I'll try to get in before the day ends, but no guarantees.

[Tps222]

Dance, it's the truth, there's no way I could have made the kill because I just got back today, I just opened my pm a few hours ago. Thats why in my jTWG thread, I posted on friday, before pm's came out, that I wasn't going to be here at all on staurday, and the knife in the box would have to be on sunday. I didn't get back untill 2 am this morning.

Watching Chardish as well, for taking a fairly safe vote on somone who could be considered suspicious, which gives him a safety valve incase he is a wolf and one of his fellow wolves are getting mass voted. I don't see any other credible reason as to why to vote someone so early.

[lightdarkness]

Dance, it's the truth, there's no way I could have made the kill because I just got back today, I just opened my pm a few hours ago. Thats why in my jTWG thread, I posted on friday, before pm's came out, that I wasn't going to be here at all on staurday, and the knife in the box would have to be on sunday. I didn't get back untill 2 am this morning.

There are two other wolves that are able to make the kill. I've hosted a game where the two haven't heard from the third and they had to make the kill alone. Don't push this alliby to far...

[dAnceguy117]

LD brings up a good point. The fact that you posted an alibi so quickly that can easily be worked around seems pretty damn suspicious, I think.

Not going to vote yet.. but I forget when the day ends =/ I'll go find that now.

Edit: I've got time, I'm not gonna vote yet. I don't really think eb or psychic are wolves, though.

[_BBQ_]

I personally don't feel eb/psychic's posts substantiate enough for a vote, but I don't know :/. TPS seemed a little weird with that post, but again, I dont feel it substantiates a vote. If anyone wants to talk my aim is bigchilikd. I don't think I should vote yet, I'm gonna wait for things to play out a little more.

[Omeganitros]

nforcer

What's my favorite TWG saying? "The wolves are smarter than you, and they never make a mistake."
The saying is not always true, I always play by it. psychic's retarded comment should not rise suspicions, for the exact reason that it rises suspicions. Now, our chances of killing a wolf on day one are pretty slim. A human almost always dies on day one.

Now that I think about it, voting for nforcer does nothing. I want psychic saved, because I think he's just a human that slipped up (and wolves do NOT slip up on day one). So in hopes of saving him, I'm standing behind chardish's for eb.

But I gots me eyeball on you, psychic.

[Afrobean]

It looks like all the cool kids are putting out votes.

Blah, becuase he still has yet to say anything.

[Tps222]

The fact I didn't think of that LD almost proves i'm human. No way a wolf would do something so rash and risky without thinking that completey through, I just told the honest truth. I am going to lay off the voting for now, anyone know when the day ends?

[flypie743]

Psychic: He just looked like a human who was trying to make some kind of comment about the kill. I don't think he meant anything by it and if he were a wolf he would've avoided saying something like that, most likely. He looks human to me.

eb: Looked like:
A) A human who is trying to get conversation/votes going
B) A wolf trying to find a simple reason to vote in hopes people will bandwagon onto it.
I am not sure if I am leaning towards a or b at this point.

[ImEric12]

I doubt you're really going to get stuck in maplestory 24/7
You've obviously never played MS before. Hours melt together while in the land of MapleStory.

I saw that post, decided to try Maple Story, and I've finally emerged 6 hours later, after what seemed like about 2 and a half hours. Ha.

Anyway, there are a few lines of reasoning going around that I agree with, mainly Chardish's and dAnceguy's, and I don't want anyone lynched too fast, so right now I'll throw a suspicion vote on TPS.

[Kilgamayan]

There are two other wolves that are able to make the kill.

There are four wolves total unless Jurs decided to pull one between her host signup and the beginning of this game.

Omega, are you voting for eb? You kept nforcer's name bolded. x_X

[lightdarkness]

There are two other wolves that are able to make the kill.

There are four wolves total unless Jurs decided to pull one between her host signup and the beginning of this game.

Omega, are you voting for eb? You kept nforcer's name bolded. x_X

Yea, I thought Jurs reduced it to 16 and removed one wolf, but that was during the whole tass thing, so yea, 4 wolves.

@TPS: STFU, you're trying way to hard to prove your humanity based on nothing, and it seems as if reverse psycology might be at play "no way a wolf would do that".

Drop it already.

[psychic25]

Oh, good. Results.

That post was supposed to be a little weird. I knew someone was going to notice it and point it out, and I was wondering who was going to bandwagon on it. nforcer, I'm watching you now, especially because you said earlier that "I'm not going to bandwagon." I can see your reasons for voting so early, but your reasons... I mean, sarcastic? What?

EB just looks like he was on a sugar high :P.

The Tps thing does look a little suspicious to me as well, but I'll refrain from voting until tomorrow.

[Tps222]

It seems as everything I do lately is suspicious. Well, I tell the truth, so believe what you want. Right now I'm voting Blah as a talk/safety valve vote, It will change before the deadline. I'm still keeping my eye on Guido, EB and Chardish as well.

[Kilgamayan]

I'm not sure I like this idea of poking blah by voting for him. I can easily see it becoming a situation where too many people do it then he speaks up but people forget to change their votes off of him and oops it's too late the round's over and the best player in the game just got lynched for idiotic reasons.

I'm going to watch for him over AIM and poke him there when I see him, and I suggest others do the same.

[ImEric12]

And once again, TPS rouses my suspicion. Keeping an eye on Guido? Guido has done NOTHING to rouse suspicion.

Also, safety vote for someone who already has a vote? =\

[GuidoHunter]

He did it last game, too, Eric, so I'm not all that worried.

--Guido

http://andy.mikee385.com

[evilbutterfly]

*finally gets back on FFR* My reactions to things so far:

LOL, me and TPS getting suspicion so quickly, as always. I'm crazy, and TPS does things everybody else calls stupid. Nothing new here.


EB just looks like he was on a sugar high .


Something like that, I'm not sure. o_O


2) EB posted in the last thread that he thought Hans was a really smart player


I kept bringing him up because of his freakishly correct gut instinct. Tass has fairly good instincts and that's pretty much why he's good at this game and sees himself as so smart. I kept bringing up Hans because he's always right, even moreso than Tass, yet he doesn't gloat about it nearly as much. Therefore, in my mind, Hans > Tass. At least, I think that's all I said. *shrug*

Can somebody (the host) clarify how many wolves there are? I never exactly read the host signups or any of that, plus all this Tass business and the game changing sizes or something, so I have no idea. I figured it'd be 3 as always, but you guys are saying 4. *needs clarification*

And just to be more clear, the thing about psychic's post that probably rubbed me wrong the most was the :P at the end. I dunno, may be that's just how he is (seeing as how his other post also has a :P in it), but it still rubbed me the wrong way.

Also, I'd just like to say that everybody always tries to say things like

if he were a wolf he would've avoided saying something like that

but you fail to realize that the best wolf does exactly what a human do, which is exactly what everybody thinks a wolf would never do. None of us are really dumb, it's just a matter of whether a person has the balls to call attention to themselves while being a wolf. I do it when Im' a wolf, and I always will, and I also do it when I'm human, but I'm crazy, so it's expected. Anywho, the :P is pretty ballsy, hence more suspicion.

I have no idea about it, though. I'm usually very unsure on Day 1 (only time I wasn't that I recall was when I KNEW Chardish was a wolf, but he wasn't, so now I tend to be more cautious). But hey, may be I'm just hyper because my lil boycott got "the best TWG player" (ha) banned from this game. Seriously, that thought just makes me giddy, and seeing this topic reminds me of it. Meh, it might wear off after some time, though. But I feel we should all make an effort to dominate this game like he would, or else he'll be like "oh look at that, the game I wasn't in was so inactive and the humans lost because I couldn't save your asses!" Especially with the guardian gone, I feel WE HAVE TO WIN THIS IF FOR NO OTHER REASON THAN TO RUB IT IN HIS FACE.

Is that really too much to ask? I just wish we still had Hans with us. ;_;

*goes back to MS*

[JurseyRider734]

There's 4 wolves this game.

[vashthestampede0987]

Day ends at 7:30-ish today, right Jurs?

Note on TWG:
eb's alibi is reasonable because all of us who play MapleStory here know that it can get very addicting at times(Especially for eb). I don't believe anyone has voted for Tps, but people are suspicious of him. That vote isn't a permanent vote, it's just to avoid a phantom if I don't think of something better.

[flypie743]

I don't believe anyone has voted for Tps
Eric voted for him 8 posts above yours.
Yay for reading!

but people are suspicious of him. That vote isn't a permanent vote, it's just to avoid a phantom if I don't think of something better.
So wait, are you voting for him because other people think he is suspicious or because you think he is suspicious? From the way you are talking it sounds like you don't have an opinion and you are just following the crowd and trying to sneak a vote in.

I'm keeping my eye on you, vash.

[Tps222]

And once again, TPS rouses my suspicion. Keeping an eye on Guido? Guido has done NOTHING to rouse suspicion.

Also, safety vote for someone who already has a vote? =\

Didn't you read my post about games where hans died within the first 2 days? Guido was one of the wolves. My vote on Blah doubled as a safety/talk vote, and I said it will change. I still have to think some things over before I change my vote. If you guys think i'm so suspicious then seer me, I have nothing to hide.

[JurseyRider734]

Day ends at 7:30-ish today, right Jurs?


Um...it ends 9:30 EDT. 6:30 on West coast. If it's a two hour time difference in Michigan, then sure.


Ps the last vote made for Tps was made hours before yours lol.

[dAnceguy117]

Alright, I just read over day 1 of jTWG VIII, when Vash was a human. His posts are very similar to his in this game. He made accusations, and backed them up to an extent, but his posts were relatively sparse and pretty much the only time he would post would be to make a vote based on what he's seen or to ask the host something, haha. I'd say he looks human.

Although I still consider Tps a suspect, eb brings up a good point. Tps is often pointed out early for the way he words his posts and for things he says in them people say are dumb. I don't know how to analyze it any further, so I guess I'll move on and just keep a close eye on him.

I still think eb is a humsn, I don't find much sense in the posts against him. I'm also fairly certain psychic is a human based on what he's done. I really do think he drew out a wolf.

I really do think nforcer is a wolf. First he posts how he found psychic's post fishy, but doesn't want to bandwagon on eb's vote. Then, a few posts later, he says he's going to be gone for awhile and might not be able to get back on during day 1. So what does he do? He goes and votes for psychic and talks about how his post rubbed him the wrong way (again). This screams wolf at me; the way he first brings up his "suspicion", but claims he doesn't want to bandwagon has way too many benefits for a wolf. First, he tries to make himself look human by claiming he doesn't want to bandwagon, and at the same time draws more attention to psychic. After there are a few posts and no one else has accused psychic, he gives up on his former plan and goes and places his vote on psychic. I think psychic done good.

I know nforcer isn't here to defend himself, which sucks, but I want other people's thoughts on the matter.

@Jurs: No one uses EDT, wtf >.<

[lightdarkness]

Uhh, practicly everyone uses EDT.

[ImEric12]

Guys.

It's EST.

Eastern
Standard
Time.


I think.

Unless EDT means something else and I'm retarded.

[evilbutterfly]

How do you people not know that it's EST? Wow.

If you guys think i'm so suspicious then seer me

This makes me consider voting for you. Why? Because usually when a person says "seer me" the seer avoids seeing them, thinking that it would waste a seering because "why the hell would a wolf request to be seered!?" By now, I think everybody realizes that the seer rarely honors requests, so a wolf may be ballsy enough to say something like "seer me." Especially you, Mr. I'ma PM Everybody In The Game With Riddles. Just a thought, though ;D.

And I just now noticed that my accusations keep being based around reverse (err, double reverse?) psychology. I gotta keep in mind that I don't act the same as other people, especially comparing me as a wolf to them as a wolf. But whatever.

And uh, can somebody make like, a vote chart? I'm too lazy to count up votes :P.

[lightdarkness]

EDT means Easern Daylight Time... it's what we are all in now, Daylight Savings Time (Except in like indiana or something like that).

95% of the country is in EDT, CDT, MDT, and PDT. Deal with it.

PS: I don't know who to vote for.

[Tps222]

I'm dead serious, seer me if you don't believe i'm human. I haved died on the first day on numerous occasions. Going back to hans and thinking about who of the past wolves it could be. I don't think it's EB nor is it myself, so it leaves me to keep a close watch on guido for now, if he ever gets a connection. Afro and vash have been a bit quiet, and wtf is up with blah?

[talisman]

The people I find mildly/reasonably suspicious: nforcer, danceguy, eric, vash, chardish.

nforcer for what danceguy and psychic already pointed out... the not going to bandwagon post and then the bandwagon vote a day and a few posts later.

danceguy because of basic instinct and what seems like an overuse of modifiers like "really" and "pretty". That may sound dumb, but with his earlier posts against tps he seemed to be using all the powers of suggestion available to him to get people to either think about voting tps or to vote him. It's only in his last post that he backs off, perhaps because no one was really jumping hard on tps, or perhaps because he wants to distance himself from vash/eric, or because he's just a human who happens to agree with eb. also, his first post was easily the sketchiest of any of them... much more so than psychic's. "I'm not a happy camper"? dunno, it sounds forced to me.

eric mainly for the suspicion of tps (especially the "Once again..." line). However I really don't have anything on him besides that.

vash for that vote on tps supposedly without the knowledge that eric had just voted him, and (assuming danceguy is a wolf, which is far from certain) the fact that danceguy defends him as he just did.

chardish for a vote that to the skimming eyes seems to make sense but on closer inspection is based on nothing at all really. His second and third points are quite the stretches... and his third barely makes sense. It's almost like he wrote the "eb has been suspicious" part and then scratched his head and came up with the bs support for that claim (the bit about awkward humor).

other things of interest, based on voting so far... chardish and omega are not wolves together, danceguy isn't wolves together with nforcer, nforcer isn't a wolf partner with eb, and most likely chardish and eb aren't wolf partners either. That was all based on sharing a common vote early on or voting against each other strongly enough that it would seem like a VERY risky move for a wolf to make day one.

finally, my vote goes to danceguy for today, for what I already stated and that I think the case is stonger against him than any of the others I listed, with the possible exception of nforcer.

[Kilgamayan]

Tps has always acted suspicious on some level. I'd be more worried about him if he went a few days without doing anything worth noticing.

To be honest, this is the first time I've wanted to sit down and concentrate on this game due to my weekend schedule - you'll notice everything I've posted so far has been largely irrelevant toward investigation - so I'm going to take a good look through right now and see what I can come up with.

[Kilgamayan]

Oh hey, I guess I did post something "useful" when I talked about not voting for blah. Whatever.

I'm going to take dAnceguy's sentiments with a grain of salt and vote for vash. His first post seems like he was trying way too hard to blend in and it ended up just looking silly, and his second post was, as Chris Berman would put it, "what". flypie brought up a good point about him seeming to want to vote for someone people thought was suspicious. It's a lot easier working with the suspicions of others than making some of your own, especially if you're a wolf trying to bullshit reasons to vote for someone.

That said, I'm also going to keep an eye on LD. There have been sufficiently many people that have acted overly casual that I'm pretty sure one of them is a wolf trying to blend in. Yet all the focus has been on psychic (Page 2 post), eb (Page 2 post) and Tps (page 3 post). LD's page 1 post about Tass hasn't garnered any discussion at all, but I see it just as much an attempt at being casual as the other three posts noted above.

[JurseyRider734]

Afrobean – blahblah18
_BBQ_ - vash
blahblah18
chardish - evilbutterfly
dAnceguy117 - nforcer
evilbutterfly – psychic25
flypie743
GuidoHunter
ImEric12 – Tps222
Kilgamayan - Vash
lightdarkness
nforcer06164 – psychic25
Omeganitros - evilbutterfly
Psychic25
talisman - danceguy
Tps222 – ImEric
Vashthestampede0987 – Tps222

blah - 1
eb - 2
nforcer - 1
Psychic - 2
Tps - 2
danceguy - 1
vash - 2
Eric - 1

Still haven't voted - blah, flypie, Guido, ld, psychic


I have a feeling i'll be giving out a phantom(if not more) today.

ps Nice timing Kilga.

[_BBQ_]

voting vash because kilgas logic looks sound and i dont want a phantom.

[Tps222]

You can't do that in TWG there buddy, you need some supporting logic other then Kilga's. My vote is going to ImEric12 for now mainly because of his stretching for logic on my suspicious self. I probably will change this, but I need to think.

[evilbutterfly]

Hahaha, 5-way ties are always fun. I guess at least this way I have less of a chance of dying, and I have 4 people I can switch to and give them the lead instead of me. We really need to get something more substantial together. Now, about the people with 2 votes each:

1) WHERE THE HELL IS BLAH WTF!! Those votes shouldn't be on him, since he can't have said anything to get suspicion, and they don't seem to be making him talk. Afro and TPS, stop that.
2) Me? A wolf? Nah!
3) Psychic...I dunno, he prolly won't be having my vote for the rest of the day, but I don't know who else to vote for (I hate Day 1). I dunno, I'm not familiar enough with his style to know if he's always :Py or what...
4) TPS, like me, tends to get early suspicion for weird stuff. As Kilga said, we should be more worried if he wasn't acting strange now. Let's give him some time before we go and kill him.
5) Vash....dunno. I think may be he's just stupid/doesn't pay attention.

I don't think I accomplished much here except to say that you're all wrong, which probably isn't true. Some votes need to be changed, though.


Afro and vash have been a bit quiet


I know Afro was playing MS a lil while ago. I'm telling you guys, when you're playing that game time just flies by. It's ridiculous.


other things of interest, based on voting so far... chardish and omega are not wolves together, danceguy isn't wolves together with nforcer, nforcer isn't a wolf partner with eb, and most likely chardish and eb aren't wolf partners either. That was all based on sharing a common vote early on or voting against each other strongly enough that it would seem like a VERY risky move for a wolf to make day one.


Somebody good at logic puzzles may be able to solve the game if we notice more stuff like that. Like how eric can't be the psychic because he didn't know it existed, and some people didn't know about there being 4 wolves (of course the people who said something then could have just been faking...), and stuff like that. I'm not sure what assumptions I would make based on eric and Omega not knowing that a guardian could gaurd himself, but may be somebody could help with that.

Perhaps I'll make a chart later and map out possibilities, especially if we're able to lynch a wolf and get psychic confirmation or get a good seering so we are able to rule out certain combinations...

[flypie743]

voting vash because kilgas logic looks sound and i dont want a phantom.

Nice job bandwagonning onto Kilga's vote. It doesn't even seem like you've read the thread. Or maybe you have and are just trying to keep quiet. This has been your only post all game. Now, if you were active before and had posted your thoughts on the various situations that came up, I wouldn't find this so odd. You just popped out of nowhere and voted without saying anything beforehand. Seems like you are trying to go unnoticed and try and pull off some kind of vote for the day.

BBQ, you have earned my vote for the round. It may change later if new evidence comes up. I will be out tonight, but will be home before voting ends tonight to see if anything happened.

Also, blah usually makes some kind of post stating where he has been or why he has been inactive, but he hasn't this game. Has anyone spotted him on AIM?

[JurseyRider734]

Afrobean – blahblah18
_BBQ_ - vash
blahblah18
chardish - evilbutterfly
dAnceguy117 - nforcer
evilbutterfly – psychic25
flypie743 - BBQ
GuidoHunter
ImEric12 – Tps222
Kilgamayan - Vash
lightdarkness
nforcer06164 – psychic25
Omeganitros - evilbutterfly
Psychic25
talisman - danceguy
Tps222 – ImEric
Vashthestampede0987 – Tps222

blah - 1
eb - 2
nforcer - 1
Psychic - 2
Tps - 2
danceguy - 1
vash - 2
Eric - 1
BBQ - 1

Want to be any more spread out, guys? -_-

Still haven't voted - blah, Guido, ld, psychic

[Afrobean]

WHERE THE HELL IS BLAH WTF!! Those votes shouldn't be on him, since he can't have said anything to get suspicion, and they don't seem to be making him talk. Afro and TPS, stop that.
I was first, you know. It wasn't that bad when I did it; it was more a safety vote than anything. Then TPS for some reason decided to put his vote on blah also.

[lightdarkness]

Voting Afro since he has no votes, and I don't want no phantom. There really isn't ANYTHING to go on today. It's all BS calling. I was suspicious of TPS, but as several pointed out, he always TRIES to make himself suspicious on day one.

Call me if I need to switch my vote, i'll be afk all night, and I don't think afro's a wolf.

[evilbutterfly]

Vash as a tie breaker because I don't wanna die. Psychic isn't really too bad, plus continuing to vote for him puts me in danger. TPS always does something weird so I'll leave him alone for now. Vash is just the only other one with 2 votes, so he's my logical "I don't wanna die so I'll vote for somebody tied with me" vote.

[psychic25]

Hmmm...

Since I'd really rather not be lynched by BS votes, I'm voting for Tps.

Reasons:

1. He votes for Eric

mainly because of his stretching for logic on my suspicious self.

In other words, because earlier, Eric voted for him. Revenge vote?

2. But mostly because of this:

Watching Chardish as well, for taking a fairly safe vote on somone who could be considered suspicious, which gives him a safety valve in case he is a wolf and one of his fellow wolves are getting mass voted. I don't see any other credible reason as to why to vote someone so early.

It seems as everything I do lately is suspicious. Well, I tell the truth, so believe what you want. Right now I'm voting Blah as a talk/safety valve vote, It will change before the deadline. I'm still keeping my eye on Guido, EB and Chardish as well.

Freudian slip, anyone?

He doesn't always call it a "safety valve", either.

Didn't you read my post about games where hans died within the first 2 days? Guido was one of the wolves. My vote on Blah doubled as a safety/talk vote, and I said it will change. I still have to think some things over before I change my vote. If you guys think i'm so suspicious then seer me, I have nothing to hide.

It might be nothing, but since I don't think that eb or vash are wolves and I don't have much else to go on, Tps gets my vote.

[Afrobean]

Voting Afro since he has no votes, and I don't want no phantom. There really isn't ANYTHING to go on today. It's all BS calling. I was suspicious of TPS, but as several pointed out, he always TRIES to make himself suspicious on day one.

Call me if I need to switch my vote, i'll be afk all night, and I don't think afro's a wolf.
HOW COULD YOU VOTE FOR ME?![/sarcasm]

My new safety is LD. I thought of doing this before to get my vote off blah, but now we can be safety buddies.

[evilbutterfly]

I'm guessing psychic and I both started our posts around the same time....

[talisman]

actually flypie I'm pretty sure that was BBQ's second post. The avatar-less posts sometimes slip our memory.

Guys I honestly think voting tps is a mistake... remember the game where he was a wolf and chardish revealed him and whatnot? He acted COMPLETELY differently. He was much much less vocal, and did virtually nothing stupid on day one.

And him coming out with that six flags excuse or whatever would be the ballsiest thing ever for a wolf to do... directly calling attention to the fact that he was away when no one even knew/cared. Perhaps he's being devious and playing off his reputation as saying dumb things day one, but I kinda doubt it.

[Afrobean]

actually flypie I'm pretty sure that was BBQ's second post. The avatar-less posts sometimes slip our memory.
Yea, that was his second post. I already got on him about getting an av too.

[dAnceguy117]

now we can be safety buddies.

Don't forget to bring him to the bathroom so you don't get lost :wink:

I suppose if this really is how Tps normally acts day 1, he isn't a wise vote.. but I don't really think any of the other leading candidates for lynching are either :/ I still really think out of the people with 2/3 votes, Tps is the best bet.. but still, based on what I've heard, I don't really think he's a wolf either.

@Talisman: I can see where you're coming from about the pretty/really thing, it's kind of become a habit. About switching to nforcer, though, it wasn't because pointing out Tps' post didn't create some huge bandwagon, it was because I thought (and think) I had better evidence. I really didn't expect the Tps thing to be a big deal, I just wanted to ask him what he was trying to accomplish by throwing out an alibi right away (which you never answered, btw, Tps =P ).

[evilbutterfly]

I'm going out soon and won't be around when the day ends, probably. We tend to take a long time when we go out to eat.

Afro, defend me if they all suddenly switch to me.

Everybody else, if you switch to me and Afro doesn't defend me enough to keep me from getting lynched, lynch him, he's obviously a wolf. ;D

[nforcer06164]

Okay guys, what I meant by "bandwagoning" was really "bandwagoning so early". Psychic seemed most suspicious at the time, and I didn't see any other options. Notice how I said I didn't like putting a vote out so early? I don't like to place safety votes purely for the sake of being a safety vote. It may happen sometimes, but I'd rather have reason, however small, for voting.

Right now, after reading through everything, my suspicions of TPS and vash have risen dramatically. However, I don't feel too strongly one way or the other, and I don't think psychic is in any danger, so I'm going to leave my vote as-is and let everybody else's votes decide.

[JurseyRider734]

Updated, yet again.

Afrobean – lightdarkness
_BBQ_ - Vash
blahblah18 -
chardish - evilbutterfly
dAnceguy117 - nforcer
evilbutterfly – Vash
flypie743 - BBQ
GuidoHunter -
ImEric12 – Tps222
Kilgamayan - Vash
lightdarkness - Afrobean
nforcer06164 – psychic25
Omeganitros - evilbutterfly
Psychic25 – Tps222
talisman - danceguy
Tps222 – ImEric
Vashthestampede0987 – Tps222

evilbutterfly - 2
nforcer - 1
Psychic - 1
Tps - 3
danceguy - 1
Vash - 3
Eric - 1
BBQ - 1
lightdarkness – 1
Afro - 1

Still haven't voted - blah, Guido

[chardish]

I really feel like I'm going to get wolfed tonight if I don't say anything controversial right now. People know I'm smart and people know I'm good at this game, but I've been unusually under the radar recently. Therefore, I feel like I'm the obvious kill tonight.

I'm not confident eb's a wolf anymore, though, mainly because Afro's sure he's not. A wolf wouldn't openly ask known compatriots to defend him. If it's between Tps and Vash I'd rather see Vash dead.

I'm off to McWork.

[dAnceguy117]

Whoa whoa whoa. How did I not notice this?

BBQ's vote was just like all of his votes in that one jTWG I was in with him. I thought he was just being a tool, as I did this time also, but he was a wolf that game. Since nforcer's clarified his position, this would be a good time to change my vote anyway.

I'm about to upload some simfiles, call someone, and then go running, so I might not be back before the day ends. I probably will though.

[GuidoHunter]

Okay, don't have much time to make a long, drawn-out post (plus the fact that it won't matter today), so I'll just wait with my big post.

Two people have rubbed me the wrong way: psychic and dAnceguy. Flypie irritated me again with her switch to BBQ, and Tps is ALWAYS suspicious, so I'll keep my eye on all of them. I'm not entirely certain for anyone at the moment, so I'll just vote GuidoHunter and hopefully be around tomorrow so I can really get involved.

--Guido

http://andy.mikee385.com

[JurseyRider734]

News had spread across lands of the death of Aragorn. Many were heartbroken, but few were quite pleased with the news. Gandalf and a small group of men gathered in a room to discuss what the plan would be, and how they would be able to defeat Mordor without the help of Aragorn.

Suddenly, one spoke.

“I hated that Aragorn guy. No help he was at all. He probably would have made us lose anyway. Good riddance.”

Gandalf, furious with this comment, stood up and walked over to the being that spoke these words. Overcome with anger out of the slur he had said for one of his closest allies, he took out his sword and stabbed him in the stomach.

“Now it’s a good riddance. I will not tolerate any more of these insinuations. Aragorn was a great loss, and many men have lost all hope in the battle we may face. You may all leave, I will strategize alone today.”

The rest of the men left, slowly glancing over to the dead body of Vash that lay on the ground. Two men picked him up and carried him outside, as Gandalf remained inside with a map of Mordor and his pipe.


Remember, the story has nothing to do with the roles.

It is now Night 2 and vashthestampede0987 had been lynched, wolves and seer, send me your picks. Night 2 ends at 10:00PM EDT tomorrow.

[JurseyRider734]

Saruman stood alone in the tower, with close to none of his power left. He knew he would be trapped there forever, or killed by Treebeard himself, who would be waiting outside for him if he should ever try to leave the tower. Saruman knew that if he were to use the last of his power, he would surely die shortly after. He had no choice; he didn’t want men to overcome Sauron. Saruman took a small vial out of a finely furnished cupboard, along with ash powder and a cup of small crystals he has been saving. Saruman put all of the ingredients into a small dish that rested atop a podium which was about a meter and a half tall. Saruman cast his incantation, knowing that it would possess the human he chose to have it.

---

“AAAAAAGGGGGGGGGJSDFQWOIJGNSDF!”

“What. Was that noise?” Legolas proclaimed.

Legolas, Gimli, Eomer, and Theoden ran outside to witness something that seemed like a joke. It was Boromir, one of the two sons of Lord Denethor, running up to them. White foam was inside his mouth, and he was running like some kind of rabid gorilla. Theoden shouted to Legolas.

“Quick, your bow! Shoot him!”

Legolas, with his elf agility, grabbed his bow and a single arrow, and shot right at Boromir’s heart.

Boromir stopped dead, looked down at the arrow, fell backwards, and tumbled down the steps he had been running up. A crowd gathered around Boromir, gasping at the white foam dripping out of his mouth and the dead accuracy of Legolas’s arrow.

“Never did like that guy very much; a bit too greedy for my likings.” Gimli commented.

Legolas glanced over at Gimli.

“You’re not one to talk.”

---

Meanwhile, back in the tower, Saruman had watched the whole incident through a small mirror-like device that still remained in his possession. The concoction and spell had weakened him terribly more than he had been, but to his amazement, he had not died. Saruman decided he would rest to try and regain his strength, and wondered if it would ever be fully restored.

---

It is now Day 2, and talisman has been wolfed. 15 players remain, so 8 for insta. o ps Day ends Thursday at 8:30 PM EDT.

Afrobean
_BBQ_
blahblah18
chardish
dAnceguy117
evilbutterfly
flypie743
GuidoHunter
ImEric12
Kilgamayan
lightdarkness
nforcer06164
Omeganitros
Psychic25
Tps222

[evilbutterfly]

Hmmmm, I just looked back, and Talisman pretty much just advised us all. His biggest noteable thing that may have made him stand out to the wolves was this: http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&p=448916#448916

Seeing as how he directly picked out 5 people, there's a good chance one of them was a wolf. Also, because most of them are probably human, a wolf would feel safe killing talisman at this point before he thinks about them any further. I know it's not saying much, but I figure one of those 5 should be the next people we look at.

Now, one thing Chris just reminded me of:

Afrobean16: honesly, I was expecting Chardish to die
Afrobean16: any idea why talisman died?

Hmmm, with the guardian gone you'd think all the top players would be gone instantly, right? Wrong, because some of the top players are probably wolves. If all but one top player dies from wolf attacks when the guardian is gone, it gives them away as a wolf. So, they attack the middle players, people wouldn't expect to be killed. This leaves the number of top tier players to choose from as a wolf fairly high and keeps the top tier wolves fairly safe. Now let's see the 5 names that talisman said that could possibly be wolves:

The people I find mildly/reasonably suspicious: nforcer, danceguy, eric, vash, chardish.

Vash is gone from there, so we don't even need to worry about that. nforcer and eric he barely touched on. So we're left with danceguy and Chardish. Chardish would definitely be the top tier player out of these two, so I'll vote for him.

Also, we have talisman's logic bit at the end. I'm not sure if there's anything we can do with it at this point, but hey, it says I'm not a wolf if Chardish is, which I definitely agree with. The rest I dunno about, but we'll see...

PS: If the seer happened to look at Chardish, please tell me so I can announce that and get something done (tell me because I wouldn't be attacking him as a fellow wolf). If Chardish is human, you probably won't trust me, but I guess if I don't hear anything from the seer I may back off a little.

[talisman]

far too predictable... Although it should have taken way more arrows than that, going by the movie.

hey could one of the wolves im/pm me or something... I want to know whodunit.

edit: nvm got it.

[dAnceguy117]

Where is everyone? I figured there would be like a bajillion posts when I refreshed =/ There's a lot to discuss right now.

eb, I'm liking that post. Someone needed to make a big, long post like that to spark conversation. Plus, I agree with most of it to boot. I think Chardish seems pretty suspicious at this point, but I'm not going to make a vote yet. I'm still keeping my eye on some other people, namely Tps and BBQ, I'd like to hear from you guys.

[_BBQ_]

shit, unexpected circumstances are giving me no internet for about a week. I'm sorry to do this, but i need a replacement =/.

[Omeganitros]

I disagree. I think the wolves have decided to keep the smartypants ones alive because then everyone would be suspicious of them and go after their own top players, destroying themselves. It's a good, clever, wolf plan.

No vote yet.

[dAnceguy117]

I disagree. I think the wolves have decided to keep the smartypants ones alive because then everyone would be suspicious of them and go after their own top players, destroying themselves. It's a good, clever, wolf plan.

No vote yet.

That's easily possible, but remember, there are four wolves. At least one is bound to be an upper tier player.

wait what@ day2 ends tomorrow wtfux

I'm like 99.999999% sure I'll be on tomorrow, but there's a small chance I'll be doing stuff and won't have long to ponder my vote. For now, I'll just leave it on BBQ / whoever is replacing him. It will most likely change tomorrow.

[psychic25]

Day ends Thursday, it's Tuesday now lol.

Okay, so...

I agree with EB's post. It makes sense. And Talisman was a solid wolfing- a mid-range player who makes those long posts that everyone is so fond of.

I'm still suspicious of Tps and nforcer, but less so now than before. I'd still like to see them post something, though.

[dAnceguy117]

wtf, I'm so bad at keeping track of the days in summer >.<

[nforcer06164]

I really don't have anything to say. Once again, eb got to doing what I was going to do before me. Now, although I completely agree with him, I can't act on it because it'd be Day 1 all over again. I'm playing "eb's shadow" for now, it seems, because I have nothing better than what I would've said already.

[Afrobean]

I was a bit surprised by the fact that one of the higher level people weren't wolfed. Many others would have made better kills than talisman, and there's not even anyway that all of them could be wolves. I'd say that it is likely that, like danceguy said, at least one of the wolves is probably a top tier player. We probably shouldn't be so eager to lynch a top level player because of this though, as there are many higher level people and to randomly pick one and lynch them will only hurt us.
Seeing as how he directly picked out 5 people, there's a good chance one of them was a wolf.
Don't forget that he might have correctly named one that's not a top level player. I'm talking about nforcer, danceguy, and eric. Don't disregaurd them because they aren't top tier players.

[nforcer06164]

Remember that all the wolves decide on a kill, though. Just because one wolf of that list may have been named doesn't mean the kill was based solely upon that. That may be what the wolves want us to think. I wouldn't be surprised if in fact none of those on the list were wolves. And with this, I start to separate my thinking from that of eb....

[Tps222]

I'm leaning towards Omega's theory. Why would the wolves want to kill the top-tier people. It's expected, that way we would lynch the strongest players, they can get rid of the decent ones, frame the ones Talisman pointed out, and confuse all of us. It's a good plan, one that Guido would do. That's my vote for now, no evidece whatsoever, he hasn't done anything to be suspicious either, I just think he is one of the wolves that would do this.

PS. Seer me if you haven't. I'm super suspicious and act stupid, I expect many votes from this post. Enjoy :)

[evilbutterfly]

Whoa guys!

FLYPIE HAS BEEN SEEN.

SHE IS A WOLF.

The person did not reveal their name, which could mean 2 things. 1) They are the seer and do not trust me, but they want something done. 2) They are a wolf trying to distract me from other things.

The PM said the host said it was allowed (which I don't agree with, but whatever. The TWG Masons screenname thing has been done, and that's just as unfair). However, rather than just vote for flypie, as some would do, I am going to wait a little bit.

IF YOU ARE THE SEER AND YOU DID NOT SEND THAT MESSAGE, PLEASE TELL ME SO THAT FLYPIE DOES NOT GET LYNCHED FOR NO REASON.

IF YOU DID SEND THAT MESSAGE, GROW SOME BALLS AND DON'T HIDE BEHIND NEW SCREENNAMES.

Technically it's not in the rules, but the more I think about this, the more I find it unfair and wrong, and I think TWC should vote on it being outlawed (starting next game, of course).

Anywho, the day ends tomorrow at 8:30 pm. If I haven't heard from a different person who claims to be seer be tomorrow afternoon, I will vote for flypie. Hopefully this message is real, but just in case it isn't, the real seer better let me know...

[Kilgamayan]

I don't see much wrong with it, given you have no reason to trust the source one way or the other. Hell, I could make a random alternate account and flood everyone's PM boxes with notes saying I saw someone that was a wolf.

And flypie as a seer choice within the first two days doesn't make much sense to me. If I were the seer, right now chardish would be my main priority - blah aside he's probably the best player here, and has aroused suspicions from a few people. Other seer candidates for the purposes of getting someone good on your side would be Guido, myself or LD, and if the seer is hunting around for wolves among the people who acted suspicious, we had plenty of options present themselves on Day 1. Combine that with the lack of a name, and I'm taking that PM with a grain of salt.

[Tps222]

It wasn't me this time, I didn't even recieve a pm. Why seer flypie anyways? Seer me. Weird how EB is the only one so far who got it.

[evilbutterfly]

TPS, it's prolly because I demanded it. In any case, if I don't get another PM from the real seer, I'll assume this one is genuine.

And I also wondered why somebody would seer flypie. Then I remembered that several people I've talked to said that seering random people or purposely seering people who likely won't die is a great idea. Why the hell would flypie die? She hasn't done anything wolfy, nor has she done anything to vastly help the humans. Hence, there's not much chance of losing her as an alliance member if she is to be seered. Although, there are other people that fit that bill that would probably be better to have, but I dunno.

AND WHAT IS WITH THE SLOWDOWN IN POSTING! Seriously you guys, I expected my post to cause a lot of discussion, and now this crazy PM. We need more discussion people come on!!

[Tps222]

I want a pm too.

Seer Me.

I'm pretty sure EB is human. I want to hear from Guido, Chardish, and Blah. I don't wan't tp see him get banned, is everything ok with him?

[dAnceguy117]

Sorry, I've been gone, like I said I might be. Not cool.

I find that PM horribly suspicious. The real seer would not just tell someone random that they don't trust that they're the seer, they would wait until they seered a human to tell them. Shouldn't they have seered a human night 1? And if not, shouldn't they have mentioned both seered wolves in the PM?

On top of that is the fact that they seered Flypie. I know you want to seer people that aren't likely to die so you can build your alliance, but there are still other people that fit that bill, and more active people, too.

Speaking of inactivity, where is Blah? Day 2 comes around and he has 0 posts, wtf. I don't want him to get banned :< Oh, and who is going to replace BBQ or whatever?

[Afrobean]

The real seer would not just tell someone random that they don't trust that they're the seer
Notice that the seer didn't tell eb who they were. I imagine eb just got a PM from someone named "TWGSeer" or something. eb, wanna back me up here?

Shouldn't they have seered a human night 1?
Uhh... not necessarily. I was talking to jurs just now, and there's a master wolf, and as everyone knows, master wolf seer'd comes back human. Any game with master wolf means that just because the seer gets human doesn't necessarily mean that the seer wants to start an alliance with them or even tell them that they'd been seer'd.

Now, based on how long this info has been out, and the fact that no one has come to eb saying that they are the seer and they didn't seer flypie, tells me that this was for real. At the very least, another fake name'd PM (if the seer didn't want eb to know their identity, which is the case here anyway) would have come to eb saying that the first wasn't real.

I'm anxious to see flypie's response, but this evidence seems pretty strong, so I'm gonna throw a vote on flypie.

[lightdarkness]

I was playing on voting for flypie before day even started, this seer business is a bonus!

She's been talking to me the whole game, insisting I'm blue rather than every other game where she calls me a wolf right off the bat. Then after I called her on that, she thinks i'm a red because I didn't want to talk about twg once, when I wanted to talk about something personal. I think she understands that, but I haven't talked to her since that TWG converstaion.

As for the reason for her being seer'd, I think that was my doing. I talked to 3 people before "day" started (Haven't asked any of them yet, if you want to just come forward, let me know), and i'm guessing the seer is one of them. I also voiced my concerns to Kilga after day had started, but honestly it could be anyone.

I'd be willing to post the log between Kilga and I if anyone wants... it pretty much sums up everything I've said.

[evilbutterfly]

It has been brought up that this is kinda weird, and that I may just be the seer and I'm saying there is somebody else. I'd love to screenshot my PM, but I'm fairly sure something like that is against the rules. I think I know why the seer would do this, and I will say it now:

There's no guardian. I stepped up and did something. I asked for the seer to contact me. Right now, I'm probably in the wolves' sights. They killed talisman, probably because he was being too helpful. I'm being as helpful as I can be, and that's dangerous to the wolves. So, as somebody who is out there and apparently willing to die for the human cause (I stopped caring about dying quite some time ago), the seer figured I would be a good choice because I would act on it, regardless of whether or not the wolves would kill me.

I was talking to somebody (I forget who, my memory sucks ass) about this before. We were saying how the seer needed somebody they could tell the seerings to so that the humans would know who to vote for. I kept saying that it'd still be dangerous, since whoever does that will surely die, and few people would want to be in that position. One of the wolves' main concerns is to silence the humans. The seer could have a 4-5 person alliance and know a wolf, but if all those people suddenly vote one person, it becomes blatently obvious who is in the alliance, and wolves can pick the alliance apart as quickly as it is formed. Thus, an alliance usually has a frontman, somebody who posts "I am in the alliance, and seer saw **** as a wolf." If, after that, people all vote for the same person, they're bandwagoning and blindly following the frontman. They may or may not be in the alliance, the wolves don't know.

Of course, the frontman is usually guaranteed protection by the guardian. With the guardian dead, we aren't afforded the simple solution of a frontman who serves as the public part of the alliance. It's just not safe. So the simple solution that the seer seems to have chosen was to get a person not in the alliance to serve as the frontman. They tell me anonymously, and what could go wrong? If I'm a wolf and don't say anything, they'd know I'm a wolf and seer me next, giving them two people to kill. If I'm an innocent human, I'll of course share this wonderful news and get the wolf killed. And if the wolves kill me tonight because I led to one of their deaths, that's okay, because I wasn't in the alliance and I won't be a huge loss.

Trust me, if I was the seer, I would NOT be doing this. I don't care if I die if I bring down a wolf, but if bringing down a wolf means losing the seer, that's not a fair trade. I'll probably die for this, which will suck, but that's okay because I'm doing my part. I just wish we'd all be talkative and helpful so that the wolves would have a harder time picking who to kill :P. Of course, they may leave me alive for suspicion and so you all lynch me, but me being the seer's outlet may be too big of a threat for them. *shrug*

[flypie743]

She's been talking to me the whole game, insisting I'm blue rather than every other game where she calls me a wolf right off the bat. Then after I called her on that, she thinks i'm a red because I didn't want to talk about twg once, when I wanted to talk about something personal. I think she understands that, but I haven't talked to her since that TWG converstaion.

Okay, first of all, I didn't call you a wolf right away because you have been acting differently. I HAVE SEEN YOU ACT AS A WOLF AND I KNOW WHAT YOU ACT LIKE. YOU WEREN'T ACTING LIKE THAT. I have played in a game where you were blue once and that was TWG II. I know how you act as red and green, but you weren't acting like either of those, so I assumed blue. You just completely blew off TWG when I was talking to you and tried to cover it up with some bs personal issues or something, but that still isn't like you. You haven't talked to me since that TWG conversation because I was out all day and I just got back from a friend's party...that's obviously why. Plus, you were all "YOU'RE PUSHING ME WAH WAH WAH" when you do that to me like every game. I said no more than 8 lines to you and you say I am pushing you. Wow some pushing I must've done.

As for the reason for her being seer'd, I think that was my doing. I talked to 3 people before "day" started (Haven't asked any of them yet, if you want to just come forward, let me know), and i'm guessing the seer is one of them. I also voiced my concerns to Kilga after day had started, but honestly it could be anyone.
Yeah why you even talked to them I don't know. I SAID 8 THINGS TO YOU AND YOU CLAIM I AM PUSHING YOU TO HARD. You have pushed me a whole lot more than that but I don't put any bs calls on you like you are doing to me now.

This is a whole load of bs. First of all, I admit it I'm not the best player in this game. WHY WOULD THE SEER SEE ME ON NIGHT 2? It just doesn't make sense when others like Chardish, Blah, and Guido are playing. I haven't done anything wolfish, but like eb said I haven't done anything to extremely help the humans either.

Afro what the hell. "This evidence seems pretty strong". It was a mystery PM from the "seer" who claims they saw me. Like I said before WHY WOULD THEY SEE ME? Especially on night 2? It makes no sense.

[flypie743]

Oh and LD claimed he talked to 3 people before the Day 2 started, well he couldn't have. The only thing I said to him about TWG before Day 2 started was a one line thing saying that I think he might be blue AFTER he pulled his little stunt about he didn't want to talk about TWG:

lightdarkness42: hay thar u
flypie PhD: sup
lightdarkness42: not much
lightdarkness42: what is up with YOU
flypie PhD: nm
flypie PhD: I don't know who to vote for in TWG
lightdarkness42: lets not talk about twg
flypie PhD: um ok..
lightdarkness42: lets talk about our lives

He has never just completely blown off TWG like that. He tried to cover it up with some personal issue bs and he never even bought up the thing that he claimed he IMed me for.

I SAID ONE LINE TO HIM BECAUSE HE WAS ACTING WEIRD AND HE CALLS ME A WOLF FOR IT.

This is such bs.

[lightdarkness]

I hardly call that BS personal issues... you should know that.

You can try and weasle out of this... but let me ask you this:

If it's so unlikely that you would be seer'd night 2, it's also soooooo unlikely someone would PM someone to try and get you lynched.

BS ALERTTTTTTTTTTTTT

[Afrobean]

Afro what the hell. "This evidence seems pretty strong". It was a mystery PM from the "seer" who claims they saw me. Like I said before WHY WOULD THEY SEE ME? Especially on night 2? It makes no sense.
I have absolute faith in eb's humanity. Just like you say you can tell things about LD, I can tell things about eb. And since I'm certain that eb is human, and that no one else has come to eb claiming to be the seer, I can assume that eb's PM is accurate.

I admit it doesn't make any sense that you would be seer'd, but that's kind of irrelevant. It is possible, just highly unlikely.

PS@ what LD said while I was typing this: LD is right. A wolf wouldn't go so far out of their way to fake a seer to lynch you. They'd more than likely go after a higher profile player.

[lightdarkness]

Flypie: That convo was legit, and you knwo it

[flypie743]

Flypie: That convo was legit, and you knwo it

No, it wasn't. YOU DIDN'T EVEN BRING UP THE THING YOU WERE TRYING TO GET ME TO TALK ABOUT. You just completely blew off TWG. Maybe if you would've said "oh I need to talk to you about ____ (you know who) it would've been more acceptable. But no, you don't explain to me why you blew it off until THE NEXT DAY. OF COURSE I HAD REASON TO FIND IT WEIRD- YOU DIDN'T EVEN EXPLAIN IT. So naturally I suspected you were acting differently.

[psychic25]

Well, this is interesting.

As for my thoughts about Flypie being seered,

When I was the seer in a jTWG, I was encouraged to build up an alliance before I started catching wolves. To build up an alliance, I seered people who had a low probability of being wolfed. After all, if an alliance member dies or the night's seering dies, that's a wasted seering. It makes sense to seer Flypie in order to build up an alliance- she has a very low probability of being wolfed.

So, with that...

I don't want to vote Flypie just yet. If the real seer didn't send that PM, I urge you to make another account (it would be legal, I presume) if you want to preserve your identity, and tell EB. EB, unless you get another PM, I will assume that Flypie is a wolf, and vote for her at the end of the day tomorrow.

[Kilgamayan]

One thing I'm not sure about: how do we know for sure eb hasn't been trying to trick the seer into revealing themselves to him? We're just assuming that the seer would notice that he/she didn't sent that PM and would come to eb saying that whoever sent it is a liar. But what if eb made the whole thing up in order to draw the seer to him? Surely the life of one wolf is worth the seer's life in return with the guardian known to be dead.

Afro, I know you said you can read eb and you have faith in his humanity, but that only helps your feelings, not mine.

Everything else said about this whole fiasco so far makes sense, but to me the above situation is possible enough to warrant witholding judgement.

[dAnceguy117]

Kilga, that's why the real seer would make a second account. If the first person can do it, why not the second >_>

Anywah, I figure I'll wait 'till the end of the day tomorrow to make my final decision on Flypie. People need to start posting, wtf. While this whole Flypie situation is happening, we can't forget about everyone else. There are four wolves this game, if we focus all on one person that will be a disaster.

EDIT: FFR clocks says I posted at 11:11 =O

[Omeganitros]

Wow, screaming contest.

Well, I think there's enough votes of Flypie without my help. I'll have to look for someone else to vote for.

Hey, lookie there. BBQ hasn't spoken up.

[lightdarkness]

Well... I have a feeling I'm going to be wolfed tonight, as many people think that I am the seer. Since wins are team based, i'm willing to take a hit for the team.

I am not the seer... however, I was seer'd night one. It was my strong suggestion to the seer that made them seer flypie, and obviously she turned up being a wolf. The person who is contacting eb via PM's is really the seer (and supprisingly that wasn't my idea XD). Hopefully by me coming out with this information, the seer will survive another day, because thats all we really have left in this game. I mean, who would've gone after flypie otherwise :-P

If you have any questions, i'll answer them very limitedly, I don't want to give away too much information that might still be important to keep from the wolves.

[Kilgamayan]

Kilga, that's why the real seer would make a second account. If the first person can do it, why not the second >_>

What's to stop a wolf from making that same second dummy account if the first was really the seer?

But I digress.

In the light of LD's above post and a sudden urge to get up and do something rather than sit back and wait for answers to fall into my lap, I'm willing to vote flypie. The case against her looks good enough to me, and if I'm wrong, at least I'm wrong with confidence. :p

[Omeganitros]

Couldn't have said it better, Kilga.

Bye, supaflypie744.

[chardish]

At this point I have little doubt that Flypie is a wolf.

1) Assuming eb's mystery contact is, indeed, a fake seer, why hasn't the real seer spoken up?
2) Assuming eb's mystery contact is, indeed, a fake seer, why hasn't the person the real seer seered night 1 spoken up? We know the seer got at least one seering in, since the guardian (not the seer) died night 1.
3) And we also know that Talisman wasn't the seer (though Vash possibly could have been, but that's a longshot.)
4) Flypie's angry reaction. Usually this is the last recourse of a wolf when they realize that someone is making a huge, sweeping accusation that they really can't easily refute. Instead of going by logic, they just get furious and hope people will be too scared to vote for them.
5) Concerning the above, I know Flypie honestly doesn't care about this game that much to get that angry about it. I think she's putting on an act here that wouldn't be there if she was a human.
6) Eb brought this up by asking the seer to contact him. Then he came forward with what he learned. Then LD came forward like this. These are bold moves. Wolves take longer to plan things like this, but all this happened in a very short time.

There's always the possibility that someone is selling out Flypie, but occam's razor applies in TWG too. We can't guess ourselves to death when there's really only one thing we have to go off today.

[Tps222]

I believed EB was human all game. I trust his instincts, and I believe what Ld is saying as well. Flypie's reaction was an angry one, commonly used by the wolves. Flypie is going to get my vote for today, but you watchout guido.

[ImEric12]

Nothing else to comment on really, although if I just make a post with flypie's name bolded as the only word, I'll be a bandwagon wolf or something along those lines.

I'd offer more analysis, but I just realized it was Thursday. I lost a whole day to Maple Story D=

[evilbutterfly]

WAIT GUYS

[nforcer06164]

Flypie's angry posts just screamed wolf at me, because I've never really seen her get so angry about being accused. Wow. I wasn't really thinking about voting for her, but when she and LD started arguing, well, that did it for me.

[evilbutterfly]

I don't want her insta'd just yet, I'd just like to say this first:

I will not reveal myself, with the guardian dead, it is too much of a risk.

To address Kilgamayan's concerns, Flypie was selected to be seer'd by the suggestion of the person I seer'd on night one. That is the one person I will lay my trust in, and since their suggestion turned up a wolf, I believe they are not the master wolf.


That was sent yesterday sometime, and I didn't post it before for fear that somebody might figure out who was seered and whatnot, but LD is legit, just so you all know.

[nforcer06164]

Damnit I didn't know that was an instalynch. I was being WAY too hasty.

QUICK EDIT: Seeing eb's post right above me, I'm fairly confident it wasn't a waste of an insta, but it definitely takes time away.

[dAnceguy117]

k, I'm not sure when Flypie is being insta'd, whatever. I still don't know what about her, so yeah.

Anyway, I don't know how no one caught this, I'm fairly certain Tps is the master wolf. I figure Flypie will be insta'd soon so I won't make all the quotes now, but the fact is that he blatantly pushed to be seered in like all of his recent posts. Not many people realize it, but there's a master wolf this game. Think of what would happen if the master wolf was seered at this point.

[evilbutterfly]

For the record: we shouldn't have instalynched her, at least not this early. We've just lost hours of possible discussion time, but whatever. I feel TPS should get hit tomorrow, because he has been quite fishy lately. DO NOT INSTALYNCH HIM, however. Give him time to defend himself, for pete's sake!!

[flypie743]

Afrobean
_BBQ_
blahblah18
chardish
dAnceguy117
evilbutterfly
GuidoHunter
ImEric12
Kilgamayan
lightdarkness
nforcer06164
Omeganitros
Psychic25
Tps222

You're all fucking wolves.
Game over, flypie is victorious.

[lightdarkness]

wolf

[JurseyRider734]

lol sorry didn't have time to write a story I just woke up


"Hi i'm evilbutterfly and you're a wolf, chardish. Blabhablahalah prove me wrong, seer."

"omg special PM from anonymous person. flypie's a wolf."


Everyone else: "Pfff, we call BS. We should throw you in Mount Doom because you're dumb."

7 other people: "Let's vote flypie."


Jursey: "Instalynchhhhhhhhhh"


k it's Night now. Flypie's been instalynched, so no phantoms go out today. Blah still has 1 from the other day. Wolves send me your picks, also if there are any remaining blues do the same. You have until Friday at 4:00pm EDT.

[JurseyRider734]

The next morning when everyone woke up, it was no surprise to find Legolas dead.


"I saw that coming." said Theoden.

Gimli wept in the corner for his most beloved friend he had made on the journey. Things were going all downhill from here. There wasn't much hope left for anything.


It's Day 3 and lightdarkness, the seer, has been wolfed. You have until Saturday at 10:00PM EDT to make your votes. Deltro has replaced _BBQ_

Afrobean
blahblah18
chardish
dAnceguy117
deltro[insertnumbershere]
evilbutterfly
GuidoHunter
ImEric12
Kilgamayan
nforcer06164
Omeganitros
Psychic25
Tps222

13 people left so 7 for insta~

[lightdarkness]

lol

[Omeganitros]

No guardian? No seer?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/38040000/jpg/_38040328_homealone.jpg

"AAAAH!"

[Kilgamayan]

Gah, I was afraid of that. =\

At least the psychic is still alive.

Anyway, I'm going to wait for Tps to post before I pass judgement on him.

[ImEric12]

Yeah, I'm definitely starting to lean back towards TPS. I almost voted for him last time again, but the flypie thing looked urgent. =\

[deltro300111]

omgwtfbbq evilbuttfly

Is it coincidence that LD revealed himself as the seer to EB, and then he died?

This'll probably change, but as of now, I've got nothing better to go on.

[dAnceguy117]

WHAT THE HELL >_< Well, at least we know one wolf is gone. That clears up a lot. Still wasn't a cool trade though.

I'll throw my vote on Tps now. If I didn't do it now I would've done it later, it just saves me some time.

[evilbutterfly]

Is it coincidence that LD revealed himself as the seer to EB, and then he died?


Ya know, that might make sense if he had done that, but he didn't.

lightdarkness42 (9:16:44 PM): yo
evilbutterfly87 (9:16:47 PM): yo
lightdarkness42 (9:16:56 PM): I'm dieing
evilbutterfly87 (9:17:05 PM): ???
lightdarkness42 (9:17:08 PM): in twg
lightdarkness42 (9:17:09 PM): tonight
evilbutterfly87 (9:17:17 PM): how do you know?
lightdarkness42 (9:17:22 PM): I just know
lightdarkness42 (9:17:43 PM): so like, your friendly friend will PM you if s/he has any info
lightdarkness42 (9:17:50 PM): we obviously know there are 3 wolves left
lightdarkness42 (9:18:14 PM): me and a person who contacted me with a convo think tps is the mw
lightdarkness42 (9:18:34 PM): tps said watch afro and nforcer
lightdarkness42 (9:18:37 PM): but moreso afro
lightdarkness42 (9:18:38 PM): then later
lightdarkness42 (9:18:39 PM): he was like
lightdarkness42 (9:18:49 PM): I'm almost certain omega and chardish and guido are the other wolves
lightdarkness42 (9:18:54 PM): he just kept changing his story over and over
evilbutterfly87 (9:19:21 PM): And he goes along with Chardish
evilbutterfly87 (9:19:27 PM): and suspects Guido for no reason
lightdarkness42 (9:19:45 PM): This person might post the convo, I don't know, but I don't have their permission
lightdarkness42 (9:20:04 PM): also... if the seer is closed to being lynced, s/he will contact you via that username telling you to switch
lightdarkness42 (9:20:50 PM): well... jurs is gonna update soon

He wouldn't tell me he was the seer, even when I asked him directly. I suspected it, but he wouldn't admit to it. I'm just mad because now we've lost last night's seerings, plus he never told me who he seered night 1. At least we got flypie as a wolf and have TPS pretty much pegged. I'll hold off on voting him now though, just so he has a chance to speak.

[deltro300111]

Ok, that's belivable...

NO ONE <--- yup, i retract my vote.

[dAnceguy117]

Ok, that's belivable...

NO ONE <--- yup, i retract my vote.

You can't :p

[Omeganitros]

I don't blame anyone for being suspicious of me. All I've done is "follow" people and made minimal contribution. I'd be suspicious of myself, except I know I've been playing Megaman Battle Network 5: Team Colonel lately.

[chardish]

We all saw that coming because it was extremely obvious that YourFriendlyFriend was LD, based on the facts that:

1) LD wins the moron prize for PM'ing EB using his normal way of talking. LD is notorious for using way too freaking many commas, and anyone with brains could recognize LD's way of talking from that little PM snippet.
2) EB wins the moron prize for posting that PM publicly.

My guess is that EB is human. A wolf would have just quietly disposed of LD without pomp and circumstance, but EB decided to paint a huge target on LD's shirt and give all the wolves automatic weapons.

I'm not going to vote at this point.

[evilbutterfly]

I didn't know it was LD. I don't sit and analyze typing styles like some people do. I don't even think about it. He was probably gonna die anyway, so whatever.

[Tps222]

I realize I am under a lot of scrutiny at this point, mainly for my urge to get seered. I'm telling you now, I completely forgot their was a MW, or I wouldn't have done it. Do you honestly think I'm clever enough to try and sneak that by you, I didn't even realize it. I don't know how that is damning evidence. I'm guessing that EB talked to Danceguy yesterday, and that's how he got that info. Danceguy, post that entire conversation as sort of a defense thing for me, if not, then sucks for me not to save it.

I understand I'm in a bad position, and I wouldn't even believe me if I wasn't me right now. So, I lasted in this game longer then I thought I would, I'm just glad we nailed one wolf, pending the pyschic report, which I suggest goes to EB, since most of us feel he is human. I pity you all for wasting a day by killing me, but what must be done must be done. As long as the pyschic stays alive, I will recieve my just reward of the frustration of you all.

Another thing against me, in the defense, and helps everyone nail me is that I have never been the master wolf before. It makes it very hard to defend myself, but can you guys read the game when I was a wolf? I'm usually pretty quiet and less suspicious, not this game.

Ohoho you say, trying some reverse pyschology on us TPS? It does seem that way doesn't it, you can't trust what anyone says in this game. I really don't think I can say anything to change your minds, so I am going to throw out my suspect list.

Guido, Omega, Afro. They all give me really bad feelings, Omega admitted his bandwagoning to perhaps make us think "A wolf would never do that". Afro has just been their, and has contributed some minor info, nothing too much. Guido, he is the one that gives me a horrible feeling in my stomach. Just like when Hans did a couple games back when I was the seer, and he turned out wolf. I am almost 90% sure he is a wolf with 0 proof.

I highly suggest you don't instalynch me, gives time for the pyschic to contact EB, and for some more discussion to go on.

[nforcer06164]

Chardish, I was in contact with eb and I actually figured out that LD or Afro had to be the seer, simply for the fact that they both used "seer'd" in their posts. I searched for it in the thread because it stood out in the PM. Turned out I was right. Why eb didn't say anything about that, I don't know. His "I had no idea" act is complete bull. I'll post the conversation later.

[ImEric12]

Chardish, I was in contact with eb and I actually figured out that LD or Afro had to be the seer, simply for the fact that they both used "seer'd" in their posts. I searched for it in the thread because it stood out in the PM. Turned out I was right. Why eb didn't say anything about that, I don't know. His "I had no idea" act is complete bull. I'll post the conversation later.

He mentioned it while I was talking to him in Maple Story last night, right after I said that LD died.

[Tps222]

ps7910: Do you have that convo saved?
P337 teh 1337: Yeah
P337 teh 1337: WHAT THE HELL I had like the longest post EVER and then my sister exits out of Firefox
Tps7910: shit
Tps7910: that sucks
P337 teh 1337: well
P337 teh 1337: it was about you XD
Tps7910: was it against me
P337 teh 1337: yah
Tps7910:
Tps7910: how old is your sister?
P337 teh 1337: you made tons of errorz in that post
P337 teh 1337: 18
Tps7910: lol
P337 teh 1337: >_>
Tps7910: I did?
P337 teh 1337: yah
Tps7910: exlpaimn
P337 teh 1337: I'll probably redo it and make it shorter
P337 teh 1337: k but I don't really need to 8)
P337 teh 1337: k first
Tps7910: I'm telling you
Tps7910: I'm human
P337 teh 1337: The fact that you're all of a sudden doing this make me pretty sure I'm right
Tps7910: Defending myself?
Tps7910: Thats wolfy
Tps7910: I should just die
P337 teh 1337: first wolves go for sympathy, and then once that fails, then pushing on the fact that they're "just human"
Tps7910: thats the human way
P337 teh 1337: first you were like "I suppose I'll die, meh"
P337 teh 1337: now you're like "I'M HUMAN DAMMIT D:"
Tps7910: No i didnt
P337 teh 1337: it's in the convo rofl
Tps7910: quotes fromy my post
Tps7910: I understand I'm in a bad position, and I wouldn't even believe me if I wasn't me right now.
Tps7910: So, I lasted in this game longer then I thought I would, I'm just glad we nailed one wolf, pending the pyschic report, which I suggest goes to EB, since most of us feel he is human. I pity you all for wasting a day by killing me, but what must be done must be done. As long as the pyschic stays alive, I will recieve my just reward of the frustration of you all.

P337 teh 1337: Oh yeah, that's part of it
Tps7910: I really don't think I can say anything to change your minds, so I am going to throw out my suspect list.

Tps7910: I highly suggest you don't instalynch me, gives time for the pyschic to contact EB, and for some more discussion to go on.


P337 teh 1337: plus you made a GIGANTIC MISTAKE in that first quote
Tps7910: What?
P337 teh 1337: As long as the pyschic stays alive, I will recieve my just reward of the frustration of you all.
Tps7910: Yea so?
P337 teh 1337: What the hell is that, tell me.
Tps7910: Since I'm human
Tps7910: The pyschic will see that
P337 teh 1337: First, you go "at least we nailed Flypie."
Tps7910: And I will laugh at you all
Tps7910: I assume she is human
Tps7910: wolf
Tps7910: I know Vash wasnt
P337 teh 1337: Then you go "HA I'M HUMAN I get to laugh at you when you lose even though it's team based"
P337 teh 1337: Flypie was a wolf, obviously
Tps7910: Well, I am gonna laugh
Tps7910: you will all be like
Tps7910: shit
Tps7910: and I will be
P337 teh 1337: yeah
Tps7910: hahaha
P337 teh 1337: uh
P337 teh 1337: why
P337 teh 1337: >_>
Tps7910: because the sure look you all have
Tps7910: how confident you all are
P337 teh 1337: uh what
Tps7910: I think it will be funnt
Tps7910: You all think I'm a wolf
P337 teh 1337: I'm like the only one that's really pushing on you
P337 teh 1337: what sure look rofl
Tps7910: EB
Tps7910: Omega
P337 teh 1337: uh what rofl
P337 teh 1337: Omega said NOTHING
Tps7910: To you
P337 teh 1337: all he said to me was when I brought up BBQ he said he thinks he's just nub
P337 teh 1337: nothing about you really
Tps7910: He's talked to me
P337 teh 1337: Oh
P337 teh 1337: Heh XD
Tps7910: I know I'm gonna die
Tps7910: So I might as well get a laugh out of it this time
P337 teh 1337: So why are you trying to defend yourself so much?
P337 teh 1337: o.o
Tps7910: Point out where I'm defending myself?
P337 teh 1337: Chardish kind of gave you away at the end of day 1 though, that's when I really got suspicious
P337 teh 1337: oh, like your whole post
Tps7910: You really think you got the MW don't you?
Tps7910: This will make it all the funnier
P337 teh 1337: uh k
Tps7910: I only hope the pyschic contacts someone
Tps7910: I don't want to wait to the post-game to laugh at our losing efforts
P337 teh 1337: I like how you're trying to act like we're screwing ourselves over
Tps7910: You are
Tps7910: no seer
Tps7910: no guardian
Tps7910: Blah never plays]
Tps7910: Killing Vash and I
Tps7910: Both humans
P337 teh 1337: dude, wolves like never get lynched day 1
Tps7910: I did
P337 teh 1337: and I'm pretty damn sure you're a wolf so yeah
P337 teh 1337: I know XD
Tps7910: Think what you want
Tps7910: The more you say that
P337 teh 1337: k
Tps7910: The funnier it will be
P337 teh 1337: k
P337 teh 1337: you're a wolf
P337 teh 1337: you're a wolf
P337 teh 1337: you're a wolf
P337 teh 1337: you're a wolf
P337 teh 1337: you're a wolf
Tps7910: I'm actually thinking about falsely coming out as the MW
P337 teh 1337: died from laughter yet?
P337 teh 1337: uh k
Tps7910: Just for shits and giggles
P337 teh 1337: dude even if you're human and we lynch you we can still win
P337 teh 1337: stop acting like you're all higher than us
Tps7910: No you can't
P337 teh 1337: it's not working
P337 teh 1337: uh yeah we can
Tps7910: It;s not me
Tps7910: It's the wasted day
P337 teh 1337: you're being retarded.
Tps7910: You have no seer
Tps7910: No guardian
Tps7910: You are wasting a day by killing a human
Tps7910: Anyone can be killed
P337 teh 1337: I find no reason to talk to you anymore, honestly
Tps7910: I suspecy EB next
Tps7910: then Chardish
P337 teh 1337: I was trying to get stuff out of you, but now that you're refusing to do anything but pout, there's no point
Tps7910: What do you want out of me
Tps7910: My wolf buddies?
P337 teh 1337: The other wolves
P337 teh 1337: yeah
P337 teh 1337: I think I got them though
Tps7910: Guido and Omega
P337 teh 1337: hah
Tps7910: It's true
P337 teh 1337: yeah
P337 teh 1337: that's why you voted for him 8)
Tps7910: I tried to disasociate myself from them
P337 teh 1337: smart thinking
P337 teh 1337: oh rite
Tps7910: this will prove them innocent
Tps7910: when I die
P337 teh 1337: laffo
Tps7910: sacrifcie


Yup, I'm the MW. Come and lynch me. :)

[Omeganitros]

Wow. danceguy sure is persistent.

[dAnceguy117]

This is pathetic.. I'm talking to Tps right now, and he refuses to do anything but pout. I'll just put some exerpts in here.

Oh, by the way guys.. he's just trying to be silly now. If he is a wolf, Chardish is a wolf.. and I'm pretty sure the other one is BBQ/Deltro. Here's part of the reason why I suspect Chardish. This post is rofl.

I really feel like I'm going to get wolfed tonight if I don't say anything controversial right now. People know I'm smart and people know I'm good at this game, but I've been unusually under the radar recently. Therefore, I feel like I'm the obvious kill tonight.

I'm not confident eb's a wolf anymore, though, mainly because Afro's sure he's not. A wolf wouldn't openly ask known compatriots to defend him. If it's between Tps and Vash I'd rather see Vash dead.

I'm off to McWork.

What. You think you can post next to nothing for the whole day, and then make the deciding vote to save your little wolf buddies? I think not :)

I'll post the earlier convo with Tps sometime later, maybe day 4 or something. It's just basically about who are and aren't wolves based on Tps being a wolf.

[Tps222]

Chardish isn't dumb. Believe us, we would figure that Chardish not getting wolfed would be uber-suspicious, Chardish, is not one of my partners. Keep guessing.

[dAnceguy117]

What, so you're saying if he was one of your partners, you would wolf him right off the bat? That's a load of crap, hah.

oh btw

P337 teh 1337 (1:56:24 PM): thanks for uberdefending Chardish :>
Tps7910 (1:57:16 PM): I had to get back at him
Tps7910 (1:57:21 PM): For when he turned me in
P337 teh 1337 (1:57:21 PM): oic
P337 teh 1337 (1:57:31 PM): that one game
P337 teh 1337 (1:57:38 PM): when he was trying to do the psychic thing?
Tps7910 (1:57:41 PM): What makes it funnier is that were btoh human this time
Tps7910 (1:57:43 PM): Yes
P337 teh 1337 (1:57:52 PM): hah
P337 teh 1337 (1:57:54 PM): rite.

XD I find this all fairly humorous. CAN YOU SAY DEATH SPIRAL VROOOOOOOOOOM

[evilbutterfly]

Just one piece of a long convo danceguy sent me that I didn't entirely read because I'm lazy:

Tps7910 (8:50:16 PM): You humans are silly
Tps7910 (8:50:18 PM): I mean us humans

And TPS, quit urging people to come with me. You're just making it so that I'll die tonight and then even if I DID contact anybody, they'll be cut off from communication. Thank God nobody has listened to you so far. They probably all see how RIDICULOUSLY SUSPICIOUS you are acting and decide that whatever you say sucks and they shouldn't do it. I'd love for people to come to me. I'm assuming we got 1 wolf, but beyond that I don't know. I haven't heard crap from anybody. The psychic hasn't contacted me, first seered person hasn't contacted me, nobody. Hell, the seer wouldn't even come out and tell me who they are. And if you people who might be coming to me make a new freaking screenname just to do it, I'm going to hunt you down and stab you while you sleep. It's annoying and makes me feel like nobody trusts me.

As for TPS, I'm sick and tired of this. Screw my "don't insta it steals time away from us" crap that I always say. Let's get this over with.

[Tps222]

Vote Danceguy117 for MVP. Catching the MW and finding out another wolf. I thought we had it made when we killed the seer and the guardian, looks like i blew it again.

[Afrobean]

I'm really not sure about tps. He doesn't feel like a wolf, even though he sure is acting it. He is more than likely human, but it does seem that tps will be lynched by the end of the day anyway.

That's why I'm putting my vote on dAnceguy*numbers*. His pushing so much on a person who is more than likely human makes him more suspicious than anyone else in my opinion.

[Tps222]

Uh oh, Afro defended me, he must be a wolf as well.

[Tps222]

Quick, Insta me so Blah doesn't get a phantom.

[Afrobean]

Quick, Insta me so Blah doesn't get a phantom.
If we do that, we can wait until the end of day comes closer.

[Omeganitros]

I'm not super convinced TPS is a wolf either. I think he made a mistake, and whether it was a wolf mistake or a human mistake has not been shown.

But for the sake that I'm just dying to know if he's a wolf or not, TPS. Hopefully the psychic will report his findings tommorrow.

[psychic25]

I'm telling you now, I completely forgot their was a MW, or I wouldn't have done it. Do you honestly think I'm clever enough to try and sneak that by you, I didn't even realize it.

This is bull. Yes, I actually do think that you're clever enough to do this. You're smart, and know how to pull this off.

And let's see... the game that Tps was revealed by Chardish, he started freaking out, revealing his wolf buddies in the process. (TWG XV). Although, I do see some differences between that and this. He seems much more like he's on a rampage, although that could just be because he's being accused by humans and not other wolves. However, I've been suspicious of Tps for a while, so I'm probably going to vote him unless he gets instalynched before I can place my vote.

All that aside, I think we can safely assume that Flypie was a wolf. LD backed it up, and since we know he was the real seer and most probably did seer Flypie as a wolf, we shouldn't need the psychic to reveal him/herself yet.

And now, I'm going to see what I can make of the game so far if I assume that Flypie is a wolf.

If Flypie is a wolf, then Vash (http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=32607&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=56) was not, and BBQ/Deltro (http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=32607&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=70) isn't, either.

That's all I can get, based on accusations made by her.

[dAnceguy117]

Damn, you're right, Psychic. Nice catch. Deltro most likely isn't a wolf, although you can't completely count him out. And yes, Flypie was most definitely a wolf.

[chardish]

I'm voting TPS.

It's my guess that he's trying to use reverse psychology to keep us from lynching him, under the logic that "no wolf would come out and admit that he was a wolf."

I can see this as being a worthwhile wolf strategy (at least good for a last-ditch effort to save himself), but I can't see any reason why a human would want to put themselves in that position, especially because it's team victory.

He's also encouraging bandwagoning on a powerful player (Guido) when he even admits he has no proof, hoping that we will all trust his gut. Riiiiiiight.

[Kilgamayan]

I personally question the idea that Tps is a wolf. I've thought about doing what he's doing on more than one occasion, just "for shits and giggles", as he put it. I don't see him as a wolf so much as someone who is going to have as much fun as possible as they're escorted from the building by security.

Though I can't say I'll be distraught if he gets voted off.

I can't bring myself to read all of that War and Peace of an AIM excerpt, but I'm going to go back over the page and a half of happenings that have...well, happened since I was here last and perhaps cast a vote.

[Tps222]

Well, I am going away camping untill late sunday/monay

Remember Guido/Omega/Afro.

Remember.

[nforcer06164]

evilbutterfly87: what would be funny
evilbutterfly87: is if one of the people we suspect is the seer
evilbutterfly87: and I PM the mystery name
evilbutterfly87: and I tell them to seer themselves XD
nforcer06164: yeah XD
nforcer06164: here's an idea.
nforcer06164: analyze the typing style.
nforcer06164: you might be able to figure it out
evilbutterfly87: psh no
nforcer06164: then I will.
nforcer06164: seer'd
nforcer06164: I'm looking for that
evilbutterfly87: huh
nforcer06164: I've got it.
evilbutterfly87: ???
nforcer06164: if you believe LD is not the seer...
nforcer06164: then it's afro.
evilbutterfly87: why's that?
nforcer06164: go back to page 8 and do a page search for "seer'd"
nforcer06164: only LD and afro use the phrase
nforcer06164: I checked back page 3
evilbutterfly87: so?
evilbutterfly87: why search for that?
nforcer06164: it stands out in the PM you got.
nforcer06164: it's a bit unique
nforcer06164: so, I searched for it.
nforcer06164: Afro and LD turn up.
nforcer06164: I bet you, if it's not LD, it's afro.
evilbutterfly87: search everything
nforcer06164: what else can you search?
evilbutterfly87: every page of TWG
evilbutterfly87: or did you?
nforcer06164: I didn't check 1 and 2
nforcer06164: I'll do it now
evilbutterfly87: k
nforcer06164: yup
nforcer06164: only turns up on afro and LD
evilbutterfly87: hmmmmmmmm
nforcer06164: don't mention it to anybody except LD
evilbutterfly87: duh
nforcer06164: #*&# if the wolves figure this out too
evilbutterfly87: XD
evilbutterfly87: nah
nforcer06164: well, it gets us all that closer to the wolves.

eb cannot say he didn't know. I pretty much told him. I knew the victim that night either had to be eb or LD... they were the only outlets for the seer. Unfortunately, LD was the seer... and i had a feeling it was him after I learned what I did from my typing analysis.

I didn't know it was LD. I don't sit and analyze typing styles like some people do. I don't even think about it. He was probably gonna die anyway, so whatever.

I don't know how eb could say that after what I told him. I don't know if he had something to hide or if he was being absent-minded when he posted that.

I'm still convinced that TPS is the master wolf who was trying to hide behind his immunity to the seer. I also think that Guido is possibly another wolf, and TPS was trying to condemn him to disassociate himself. That's just pure speculation for now, however.

For my sake, please do not instalynch TPS, or anyone, unless it's almost day's end. I know I'm not very qualified to say that after the mistake I made yesterday, but I will be on vacation until Wednesday. I don't mind getting one phantom, but two will get me ejected, making it harder for a human win. Just... don't let it happen. =D

[dAnceguy117]

I don't think you get ejected for two phantoms, I think you just get a one game ban after the game's over. Then again, I dunno. I would check the rules thread but I'm too lazy.

[evilbutterfly]

nforcer, we had that convo after I posted that excerpt. That excerpt is where you get the seer'd thing. When I posted it, I wasn't thinking about typing styles and whatnot, I was just backing up what LD had said. When you said that to me, I asked LD a couple times if he was the seer or what, and he continually denied it. I figured he'd come out to me if he was the seer, so I believed him. I didn't figure Afro was special, since he would tell me right away, probably.

And to me, TPS is one of two things. 1) A wolf who is trying to guilt-trip us into not voting for him and make us think he's so pathetic that he has to be human, or 2) A human who has lost his mind. TPS, if you're a wolf, gg you lose. If you're a human, NEVER DO THIS SORT OF THING AGAIN EVER!!! If you're not a wolf, you're distracting us from the real wolves. Causing any sort of commotion that makes us stop worrying about the wolves killing us and more about how stupid someone is acting is 100% retarded. Regardless of your role, you are helping the wolves. Do not do this sort of thing again. It will get you killed, and people will be pissed at you if/when you come up human.

[psychic25]

Hmm... Well, I'll vote for Tps also. You saw my suspicions earlier. Oh, and I think this makes him only one away from instalynch, so BE CAREFUL. I'm voting early because I won't be on for the rest of the day.

Oh, and I'm on vacation Monday through Friday of the coming week, so I need a replacement :P. Sorry.

[deltro300111]

I don't want an IL, or a Phanton, and I won't be home for a while, and I don't know when the day ends >.>... psychic25- j00 r t3h w0lf.

[JurseyRider734]

6 votes on Tps.

One more to insta.

[Omeganitros]

Oh, come on. Someone finish the job, there's no point in waiting it out if there's nothing to talk about.

[Kilgamayan]

Eh, whatever. This isn't going anywhere useful.

Tps to finish the round.

However, given the show he's been putting on, I'm sure at least one of the people voting for Tps is a wolf trying to make themselves look better. Maybe he's a wolf trying to protect Omega like how eb protected LD last game, or maybe dAnceguy's theory about chardish is correct.

On a side note, I move we replace blah with someone. This isn't like him to just completely miss the game, and I don't recall seeing him post anywhere else. Add in the lack of seeing him on AIM, and I think he's gone somewhere.

[JurseyRider734]

It was also his responsibility to sign up for the game. He was also the one that okay'd the 2 phantoms = 1 game ban. He won't get a phantom because of this instalynch, but hopefully he'll be back within in the next 3 days.

[JurseyRider734]

Noise was heard within the dining room.

"I'M A WOLF I'M A WOLF" Tps shouted to everyone.


"What?" said evilbutterfly, danceguy, and psychic.


"That's right, i'm a WOLF, now KILL ME!"


The three deliberated and decided to kill him.

Tps laid on the ground lifeless with blood dripping from his stomach to the floor, forming a small pool.


"Ha, did you hear that?" said danceguy. "Looks like we killed another wolf!"

Afro walked in the room.

"You guys are retarded."

Afro walked out of the room.






It's now Night 4, and Tps has been instalynched. Wolves send me your pick. Remember, the story doesn't relate to roles. All of these insta-lynches are draining my creativity. Night ends at 10:30 Sunday nizzight.

Afrobean
deltro[numbers]
blahblah18
chardish
dAnceguy117
evilbutterfly
GuidoHunter
ImEric12
Kilgamayan
nforcer06164
Omeganitros
Psychic25

[lightdarkness]

chickens of doom (7:37:13 AM): hey
chickens of doom (7:37:20 AM): I'm gonna be at Warped Tour all today
chickens of doom (7:37:32 AM): and I JUST found out last night that I'm gonna be in Pennsylvania from Monday until Wednesday
chickens of doom (7:37:44 AM): so once people wake up, make it known that I'm gonna need a replacement for TWG =\

[JurseyRider734]

People woke up the next morning to find Gandalf missing. A small group of men went into Gandalf's room to find him laying on his bed with a bloody shirt. Apparently, he had slit his wrists up the road and not across the street and killed himself.


"Wow...I wonder what possessed him to do this..." one of the men said.


A note laid on the small coffee table next to his bed.

It read:

"Guys...my life sucks...and Legolas and Aragorn are dead. Something hit me tonight that made me lose all hope and I decided to kill myself because i'm emo. Sorry lol. Love, Gandalf~"


"What the hell." Eomer said.


"Oh well..." commented Eowyn, "I guess the world is better off with less emos."

"You're dumb as hell." said Gimli.




It's now Day 4 and buttfly, the psychic, has been killed. You have until 10PM EDT on Tuesday night to make your votes. There are no remaining blues! Good luck.

Afrobean
deltro[numbers]
blahblah18
chardish
dAnceguy117
GuidoHunter
ImEric12
Kilgamayan
nforcer06164
Omeganitros
Psychic25


EDIT: PS IF YOU GUYS NEED REPLACEMENTS GET THEM YOURSELF BECAUSE I'M NOT GOING TO BE STUCK TRYING TO FIND 4 MORE REPLACEMENTS FOR PEOPLE THAT CAN'T STICK TO COMMITMENTS.

[Omeganitros]

MotherFUCKERS!

Now we'll never know about Tps. I blame Kilgamayan, because...Well, because. He don't seem to be actin' right this game, and...Well, I was gonna say "It would take someone smart like Kilga or Chardish to correctly guess who the psychic was," but all in all, I guess it wouldn't be all that hard to decide evilbutterfly as the guy to die.
But still. Kilgamayan smells funny. Funny like a clown. A wolf clown. Or something.

[Omeganitros]

Oh, and though I'm voting Kilga, I suggest we kill blahblah18, because I was nagging Guido the other day for not posting much, and he pointed out that blah hadn't posted a single thing. We should take care of him now, because the wolves are going to keep anyone with phantoms alive so they can outvote the humans toward the end of the game.

[JurseyRider734]

blah hasn't been online this whole game.


CHEERZ,

J ridah

ps i'm not getting him or anyone else a replacement


you can deal with the bans.

[evilbutterfly]

lol

I guess now I can play MS constantly and not worry about this game anymore.

And for the record: it's really gay when the ones who can't risk dying are the ones who say the most. Either we shut up and the wolves have an easy win, or we continue to speak up and become prime targets. Everybody, stop sitting around and do something, GEEZ!!

[dAnceguy117]

MotherFUCKERS!

QFE. If you hadn't said it I would have.

I'm going to have to say I think Tps was a wolf, for obvious reasons.. but this seriously pisses me off. I really wanted to know, it's been bugging me for awhile.. and now I have to wait 'till the damn postgame.

I don't really feel like Kilga seemed like a wolf yesterday, but he easily could be. I think the major factor that would decide what Kilga is for me would be if the wolves knew eb was the psychic.. but there's no way I could figure that out. I don't really think Deltro is a wolf anymore.. so I'm still really looking for one moire person that really sticks out for me.. and Kilga just doesn't do it.

I still think Chardish is a wolf. He hasn't been posting too much, maybe two posts a day, and they've really all seemed off to me. Combine that with Tps going psycho at me when I brought him up (that reminds me.. I may as well post the convo now), and Chardish really seems fishy right about now.

I do agree, though, that we should kill off blah sometime, or he's really going to become a hinderance.. plus, I don't want him to get banned. I guess if he's not back by day 5, we should lynch him then.

Here's the convo I had with Tps almost immediately after my late vote for him during day 2. I showed this to a few others (LD, eb, and someone else I think XD ) and then they AIM'd him.. which is part of the reason he figured he was dead before day 3 even began. Since it's ass long, and I figure some of you will be too lazy to read it.. I'll bold the really important parts. It's really worth reading the whole thing, though.

Tps7910 (8:27:51 PM): Hey
P337 teh 1337 (8:28:08 PM): Sup
P337 teh 1337 (8:28:12 PM): Master wolf XD
Tps7910 (8:28:18 PM): If I wasn't me, I would surely think I'm a wolf
P337 teh 1337 (8:28:24 PM): yah
Tps7910 (8:28:27 PM): That's some great evidence
Tps7910 (8:28:41 PM): Though, I never even thought of doing that, not sure why.
Tps7910 (8:28:47 PM): as a wolf of course
Tps7910 (8:28:56 PM): I expect to get lynched tommorow
Tps7910 (8:29:08 PM): Lasted longer then I thought.
P337 teh 1337 (8:29:16 PM): Well, even if you're a human, we kind of have to lynch you tomorrow, we can't just leave you alive after that XD
Tps7910 (8:29:21 PM): At least we nailed flypie
P337 teh 1337 (8:29:27 PM): heh
P337 teh 1337 (8:29:50 PM): When I was in jTWG I would be like, "omg u might be human i cant decide >.<"
Tps7910 (8:29:55 PM): I forgot their was a MW
P337 teh 1337 (8:30:02 PM): but I'm more sure of myself now
Tps7910 (8:30:07 PM): Well your wrong
P337 teh 1337 (8:30:16 PM): well it's you're =P
Tps7910 (8:30:27 PM): I 100% gurantee i'm human, but I know I wouldn't believe myself, so I don't blame you
P337 teh 1337 (8:30:30 PM): and whether that's the case or not there's no way I'd let off
Tps7910 (8:30:46 PM): I had an enjoyable game. made some fun posts
P337 teh 1337 (8:30:55 PM): Plus, if I was a wolf, I'd probably be doing exactly what you are right now XD
Tps7910 (8:31:17 PM): Not me
P337 teh 1337 (8:31:21 PM): If you are a human, you should work on acting more humanly
Tps7910 (8:31:23 PM): Check my past games
Tps7910 (8:31:28 PM): I freak out when a wolf
P337 teh 1337 (8:31:30 PM): And even if you're a wolf you should XD
Tps7910 (8:31:36 PM): and don't act suspicious
P337 teh 1337 (8:31:53 PM): Yeah I know but the pushing to be seered thing is too big to be ignored
P337 teh 1337 (8:32:05 PM): Plus I've read through past games, you never did that as a human
Tps7910 (8:32:12 PM): did i as a wolf?
P337 teh 1337 (8:32:21 PM): I couldn't find any with you as a wolf
Tps7910 (8:32:27 PM): VI
P337 teh 1337 (8:32:34 PM): Were you the MW?
Tps7910 (8:32:42 PM): I have never been the MW
P337 teh 1337 (8:32:46 PM): Exactly.
P337 teh 1337 (8:32:47 PM): =P
Tps7910 (8:33:09 PM): Hmm
Tps7910 (8:33:17 PM): Hard evidence to go against
Tps7910 (8:33:27 PM): THough I really wonder who was associated with flypie
Tps7910 (8:33:34 PM): I doubt EB or Ld
P337 teh 1337 (8:33:37 PM): now ay
P337 teh 1337 (8:33:40 PM): no way*
Tps7910 (8:33:49 PM): Hmm
P337 teh 1337 (8:33:51 PM): I still think Chardish is a wolf
Tps7910 (8:33:51 PM): You possibly
Tps7910 (8:33:54 PM): Na
P337 teh 1337 (8:34:01 PM): Na?
Tps7910 (8:34:01 PM): He had too much evidence on Flypie
Tps7910 (8:34:03 PM): Plus
Tps7910 (8:34:12 PM): he was an obvious choice for a kill
Tps7910 (8:34:15 PM): why was he left alive?
Tps7910 (8:34:24 PM): So we would think he is a wolf, and lynch him
Tps7910 (8:34:30 PM): keeping the wolves secretive
Tps7910 (8:34:34 PM): and killing a good player
Tps7910 (8:34:41 PM): What I want to know is wtf os blah
Tps7910 (8:34:51 PM): luckily there was an insta
P337 teh 1337 (8:34:54 PM): yeah
Tps7910 (8:34:54 PM): or he would get a ban
Tps7910 (8:35:12 PM): Just please keep an eye on nforcer and afro for me when I die.
Tps7910 (8:35:20 PM): more afro then nforcer
P337 teh 1337 (8:35:20 PM): I'm planning on asking Jurs to replace him if he gets that close to a ban again, I do not want him to get a ban
P337 teh 1337 (8:35:26 PM): k :p
P337 teh 1337 (8:35:29 PM): hmm
P337 teh 1337 (8:35:33 PM): What do you think of BBQ?
Tps7910 (8:35:41 PM): he asked for a replacement
Tps7910 (8:35:44 PM): I highly doubt it
P337 teh 1337 (8:35:52 PM): What rofl
Tps7910 (8:35:52 PM): unless some great player told him to fake that
Tps7910 (8:36:02 PM): He asked for a replacement at some time
P337 teh 1337 (8:36:08 PM): what if he's a wolf and he actually did lose his connection
Tps7910 (8:36:19 PM): then he's sitting good
P337 teh 1337 (8:36:36 PM): huh?
Tps7910 (8:36:42 PM): Well, if BBQ is a wolf
P337 teh 1337 (8:36:46 PM): Wolves have to be on too XD
Tps7910 (8:36:59 PM): It just sucks
Tps7910 (8:37:04 PM): we have no clue who the other wolf is
P337 teh 1337 (8:37:09 PM): =/
Tps7910 (8:37:11 PM): and were gonna waste a kill on me
Tps7910 (8:37:16 PM): Is their a pyschic?
P337 teh 1337 (8:37:18 PM): yeah
Tps7910 (8:37:25 PM): good
Tps7910 (8:37:30 PM): are you the pyschic?
P337 teh 1337 (8:37:34 PM): nope :/
P337 teh 1337 (8:37:40 PM): plain #$#ing green, as usual
Tps7910 (8:37:44 PM): same
P337 teh 1337 (8:37:49 PM): =P
Tps7910 (8:37:50 PM): but not to you all
Tps7910 (8:37:51 PM): :)
Tps7910 (8:38:04 PM): Now, why send a pm to eb?
P337 teh 1337 (8:38:11 PM): hm?
Tps7910 (8:38:14 PM): To frame me and to put suspicion on ihm?
P337 teh 1337 (8:38:19 PM): Oh, you mean the seer?
P337 teh 1337 (8:38:20 PM): huh?
Tps7910 (8:38:25 PM): Why did only EB get it?
P337 teh 1337 (8:38:28 PM): oh
P337 teh 1337 (8:38:36 PM): because whoever the seer is trusted him
P337 teh 1337 (8:38:40 PM): obviously :p
Tps7910 (8:38:42 PM): why is that?
P337 teh 1337 (8:38:46 PM): hm
P337 teh 1337 (8:38:50 PM): I dunno
P337 teh 1337 (8:38:57 PM): I thought he was a human before that
Tps7910 (8:39:00 PM): I see no reason to trust EB
P337 teh 1337 (8:39:02 PM): I dunno though
Tps7910 (8:39:02 PM): As did I
P337 teh 1337 (8:39:12 PM): Well, don't you trust the seer?
Tps7910 (8:39:16 PM): I trust EB
Tps7910 (8:39:22 PM): But seems as he is getting set up
P337 teh 1337 (8:39:27 PM): Do you trust whoever sent him the PM?
Tps7910 (8:39:37 PM): Well, I don't know who sent it
Tps7910 (8:39:43 PM): So I obviously don't trust them
P337 teh 1337 (8:39:51 PM): Well, do you suspect whoever sent it isn't actually the seer?
Tps7910 (8:40:01 PM): It's possible
P337 teh 1337 (8:40:06 PM): hm
Tps7910 (8:40:08 PM): What if BBQ is the seer
P337 teh 1337 (8:40:10 PM): what makes you say that?
P337 teh 1337 (8:40:18 PM): Do you think he is?
Tps7910 (8:40:21 PM): The nights have been taking long
P337 teh 1337 (8:40:26 PM): True
Tps7910 (8:40:34 PM): I really think there is a great player as a wolf
P337 teh 1337 (8:40:41 PM): You?
P337 teh 1337 (8:40:41 PM): XD
Tps7910 (8:40:44 PM): With enough balls to pull al this off
Tps7910 (8:40:45 PM): No
P337 teh 1337 (8:40:50 PM): oh
Tps7910 (8:41:02 PM): Would I try PM's twice?
P337 teh 1337 (8:41:06 PM): So you're saying you think blah did it?
Tps7910 (8:41:07 PM): I'm not retarded
Tps7910 (8:41:09 PM): No
P337 teh 1337 (8:41:17 PM): well what other great players are left :/
P337 teh 1337 (8:41:24 PM): Kilga?
Tps7910 (8:41:30 PM): Hmm
Tps7910 (8:41:33 PM): Possibly
P337 teh 1337 (8:41:35 PM): he's usually not very involved either way
P337 teh 1337 (8:41:38 PM): I doubt it
Tps7910 (8:42:15 PM): Guido
P337 teh 1337 (8:42:29 PM): Oh yeah, I forgot about him
P337 teh 1337 (8:42:33 PM): he's pretty smart
P337 teh 1337 (8:42:47 PM): What do you think of everyone else?
Tps7910 (8:42:54 PM): Possibly Afro
Tps7910 (8:42:57 PM): Possibly Omega
P337 teh 1337 (8:43:02 PM): What do you think of LD?
Tps7910 (8:43:07 PM): Human
P337 teh 1337 (8:43:09 PM): yeah
P337 teh 1337 (8:43:12 PM): what do you think of Eric?
Tps7910 (8:43:16 PM): Unless
Tps7910 (8:43:18 PM): Ld is a wolf
Tps7910 (8:43:23 PM): and the person who sent the pm is a wolf
Tps7910 (8:43:28 PM): and flypie is human
P337 teh 1337 (8:43:30 PM): I highly doubt that, but it's possible
Tps7910 (8:43:39 PM): Just looking at all the possibilities
P337 teh 1337 (8:43:45 PM): I thought you said at least we nailed Flypie before you died =P
P337 teh 1337 (8:43:59 PM): What about Psychic?
Tps7910 (8:43:59 PM): Before I thought of this possibility
Tps7910 (8:44:07 PM): I don't know about him
P337 teh 1337 (8:44:10 PM): hm
Tps7910 (8:44:16 PM): YOu think I know the wolves or something :)
P337 teh 1337 (8:44:20 PM): =P
P337 teh 1337 (8:44:27 PM): maybe you do XD
Tps7910 (8:44:31 PM): I may
P337 teh 1337 (8:44:35 PM): :O
Tps7910 (8:44:37 PM): Doesnt mean Im a wolf
Tps7910 (8:44:39 PM): :)
P337 teh 1337 (8:44:40 PM): :p
Tps7910 (8:44:49 PM): I like being under the radar
Tps7910 (8:44:50 PM): it's fun
P337 teh 1337 (8:44:52 PM): So who do you think are wolves again?
Tps7910 (8:44:56 PM): Guido
Tps7910 (8:44:59 PM): Omega
Tps7910 (8:45:15 PM): Not sure on anyone else
Tps7910 (8:45:19 PM): Possibly LD
P337 teh 1337 (8:45:24 PM): Didn't you say Afro earlier?
Tps7910 (8:45:25 PM): if Flypie turns up human
P337 teh 1337 (8:45:28 PM): yeah
Tps7910 (8:45:34 PM): I dont think the wolves would do that
P337 teh 1337 (8:45:41 PM): Would do what?
Tps7910 (8:45:44 PM): Because LD would be an immediate target
Tps7910 (8:45:50 PM): Set flypie up to die
P337 teh 1337 (8:45:53 PM): oh yeah
Tps7910 (8:46:01 PM): Unless they knew flypie was the pyschic
Tps7910 (8:46:06 PM): WAit
Tps7910 (8:46:10 PM): Jurs announces that
Tps7910 (8:46:11 PM): scratch that
P337 teh 1337 (8:46:14 PM): yeah, heh
Tps7910 (8:46:16 PM): Guido is my rop list
Tps7910 (8:46:18 PM): top
P337 teh 1337 (8:46:21 PM): ah
P337 teh 1337 (8:46:22 PM): why?
Tps7910 (8:46:24 PM): Afro, yup, I said him
Tps7910 (8:46:31 PM): I don't know
Tps7910 (8:46:35 PM): Gut feelign
Tps7910 (8:46:42 PM): Guido,Afro,Omega
Tps7910 (8:46:49 PM): My will....er list
P337 teh 1337 (8:46:52 PM): Omega?
P337 teh 1337 (8:46:58 PM): And what about the fourth wolf?
Tps7910 (8:47:04 PM): me
Tps7910 (8:47:06 PM): ;)
P337 teh 1337 (8:47:08 PM): :o
Tps7910 (8:47:09 PM): Joking
P337 teh 1337 (8:47:12 PM): I know :p
Tps7910 (8:47:16 PM): Hoping it was Flypie
P337 teh 1337 (8:47:21 PM): yeah
Tps7910 (8:47:41 PM): Or maybe I am just trying to point out targets of interests to us wolves
Tps7910 (8:47:46 PM): Who knows?
P337 teh 1337 (8:47:48 PM): =o
Tps7910 (8:47:49 PM): I do and Jurs does
Tps7910 (8:47:55 PM): :)
Tps7910 (8:48:01 PM): You gonna post this convo?
P337 teh 1337 (8:48:06 PM): probably
Tps7910 (8:48:11 PM): Damn
Tps7910 (8:48:12 PM): I mean
Tps7910 (8:48:15 PM): yay?
P337 teh 1337 (8:48:17 PM): lol
Tps7910 (8:48:23 PM): wolves don't laugh
Tps7910 (8:48:33 PM): They growl
P337 teh 1337 (8:48:35 PM): I might wait and see if I can get a psychic report on you
Tps7910 (8:48:36 PM): and rip you apart
Tps7910 (8:48:41 PM): But then im dead
P337 teh 1337 (8:48:46 PM): uh k
Tps7910 (8:49:00 PM): If I get a psychic report
Tps7910 (8:49:02 PM): then I die
P337 teh 1337 (8:49:10 PM): what lol
Tps7910 (8:49:43 PM): You said you wanted to get a pyschic report on me
Tps7910 (8:49:50 PM): I would have to be dead first
Tps7910 (8:49:57 PM): Silly
P337 teh 1337 (8:50:03 PM): :p
P337 teh 1337 (8:50:04 PM): I know
P337 teh 1337 (8:50:11 PM): I mean I'm assuming you're getting lynched
P337 teh 1337 (8:50:15 PM): if you come up wolf
Tps7910 (8:50:16 PM): You humans are silly
Tps7910 (8:50:18 PM): I mean us humans
P337 teh 1337 (8:50:22 PM): lol
P337 teh 1337 (8:50:36 PM): you've given me a lot of answers 8)
Tps7910 (8:50:41 PM): If I'm a wolf
P337 teh 1337 (8:50:44 PM): yah
Tps7910 (8:51:00 PM): THe other wolves are Chardish and nforcer
P337 teh 1337 (8:51:02 PM): And you realize the MW isn't immune to the psychic :p
P337 teh 1337 (8:51:07 PM): nope, rofl
Tps7910 (8:51:08 PM): If Im human
P337 teh 1337 (8:51:14 PM): you said you suspected nforcer
Tps7910 (8:51:24 PM): throw you off
Tps7910 (8:51:26 PM): duh
P337 teh 1337 (8:51:27 PM): if you're a wolf and Flypie is too, the other wolves are Chardish and BBQ
Tps7910 (8:51:37 PM): Chardisjh isnt
Tps7910 (8:51:46 PM): im out for now
P337 teh 1337 (8:51:48 PM): k
P337 teh 1337 (8:51:54 PM): later wolf : )
Tps7910 (8:51:55 PM): *howls*
Tps7910 signed off at 8:52:00 PM.

Yeah.. I think a couple things I bolded he was joking about.. but you never know. That last thing he says right before he leaves.. "Chardisjh isnt".. he seems like he's so sure. Right when he said that I was like ohsnap.

Make what you want of this convo.. I think it will help us out.

edited because the quote tag at the start didn't work.

[psychic25]

Oh dear.

Well, Omega, I would suggest lynching blahblah if we can't find any prime lynch suspects for today. Agreed, Blah's phantom may hurt the humans later, but it also hurts to purposely lynch a human.

Oh, and this hit a nerve, too.

Tps7910 (8:51:00 PM): THe other wolves are Chardish and nforcer

Oh? Last time EB tried this, LD really was a wolf. I'm willing to bet that Tps was trying something like this, too.

"BUT WAIT!!! THE WOLVES WOULDN'T TRY SOMETHING LIKE THAT AGAIN!!! IT'D BE TOO OBVIOUS!!!"

Actually, I think they would. I'll be watching those two.

Oh, and that thing (http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=32607&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=126) about how Chardish had so much evidence... Most of those were intuitive anyway. Chardish could easily be a wolf- once he sees how the tide is going, I could easily see Chardish putting that out in order to seem like he has a bunch of hard evidence- but really, two of them are about Flypie (and vague at that) and the rest are logical conclusions. Tps is defending Chardish too much for my taste.

So if we assume that Tps was a wolf...

Danceguy (http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=32607&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=33), Eric (http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=32607&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=46), (also for this (http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=32607&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=52)),
Guido (http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=32607&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=103) , Omega, and Afro, (the last three because of Tps's suspicions all through the game, although I'm not too sure about Omega and Afro) are all human. I do think Guido is human, though, because Tps has really been pushing to lynch him since Day 2- a situation that blows up too easily if something goes wrong.

So, if we assume that Danceguy, Eric, Guido, Omega, Afro, and Deltro (from yesterday's post) are all humans, that leaves Blah, Chardish, Kilga, nForcer, and me.

Oh, look. Chardish and nForcer, very possibly our last two wolves.

Right now, though, I'm going to vote for Chardish, for that thing when he saved Tps on Day 1 and the fact that Tps was so gung-ho about defending Chardish with garbage.

Keep an eye on nForcer and Chardish for me while I'm away. With any luck, I'll be back for the end of Day 5.

[deltro300111]

chardish

[00:35] IlIke2SuCKchEeSE: Hey
[00:35] *** Auto-response from evilbutterfly87: around
[00:53] evilbutterfly87: who're you?
[01:02] *** "evilbutterfly87" signed off at Sat Jul 30 01:02:41 2005.
[01:02] *** "evilbutterfly87" signed on at Sat Jul 30 01:02:43 2005.
[01:04] *** "evilbutterfly87" signed off at Sat Jul 30 01:04:23 2005.
[01:04] *** "evilbutterfly87" signed on at Sat Jul 30 01:04:23 2005.
[01:07] *** "evilbutterfly87" signed off at Sat Jul 30 01:07:12 2005.
[01:07] *** "evilbutterfly87" signed on at Sat Jul 30 01:07:18 2005.
[01:07] IlIke2SuCKchEeSE: deltro
[01:07] evilbutterfly87: oic
[01:08] IlIke2SuCKchEeSE: Are you the psychic?
[01:08] evilbutterfly87: wait
[01:08] evilbutterfly87: are you in TWG?
[01:08] IlIke2SuCKchEeSE: Yea
[01:08] IlIke2SuCKchEeSE: I'm replacing OMGWTFBBQ.
[01:08] evilbutterfly87: subbed in for that what's his name guy?
[01:08] evilbutterfly87: oic
[01:08] evilbutterfly87: is there new stuff posted?
[01:08] IlIke2SuCKchEeSE: I posted stuff
[01:08] IlIke2SuCKchEeSE: not really.
[01:08] IlIke2SuCKchEeSE: dunno
[01:08] IlIke2SuCKchEeSE: I just wanted to ask.
[01:08] IlIke2SuCKchEeSE: Are you?
[01:09] evilbutterfly87: And let me ask you one thing first.
[01:09] evilbutterfly87: Do you already think one way or the other on it, and will what I say next affect how you think at all?
[01:10] IlIke2SuCKchEeSE: I think that you are the psychic, and no, not really.
[01:10] evilbutterfly87: Then why even ask?
[01:10] IlIke2SuCKchEeSE: Why would LD contact you if he didn't already know something.
[01:10] evilbutterfly87: Did you not read my posts?
[01:10] IlIke2SuCKchEeSE: Which posts.
[01:10] evilbutterfly87: all of them
[01:10] evilbutterfly87: like the ones before things happened
[01:10] IlIke2SuCKchEeSE: Not really, xD
[01:11] IlIke2SuCKchEeSE: I skimmed the thread.

[psychic25]

what now

Don't instalynch Chardish until the deadline PLEASE. It's six to insta, and there's three votes on him now. I'd like to see who can talk to him and for him to give some input.

Oh, and I forgot to mention- stay suspicious of Blah. It's very possible that his silence could be a wolf tactic, although I doubt it at this point. Let's see what we can make of his replacement.

[Kilgamayan]

deltro, what did that conversation have to do with your vote? If you're going to hop on a bandwagon you should probably put some reasoning on the table for everyone to see, especially at this stage in the game where screwups are amplified.

On the subject of me acting funny, if I've seemed off recently, I chalk it up to being distracted over the past couple of days. Friday was a HUGE day for the company I work for, and Saturday was the same company's company outing day. I haven't had much time or energy to think about this game (which is why I just finished Tps off instead of going back through the thread like I said I would).

I'm in the middle of an IRC TWG as I post, so I'm going to get back to that since it's a little more pressing. >_> But once it's over I'll come back to this and try to present something more than the first line of this post.

[dAnceguy117]

I doubt Blah is a wolf =/ It's possible, though. I'm assuming he's been away from his computer since before roles were handed out. Did he resignup? Maybe he still thought TWG was done for or something, and got drunk off his ass and left town. I'm gonna go check on that.

It's especially important that, if we end up lynching Chardish, please don't insta him until the deadline. It looks like people have stopped caring so much, we have to give them time to post.. plus, Psychic is going to be gone for awhile, we need to give him time to get back and make a day 5 vote.

edit - He never posted in the "Appeal to reason" thread after Tass was banned, and I don't think he even posted in the thread at all. I don't think he's even been on since then, this might not be his fault =/

[Afrobean]

I don't see what's so terrible about Chardish. He hasn't seemed at all like a wolf to me. Sure he hasn't posted as much as others, but if my memory serves, he's never posted a lot in here.

I haven't got any strong suspicions right now. I'll be back later with a vote probably.

[Omeganitros]

It could be both Chardish and Kilgamayan. Oh noes! (Actually, that's not too bad of a theory.)

Kilgamayan, I would like to take this time to apologize for voting for you, and then only backing my reasoning up with "well, he's acting funny," which is ridiculous if you're trying to get others to vote against someone.

GuidoHunter better post soon, or I'll change my vote to him as I promised I would.

[Omeganitros]

Ooh, thought or something.

OmegaNoxim: hmmm
OmegaNoxim: I just thought of somethign.
OmegaNoxim: Listen
ilseruus: what?
ilseruus: k
OmegaNoxim: Do you know if Chardish has been on AIM at any time during TWG?
ilseruus: hmmm
ilseruus: at times
OmegaNoxim: Long periods?
ilseruus: i've seen him around periodically
ilseruus: maybe
ilseruus: i don't really notice :P
OmegaNoxim: And what about bjstrattonIM?
ilseruus: not usually
ilseruus: and if, so, away when i look
ilseruus: as far as I've noticed, at least
OmegaNoxim: Well, if Im thinking ocrrectly...
ilseruus: but i think i see what you're gettin at
ilseruus: *getting
OmegaNoxim: Most people catch wolves during an AIM convo, right? I think the wolves would try a strategy of "If you can't commincate with them, they can't break you." That means minimal times of being available for talking with


It could be a bit of a stretch, but I might be on to something. Does anyone remember anyone not being very active on AIM, but being very or moderately active on the forums?

[Kilgamayan]

Kilgamayan, I would like to take this time to apologize for voting for you, and then only backing my reasoning up with "well, he's acting funny," which is ridiculous if you're trying to get others to vote against someone.

Don't worry about it. I actually welcomed the opportunity to respond to an accusation, even if it was on a very small scale. This game is boring as shit when you're green if (a) you're not a wolf-hunting frontrunner and (b) you're not defending yourself from anything.

I took a look back at Day 1 to examine the early voting histories of flypie and Tps, who I'm assuming are/were wolves at this point. Tps's Day 1 vote was for Eric, who hasn't seemed to do anything out of the ordinary. Dunno what to think about this, but it's probably nothing. flypie, however, voted for BBQ (turned deltro) at a time where voting for someone other than vash or eb was quite irrelevant. psychic pointed this out in a post on Page 12, stating that it meant BBQ/Deltro isn't a wolf assuming flypie was, a theory I disagree with. Voting for a fellow wolf really early on is usually a good way to look like you're not connected to each other.

I know that flypie is notorious for this kind of thing (she did it twice on IRC today alone), but if she's attempting to publicly sever connections with BBQ that's not the best way to do it.

Combine that with deltro's odd (and, at times, nonsensical) behavior, and I'm really starting to get suspicious about him. I'm thinking our wolf lineup is flypie, Tps, BBQ/Deltro, Chardish.

---

AND NOW FOR SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT

Item 1: Is it safe to assume ilseruus is psychic25? I can't be arsed to go back and check the AIM name listing.

Item 2: I could probably get Untouchable to replace blah. While he's has never played here (maybe in jTWG once, I can't remember), he's a veteran of many BemaniStyle games and has played once or twice at a0.com. Any objections? There's also always Flux.

[Omeganitros]

Yeah, that's Psychic.

And Jursey says blah isn't getting a replacement because he didn't ask for one.

[Kilgamayan]

Rawr, suckage. D:

Oh well, Flux isn't responding anyway and Unt went to bed.

[flux_]

I said I'd fill in.

[JurseyRider734]

Flux, you aren't allowed to post in this thread. There has already been someone who has filled in for ImEric. blah didn't request a replacement, so he's not getting one. I know thats mean, but he signed up and should be responsible for this. If something happened that was an emergency or something it may excuse him from the ban.


Last I checked...if you're not playing in this game and you post here, you get a ban.

Kilga? Did you tell him to post?

[GuidoHunter]

Forgive me, Omega, but I won't be making that post I promised today. Amanda threw a wrench in my plans by not taking her computer to Arkansas, so I'm here at a library with a hefty time limitation and I won't be getting online where I'm staying. If the day's still going on tomorrow when I get back and hook up my computer, though, I'll be all over it.

--Guido

http://andy.mikee385.com

[Kilgamayan]

I told him to post to fill in for psychic25, not Eric.

EDIT: But I guess he doesn't need one if he'll be back on Friday.

My fault, sorry.

[chardish]

Guess I have to respond to accusations right off the bat.

No, I haven't been very active on AIM, or in the game. I leave for England in less than 3 weeks and there's a lot I need to get done. Tuesday I was at the arcade with a couple of friends, Wednesday I was up there all day helping them set up and play ITG2 (read the Chit Chat thread for details), Thursday I was in Cincinnati hanging out with a friend, etc. And I work nights, and sometimes I don't even get on the computer until later. So I have been less active, and I haven't had much AIM conversation about this game.

I have enough proof to prove that I'm human, but I know that as soon as I 100% prove myself human, I'm a dead man. Ah well, team victory. Here's all my conversations with LD, who we know 100% was the seer:

Session Start (This Is Chardish:Jay): Sat Jul 23 21:18:47 2005
[21:18] Jay: IM me when ur hoem
[21:18] *** Auto-response sent to Jay: McWork, until Mc9 PM
[21:32] Evan: hi
[21:32] Jay: ok
[21:32] Jay: you got time to talk?
[21:33] Evan: yep
[21:33] Jay: ok
[21:33] Jay: hans... the guardian, has been killed
[21:33] Jay: in TWG
[21:33] Evan: wait
[21:34] Evan: how do you know (why do you think) he's the guardian
[21:34] Jay: It is now Day 1, and HansSky, the guardian, has been killed. You have until 9:30pm EDT on Monday to make your votes. Remember, 2 phantoms = 1 game ban.
[21:34] Jay: jurs adapted kilgs rule from last game
[21:34] Jay: to make it interesting or something, I don't know
[21:35] Jay: regardless, i'm the seer, i've seer'd you, you're human, and i'm hoping to god you aren't the master wolf... but I figure I need someone to help me build an alliance, and since the master wolf is random, and there is only a 6% chance, blah balh balh
[21:35] Evan: didn't know there was a master wolf, but hot damn
[21:35] Evan: i don't care enough about the outcome of the game to be "what if you're lying" and all that
[21:35] Jay: so here's how I thought we could work things
[21:35] Jay: plus i'm not
[21:35] Jay: I seer them, I tell you the results, you contact them
[21:36] Jay: so I stay behind a proxy
[21:36] Evan: sure
[21:36] Evan: that's smart
[21:36] Jay: and who should be my next seering
[21:36] Evan: is master wolf a mark?
[21:36] Jay: no
[21:36] Jay: there isn't a mark cause we went from 18 to 16 players
[21:37] Jay: master wolf was chosen at random when roles went out
[21:37] Jay: I was sure to ask all this XD
[21:37] Evan: haha
[21:38] Jay: so how was mcwork
[21:38] Evan: it blew
[21:39] Jay: why
[21:39] Evan: don't really care to get into it
[21:39] Jay: fair enough
[21:39] Evan: not that it was that bad
[21:40] Jay: just don't want to relive it XD
[21:40] Evan: but i just don't really care to get into it
[21:40] Evan: hehe, yeah

[16:23] Jay: still around?
[18:33] Evan: Hi
[18:33] Evan: TWG
[18:33] Jay: hi
[18:33] Jay: TWG
[18:33] Evan: I think you should seer Flypie tonight
[18:33] Jay: I agree
[18:33] Jay: She called me out today and she said she thought I was blue
[18:33] Evan: Something about her rubs me the wrong way, also
[18:37] Jay: did you see I was saved in BMS TWG?
[18:37] Evan: FFR TWG = only TWG i care about
[18:37] Jay: but still
[18:37] Jay: I got saved :-D
[18:38] Evan: gj
[18:38] Jay: this really sucks though about hans
[18:38] Jay: you or I could easily be killed
[18:38] Jay: there is no reason to keep us around
[18:38] Evan: i suspect i'm going to die.
[18:38] Jay: You better not, cause then i'm gonna have to risk contacting another person
[18:38] Jay: also
[18:39] Jay: if we both survive
[18:39] Jay: and flypie is a wolf
[18:39] Jay: I don't think we should say we've seer'd her
[18:39] Jay: I think we should just try and convince everyone
[18:39] Evan: we could do the ol' anonymous username thing
[18:39] Jay: true
[18:39] Evan: us and kilga are the only mods playing, right?>
[18:39] Jay: but that's soooooo LD
[18:39] Jay: I'm the only one thats ever done it
[18:39] Evan: i did it to fake being the seer in BMS TWG 11 and ended up winning the game


Session Start (This Is Chardish:Jay): Wed Jul 27 00:41:25 2005
[00:41] Jay: Yo
[00:42] Jay: IM ME I HAVE REAL BIG NEWS
[00:46] Jay: WHERE ARE YOUUUUUUUUU
[00:47] Evan: what
[00:47] Jay: twg
[00:47] Jay: You aren't dead
[00:47] Jay: neither am I
[00:48] Evan: and flypie is...
[00:48] Jay: exactly what you thought... you master wolf
[00:48] Jay: I'm pretty pissed you're ratting out your wolves again
[00:48] Evan: she's wolf?
[00:48] Jay: just to win
[00:48] Evan: no, i'm not.
[00:48] Jay: and don't bullshit me, I know you're the master, flypie caved
[00:48] Evan: no, no i'm not.
[00:48] Evan: your stupid little tasselfoot trick doesn't work.
[00:49] Jay: Tasselfoot trick?
[00:49] Evan: "i know you're a wolf" and see how they react
[00:49] Jay: Thats what I did to flypie
[00:49] Jay: then I revealed I was the seer
[00:49] Jay: and I said I knew you were the master
[00:49] Jay: and that I had seerd you
[00:49] Jay: and she admited it
[00:49] Jay: I iknow you won't fall for it
[00:49] Jay: but she did
[00:49] Jay: and now you're both going down
[00:49] Evan: great, now you're boned.
[00:49] Jay: I just can't decide who first
[00:49] Jay: I'm boned?
[00:49] Evan: i'm not a wolf.
[00:49] Jay: Flypie says you are the master
[00:49] Evan: and with the guardian dead you're screwed.
[00:50] Jay: I'm supprised you didn't kill me last night
[00:50] Jay: why not?
[00:50] Evan: flypie's an idiot. what the hell is your problem? you're letting paranoia get involved.
[00:50] Evan: look. you know I never break a promise.
[00:50] Evan: i promise you i'm human.
[00:50] Jay: what about flypies claim?
[00:50] Jay: I know she's a wolf.. why would she lie when I present the evidence?
[00:50] Evan: Why did you tell her you're the seer, though?
[00:51] Evan: Why did you tell her ANYTHING after you found out she was a wolf?
[00:51] Jay: BECAUSE I DIDN'T
[00:51] Jay: I had to see your reaction :-P
[00:51] Evan: Look. I better tell you something.
[00:51] Jay: ?
[00:51] Evan: You tell Flypie you're the seer, and you get wolfed.
[00:51] Evan: Plain as that.
[00:51] Jay: I didn't, and i'm not gonna :-P
[00:52] Evan: So you don't think I'm a wolf.
[00:52] Jay: why, you didn't tell the other wolves that i'm the seer?
[00:52] Jay: Oh no... I know you're a wolf
[00:52] Jay: I just don't know why
[00:52] Jay: you are protecting me
[00:52] Evan: Occam's razor, idiot
[00:52] Jay: pardon?
[00:53] Evan: The simplest explanation is correct.
[00:53] Jay: Uhh... I don't know the simplilest
[00:53] Evan: Seriously, if you honestly think I'm the master wolf, you're letting paranoia destroy you and you deserve to lose.
[00:53] Jay: Ugh, whatever
[00:53] Jay: I had to give it a shot
[00:53] Jay: yea yea yea, I didn't tell her
[00:53] Jay: but yea, she is a wolf
[00:53] Jay: now... here is my plan
[00:54] Evan: 1) Stop being stupid.
[00:54] Evan: Now that we're through with that part
[00:54] Evan: Tell me the rest of your plan.
[00:54] Jay: eb posted a vote for you, and asked for the seer to tell him if the seer has seen chardish
[00:54] Jay: now... he could just want the seer, but here is the plan
[00:54] Jay: Jursey allowed the use of a annomous username, on the forums, to send a pm
[00:54] Jay: so I say, we tell eb not that you are a human
[00:54] Jay: but that flypie is a wolf
[00:54] Jay: get him to start the bandwago
[00:54] Jay: n
[00:54] Evan: yes
[00:54] Jay: we want to protect us
[00:55] Jay: so I need you to write the PM, and I already have an account to send it
[00:55] Evan: sure
[00:55] Jay: but you have to be cryptic, like don'ot capitilize your i's
[00:55] Jay: and don't use correct punctuation

[03:00] Jay: so do I have to write this PM
[03:00] Jay: I'm gonna send it before I go to the dentist tomorrow
[03:00] Evan: gimme the username and password
[03:00] Evan: who am I PMing, and what am I saying?
[03:01] Jay: I'd rather do it, because we can't do it late at night
[03:01] Evan: right
[03:01] Jay: it eliminates so many people
[03:01] Evan: what are we saying?
[03:01] Jay: we are saying that the seer has seer'd flypie and she is a wolf. tell eb he has to say the seer has saw flypie as a wolf
[03:01] Evan: say
[03:01] Evan: THE SEER SAW FLYPIE
[03:01] Evan: SHE IS A WOLF
[03:01] Evan: all caps
[03:02] Evan: gtg
[03:02] Evan: night
Session Close (Jay): Wed Jul 27 03:02:22 2005

Session Start (This Is Chardish:Jay): Wed Jul 27 11:50:31 2005
[11:50] Jay: PM sent
Session Start (This Is Chardish:Jay): Wed Jul 27 23:40:21 2005
[23:40] Jay: the fun has begun
[23:40] Evan: ?
[23:40] Jay: eb posted the info I sent
[23:40] Jay: afro voted flypie, I voted flypie
[23:40] Jay: flypie is calling bs

[01:39] Jay: so here's the deal
[01:39] Jay: eb thinks he knows I'm the seer
[01:39] Jay: and guido says he thinks he see's it too
[01:39] Jay: what i'm thinking... is telling guido that I was seer'd night one
[01:42] Jay: I mean, I knew I wouldn't get far, with flypie calling me a blue so early
[01:43] Evan: heh
[01:43] Jay: so what do you think?
[01:43] Jay: should I tell guido I was seer'd?
[01:43] Evan: i dunno
[01:43] Evan: you're not a likely seer target
[01:43] Jay: fuck yes I am
[01:43] Jay: well
[01:43] Jay: what guido doesn't understand
[01:43] Jay: is why flypie was seer'd
[01:44] Jay: if he knows I pushed it... he'll believe it
[01:44] Evan: right
[01:44] Evan: on to the topic of things that matter

[02:01] Jay: alright, so i'm talking to guido
[02:01] Jay: and I think what we shoudl do, is me publicly say I was seer'd night one, and that it was me that pushed the seer to seer flypioe
[02:01] Jay: because... as it stands now
[02:01] Jay: a lot of people think i'm the seer
[02:01] Jay: and i'm probably going to die
[02:02] Evan: couldn't hurt
[02:02] Jay: so if I do this, not only will people be convinced to vote flypie
[02:02] Jay: but... I MIGHT survive one more night
[02:02] Evan: the wolves don't want me dead cause now people are suspicious of me
[02:02] Jay: Very true
[02:08] Jay: Well... I have a feeling I'm going to be wolfed tonight, as many people think that I am the seer. Since wins are team based, i'm willing to take a hit for the team.

I am not the seer... however, I was seer'd night one. It was my strong suggestion to the seer that made them seer flypie, and obviously she turned up being a wolf. The person who is contacting eb via PM's is really the seer (and supprisingly that wasn't my idea XD). Hopefully by me coming out with this information, the seer will survive another day, because thats all we really have left in this game. I mean, who would've gone after flypie otherwise :-P

If you have any questions, i'll answer them very limitedly, I don't want to give away too much information that might still be important to keep from the wolves.
[02:09] Evan: good post
[02:10] Jay: post'd

[04:39] Evan: you think the psychic will have the common sense to contact you?
[04:39] Evan: i thought it was better not to request it
[04:39] Evan: as that makes you a good death target
[04:40] Evan: but it's quite logical
[04:40] Jay: if I die
[04:40] Evan: "hey, LD was right, better contact him"
[04:40] Jay: use the YourFriendlyFriend account
[04:40] Jay: pass: *******
[04:40] Evan: k
[04:40] Jay: contact eb and gudio, and tell them that you were the one who was actually seer'd night one
[04:40] Jay: cause obviously they'll know when I die that i'm the seer
[04:41] Evan: right
[04:41] Evan: should i reveal that i'm chardish?
[04:42] Jay: no.
[04:42] Jay: well..
[04:42] Jay: use your best judgement
[04:43] Evan: k

Session Start (This Is Chardish:Jay): Thu Jul 28 19:31:19 2005
[19:31] Jay: who should I see
[19:33] Evan: if FFR would load i would give you my advice
[19:33] Jay: server swiiiiitch
[19:36] Evan: you idiot, you're so screwed
[19:36] Evan: you die tonight
[19:36] Evan: brb
[19:37] Jay: Dude, when I presented you with the plan last night, you were gung ho, "go ahead', "good idea!"
[19:39] Evan: when you PM'd using yourfriendlyfriend why did you talk EXACTLY LIKE YOU
[19:39] Evan: instead of all caps
[19:40] Jay: Uhh... it's not that big of a deal
[19:41] Evan: Assuming you survive tonight
[19:41] Evan: How about nforcer for a seeing
[19:41] Evan: He instalynched flypie, knowing she was screwed
[19:41] Evan: and then a second later "oops"
[19:42] Jay: k
[19:52] Evan: gtg work
Session Close (Jay): Thu Jul 28 19:52:35 2005

And that's the last of that. So yeah. I'm human. And I'm voting for deltro, as he is most certainly not.

And I'm probably going to die tonight. Bloody hells.

(EDITED TOPIC TO REMOVE FLYPIE'S REAL NAME, AT HER REQUEST)

[Afrobean]

Those logs do look legit. It wouldn't even be plausible to fake so much...

[deltro300111]

Combine that with deltro's odd (and, at times, nonsensical) behavior,

What the hell are you talking about? It looks like you are just trying to lay blame everywhere now... and since we don't have any worry about lynching a blue role,

Kilgamayan

[dAnceguy117]

Now that I think about it, Kilga makes a very good point. I was suspicious of BBQ to begin with, especially when Tps defended him with BS reasoning in that convo. I figured Psychic was probably right when he pointed out that Flypie voted for him, but there wasn't a very good chance of him getting lynched, even at the time.

Combine that with the completely nonsensical statement he just made about Kilga (laying blame everywhere? He's only accused you, wtf), and I think that constitutes enough for a vote for Deltro.

I'm not really sure what to make of the Chardish convo =/ But I suppose it's legit, I mean it's ass long and it has the timelogs, so sure, why not. I didn't read the whole thing through, I'll go do that now.

btw I've been at Full Blast all day =D

[dAnceguy117]

Uh, guys? We only have nine hours left, what's with the no posting?

[Kilgamayan]

Grah.

Afrobean - Posted recently, but it was a one-liner.

blahblah18 - Gone.

chardish - Posted recently, has laid his vote down.

dAnceguy117 - Hey, that's you!

deltro[numbers] - Posted recently, has laid his vote down.

FishFishRevolution - Haven't seen hide nor hair of him yet. Wouldn't mind at least ONE post.

GuidoHunter - Apparently doesn't have internet access for now.

Kilgamayan - Needs to post more if only to show off his awesome avatar.

nforcer06164 - Vanished without warning and without a trace. Where has he been? o_O

Omeganitros - Been over a day since his last post, but it's not like he's been inactive. Has a vote down.

Psychic25 - Away until Friday. Flux volunteered to fill in but Jurs shot him down.

Hurry up and vote, people. We've only got 5 of 11.

[Afrobean]

This sucks. I really don't think anyone is really a wolf. Some people are a little suspicious, but so was tps and I still believe that he was human. I wish that suspiciousness was a good indicator of wolfdom, but sadly it's not.

Psychic doesn't have any votes, right? I know it's a waste to be doing this so late in the game, but I'd rather do this then vote for someone I believe to be human (which is everyone). Hurry up wolves, do something to give yourself away!

[dAnceguy117]

Speaking of people needing to vote, time for a voting guide.

Kilgamayan - 2 (Omega, Deltro)
Chardish - 1 (Psychic)
Deltro - 2 (Kilga, me omg)
Psychic - 1 (Afro)

ps, what's FishFish's AIM?

[Afrobean]

Fish's AIM name is insanelikeafish. I was talking to him last night. I don't know why he hasn't posted yet.

[FishFishRevolution]

I don't replace ImEric officially until Day 5 according to Jursey, I'm not allowed to post.

[nforcer06164]

But you posted anyway o.o....

OK, I'm back from vacation. Sorry you didn't catch my announcement in my last post, Kilga.

Anyway...

Chardish sold out a fellow wolf (TPS) before, and even photoshopped an image of his conversation to "prove" it. Therefore, I hardly disbelieve that he could make that whole conversation with LD up. Given all the evidence presented, including the danceguy conversation and the "real conversation" Chardish had with Jay, I'm going to have to throw my vote on Chardish.

Sorry I'm not able to contribute anymore than a vote, but since I haven't been here, well, there's not really much else I can do. I still have a feeling Guido is a wolf, though. Just a hunch, after all the times he was mentioned by TPS. I have a feeling he was pulling a reverse-psychology stunt.

[chardish]

Switching off Deltro. I've been reading over his last posts (not here, but also in FFR) and I just think he's a huge idiot. Like seriously. Cessation of brain activity.

Kilgamayan, you always strike me as a wolf, but for some reason you've seemed a bit more wolfish this game. Could it be because your typical wolfish tendency is to use logic against people too stupid to defend themselves? Could it be that you're not afraid to go after power players usually, but you've been hitting targets like vash, deltro, etc.?

Could it be that on Page 4 you tried to sway suspicion from TPS, but now say he's a wolf? With no explanation?

I dunno. But I think you're a better lead than Deltro at the moment, and I'd be happier with you dead.

[Afrobean]

Ok... nforcer, why would you not believe Chardish's humanity? If he were to fake a log, he wouldn't fake so much. There's little to no doubt in my mind that Chardish is human. To throw a vote on Chardish is who is most likely human, makes you seem very suspicious, especially since I have yet to see any evidence against chardish except the fact that he's still alive, which is stupid, because the wolves can just not kill him hoping that we lynch him.

Since I'd rather put my vote to good use and get a wolf, nforcer.

[FishFishRevolution]

I was just IM'd by Jursey, she said I may start posting in Day 4.
--
A few things to support my vote to Kilgamayan. Most of these things are triffle and insubstantial, but put together I think it's more than just reading too far in.

To me, reading over this thread a couple times, Kilga stuck out to me as blending in too perfectly. Like he's gotten so good at human conversation, that he doesn't even come off overly casual, overly wolfish, or overly human. A perfect blend, too perfect.
Then there was the outright rejection of a lot of eb's theories right off the bat. There's always room for skepticism, but I felt like that was a bit too much after enough considerable info was presented (yeah, it all could've been faked, I know). This isn't even itself slightly incriminating, but good to mention.
Also, I was reading over reactions to commrades' deaths in hoping I would find links. I stumbled upon this:
In response to the wolfing of HansSky on page 1.
Holy crap. Well this sucks :<
Exclamation. Statement. Emoticon.

Then after LD was wolfed:
Gah, I was afraid of that. =\
Exclamation. Statement. Emoticon.

Again, it could all be coincidence, but it's more than I have on anyone else right now.

One more thing, this just says "Two down, one to go." to me:
At least the psychic is still alive.

[deltro300111]

Switching off Deltro. I've been reading over his last posts (not here, but also in FFR) and I just think he's a huge idiot. Like seriously. Cessation of brain activity.

Go fuck* yourself.

*EFE

[dAnceguy117]

Guys, I have a pretty strong feeling that Kilga is not a wolf. It's pretty possible, but it's also pretty improbable. It's not like I will refuse to vote for him at all this game, it's just that there's people that definitely seem more suspicious right now.

The main one, of course, is Deltro. I don't think it's so much Deltro's activity as much as BBQ's and Tps' that sets me off, really. Then there's Guido, nforcer (but I doubt it), small chance of Chardish and Kilga, too, but I'm not really worrying about them.

Which brings me to an important question. If we have two of the four wolves lynched, how many more unsuccessful lynchings can we make before the wolves win?

[dAnceguy117]

We have about 40 minutes left. I think we need to finalize who we will be lynching, and insta them so that blah doesn't get another phantom. I believe it's in our best interest if we lynch Deltro, but we should really talk about this. If someone would make a chatroom on AIM or IRC, that'd be great.

[FishFishRevolution]

deltro - Kilga, dAnceguy (2)
Kilga - Omega, deltro, chardish, fish (4)
nforcer - Afrobean (1)
Chardish - nforcer, psychic (2)

[dAnceguy117]

What the hell guys >_<

I guess we'll have to lynch Blah tomorrow.. and it looks like he's getting a ban =/

[Kilgamayan]

Kilgamayan, you always strike me as a wolf, but for some reason you've seemed a bit more wolfish this game. Could it be because your typical wolfish tendency is to use logic against people too stupid to defend themselves? Could it be that you're not afraid to go after power players usually, but you've been hitting targets like vash, deltro, etc.?

I vote for who I see as suspicious. It's hardly my fault that the few veterans in this game haven't piqued my interest much.

- Hans died right off the bat.
- blah hasn't online all game.
- Guido hasn't done much, but he's never a frontrunner.
- There was you, but I think your AIM convo shows otherwise.

I've been a wolf twice in the past. We'll ignore Game 1 since no one had established themselves as a superior player yet. That gives us Game 12.

First round: A vote for Tps. He admittedly does some stupid stuff but he's far from incapable of defending himself.

Second round: A vote for Neonatrias. He's played what, twice? I'd put him on the fence since he never seemed stupid to me but I have a feeling you'll want to pull him onto your side.

Third round: A vote for Eric. Eh, no excuse for that one.

Fourth round: A vote for Hans after talking to LD for a while. Notably, this was a trap set for me to fall into, but they had to set it a second time before I got caught by it. >_>

Fifth round: Largely irrelevant since there was no way I was going to survive it.

Speaking of vash, it's funny how in the opening round you also voted for Vash because you were in favor of him dying over eb. Now you want me dead? Quite the turnaround.

Could it be that on Page 4 you tried to sway suspicion from TPS, but now say he's a wolf? With no explanation?

I was basing that post on the assumption that he was a wolf, because it's entirely possible I'm wrong and he was. I didn't say I thought that myself. And in the end, he was irrelevant, since it was flypie voting for deltro with Tps' vote landing on a less suspicious Eric.

I still don't believe 100% he was a wolf. I know from personal experience the pain of playing game after game as a know-nothing green, so if he was a wolf I SERIOUSLY doubt he would try anything like what he did since he would be ruining the game for himself (and his team - since there are far less wolves than humans, the loss of one is felt a lot more). Plus there was the weirdo PM thing he did in Roasted Chicken. I bet he was just trying to make the game more fun for himself, like last game.

To me, reading over this thread a couple times, Kilga stuck out to me as blending in too perfectly. Like he's gotten so good at human conversation, that he doesn't even come off overly casual, overly wolfish, or overly human. A perfect blend, too perfect.

This sounds like using the "He's been a human so many times he has to be a wolf eventually and I bet this is that game" theory in different wording to me.

And if this results in me getting lynched every game because I come off as "too perfect", I'm going to be supremely annoyed.

Then there was the outright rejection of a lot of eb's theories right off the bat. There's always room for skepticism, but I felt like that was a bit too much after enough considerable info was presented (yeah, it all could've been faked, I know). This isn't even itself slightly incriminating, but good to mention.

I'll go back to take a look at this and respond in a second post. I want to get this one out for people to see first.

In response to the wolfing of HansSky on page 1.

Holy crap. Well this sucks :<

Exclamation. Statement. Emoticon.

Then after LD was wolfed:
Gah, I was afraid of that. =\

Exclamation. Statement. Emoticon.

Again, it could all be coincidence, but it's more than I have on anyone else right now.

Oh, but I used a punctuation mark to end my statement whereas she did not!

Please. This piece of "evidence" is utterly laughable.

EDIT: Fixed quote tags.

[Kilgamayan]

Oh hey I guess the day's over.

bjstrattonIM: I responded to your TWG post.
bjstrattonIM: I don't know when the day ends but I have a vested interest in not dying so I'd appreciate a response. :x
This Is Chardish: Day's already over, it's too late : /

I like how I suddenly got turned on and voted off right before the deadline so I wasn't given a decent chance to defend myself. Thanks a lot.

[JurseyRider734]

Sorry guys...I fell asleep RIGHT before the deadline (yes at 9:30) and just woke up now at 2:30. ;\ Since everyone's probably asleep right now i'll put up the story when I wake up tomorrow, giving the wolves more time.

[JurseyRider734]

"Okay guys...all of our blues are gone. Who's left?"

chardish looked around the room.

"Hey chardish look at me lol", said deltro.

"You're really the dumbest person I've ever known. I hope you die."

Deltro stood there in surprise, and then started to cry.

"Okay...", said chardish, "stop crying. I'll just vote for Kilga...he seems to be too human, and therefore is wolfish."

Meanwhile...

Jursey was being haunted by zombies.

"LET FISH POST YOU STUPID FAGGOT" flypie and LD yelled.

---

Fish decided to make a few posts before the day ended.

"I think Kilga is a wolf, too."

"No i'm not :(" Kilga responded.

"Too late you're dead." replied chardish.

End Day 4.


---

Sorry that this story was pretty much just a useless, rambling, boring story. I don't know, I have problems writing stories when I just wake up, and I didn't want to delay it until the night because then you would all get angry. Besides, I guess the stories don't make THAT much of a difference...the way you play the game does.

Guido has 1 phantom and Blah has 2. If blah doesn't have a good excuse(which I hope he does, and I have a feeling he will) he will get a 1 game ban. You guys can't really be that mad since he's been acting like this the past few games, anyways.

It's Night 5 now so I need the wolf picks, Night 5 ends at 4:30PM EDT Thursday.

Afrobean
deltro
blahblah18
chardish
dAnceguy117
GuidoHunter
FishFish
nforcer06164
Omeganitros
Psychic25

[JurseyRider734]

Okay...there was a deadline for a reason, guys.

I did not get any wolf pick in the last 24 hours, so no one died! Yay!

Now let's make it harder on me by having number orders switched around! woo hoo!

Anywaysssssss...no one got killed so these are the playaZ left:

Afrobean
blahblah18
chardish
dAnceguy117
deltro[con numeros]
GuidoHunter
FishFish
nforcer06164
Omeganitros
Psychic25

You all have until 5:15PM EDT on Saturday to make your votes!~

ps it's day 5 lol

[dAnceguy117]

Well that's kind of weird. I mean it's definitely good and all, but now the list is exactly the same as the last time I saw it, I was hoping to have one less possible wolf =/

Since none of the wolves actually sent in their PMs, I'm thinking this was done on purpose. Why? I haven't the slightest idea.

deltro also looks just as wolfish as before. I still think BBQ gave himself away day 1, and I still think Tps was pulling crap out of his ass when he was defending him. Post, people. There's thingz to discuss.

[chardish]

Hey, remember when Jursey was doing stories based on Lord of the Rings?

That was cool, wasn't it? >: (

[deltro300111]

dAnce <-- omg, defence.

[JurseyRider734]

Hey, remember when Jursey was doing stories based on Lord of the Rings?

That was cool, wasn't it? >: (


Lol.

[dAnceguy117]

dAnce <-- omg, defence.

Hey, nice defense there bud 8) No one will ever strike up enough courage to vote for you now.

[FishFishRevolution]

I think Jursey felt sorry for the humans doing so badly, so she just said no PMs were sent. Not like the wolves can say anything here, or they'd be known!

Right now I'd say deltro's the most suspicious guy we've got, but like Omega said way back, Wolves are smart.

I'm also thinking some of our innactive commrades could attribute to the fact that no wolf PMs were sent.

[dAnceguy117]

I'm also thinking some of our innactive commrades could attribute to the fact that no wolf PMs were sent.

Remember, four wolves to start. One dead, another likely dead. That still leaves at least two, and I think everyone but blah has been on since the end of day 4. Plus, I doubt blah is a wolf.

If anyone knows otherwise, feel free to correct me on this.

[Afrobean]

Wow. Those wolfs really messed up. dAnceguy was talking to me a little bit ago and I think he said that the wolves would win tommorow unless we got a wolf today. That was of course counting on the idea that the wolves would kill someone tonight. This should in theory prolong the game, hopefully long enough to get however many wolves are left.

By the way, I like these types of "stories" better than the Lord of the Rings ones. This way it doesn't matter that Legolis, Gandalf, and Aragorn is dead.

[dAnceguy117]

Afro, I looked over the rules again and noticed I had forgotten that phantoms add on to the total vote count, making the instalynch higher. blah really isn't a hinderance at all, but we can't count him out as a wolf.

[deltro300111]

dAnce <-- omg, defence.

Hey, nice defense there bud 8) No one will ever strike up enough courage to vote for you now.Yea... I don't have any other leads, but I might 'accidentally' forget to check the thread before the end of the day >:) .

[deltro300111]

=o Maybe the wolves are on extended AFK? blahblah18

[Omeganitros]

WHAT the FUCK!?

blahblah18.

[dAnceguy117]

Guys, think about this. Which is more likely, that blah and one / two other INACTIVES (that means HAVEN'T BEEN ON SINCE THE END OF DAY 4) are wolves, or that the wolves are trying to fool us into voting blah?

Then again, this logic seems pretty faulty, saying as how blah's phantoms make him a good target for later in the game.. but maybe they want to do away with him right now. I dunno.

I still want someone to answer this question. Has anyone noticed someone other than blah that hasn't been on since the end of day 4? And if so, who?

[chardish]

I vote that we test the waters by not voting Blah. Since this is team victory, if the wolves give us no kill tomorrow, we vote Blah and win the game (assuming he's the only remaining wolf.) If not, I don't think the wolves can really afford to give up 2 free human kills in a row.

This sounds exactly like the kind of thing Omeganitros would pull. It's goofy.

[Omeganitros]

My reasoning dictates that getting rid of blahblah18 is a perfectly reasonable idea, because (A) he could be a wolf and (B) as I've stated before he has too many phantoms.

Also, I am honored to that you think I would something off like this, because orchestrating something this goofy would be something I would try, if I thought of it.

[Omeganitros]

More food for thought: Every time the wolves kill someone, they give us more information on who they could be. Perhaps they're pulling off some kinda tactic where we can't find out more about them if they stop crossing people off our suspicion list.

[FishFishRevolution]

Chardish, I don't know if you noticed, but we're not on Day 1 here; we can't just waste time by "testing the water."
You're assuming we only have one wolf left?! That's ridiculous, there's almost no doubt in my mind that TPS was human and Kilga wasn't for sure anything! The only thing I can see that would give you such assurity is if you were, or had contact with the psychic or something, but he's dead.
Intitial vote to Chardish, I'll watch and see how things turn out before Day 5 ends.

[nforcer06164]

I think Chardish does have a good point, but also keep in mind that the wolves maybe didn't forget, but just wasn't able to put in the kill before the deadline. It could've been a simple mistake instead of a tactic.

Let's see... deltro voted blah... Omega voted blah... if this was a tactic, and Omega / deltro was a wolf, why would they kill off the wolf that was making their tactic work? Deltro isn't too bright in my opinion, so I could understand him as a wolf voting blah... but Omega? C'mon Chardish, you know he's smarter than that.

I'm going to look back on what was said today, and the remaining players list...

Afrobean - doubt he's a wolf.

blah - hasn't been here. Hasn't been on AIM (that I know of). He's definitely not playing.

chardish - still not sure what the hell happened Day 4. he wanted to "prove" to me that he was human (I forgot to save the AIM conversation), but failed to. Not sure exactly what to think.

dAnceguy - pointed us in very productive directions all game. Always got us closer to wolves (I think). Human.

deltro - I could see him forgetting to send in a kill as a wolf, and voting his "wolf buddy". Plus, his comments today don't sit well with me.

Guido - I STILL think TPS's pointing out of Guido so much early on was to distinguish the two in case something happened. I think he may be a wolf.

FishFishRevolution - who the hell did he replace?

nforcer06164 - I can't opinionate myself. I know what I am. You decide for yourself.

Omega - I'm getting tired of being opinionated. I really don't think he's a wolf, though.

psychic - where the hell are you?

wait...

uh-oh...

I just looked back at what psychic said on Day 4.



Keep an eye on nForcer and Chardish for me while I'm away. With any luck, I'll be back for the end of Day 5.

NOT HERE. We found our last two wolves, guys. psychic and blah.

[ImEric12]

nforcer: fish replaced me.

I'm back, but I don't think I can replace anyone else without screwing up knowledge balance in the game, so Fish can finish it out for me.

[chardish]

Hey, good catch, nforcer. psychic.

[JurseyRider734]

Psychic said he was going to be gone until Friday night or Saturday morning...just incase you guys were wondering and didn't read.

[FishFishRevolution]

So, if we assume that Danceguy, Eric, Guido, Omega, Afro, and Deltro (from yesterday's post) are all humans, that leaves Blah, Chardish, Kilga, nForcer, and me.

Psychic looks good to me. If he's a wolf, we can use that list he provided there as a nice mix of reds and greens. Then again, he may have left a wolf or two out to stay on double reverse-psychology level.

[psychic25]

WHOA WHOA WHOA NICE BANDWAGON GUYS

I agree, this does look very suspicious for me. However...

this also looks like a very intelligent wolf tactic designed to get the humans to lynch two specific players- namely, Blah and me. We're the only ones that have been completely inactive, which brings up the possibility that both of us haven't sent in a PM.

If it looks too easy, it probably is.

I don't think blah is a wolf so much anymore, just because this is so incriminating for him- he easily becomes a lynch target because of this- way too risky.

Chardish seems like he's human. That convo pretty much proves his humanity, at least to me.

Since Kilga, Chardish, Blah, and I are (probably) all humans, the one person left on my list is nForcer.