TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais

[ShadoWolfe]

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais

The irony of this format is that the only hope the wolves have of winning it is exactly that attitude - of Survivors playing individually and not caring about towntelling because they want to live instead of find the wolves.

But if all the survivors have this attitude, no survivors will win.

If Survivors use all the tools in their disposal here, I think over half will win the game.

I'm actually confident in us winning by doing what TWG is all about: reading wolves. I joined a game of survivor, I'd much rather try to survive while hunting wolves than rely on a strat that essentially puts my loss up to chance. Plus, if I wanted to do nothing other than implement an imba strat, I'd just go play a game on epicmafia. Reading skill is also a tool that we have in our disposal, so let's try using it, yes?
Also, you're referring to an imaginary "attitude" that I supposedly have as "wanting to live instead of find the wolves". I've said this before, but we literally cannot win without finding the wolves. That doesn't even need to be stated. There's a big difference between "refusing to commit suicide for a town that doesn't exist" and "refusing to hunt wolves".

TL;DNR: You're getting me totally wrong. My "attitude" is that I want to both liveand find the wolves.

[MixMasterLar]

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais

Hey Shado, Haku answered

You wanna tell us your answer?

[Hakulyte]

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais

I'm aware this game doesn't have 3 wolves and that these reads sucks due to lack of information.

[Tokzic]

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais

Going to sleep. Hope I can wake up to a third gift claim so I can really start getting my teeth into this game.

[MixMasterLar]

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais

sunfan (I was already on him just now)

DBP (slightly over roundbox, but this could change depending of how roundbox continue his game)

Red Blaster over j-rodd based on meta. (I'm willing to believe there's a good chance j-rodd's gift claim is legit because no one else claimed.)

Ew

Just. ... ew

[Hakulyte]

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais

If you knew there was a wolf in sunfan or tokzic, who would you most suspect?

Separate question: If you knew there was a wolf in roundbox or DBP, would you most suspect?

Last question: If you knew there was a wolf in j-rodd or Red Blaster, who would you suspect?

sunfan (I was already on him just now)

DBP (slightly over roundbox, but this could change depending of how roundbox continue his game)

Red Blaster over j-rodd based on meta. (I'm willing to believe there's a good chance j-rodd's gift claim is legit because no one else claimed.)

[MixMasterLar]

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais

I actually think there's 0 wolf here, just very varied perspectives on how to approach this game.

I wouldn't go that far right now

But, the fact this conversation is progressing seriously is nice and pro town so that's good

[Hakulyte]

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais

just kidding.

[Hakulyte]

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais

It's so good, it's like a wolf wrote it~

[Tokzic]

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais

Well, there's two wolves, and I can't see them both implementing the same strategy, so I paired off the players that I couldn't really see as partners.

You and sunfan both went supertown and came up with town-seeming strats that lead to potential martyrdom, and I highly doubt you'd both go that same route as wolfteam, so I'd be willing to grate off a finger if you ended up wolf partners.

I'm null on both DBP (hardly any posts, some content in the few that manifested though) and roundbox (seems like a typical "idgaf" survivor, but again super low postcount so idk). However, roundbox used one of his 12 posts to say he's townreading DBP. I don't think he'd do that if they were both scum. Also, they're currently the two lowest posters, so I don't think they're both scum on the principal that one of em would've stepped it up by now.

j-rodd and Red Blaster was a totally gut pairing just based on similar impressions I've received from them, so I figured I'd throw it in there and see what came back up. They've both posted more than DBP and roundbox, but their actual contributions have been significantly less.

This is actually a way better response than I was expecting.

[Tokzic]

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais

I'm definitely not on best terms with ShadoWolfe with the whole Utilitarism vs playing for yourself ideology.

The irony of this format is that the only hope the wolves have of winning it is exactly that attitude - of Survivors playing individually and not caring about towntelling because they want to live instead of find the wolves.

But if all the survivors have this attitude, no survivors will win.

If Survivors use all the tools in their disposal here, I think over half will win the game.

[ShadoWolfe]

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais

What if I'm curious about what you're curious about.

What is with these pairings? Where did you come up with them?

Well, there's two wolves, and I can't see them both implementing the same strategy, so I paired off the players that I couldn't really see as partners.

You and sunfan both went supertown and came up with town-seeming strats that lead to potential martyrdom, and I highly doubt you'd both go that same route as wolfteam, so I'd be willing to grate off a finger if you ended up wolf partners.

I'm null on both DBP (hardly any posts, some content in the few that manifested though) and roundbox (seems like a typical "idgaf" survivor, but again super low postcount so idk). However, roundbox used one of his 12 posts to say he's townreading DBP. I don't think he'd do that if they were both scum. Also, they're currently the two lowest posters, so I don't think they're both scum on the principal that one of em would've stepped it up by now.

j-rodd and Red Blaster was a totally gut pairing just based on similar impressions I've received from them, so I figured I'd throw it in there and see what came back up. They've both posted more than DBP and roundbox, but their actual contributions have been significantly less.

[Hakulyte]

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais

I'm definitely not on best terms with ShadoWolfe with the whole Utilitarism vs playing for yourself ideology.

I actually think there's 0 wolf here, just very varied perspectives on how to approach this game.

[Hakulyte]

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais

Just go with your feelings or something. I don't think I want to defend myself for how you should read me.

[MixMasterLar]

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais

I would be slightly more cautious than I am right now as a wolf.

That probably doesn't mean much to you tho.

Nope, not an ounce