TWG CLVI: The Grand TWGabout - GAME THREAD

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  • YoshL
    Celestial Harbor
    FFR Simfile Author
    FFR Music Producer
    • Aug 2008
    • 6156

    #1366
    Re: TWG CLVI: The Grand TWGabout - GAME THREAD

    Originally posted by MixMasterLar
    Considering that Gradiant was talking about you re reasons for hating Charu's reactions to Tokzic, my first reaction to this post is one of deflection. Good place to park a vote tho

    I was way far back in the thread, reading everyone's wall of text.

    I don't think you actually gave Charu's post a solid read if you still came to that conclusion.

    Holy shit.
    Win7 for life

    That Is correct.
    (whitespace mostly removed)

    this is why i think MML is rubbing me seriously wrong. I know i'm probably continuing to ring a bell that's been shattered and broken by now, but there's quite honestly no real "contribution" at all. He's making his posts seem massive by padding them with quotes from other people. Like, even then, nothing he's saying is actually saying anything
    "that's a good place to park a vote" - what does this even mean why are you saying this
    "
    "I don't think you actually gave Charu's post a solid read if you still came to that conclusion." - what does this offer up
    "That is correct." - this question isn't even about you

    "Liking the effort Xel put into Charu's post." - good job telling us anything specific, rather than "this looks like he spent time on it so good job"


    Originally posted by Charu
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    • XelNya
      [Kaho]
      FFR Simfile Author
      • Sep 2012
      • 3369

      #1367
      Re: TWG CLVI: The Grand TWGabout - GAME THREAD

      Originally posted by MixMasterLar
      Liking the effort Xel put into Charu's post. Imma be back later but i'm going to start reading from there when I get back
      You better make sure you read that post carefully.

      Especially the first spoiler.

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      • XelNya
        [Kaho]
        FFR Simfile Author
        • Sep 2012
        • 3369

        #1368
        Re: TWG CLVI: The Grand TWGabout - GAME THREAD

        How to describe the first spoiler



        It's explosive.

        /bad joke care not

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        • Xiz
          TWG Chaos
          FFR Simfile Author
          • Feb 2012
          • 3399

          #1369
          Re: TWG CLVI: The Grand TWGabout - GAME THREAD

          Originally posted by XelNya
          If you maybe put this into context of charu soley, I can understand the argument (I disagree with it.) However, I do not know how this screams wolf, because if he REALLY wanted to he could have just merged ALL OF THESE into one fucking post.
          It was a garbage read I made without reading any of charu's work, I've stated that already in my 2nd massive post. After going through I realized how much work it took.

          However, near the end of the day I did consider charu to be neutral and I was considering changing my vote from MML -> Charu, but the one post that made me not vote him was...
          Originally posted by Charu
          Stupid as hell, really wanted to play this shit.

          Whatever, guess I learned something from this.

          Don't reread the game and try to help

          Gotcha everyone, thanks for seeing the error of my ways,.
          Originally posted by Charu
          Suck a dick everyone.
          Originally posted by Xiz
          im no longer on the charu train

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          • Xiz
            TWG Chaos
            FFR Simfile Author
            • Feb 2012
            • 3399

            #1370
            Re: TWG CLVI: The Grand TWGabout - GAME THREAD

            Also

            @XelNya

            Right after my post, tozkic did unvote charu there immediately, so I HAVE to give him towny points for that.
            I'm surprised you didn't really comment on that, unless I missed it?

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            • Xiz
              TWG Chaos
              FFR Simfile Author
              • Feb 2012
              • 3399

              #1371
              Re: TWG CLVI: The Grand TWGabout - GAME THREAD

              Actually... yeah i'm really curious about that. You gave a great analysis on tozkic but left out one of the most crucial elements in regards to tokzic at EOD

              xelnya

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              • inDheart
                Picker @ JAX2
                FFR Simfile Author
                • Aug 2011
                • 505

                #1372
                Re: TWG CLVI: The Grand TWGabout - GAME THREAD

                Originally posted by inDheart
                i'll get this down while it's on my mind: wasn't charu's biggest wolf read AA?
                so i'm not so sure that the train of thought that drove me to post this makes sense to me anymore.

                opening question while i run to the store real quick: the exact "who killed who" in the night isn't something that's already exposed by the text in roundbox's post, correct? i believe that's the way it is but insecure me needs confirmation

                if i'm wrong on this then i'm going to feel reaaaaalllly silly about how i was thinking about this

                and yeah i know they're both dead

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                • inDheart
                  Picker @ JAX2
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  • Aug 2011
                  • 505

                  #1373
                  Re: TWG CLVI: The Grand TWGabout - GAME THREAD

                  by "who killed who" i mean "wolves killed player A", "SK killed player B"

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                  • inDheart
                    Picker @ JAX2
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    • Aug 2011
                    • 505

                    #1374
                    Re: TWG CLVI: The Grand TWGabout - GAME THREAD

                    "any story posted is unrelated to night actions" pretty much answers my question

                    all right, post is go then

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                    • inDheart
                      Picker @ JAX2
                      FFR Simfile Author
                      • Aug 2011
                      • 505

                      #1375
                      Re: TWG CLVI: The Grand TWGabout - GAME THREAD

                      actually screw it. my post had too many assumptions about the setup rolls

                      i say this because night actions have the potential to confound whatever i'd want to parse out of who killed AA vs. arnt - what i wanted to say was kind of riding on those being the people that the killing roles actually intended to kill

                      just gonna sleuth the wagons instead

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                      • inDheart
                        Picker @ JAX2
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        • Aug 2011
                        • 505

                        #1376
                        Re: TWG CLVI: The Grand TWGabout - GAME THREAD

                        Originally posted by Xiz
                        Right after my post, tozkic did unvote charu there immediately, so I HAVE to give him towny points for that.
                        I'm surprised you didn't really comment on that, unless I missed it?
                        well maybe tokz can answer this but he quoted charu, not you

                        so unless he was spamming that refresh key on the reply page seeing where the wagons were going, he could just be responding to the same post you did

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                        • _Zenith_
                          Accuracy Player
                          • Mar 2011
                          • 4629

                          #1377
                          Re: TWG CLVI: The Grand TWGabout - GAME THREAD

                          Originally posted by inDheart
                          actually screw it. my post had too many assumptions about the setup rolls

                          i say this because night actions have the potential to confound whatever i'd want to parse out of who killed AA vs. arnt - what i wanted to say was kind of riding on those being the people that the killing roles actually intended to kill

                          just gonna sleuth the wagons instead
                          This is too unsettling imo





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                          • XelNya
                            [Kaho]
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            • Sep 2012
                            • 3369

                            #1378
                            Re: TWG CLVI: The Grand TWGabout - GAME THREAD

                            Originally posted by Xiz
                            Actually... yeah i'm really curious about that. You gave a great analysis on tozkic but left out one of the most crucial elements in regards to tokzic at EOD

                            xelnya
                            I'll adress you when I get home.

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                            • inDheart
                              Picker @ JAX2
                              FFR Simfile Author
                              • Aug 2011
                              • 505

                              #1379
                              Re: TWG CLVI: The Grand TWGabout - GAME THREAD

                              Originally posted by _Zenith_
                              This is too unsettling imo
                              i mean i can still say what i had at least, because let's say they were the intended targets

                              i'll start with the premise that wolves killed AA - why would they want to do that? charu was seemingly the biggest AA hater by the end, but town killed charu, and charu told us to read his posts. many others of us saw AA as null, perhaps town-sided, see: island, yoshl, mml, xel ft. zenith (there are others saying similar things - mashi and sunfan did - but sunfan basically followed that up by saying all his reads were bad). gradiant is a pretty notable exception to that.

                              wolves know AA isn't one of them, and also know the balance of town's opinion seems to mark AA as not definitively wolfy.

                              what makes this interesting is that AA was the other wagon. all else equal, it would have to be on AA himself to stop the wagon from riding again. this ought to be unattractive to the wolves - why slow down and off him if town can take care of him the next day? that's why i have a little more trouble seeing AA as the wolf kill.

                              arnt, otoh, lacked as much warmth, with people reading him null to scum lean in those very same posts above (and here's mashi feeling scum as well). the posts quoted here and the following exchange didn't exactly inspire confidence in gradiant or zenith, who both voted for him. but arnt never really swung as much as yesterday's favorites did. kill motivation (for either team honestly) here might be that there just weren't as strong feelings for him over others.

                              tl;dr i feel like wolves killed arnt and SK killed AA, but i'm trying too hard to understand this like a vanilla game when it's not

                              the goal of my thinking like this was to see whether any potential SK/wolves would be particularly inclined to make either of these kills. i'm about to finish up rereading charu's posts and look at eod0 more closely, so we'll see

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                              • YoshL
                                Celestial Harbor
                                FFR Simfile Author
                                FFR Music Producer
                                • Aug 2008
                                • 6156

                                #1380
                                Re: TWG CLVI: The Grand TWGabout - GAME THREAD

                                there's always the x factor of roleblocker or doctor or w/e is in the setup landing, but that's a little bit of a far reach for now given the amount of information that we have right now


                                Originally posted by Charu
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