TWG XCIV: Old Blood

[j-rodd123]

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breaking my post up because i'm too tired to essay it up again, but you'll still get all of the goooood details.

i belive owa's claim right now, even though zoshi would've been a much better target. i'm really hoping he didn't waste it on james (on my villager list) and used it on someone such as freaky/gun. assuming you are telling the truth one of these players being cleared (taken with a grain of salt) really does mean a lot, so i would like you to share your target please. I'm assuming you're trying to watch people target your known villager, but it would probably be even more beneficial to look at the day 1 info around that

[freakysnots]

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I've defended myself adequately. If you continue to push a bandwagon on me, it just shows how much of a wolf you really are. Let's not tunnelvision on this. owa did something weird earlier and left the thread. Also there is kraut's voting patterns. I was going to point out suspicions on the people that bounced over to kraut as soon as he was modkilled even though zoshi was the vote lead. There are a lot of things that has happened and you are fixating on me for with no solid logic.

Give some of your thoughts about the rest of the game.

[j-rodd123]

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V is playing very strong as usual. the only thing 'questionable' he did, was go hard for kraut after the modkill was announced. however manti did this in a more irritating manner, although recently i've been seeing manti play this less involved early phase human role

[j-rodd123]

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actually before i continue, freaky-is V your #1 wolf candidate, or are you just voting emotionally?

[freakysnots]

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im voting to prevent a bandwagon on myself. and also he is an idiot or a wolf

[freakysnots]

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and im pissed off

[freakysnots]

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We can have a second voting pool of who we want vigi'd. Wolves doesn't have anything to guard themselves. This will essentially give us two votes per phase. I forgot to think about this day 1.

I vote zoshi gets vigi'd

[freakysnots]

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I'm down for a Freaky or Owa lynch. Leaning a little more towards Freaky just in case Owa is just a horribly confused seer. Not sure wether it might be better to lynch a horribly confused possible one shot seer with no more seers left though...

Leaning towards me and have a vote on owa? If you have the balls to accuse me of something, then have the balls to put a vote behind your accusation.

[freakysnots]

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Actually owa is the one-shot seer. Since there is a mw in the game, there has to be a seer in the game (right?). No way wolves would drop another teammate to get rid of the real seer. We don't need the seer to figure out who the last wolf is, so it is not a good trade.

Owa revealing who the green right now is pointless, but he should reveal him during twilight. Doing so would get that person or himself killed, but I suggest if there is a guard in the game, protect OWA since it is entirely likely he pretended to be the one-shot seer so wolves would not target him and he is the actual seer.

Since we have a seer and someone that can prevent kills from happening, I doubt there is a vigi or a sk. If we agree on who to kill, and if there is a SK that is trying to pretend he is vigi, we can use his kills to target who we want.

I'm not sure who to lynch right now and I don't want to qintuplepost anymore so someone else can start saying things.

[Viccica]

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Freaky.

OWA put up a pretty well-articulated message that actually makes sense. It's been discounted primarily because of her sloppy play earlier. There's no feasible way that she would lie in her situation, there was no need to do so.

There was a master wolf, and so there must be a seer. There have been no counterclaims.

Apart from that, there may also be a guard. I find it unlikely wolves would have failed to send in a night kill.

[freakysnots]

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i hate everyone whose name starts with v

[Vendetta21]

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There was a master wolf, and so there must be a seer. There have been no counterclaims.

This is false: the existence of a masterwolf does not indicate anything about the type or distribution of roles except that we should exclude those circumstances where the masterwolf has been replaced by a wolf roleblocker (very few.)

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=C9%2B%2B

read it

[freakysnots]

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Bolded for emphasis

We can have a second voting pool of who we want vigi'd. Wolves doesn't have anything to guard themselves. This will essentially give us two votes per phase. I forgot to think about this day 1. This will also let us know if the double night kills are done by a vigi or the SK.

This is because if the SK pretends to be vigi, and we select the target as him, he will have no choice but to kill someone else. At this point, the vigi/SK will be wolfed. If he is not wolfed, we will lynch him. Vigi is useless to us at that point and this will weed out who the SK is. Win/win.

[Vendetta21]

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also i just realized

Pregame you must choose to be either Investigation Immune or 1-Shot Bulletproof.

Serial Killer could have decided to be bulletproof, which is another potential explanation for the lack of a death.

Also worth noting is that if we have a guardian, that guardian is forevermore useless because they have saved someone. We should hope we have a roleblocker, because their ability to save people never expires and just has to focus on a narrower pool.

Truth is, trying to guess why no one died is white noise at this point.

[freakysnots]

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not getting anything off of kraut's voting patterns, but it seems like he bounced his votes around humans as soon as the person he was targeting was getting bandwagonned on. i can verify this since i'm a human.

i think sytho isnt really bs right now just based on kraut's votes. i still think lynching zoshi would give us more information. but tps is a pretty good dude to lynch.