TWG XXIII: Assault on France! Victor E. to Humans!

[lightdarkness]

Kilga

[mead1]

So the group debated at their table. They did this for several hours. Tempers flared, and bowels swelled. The whole place stank of sweat and rotten carrotts.

eb: ok guys, I think I'll lead you all because nobody loves me.

Several whispers: What a douche.

eb: shut up! I just want to know people...

Intercom: Gentlemen, we are being fired upon by an unseen vessel. Mimepedos will connect in 4.5 minutes.

All: O SHI!

eb: ok guys, this sounds like a job for Jenkins. He's always cannon fodder.

Tass: Dude, we don't have a Jenkins on board.

eb: oh but we can! *He points at kilga* You are now Jenkins.

Kilga : OH KNOES

The group then proceeded to load kilga into their own torpedo bay, and fired him at the mimepedo. Kilga was inattentive mostly, so it wasn't a hard thing to do. Kilga flew out of the bay, and saw a mime strapped with C4 headed directly at him. Unfortunately, under water kilga's vision was blurred. He thought he saw a shape vaguely resembling Roll. He then tried desperately to copulate with it. The mime, a little put off by kilga humping his head underwater, detonated himself, a fair distance away from the ship.

All: What a way to die.

It is now Night 2 send in pms

[mead1]

For their last night before arrival, everyone played D&D, and drank copious amounts of intoxicating beverages. They all wandered off to bed around midnight. Blahblah was standing on deck, gazing vacantly off into the horizon. He wondered if he would ever see his homeland of CHARDISHGRAD again...

He laid down on a bench, and decided to spend the night in the open air. He saw a gleam in the corner of his eye, but was far too slow to do anything about it.

The next morning they blah, alive in what appeared to be an invisible cube. He was hammering and screaming, but the couldn't hear him, just watch in morbid interest. The cube was shrinking. Blah was hunching over, then curling up. As though the walls were closing in on him. The square mass of flesh kept getting smaller and smaller, totally defying the law of conservation of matter, until it could fit in the palm of the hand.

Tass walked over and picked it up

Tass: Hey, new d6

And dropped it into his pocket.

Everyone else: Now that is freaking gross.

They hit land about a half an hour later, and started their march towards the heart of France. Discussing who should be the next to go as they did.

Players left:

FishFishRevolution
Tasselfoot
nickadeemus
nforcer06164
dAnceguy117
Afrobean
talisman
lightdarkness
Tps222
GuidoHunter
HansSky
QreepyBORIS
evilbutterfly

Day 2 has commenced, and will end Tuesdayy at 8:00 pm EST.

[FishFishRevolution]

FishFishRevolution: Tps has pointed something out to me. Fish isn't being helpful like he has in recent games. In fact, he's never even been a wolf in TWG.

Shut the hell up TPS, I've been just as helpful this game, if not more helpful, than any other game I've played. You're taking things out of no where, just like you did yesterday in the chat. You're just making up things that are either half-truths (could easily be argued either way) or things that are just PLAIN WRONG. Did you miss my research on Kilga? Did you miss my giant list of suspicions? Did you miss my posting chat logs so everyone would be on the same page? Did you miss my objection to eb revealing the pair that had not come forth and everyone afterwards going "Yes, I agree with Fish."

Hold on, let me get some of that BS TPS was cooking up in the chatroom yesterday, brb.

[Afrobean]

Thanks for not killing me or my butt buddy.

Also, thanks for killing someone I was tossing around the idea of him being a wolf.

Even if he really was a wolf that's one less wolf that we need to lynch.

[FishFishRevolution]

TPS: Kilga's votes on him are retarded.
TPS: He gets voted for trying.
TPS: What the hell is that.
QreepyBORIS: Okay, I'm gonna vote
QreepyBORIS: For someone.
TPS: He was pissed off before
QreepyBORIS: It will be bandwagon
QreepyBORIS: And I am sorry.
TPS: Because he had that uber important essay report thing
TPS: and you were all bugging him.
Afrobean 2: Kilga's first post seemed off, but he seems more ok now
TPS: I'm pretty sure he enjoys playing this game.
TPS: But, he has 3 votes on him.,
Afrobean 2: 3 votes are not warranted
Afrobean 2: maybe one is warranted, but not 3

Let's start it off with sucking up to the person that is in most danger of being lynched.

TPS: Now, Blah,
TPS: I don't think he is a wolf.
Afrobean 2: I don't see the big deal about blah either
TPS: I doubt he would suggest such a risky plan that openly.
7:50 PM
Afrobean 2: maybe, but I don't see how he is
danceguy: But there's always that chance
TPS: Especially day 1
danceguy: Yeah, I don't know either
Afrobean 2: he seems more human to me
TPS: He would gain nothing
TPS: anf lose everything.
danceguy: How does he usually play as a wolf?
Afrobean 2: tps
TPS: What?
Afrobean 2: if I were you I wouldn't talk about risking everything to gain nothing
danceguy: agahaha
TPS: Oh well.
Afrobean 2: that's what got you lynched before, remember?
TPS: Yea.
TPS: But Blah is smarter than me.

Next he dismisses the guy with the craziest plan. Not a big deal, his explanation as to why it makes him look human I agree with.

TPS: Next, nForcer.
Afrobean 2: I wouldn't say that for sure... but he definitely is better at playign this game
TPS: He has been very contributive this game, I would rather keep him along.
Afrobean 2: welll... in surviving the game
Afrobean 2: nforcer... he's the one that voted for me, right?
TPS: Yea.
Afrobean 2: his vote seemed kind of forced
danceguy: Tps, what exactly are you trying to do by defending everyone that's been mentioned aside from LD?
Afrobean 2: liek he was looking for someting to vote for
TPS: You have given me weird vibes, but I want to hold off on you.

Now he wants to keep nforcer around be contributing so much. Hey TPS, was that your wolf on page 1? Distance voting? Damage control? Throw him in the mix of those you speak about with other people you know are human because you're really a wolf?

TPS: That leaves Ld.

Well of course, you've covered three people now, LD is the last possible choice.

Afrobean 2: but humans do it too, so that doesn't mean anything
TPS: I'm trying to organize everyones thoughts.
FishFishRevolution: or CONTROL everyone's thoughts
danceguy: More like trying to tell us what to think.
Afrobean 2: dAnce, talk of this kind can only help
TPS: LD was voted on by Nick, seems as a revenge, dunno his style.
danceguy: Exactly what I was thinking.
danceguy: I know that
danceguy: But his talking seems to be extensively one dimensional.
TPS: I voted on him for mainly because his playing sty;es were similar to other games.
Afrobean 2: who's is onedimensional?
danceguy: Tps'
FishFishRevolution: personally, I think TPS is a wolf covering for a couple of suspected people and one suspected wolf
Afrobean 2: that sounds reasonable too
TPS: Yes, that is what I am doing.
Afrobean 2: but Tps usually goes lightly as a wolf
Afrobean 2: and eb reported him as suggesting openly coming out with pairs
FishFishRevolution: usually he's tps

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that the very reason TPS is such a good player, is because he's hard to read, and you never know WHEN he's just being human TPS or wolf TPS?

TPS: Guido has been super inactive,
Afrobean 2: which is something I think he'd try as a human and not as a wolf
TPS: Very wolfy of him.
TPS: AS he usually is as a wolf.
Afrobean 2: are you being sarcastic?
FishFishRevolution: x-men he was rather inactive
QreepyBORIS: Guido uh
QreepyBORIS: Isn;'t susually THAT active.
FishFishRevolution: he was human then
Afrobean 2: Guido saves stuff up
Afrobean 2: he might not post a lot, but he posts good when he does

He went on about this Guido thing later, which had already been answered. I don't know what that's about, but it wouldn't surprise me if TPS and Guido both turned up red.

8:30 PM
TPS: Now, of Guido?
TPS: Is he always a bit innactive?
FishFishRevolution: not really
FishFishRevolution: we all ready said this
FishFishRevolution: he isn't usually super active
FishFishRevolution: he saves himself

I don't like to vote early, so I will wait for a bit to see what you have to say for yourself.

[talisman]

someone fill me in on all that craziness that happened at the end of day one... I go to dinner and then all of a sudden random votes for hans start coming in out of nowhere. What was going on in the chat?

[Afrobean]

By the way, in case I forgot to PM anyone somehow, this is the PM I mass sent a few hours ago.

Mass PM is because I was going to post one of these, but I didn't have enough time to. I would wait until day 2, but myself or hans will die tonight, and I'd rather not risk it.

1. FishFishRevolution: Tps has pointed something out to me. Fish isn't being helpful like he has in recent games. In fact, he's never even been a wolf in TWG.
   
2. Tasselfoot: Followed along with blah's plan. Out of character for him since he always leads, even as a red.
   
3. nickadeemus: I still think this guy's a wolf. Check his first post and anyone with a decent wolf sniffing ability should be able to see why.
   
4. nforcer06164: Defended nick against as strong of an attack as can be justified on day 1. My vote for nick was totally within reason, yet nforcer voted for me anyway. Could go either way, really.
   
5. dAnceguy117: Said something that made me a bit suspicious of him. His not being sure of who to vote for is something that strikes me quite frequently as a wolf. He likely didn't want to vote for a human and have that human come back human later. I go through the same thought process. I usually end up with my vote on someone I don't think will get lynched, much as dAnce did with nforcer.
   
6. mattc16: Dead mother trucker.
   
7. Kilgamayan: Seemed a bit suspicious from his "I'm out of the loop" comment. I suppose it is irrelevent now since he's dead.
   
8. Afrobean: Human
   
9. talisman: i dunno lol. Hasn't stuck out one way or the other either.
   
10. lightdarkness: I'm not sure what to think. He could have helped save Hans to look human, but he actually could have done it because it's always better to lynch a possible wolf than a known human and let the known human get the wolfing the next night.
    
11. Tps222: Followed along with the "let's lynch hans for no reason plan" even though he apparently was not involved with planning it. That's a bit strange. Then while I was typing this he IM'd me and told me he accepted me as human. Then he refused to share why he thought 5 different people were human. That's extremely strange. In fact, he says he hasn't even told eb what this info that proves humanity is.
    
12. GuidoHunter: Not much of an opinion. Hasn't really stuck out at all one way or the other.
    
13. HansSky: Human.
    
14. QreepyBORIS: Not much of an opinion. Hasn't really stuck out at all one way or the other.
    
15. evilbutterfly: Lone green. Hopefully. However, if he's not, he does deserve the win. A risk like faking the lone green on a 1/12 is definitely worthy of win.
    
16. blahblah18: His plan to lynch hans bother'd me, but he's been known to do the same thing as a human, so this is no indication of his role.

Realistically, it could easily be the ones who "don't stick out one way or the other" that are the wolves.

Also, take note, LD, I'm throwing a vote on nick again.

PS

What was going on in the chat?

Nothing was. All the people voting for Hans did so for no justifiable reason.

Oh, by the way, I never formally came out in the thread, but I did in the chat. Hans is my partner.

[blahblah18]

yeah, I figured I'd be dead.
P-sizzle

[talisman]

so it was like "hey guys let's all vote for hans now LOL" There had to be some idea behind it... I thought it was pretty clear that hans was (is) human. He doesn't make votes like he did on kilga when he's a wolf. guess it's still a possibility but whatever.

[FishFishRevolution]

Explanation

[evilbutterfly]

Before I even try and figure anything out, let me say this, and say it loud/big enough that you can all hear/see it:

DO NOT FUCKING SWING VOTES AT THE END OF THE DAY WITHOUT RUNNING IT BY ME FIRST. IF YOU SWING VOTES AND SUDDENLY KILL THE GUARDIAN AT THE END OF THE DAY JUST BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T CONSULT ME FIRST I WILL FUCKING QUIT THE GAME IMMEDIATELY AND GET PHANTOMED OUT.

I suspect blah was behind it, since he's done that sort of thing before (and pretty much always lynched humans, IIRC), and now that he's dead we shouldn't have to worry about it, but still, do not freaking do that. PM me or IM me, I don't care. If I'm away, IM me anyway, in all caps, saying you're gonna swing votes on someone. And if I explicitly say no, don't do it.

Also, now that I've actually read (or at least closely-ish skimmed) TPS's anti-LD post, I would just like to say: wtf. How does that show LD being a wolf at all? You're like "look he goes to the leader!!" Also, like 4-5 of the quotes were from that game right before I got Tass banned (lol) where I was pissed and "revealed" LD as a wolf partner of mine in an attempt to throw everybody off. If you were a human and a dying wolf said you were his partner, I assure you that you wouldn't react normally at all. I read those quotes and laughed about that game, and I don't see how anything that happened there could show LD's normal behavior AT ALL. So even if there was some correlation (and there wasn't) it's pretty much a moot point due to the circumstances.

TPS, you're really bothering me. Stop that.

[nforcer06164]

Afro, my vote on you was very forced. It surfaced from a combination of both my aggravation over inactivity and the need to find someone to place a vote on. I have no intention of making a rollover after everything I know. Now I'm sturdily against voting for Afro. I know Afro's not stupid enough to think that declaring Hans as human would sway votes, nor do I think that he would be stupid enough as to, as a wolf, name his partner in such a case. I'm heavily towards human for afro and hans.

I think the kill was really just a random stab at a power player, for several reasons:
1) eb was almost undoubtedly being guarded.
2) There was a 10/12 chance of hitting one of the remaining mason pairs (bonus if guardian).
3) No amount of reverse psychology could convince the wolves to go after eb or afro/hans at risk of meeting a guarding. Too risky.

So, since the wolves can almost make a clean kill every night with the strategy we're playing with, I think it's safe to say blah was human (watch them $*%^ with this theory now by killing a wolf just to spite me when the night 3 report rolls around =/ ). What really confuses me though, is this: why would the wolves take out blah when his suspicious idea was almost enough to get him lynched? It seems unpractical; why not go for Tass or Talisman, who had been much more contibutory and a lot less suspicious? I'll need to think on it a little bit more, but I have the feeling it will get me no further than nowhere.

[FishFishRevolution]

Because if blah was human, his idea WOULDN'T have gotten him lynched. It's a good idea, it's a good way to be able to nail a wolf on day 1.

I really don't like this innactivity guys =/

[talisman]

nforcer a better question is why didn't they kill one of afro or hans?

answer: to frame them, or because they thought that blah was matt's partner, or because they thought blah was the guardian.