TWG CLVI: The Grand TWGabout - GAME THREAD

[Wineandbread]

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2-page blocks, that shouldn't be so bad for post length right?

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@Machi (1348) If you feel the scums are inactive, why post the bit about fake effort through long synopses? It seems contradictory to me.

I don't agree that the scum are all inactive in any case. I think there is at least one active, and he/she is playing well. (gut)

@Xel (1352) I don't think it's that out of ordinary to notice your vote shift for the kitb. He posted the vote at 9:17pm, and 9:23pm you make the shift. You make one post prior and you didn't address his post, which made me believe you were simply catching up.

idk why I'm trying to defend him though I still didn't like it lol

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@MML (1364) By deflection you mean from myself? I don't think anyone ever tries to dig their own hole for themselves in this game. Of course I'm going to consider other people. Kind of a derpy post in general.

@Xiz (1369) What exactly about that post made you not vote him? I don't really understand your reasoning there. That kind of reaction was what made me vote for him.

@inDheart (1375) The most basic assumption is to say SK on AA and wolves on Arnt I think. Arnt doesn't really require any lengthy analysis I think.. Even though he garnered some votes, he was not among the top suspects. There's almost no chance wolves kill AA as the 2nd prime suspect.
So the real question is, why would SK kill him? My thought process was that an SK should also try to gun down more-towny folks because as long as suspicion was being raised on the wagons and he wasn't among them, it would be okay.

So my thinking instead now, is that SK kills AA because towards EoD he leaned strongly toward AA as being town and suspected he would no longer be a top suspect going into d2. I don't think wolves would apply this logic because my guess is they would try to keep their suspicions raised of him and poke holes in his posts.

#notepadforposts

[YoshL]

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I wasn't thinking on this level, I didn't really have an opinion on it, it was just kind of weirding me out

such base level thought

[thesunfan]

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As homage to Charu, I will indeed reread his posts

My current new top suspect is indeed MML

wineandbread says his top suspect is MML

Maybe it's just that I don't have the same kind of emotions for TWG but I can't emphasize with Charu's reaction. I'd also like to point out that you never called tokzic out for it at EoD

Also if you see post 1291, I noticed the thing about tokzic's votes before you brought it up

I'd just like to elaborate on this pattern though:

First "lul"-tier vote on Charu comes at 9:17pm
Swaps to Zenith at 9:38, he's in the middle of reading from what I can tell from his other posts
Revotes Charu at 9:40. This is an interesting one cause he prefaces it with "nobody huh", looks like he's trying to gauge another town reaction from his voteswap to Zenith
Unvotes at 9:51, in reaction to a post by Charu
Votes DBP at 9:52, no reasoning given
Unvotes at 9:53, no reasoning given
Votes back at 9:58, after being convinced of himself that either sunsfan or Charu is red
Note that hardly any real reasoning is given in his reads (although understandable since it was nearing EoD)

It's just a really chaotic line of action and rubs me the wrong way

Gonna park a vote on Tokzic for the time being

K bedtime

wineandbread votes for Tokzic without mentioning MML between these two posts

[thesunfan]

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such base level thought

its actually lower than base level!!!

[_Zenith_]

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Currently my reads:


1. Xiz - Town Lean
2. Gradiant - Town Lean
3. Tokzic - Null, slight town lean because of claim bullshit
4. DaBackpack - Null, very very slight lean towards wolf from inactivity, due for change when he gets back
5. Wineandbread - Pure Null
6. MixMasterLar - Slight Town Lean, playing eerily similar to last game
7. thesunfan - Weird, but still a solid town candidate
8. inDheart - Null, would lean wolf more than town but null
9. reuben_tate - Null, needs to post more for more accurate read than a BS read
10. Xelnya - Null, I still have doubts but still have yet to see anything wolfy stick out
11. Charles Claythorne (AKA MASHI) - Lovers w/ me
12. YoshL - Town lean

I know a good handful are null and that's because I haven't looked in-depth nor have really wanted to look in-depth at them other than posts I've seen in recent times

Like I said earlier I feel like I'm getting nowhere fast but someone said they feel majority of active players are town and I kind of feel the same way aorn

[_Zenith_]

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Okay C/P where the fuck is Yoshiisland lmao

Obviously, my top wolf read right now

[inDheart]

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the supposition that i originally made was that he was planning for the future. being able to hint at being a vigi early without softing or anything is super useful if like, a scum dies and you can pop up like "look i've been contributing and i 'vigi'ed a wolf"

or something to that extent

*being able to set up a future vigi claim as the sk

trying not to make this come off as insulting, but i don't think MML would have thought that far ahead based on his play up to now, unless he's somehow busy strategizing instead of building quote chains and actually responding to criticism

he's also claimed VT

[thesunfan]

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4. DaBackpack - Null, very very slight lean towards wolf from inactivity, due for change when he gets back
5. Wineandbread - Pure Null
7. thesunfan - Weird, but still a solid town candidate
8. inDheart - Null, would lean wolf more than town but null
9. reuben_tate - Null, needs to post more for more accurate read than a BS read
10. Xelnya - Null, I still have doubts but still have yet to see anything wolfy stick out

what

can you uh

explain these further? especially the read on DBP

[YoshL]

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trying not to make this come off as insulting, but i don't think MML would have thought that far ahead based on his play up to now, unless he's somehow busy strategizing instead of building quote chains and actually responding to criticism

he's also claimed VT

i almost actually burst out laughing because this is probably true

[YoshL]

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Like I said earlier I feel like I'm getting nowhere fast but someone said they feel majority of active players are town and I kind of feel the same way aorn

i feel like you're bringing this up because you fall into the more "active" section of posters aorn

[_Zenith_]

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i feel like you're bringing this up because you fall into the more "active" section of posters aorn

Actually I don't consider myself active right now

The most work I did was rereading thread when I subbed in, I've tapered off poorly, self-admittedly.

[inDheart]

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I could see an argument about how my typos iun the vote post are actually uncharacteristic of me, and mobile posting isn't something I like doing for TWG, because I do proofread my posts. If there's a "les" "fren" or the like, those aren't typos. I do those a lot.

But I was literally sitting in a red robin enjoying a big tavern burger, with an extra patty, plain, with cheddar cheese instead of american. (It's fucking tasty.)

I will find the fucking recpit if I must.

the irony here is amazing

[_Zenith_]

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what

can you uh

explain these further? especially the read on DBP

4. DaBackpack - Null, very very slight lean towards wolf from inactivity, due for change when he gets back
5. Wineandbread - Pure Null
7. thesunfan - Weird, but still a solid town candidate
8. inDheart - Null, would lean wolf more than town but null
9. reuben_tate - Null, needs to post more for more accurate read than a BS read
10. Xelnya - Null, I still have doubts but still have yet to see anything wolfy stick out

4) DBP - I don't really care what you think about him because of the EoD emotion and you saying there's no chance he isn't town, I still have feelings that time tells DBP's alignment, but reading his posts nothing stands out for both town lean or wolf lean. Yes, his emotions really showed an hour before EoD and during EoD, but that doesn't mean to fully conclude him. I want to see his posts when he gets back before I swing him one or the other way

5) Wabby - Just haven't put in the time to read into him. His style seems very reminiscent of last game so imo he's got that going for him.

7) You - I was going to post saying I disagree with some of your reads (or at least, some of the reasons behind them) but that doesn't mean I don't think you're not town. I find it odd that you're questioning a town read on yourself, or maybe you just want more reasons as to why, but that just makes me think you're still town. I doubt you are Anti-Town this game.

8) Heart - Would lean him more wolf currently because of a few posts but I do really need to take the time to read harder at these nulls. I know you're looking for more on these reads but I have no excuse other than not taking the time to read them yet. Sorry.

9) Reuben - Pretty self-explanatory, I liked his activity d0 which made me lean town originally, but now the read went from null due to not new content to justify a new read on him. I don't want to half-cock a read on him just from d0 so I want to see him post more before I make an accurate read.

10 Xel - I was wrong to metaread him. I'll admit that. But he's playing incredibly tame so I don't feel confident in reading him at the moment. I do want to read his big posts more closely, but nothing truly has stuck out in determining alignment imo. He's came, gone, and provided posts, so it's just up to me to actually read.

Apologies if you don't like any of this sunfan, but I truly don't have an excuse other than laziness.

[inDheart]

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But why does this matter? What reason do you have to drag EoD into this?

Because shit man, was this some CNN / FOX news / Shitty youtube "social expirament" level fear mongering here. "Oh look, this guy seems urgant to get someone out of the KITB. [I wonder why that would be?]"

I think you need to really back track and explain yourself

starting to think tokz didn't really process the thread beyond the part he swooped in for

eod is the time anyway when people need to start committing and i take xel's vote more as that kind of committal

[thesunfan]

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4. DaBackpack - Null, very very slight lean towards wolf from inactivity, due for change when he gets back
5. Wineandbread - Pure Null
7. thesunfan - Weird, but still a solid town candidate
8. inDheart - Null, would lean wolf more than town but null
9. reuben_tate - Null, needs to post more for more accurate read than a BS read
10. Xelnya - Null, I still have doubts but still have yet to see anything wolfy stick out

4) DBP - I don't really care what you think about him because of the EoD emotion and you saying there's no chance he isn't town, I still have feelings that time tells DBP's alignment, but reading his posts nothing stands out for both town lean or wolf lean. Yes, his emotions really showed an hour before EoD and during EoD, but that doesn't mean to fully conclude him. I want to see his posts when he gets back before I swing him one or the other way

5) Wabby - Just haven't put in the time to read into him. His style seems very reminiscent of last game so imo he's got that going for him.

7) You - I was going to post saying I disagree with some of your reads (or at least, some of the reasons behind them) but that doesn't mean I don't think you're not town. I find it odd that you're questioning a town read on yourself, or maybe you just want more reasons as to why, but that just makes me think you're still town. I doubt you are Anti-Town this game.

8) Heart - Would lean him more wolf currently because of a few posts but I do really need to take the time to read harder at these nulls. I know you're looking for more on these reads but I have no excuse other than not taking the time to read them yet. Sorry.

9) Reuben - Pretty self-explanatory, I liked his activity d0 which made me lean town originally, but now the read went from null due to not new content to justify a new read on him. I don't want to half-cock a read on him just from d0 so I want to see him post more before I make an accurate read.

10 Xel - I was wrong to metaread him. I'll admit that. But he's playing incredibly tame so I don't feel confident in reading him at the moment. I do want to read his big posts more closely, but nothing truly has stuck out in determining alignment imo. He's came, gone, and provided posts, so it's just up to me to actually read.

Apologies if you don't like any of this sunfan, but I truly don't have an excuse other than laziness.

I mean I really don't understand the wording in some of the reads you made

calling me a town candidate made me think you weren't reading me town, but you are

I don't get your wording on heart at all, or really understand what you're talking about with Xel

fwiw I don't like that you're not reading DBP town but I think maybe you know that