TWG XIII - Dark Matters: Crow's Best (Game Over)

[flypie743]

flypie743 (9:30:57 PM): ok listen
flypie743 (9:31:04 PM): there is a chance alain could have been a wolf
flypie743 (9:31:06 PM): do you see that?
lightdarkness42 (9:31:30 PM): A chance, but that happening is way like, not probable
lightdarkness42 (9:31:34 PM): with not knowing the guardian 100%
lightdarkness42 (9:31:36 PM): I would never do it
flypie743 (9:31:47 PM): but you see
flypie743 (9:31:47 PM): ok
flypie743 (9:31:58 PM): panda let it slip to hans that she was the guardian
flypie743 (9:32:03 PM): hans *could be* a wolf
flypie743 (9:32:07 PM): and told his other wolves
flypie743 (9:32:25 PM): now alain is smart and a risk-taker enough
flypie743 (9:32:45 PM): to say ok get her to guard me etc and then we will be able to form an alliance and us wolves will be in on it
flypie743 (9:33:01 PM): the alliance would be hans, panda, alain-2 of which being wolves and the other wolf knowing about it
flypie743 (9:33:03 PM): it is a possibility
flypie743 (9:34:18 PM): you see?
flypie743 (9:38:53 PM): k
lightdarkness42 (9:40:41 PM): promis
lightdarkness42 (9:40:43 PM): and I read
lightdarkness42 (9:40:45 PM): so show
flypie743 (9:42:02 PM): ok
flypie743 (9:42:16 PM): this is right after blah found out about the hans/panda thing and we were talking about it
flypie743 (9:42:37 PM): keep in mind that panda has been confirmed human/special role
flypie743 (9:44:36 PM): mastr414: panda tells me not to lytnch hans because she wants to see if he'll try and wolf her tonight
flypie743 (9:44:55 PM): mastr414: so if i end up dying tonight
mastr414: now you know they did it just to stall me
flypie743 (9:45:00 PM): now they lynched him
lightdarkness42 (9:45:14 PM): who lynch'd blah
flypie743 (9:45:17 PM): so that means that panda was human, hans could be a wolf lynching blah right?
flypie743 (9:45:23 PM): hans, panda, and qreepy
lightdarkness42 (9:45:46 PM): i'm really thinking hans
flypie743 (9:46:27 PM): same

[Kefit]

Jay: I think hans is getting nervous
Kefit42: oh, he definitely is
Jay: honestly
Jay: he is the ONLY one I think would wolf tass
Kefit42: reminds me of the conversations I had with Alain back in the game where he was devil
Jay: he is trying to come up with excuses
Kefit42: indeed
Kefit42: furthermore
Kefit42: take a look at the time descrepencies
Kefit42: He is taking a while to think of every thing he says
Kefit42: Guess who else did that?
Kefit42: alain, when he was the devil
Kefit42: That is how things work when you CONSTANTLY HAVE TO LIE
Jay: chang'd vote
Jay: wait
Jay: who did Blah start the big thingy with?
Kefit42: Stretchy and Hans
Jay: no
Jay: who did he convict
Jay: >
Jay: what you posting
Jay: where did that come from?

The chat today started pretty quickly with us all jumping on Hans. I think there is credible evidence against him. However, partway through LD contacted me out of the blue, and we chatted as above.

I'm not certain, but this chat has made me very weary of LD. It was as if he was trying to reinforce my beliefs against Hans, that he was trying to push me towards voting for Hans - almost as if he was reminding me that I should vote for Hans. Furthermore, LD's vote against Hans was also a way to get me to vote for him, since LD knew I would not vote for Hans if it wouldn't accomplish anything.

Now I know that I part of that conversation is me attacking Hans, but I have been doing that for a while now, and these thoughts about LD didn't pop up until after the convo was over.

Thoughts?

[QreepyBORIS]

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flypie743: well I feel strongly that blah was human based on the AIM conversations I had with him, so I suspect hans to be a wolf.
QreepyBORIS: Oh, hot!
NotSoFarOff: Alright, fine. All I was saying is that the odds of hitting that 1/16 spot twice is small, that's all.
NotSoFarOff: Don't shoot me for it.
Tps7910: I havent't hit it yet
lightdarkness42: *shoots hans*
Tps7910: in 6 games
flypie743: I don't think blah was the seer, but I think he is human
Tps7910: So then do we think that Hans is a wolf>
QreepyBORIS: Tps hasn't hit it
QreepyBORIS: lol
QreepyBORIS: Anyways
flypie743: blah is smart enough to know how to start an alliance if he is the seer
NotSoFarOff: Because we think blah is human.
Tps7910: Mcdonalds has
QreepyBORIS: Yes.
lightdarkness42: Fly: it would be very blah like to seer tass, then alain, or whoever was wolfed
NotSoFarOff: And somehow, it must be one or the other.
flypie743: what night did blah die on again?
Tps7910: Yes
NotSoFarOff: He was lynched...
NotSoFarOff: On, day 2? 3?
Kefit42: night four'
QreepyBORIS: Hans, Flypie, Kefit, LD, and Tps are al wolves.
QreepyBORIS: And Qreepy too, while we're at it.
Tps7910: what about Fkux
Tps7910: FLux
QreepyBORIS: Oh.
QreepyBORIS: Him, too.
flypie743: he was lynched? I don't remember that. let me look back
QreepyBORIS: Yeah
Tps7910: Him
Tps7910: Noforcer
QreepyBORIS: Blah was lynched with THREE votes
Tps7910: Nforcer
QreepyBORIS: Me, Stretchy, and Hans, I believe
NotSoFarOff: Because I know I was apart of it.
Kefit42: oh yeah
Kefit42: He was lynched
flypie743: yep
flypie743: sorry
flypie743: he was lynched day 3
QreepyBORIS: So.
flypie743: who died night 3?
QreepyBORIS: What do we make of anything?
NotSoFarOff: I'm not saying blah WAS a wolf, but you at least need to consider the possibility that he was.
NotSoFarOff: And that's what you're not doing.
QreepyBORIS: Who died? Uh...Lupin.
QreepyBORIS: I think
Kefit42: Hans
Tps7910: Yes
Kefit42: I have considered said possibility
Kefit42: My conclusion?
flypie743: lupin
flypie743: right
flypie743: hold on a second
Kefit42: That it is more likely that he was human than a wolf
Kefit42: I have said this three times now
QreepyBORIS: It is more than likely that we (collectively) have lynched ONE wolf.
QreepyBORIS: So, who was it?
NotSoFarOff: I agree.
NotSoFarOff: Jurs.
bjstrattonIM has entered the room.
QreepyBORIS: Who, though, is the important part.
QreepyBORIS: Oh, Hay ther kigla
lightdarkness42: KILGA IS A WOLF
QreepyBORIS: OMGty
bjstrattonIM: /kick #TWG XIII LD mod sass
QreepyBORIS: HAhaha
QreepyBORIS: This is not IRC
QreepyBORIS: You lose
bjstrattonIM:
bjstrattonIM: sftu
QreepyBORIS: I set mode +m
QreepyBORIS: How can you call me when you cannot...speak?
QreepyBORIS: Anyways.
lightdarkness42: Kilga got us off topic
Kefit42: Kilga, you missed the fun
Kefit42: Or rather
Kefit42: You missed the part where we did what you wanted to see
Tps7910: He said the round ends 1:24 am tommorow
Kefit42: That is, how TWGs tend to go on here
Tps7910: With two teams forming
Tps7910: a defense
Tps7910: and an offense
Tps7910: Both arguing there case, and taking sides
NotSoFarOff: The hell?
QreepyBORIS: ....
NotSoFarOff: I don't see two teams here.
QreepyBORIS: No?
NotSoFarOff: I see team TWG.
QreepyBORIS: HI THERE MISTER ILLOGIC
NotSoFarOff: And.
NotSoFarOff: Me.
Tps7910: I see
Tps7910: Team
Tps7910: Blah was human
Tps7910: and Team
Tps7910: Hans is human
NotSoFarOff: ...Oh?
NotSoFarOff: Who is on the latter, then?
Tps7910: You
NotSoFarOff: Oh, good.
NotSoFarOff: So, in essence, I was right.
Kefit42: Hans
QreepyBORIS: Heh.
Kefit42: If you would like me to reconsider, then give me solid evidence for Blah being a wolf
Kefit42: Because much of my reasoning rests on that
Kefit42: Or rather, that he was human
NotSoFarOff: This is where I was coming from:
Tps7910: 3 votes on hans
Tps7910: one more and he is gone
Kefit42: HOLD ON
Kefit42: BEFORE ANYONE ELSE VOTES
Kefit42: I NEED TO POST SOMETHING
Tps7910: So we should finish this discussion first
Kefit42: oh
Kefit42: and it is two votes against Hans
Kefit42: So no need to worry about instalynch yet
NotSoFarOff: Blah was fucking with my head all game. He has done it from the BEGINNING. The very beginning, even when he had no reason NOT to trust me. He pinned me and panda against each other, when we had formed an alliance. After that,
QreepyBORIS: Yessum?
flypie743: how did he pin you guys against each other?
Tps7910: 3
Tps7910: wait
Tps7910: Qreepy changed
Tps7910: nevermind
QreepyBORIS: :P
QreepyBORIS: Heh, sorry Tps. XD
NotSoFarOff: I could not trust him anymore. Me and panda talked a lot about this, and we decided that it would be best to vote for him because first of all, nothing had happened that day. We had nothing to go on except for our suspicions and
NotSoFarOff: anti-trust fund with blah.
QreepyBORIS: It's taking you an awful long time to type this all, Hans.
Tps7910: Well, if we kill hans tonight
QreepyBORIS: Why so? It should come straight out.
Tps7910: and there is a tomorrow
NotSoFarOff: Qreepy, maybe I'm not a fast typer? 0_o
Tps7910: I say we kill hans
QreepyBORIS: Psh!
Tps7910: heres my reasoning
QreepyBORIS: You are on the internet!
Tps7910: hmm
Tps7910: I have to organizre this in my head
Tps7910: give me a secx
lightdarkness42: I'LL GIVE YOU A SEX
QreepyBORIS: Shudder.
NotSoFarOff: "Hell, my suspicions against him have only been strengthened by eb's death."
NotSoFarOff: Yeah, because there's no way in hell I could have been FRAMED.
Tps7910: Well, are we agreeing that Hans and Blah were not on the same team?
Kefit42: I suppose you could have been, Hans
Kefit42: But who here would know that I strongly felt either you or eb was a wolf?
Kefit42: I don't believe I shared those thoughts with anyone
NotSoFarOff: But who here would know that I strongly felt either you or eb was a wolf?
NotSoFarOff: Rephrase, please.
Tps7910: If hans dies, and there is a tomorrow then we know that Blah was a wolf
Kefit42: I strongly feel that either you or eb is a wolf
Kefit42: Which is why my feelings against you have been strengthened by eb's death
Kefit42: however, I do not believe I shared these thoughts with anyone
iunh606t6 has entered the room.
QreepyBORIS: ?
QreepyBORIS: Flux?
NotSoFarOff: I had strong suspicions against eb. And then he dies that night.
NotSoFarOff: Yes.
Tps7910: I guess
iunh606t6: yeah, qreepy
Kefit42: Something else to note right now
Tps7910: Whats the worse thing that can happen if Hans dies
Kefit42: Flux just voted for Tps
Kefit42: tying Hans and Tps
QreepyBORIS: Brb.
NotSoFarOff: Doesn't it seem at all that someone is trying to screw me over?
Tps7910: If hans dies
lightdarkness42: hans:
Tps7910: The game wont end
iunh606t6: I had the reply window up for like 20 minutes, so I didn't see the whole hans thing until after I posted
lightdarkness42: more than 3 people think you're a wolf, am icorrect?
Kefit42: I have been the driving force behind screwing you over, Hans
Kefit42: And I am human
Kefit42: Of course
Kefit42: The person who seems to be strongly with me on all this
Kefit42: Is LD
Tps7910: Heres why we should kill hans
NotSoFarOff: You would say that, of course.
Kefit42: Of course I would
Tps7910: There is a guarenteed tomorrow
Kefit42: As are you of yourself
NotSoFarOff: LD hasn't had a strong standpoint all game.
Kefit42: Not in his posts
Tps7910: If hans dies, and is a wolf
Tps7910: then we keep on going
Kefit42: But in the way he has been chatting with me
Tps7910: if he is human
Kefit42: Outside of this chat
Tps7910: and dies
Kefit42: in the last few minutes
Tps7910: then Blah was a wolf
Tps7910: and we keep on going
Tps7910: if we dont kill hans
Tps7910: he could be a wolf
Tps7910: then the game would end
NotSoFarOff: Oh, I get it.
NotSoFarOff: So, really, you HAVE to kill me, is that it?
Tps7910: Yes
Kefit42: That is Tps's logic
Tps7910: If we want a tomorrow
NotSoFarOff: That is complete bullshit.
Tps7910: Why
Tps7910: Either you or him is a wolf
Tps7910: If you are human
Tps7910: the he is a wolf
Tps7910: we will be here tomorrow
Tps7910: and we will know it
Tps7910: if you die
Tps7910: Killing you gurantees us another day
bjstrattonIM: Don't forget, everyone, just because all votes are in doesn't mean the day is over yet.
NotSoFarOff: And if I die?
NotSoFarOff: And there ISN'T a tomorrow?
Tps7910: There has to be
lightdarkness42: then we suck at TWG
Tps7910: unless you and Blah were both human
Kefit42: Of course, Hans, there is always that possibility
Tps7910: and everyone else
Tps7910: You say blah is a wolf
Kefit42: But there is that possibility with everyone we lynch
Kefit42: Your logic is starting to fall apart
NotSoFarOff: No doubt about that.
NotSoFarOff: It would considering I'm about 2 votes away from an instalynch.
Tps7910: Well
Tps7910: If you die
Tps7910: We get tommorow
Tps7910: If we dont lynch you
Tps7910: we risk that
Tps7910: I like the tomorrow choice
QreepyBORIS: Okay so
QreepyBORIS: I am back
Tps7910: Read up
QreepyBORIS: Yes. =/
QreepyBORIS: wow
Tps7910: We kill AHns
Tps7910: Hans
QreepyBORIS: that's..alot
Tps7910: Worst case scenario
bjstrattonIM: tl;dr
Tps7910: He is human
bjstrattonIM: lol amirite
iunh606t6: I think we might need to just take a chance, if it works out, awesome, if not then we fucked this game
Tps7910: and we are still here
Tps7910: because blah is a wolf
Tps7910: if he is a wolf
Tps7910: were still here
NotSoFarOff: God damnit.
Tps7910: if we dont lynch him
NotSoFarOff: IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE ONE OR THE OTHER
Tps7910: there is a possibility that all 3 are alive
Kefit42: Hans
Kefit42: You are right
Tps7910: Why
Kefit42: BUT WE HAVE NOTHING BETTER TO WORK WITh
Kefit42: AND YOU ARE OFFERING NOTHING
lightdarkness42: hans
lightdarkness42: admit you're a wolf
Tps7910: The only thing that would ruin my plan is that if you and BLah are both human
NotSoFarOff: Jesus, I'm not a damn wolf.
iunh606t6: LD, that plan hasn't worked with anyone so far -_-;
NotSoFarOff: A few days ago, ld, you thought said my post about eb was legit.
Tps7910: It did in JTWG
lightdarkness42: Flux: it was a funny remark
NotSoFarOff: And now you're ALL over my back now.
iunh606t6: I know
iunh606t6: mine was a failed attempt at the same
flypie743: alright I have to go
QreepyBORIS: OKAY
QreepyBORIS: I read up
lightdarkness42: bai flai
QreepyBORIS: Aww, damn
QreepyBORIS: LAter.
flypie743: sorry guys. later
Tps7910: Well, it seems as that lynching Hans is our best bet for being around for tommorow
flypie743 has left the room.
NotSoFarOff: Says you, tps.
Tps7910: Says I
Tps7910: Not voting on that yet
QreepyBORIS: Blah or TPS is a wolf.
NotSoFarOff: But I am not about to get lynched because it's your 'best bet'.
Tps7910: Want to here everything
QreepyBORIS: Both is...unlikely.
Kefit42: Hans
Kefit42: You dont want to be lynched
Kefit42: THEN DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT
iunh606t6: why exactly do we think one if them is almost definatly a wolf?
QreepyBORIS: Uhm
Tps7910: Hans or BLah?
QreepyBORIS: Good question
Kefit42: Do something besides whining about how you are human
Tps7910: or Blah and Me?
QreepyBORIS: THEIR AURAS, okay?
Kefit42: Because that tells us nothing
iunh606t6: blah and hans
Tps7910: Didnt you read the thing with stretchy
QreepyBORIS: Who?
iunh606t6: ah
iunh606t6: I'm still not sured what happned in that
NotSoFarOff: What about flypie, did we all forget about her?
QreepyBORIS: Yes.
QreepyBORIS: We did
lightdarkness42: No
lightdarkness42: I didn't
QreepyBORIS: And she excused herself
QreepyBORIS: Knowing that
Kefit42: What about flypie?
Tps7910: IF she was a wolf
Tps7910: SHe would have stayed here
Tps7910: to avoid that exact suspicion
Tps7910: she plays this way every round
QreepyBORIS: You think she'd THINK of that?
Tps7910: Calling her dumb?
QreepyBORIS: No.
Tps7910: If you were a wolf
NotSoFarOff: She has offered nothing to the game. Her votes were thrown to the bandwagon(I'm pretty sure) just to get someone lynched.
QreepyBORIS: But do you honestly think her cognitive abilities
QreepyBORIS: are to that level?
Tps7910: and you knew people weren suspecing you
NotSoFarOff: Something a WOLF would do.
Tps7910: You wouldnt bring attention to yourself like that
QreepyBORIS: Well, she had to GO to BED
QreepyBORIS: So
QreepyBORIS: Moot?
Tps7910: Well, everyone has played there own styles
Tps7910: Ld and slef voting
Tps7910: Kefit and FLy innactive
Tps7910: thouhg active on aim\
Tps7910: ME and my dumb ideas
lightdarkness42: kefit works though, right?
Tps7910: yes
Kefit42: Note that when I post, I contribute
lightdarkness42: kefit has played the same game, every game
QreepyBORIS: Noted.
Kefit42: This can not be said of everyone who is inactive
QreepyBORIS: Kefit: better than nobody!
Tps7910: Flux has too
QreepyBORIS: :P
Tps7910: He has played like a wolf would
NotSoFarOff: This is what I think of flypie's votes:
iunh606t6: has what?
iunh606t6: oh
Tps7910: Lay low
Tps7910: contribute
Tps7910: DOnt draw much attention
Tps7910: Figuring if you are new
QreepyBORIS: A lot of people do that
QreepyBORIS: human and oterwise
Tps7910: People wont know your style
iunh606t6: if I were trying to not draw attention, it's obviously not working
NotSoFarOff: "Um, vote. Here's an explanation, just so I have some type of reasoning behind it. I really don't, but if I want to avoid suspicion, then I should probably do that."
QreepyBORIS: Explain?
NotSoFarOff: Again, something a wolf would do.
lightdarkness42: flypie just posted
QreepyBORIS: Okay?
QreepyBORIS: Link?
lightdarkness42: lazy ass
iunh606t6: http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...=381238#381238
NotSoFarOff: Because, what kind of damn evidence can a WOLF produce? NONE that is true.
iunh606t6: oops, wrong page
Tps7910: i dont see a vote?
bjstrattonIM: That's because there isn't one.
bjstrattonIM: Not in flypie's most recent post, anyway.
lightdarkness42: Jay: flypie just posted
Tps7910: That's what I thought
lightdarkness42: not voted
QreepyBORIS: HAha
Tps7910: Where did you get that from Hans?
QreepyBORIS: My name like comes out of nowhere in that post
QreepyBORIS: O_o
Tps7910: Oh
Tps7910: Kefit
Tps7910: he said that
lightdarkness42: thats who voted blah
Tps7910: not Fly
Tps7910: O ok
Kefit42: wait
Kefit42: I don't remember saying anything like that o_O
QreepyBORIS: brb...-_-
QreepyBORIS: Fabricating IM convos is legal.
QreepyBORIS: You know that.
QreepyBORIS: (Ask Kilga...I did!)
lightdarkness42: wait
lightdarkness42: saying anything like what
QreepyBORIS: (As in I asked kilga, not made shit up)
QreepyBORIS: So I'll brb...-_-
bjstrattonIM: Fabricating AIM convos is perfectly legal.
lightdarkness42: Yet Fabricating PM's isn't As I found out in TWG 8
lightdarkness42: but I won't rant about that
bjstrattonIM: And long as they didn't supposedly take place between you and a dead person after the person died.
NotSoFarOff: Kefit, people look to you to be a power player. You are steadfast on lynching me, and you've basically pulled everyone to your side.
Tps7910: Well
NotSoFarOff: Let me ask you something. Why are you still alive this late in the game?
bjstrattonIM: Like, if LD made up a convo with Jursey that "happened" yesterday.
Tps7910: he has reasoning
Tps7910: You have none
iunh606t6: wait, kefit is a wolf because he's still alive?
Tps7910: Makes since
Tps7910: sense
iunh606t6: perfect sense
Kefit42: Hans, why are you still alive, especially after last game?
Kefit42: I'm not a power player in the ordinary sense of the word
Kefit42: The power players here are very active
NotSoFarOff: The known guardian is dead. You were likely to be the next target.
Kefit42: They go out of their way to do things
Kefit42: I dont
Tps7910: Why
Kefit42: I only consider things that come to me
Tps7910: he is inncative
Tps7910: They woludnt kill him
Tps7910: Wolves heart innactive people
NotSoFarOff: But is damned smart, and he's next on the food chain.
Kefit42: As long as wolves keep things from getting to me, they have nothing to fear
NotSoFarOff: No, I don't consider Kefit inactive.
Kefit42: I am not inactive
Tps7910: Compared to peopel like Blah and alain
NotSoFarOff: He contributes to the game.
Kefit42: And I am fairly good at taking in information and at ripping apart aim convos
NotSoFarOff: That's all you need, really.
Kefit42: But I don't go out of my way to get information
Kefit42: I jsut dont care enough about the game
Kefit42: plus that is the part that I would probably fuck up
Kefit42: And have fucked up before
Tps7910: It seems as you (hans) is trying to make up reasoning, and it is evry good
Tps7910: flypie743 (9:45:23 PM): hans, panda, and qreepy
Tps7910: lol
Tps7910: Random
QreepyBORIS: Yes.
NotSoFarOff: Oh, and I'll tell you why I'm not dead.
QreepyBORIS: I donno where the Qreepy came from
NotSoFarOff: Because I'm about to get lynched, that's why.
Tps7910: I just think you are a dumb human
Tps7910: no offense
lightdarkness42: Guys
lightdarkness42: she was answeering my question
NotSoFarOff: You have planned on getting me lynched since yesterday.
lightdarkness42: of who lynched blah
Tps7910: or a quick to jump to an accusation
Kefit42: Hans
NotSoFarOff: And you won't rest until I am lynched.
Kefit42: I have not planned on getting you lynched
lightdarkness42: lightdarkness42 (9:45:14 PM): who lynch'd blah flypie743 (9:45:17 PM): so that means that panda was human, hans could be a wolf lynching blah right? flypie743 (9:45:23 PM): hans, panda, and qreepy
Kefit42: Have I wanted you lynched?
Kefit42: yes
Tps7910: Well, I think that convo proves LD and flypie's humanity
Kefit42: But I havent worked towards getting others to vote for you
Tps7910: unless they planned on using it
Tps7910: they would have talked about wolf plans
Kefit42: quick question
Kefit42: Who got us together for this chat?
lightdarkness42: tps
NotSoFarOff: Kefit42 (10:04:14 PM): Have I wanted you lynched?
NotSoFarOff: "Of course, voting for him now would accomplish absolutely nothing right now, so I won't do that. "
QreepyBORIS: Ah ha.
NotSoFarOff: Excuse me?
Kefit42: Heh
QreepyBORIS: So that's why my name was there
Kefit42: Its the truth
Kefit42: I want you lynched
Kefit42: But I am not working to change other's opinions
Tps7910: Ld?
QreepyBORIS: ...
NotSoFarOff: You're not?
QreepyBORIS: Why not
QreepyBORIS: ?
Kefit42: Nope
Kefit42: If I was, I would be talking to people other than you
QreepyBORIS: Br MORE EGOJOND IBN
NotSoFarOff: You 've been talking to ld.
Kefit42: You will notice that you are the only person I have been replying to in here
Kefit42: and Ld contacted me
NotSoFarOff: ANd he is on your side, no doubt about that.
Kefit42: not the other way around
Kefit42: And he was attempting to get me on HIS side
NotSoFarOff: You aren't persuading people to think your way?
Kefit42: which is why I am a bit weary of him
bjstrattonIM: Everyone's weary of LD, Kefit.
bjstrattonIM: ;D
Tps7910: You have no good evidnce to why you are human hans
Tps7910: KEfit has presented some good ideas
Kefit42: I am actually almost as weary of LD now as I am of you, Hans
lightdarkness42: wait
lightdarkness42: what?
Tps7910: Exactly
Kefit42: Heh
Kefit42: LD, the way you contacted me just strikes me as a bit odd
lightdarkness42: how?
lightdarkness42: you had the same ideas I did about hans
lightdarkness42: so I IM'd you
Kefit42: Nah
QreepyBORIS: ...Is it on?
NotSoFarOff: ...
Kefit42: Your IM to me almost seemed as a reminder that I need to change my vote to Hans
Kefit42: Sort of a "I agree so you MUST BE RIGHT"
Kefit42: sort of thing
lightdarkness42: *pulls up IM history*
lightdarkness42: damn
Kefit42: If you could kindly provide me with our full convo today I would appreciate it
lightdarkness42: it's too long
Kefit42: I have closed the window
Kefit42: well
Tps7910: post it
Kefit42: I have it open now
Kefit42: But I closed it about halfway through
Kefit42: before it got opened again
lightdarkness42: there
lightdarkness42: sent 2u
Kefit42: thankies
lightdarkness42: you said more things about hans than I did
lightdarkness42: how was I trying to get you to change?
Kefit42: Yeah, I did
Kefit42: You prompted me to
Kefit42: You knew I had those thoughts already
Tps7910: Do we agree that eirther Blah or Hans is a wolf?
Kefit42: I'm looking at both you and Hans right now
Kefit42: Tps: No
Kefit42: I believe that is the case
lightdarkness42: Hans and I can't be wolves
lightdarkness42: both*
Kefit42: But I'm not gonna bet my life on it
Kefit42: LD: I know
Kefit42: Which is why I am looking at both possibilities right now
NotSoFarOff: Post it, please.
Kefit42: k
lightdarkness42: post what?
Tps7910: the convo
lightdarkness42: of waht
lightdarkness42: kefit and I?
Kefit42: working on post now
NotSoFarOff: Yeah.
lightdarkness42: you scared the shit outta me
QreepyBORIS: O_o
QreepyBORIS: how so?
lightdarkness42: I thought there was an evil plot against me
NotSoFarOff: Yeah, what the hell are you talking about?
lightdarkness42: Hans said "Post it please"
Tps7910: lol
Tps7910: Like a hahahah
Tps7910: Your dead LD
Tps7910: we tricked you
lightdarkness42: I thought he was saying to Kefit like, Post our grand scheme
lightdarkness42: exactly, you scared me
QreepyBORIS: XD
QreepyBORIS: That would be uh
bjstrattonIM: lol trix
QreepyBORIS: unnerving.
QreepyBORIS: Heh, KIILGA MAEK PSOTO?!
Tps7910: That made me laugh
QreepyBORIS: What did?
Tps7910: LD
bjstrattonIM: Just because I don't say anything doesn't mean I'm not paying attention >_>
QreepyBORIS:
QreepyBORIS: I know, foosd!
Kefit42: Ooh
bjstrattonIM: Although I REALLY should get to work on my Discrete work.
bjstrattonIM: Oh well.
Kefit42: I just noticed something good
QreepyBORIS: As in..
QreepyBORIS: The company?
Kefit42: I'll include it in my post
bjstrattonIM: uh
bjstrattonIM: What?
Tps7910: Good as in
QreepyBORIS: Discrete?
Tps7910: World peace
bjstrattonIM: Oh.
bjstrattonIM: No.
QreepyBORIS: O_o_O_o
Tps7910: or Wolfish
bjstrattonIM: Discrete Structures II.
QreepyBORIS: Oh.
QreepyBORIS: =/
QreepyBORIS: WELL then.
QreepyBORIS: ...Can I help you>?
bjstrattonIM: Doubtful.
QreepyBORIS: Aww.
bjstrattonIM: You don't even know what the assignment is on. >_>
QreepyBORIS: I helped my brother with his Physics when I was in 8th grade
QreepyBORIS: that RULED
QreepyBORIS: anyways
QreepyBORIS: Brb.
Tps7910: I'm guessing they are two totally diff topics
Tps7910: Quiet there FLux
bjstrattonIM: Kefit, are you intentionally saying "weary" as in "tired"?
bjstrattonIM: Or do you mean "wary" as in "suspicious of"?
bjstrattonIM: O_o
Tps7910: Wait
Tps7910: Kefit
Tps7910: It doesnt look like he is pushing you at all
Tps7910: You are doing all the talking
Kefit42: POSTED
Kefit42: GOGOGO
lightdarkness42: thats what I said, lol
NotSoFarOff: Kefit42: He is taking a while to think of every thing he says
NotSoFarOff: You have GOT to be kidding me.
NotSoFarOff: Yes, because all of my attention is focused on this chat.
Tps7910: It should be
Tps7910:
Tps7910: Kefit
Kefit42: Hans
Kefit42: I am focusing most of my attention to this chat
Kefit42: I don't see why it would be unreasonable to assume that others are doing the same
Tps7910: As I
Tps7910: Not FLux
Tps7910: Qreepy said brb
Tps7910: LD was
Tps7910: Kilga even is
NotSoFarOff: You want to see what I'm doing?
iunh606t6: I am off and on
Tps7910: though ehe souldnt
lightdarkness42: Hans:
NotSoFarOff: Do I really need to show you, or should you just take my word for it?
iunh606t6: when you guys started talking about physics I stopped for a bit
lightdarkness42: I'm watching punk'd, talking to synth, talking to my ex, and browsing the forums, all while reading this chat
Kefit42: I'll take your word on it
bjstrattonIM: Hey, don't lecture me. >
Kefit42: I'm looking for thoughts towards LD right now
Tps7910: I am in a live fantasy baseball draft, doing homework, in this chat, 5 aim convo's reading forum, watching a tv show
Tps7910: It didnt seem as LD was pushing you KEfit
NotSoFarOff: Stravinsky was born on June 17th, 1882 in a Russian city known as Lomonosov.
NotSoFarOff: Multiply by 10 pages.
Kefit42: ok
Kefit42: I told you I would take your word on it
iunh606t6: TV, ripping CDs, ordering a game, 2 chats
Kefit42: Anyway
bjstrattonIM: Man, what the fuck
Kefit42: Any thoughts towards LD, Hans?
bjstrattonIM: I have nothing to do right now
Kefit42: In respects to my last post?
bjstrattonIM: How are all of you so busy?
lightdarkness42: Kilga; skill
lightdarkness42: now i'm adding items to my KoL Shop too
bjstrattonIM: I want to be cool too :<
lightdarkness42: MULTITASKING
lightdarkness42: Kilga: Step one of the files in the new foru
lightdarkness42: m
bjstrattonIM: Also I abandoned the idea of Discrete HW because I realized that I don't have to do it until Wedbesday
iunh606t6: brb phone
bjstrattonIM: wtf
bjstrattonIM: >_>
Tps7910:
Tps7910: KEfit
bjstrattonIM: I have like
bjstrattonIM: a MONTH to do those
Kefit42: Tps?
Tps7910: It didnt seem as Ld was pushign you
Tps7910: From waht you provided
Tps7910: You did most of the talking
Kefit42: Yes
Kefit42: I did
Kefit42: But LD already knew my beliefs before then
Kefit42: His contacting me was a nudge
Tps7910: So point out were he was pushing you
Tps7910: to vote
Kefit42: Same with his vote
Tps7910: He was discussing similar beliefs
Kefit42: He wasn't pushing me outright. But his discussion was a nudge for me to vote Hans
lightdarkness42: Kefit
lightdarkness42: even if I wanted to nudge you
Kefit42: Since he knew nothing would come of discussing Hans wolfishness with me
lightdarkness42: why would I, you were already set on hans
lightdarkness42: if anything, that conversation made you less active on hans
NotSoFarOff: I believe you said he was trying to push you, Kefit.
Kefit42: I did
NotSoFarOff: And now you're not.
Kefit42: But are we going to argue over word choice now?
Kefit42: Push, nudge
Tps7910: Yes
Kefit42: Whatever
Tps7910: It got me killed plent yof times
Tps7910: Anyways
Kefit42: To put it another way, he was pushing me, but very subtly
Tps7910: Ok
Tps7910: Well, there is a possibility of Hans and Kefit being wolves
Tps7910: with Kefit attacking hans
Kefit42: Hmm?
Kefit42: I am a possibility now?
NotSoFarOff: Anything is possible.
Tps7910: finding out it went to far
Kefit42: Fun
Tps7910: anmd tried to make something on LD
Kefit42: I suppose it is possible
Kefit42: You will notice I didn't change my vote
Tps7910: Trying to dis-associate
Kefit42: I am still weary of both
Tps7910: I know
Tps7910: I am so confused
NotSoFarOff: wary*(lolz kilga)
Kefit42: oopc
Tps7910: Well, I don't see what wrong can come from lynching hans
NotSoFarOff: Except another human death.
NotSoFarOff: But you seem to have no problem with that, tps.
NotSoFarOff: Just as long as it isn't you.
lightdarkness42: TPs' logic makes sense though
lightdarkness42: and you're smart, I don't see why youc an't see that
NotSoFarOff: Maybe I'm bitter.
Kefit42: Tps's logic makes sense
Kefit42: My logic makes sense
Kefit42: Hans' logic makes sense
Kefit42: Its not too hard to present logic that makes sense
Tps7910: Everyone's logic makes sense to themselves
NotSoFarOff: I think it's funny
Tps7910: Someone would have to be a wolf out of that whole Blah, Hans stretchy thing
NotSoFarOff: That when I started attacking you for attacking me(Kefit), you started to attack ld.
Kefit42: Hans, I am trying to provide another thing that we can take a look at
Tps7910: If we kill Hans, and he is human, then Blah wa probably a wolf
Tps7910: and we will go on
Tps7910: Eh
Tps7910: Ill wait on that
Tps7910: We have to make a decision before the night ends though
Tps7910: We dont want mixed feelings
NotSoFarOff: A little late for that, no?
Tps7910: or kniife in the box
Tps7910: We either lose with confidence, or win with confidence
Tps7910: We dont want to lose on a whim
Tps7910: Is anyone here?
lightdarkness42: Yes
Kefit42: Hans, who are you suspecting now?
lightdarkness42: I have to go within the next 15 minutes
NotSoFarOff: If people don't change their votes at all, I'll have to vote flux, simply to save myself.
Tps7910: LD and Sleeping?
lightdarkness42: Yea, in 15-20 min
NotSoFarOff: Same here.
Tps7910: Well
Tps7910: I am going with my plan
Tps7910: Sorry hans
Tps7910: Unless some miracle speech happens
Kefit42: Hmm
Tps7910: and I screw myself over
Kefit42: There is a chance I might change my vote to LD
Tps7910: again
lightdarkness42: kefit
Kefit42: I'm gonna look through the thread a bit
lightdarkness42: where the hell is this coming from
lightdarkness42: I don't understand how you got that vibe from our convo
NotSoFarOff: Kefit: You, most of all. Simply because you're pushing to get me lynched, and you say ld was pushing you, when(to me), he really wasn't.
Kefit42: *sigh*
NotSoFarOff: And once I said that before, you suddenly jumped on ld.
Kefit42: Hans, if I was trying to get you lycnhed, I would be trying to rally people to my side
Tps7910: You were
Tps7910: then stopped
Kefit42: When was I?
Tps7910: and jumped on Ld
Kefit42: I was discussing my case against Hans with Hans
NotSoFarOff: In the chat.
Kefit42: Then I got a strange vibe from LD
Tps7910: That is considered rallying
Kefit42: So I shared that
Tps7910: Now you might change your vote
NotSoFarOff: Coincidentally.
Kefit42: What the fuck
Tps7910: Like you are with LD
Tps7910: err
Tps7910: HAns
Kefit42: You guys blast people for being inactive
Kefit42: Then when someone shares their thoughts
Tps7910: and you found out that too many poepl are on him
Kefit42: you jump on them
lightdarkness42: god, that took way to long to set my alarm
NotSoFarOff: Kefit42 (10:38:51 PM): You guys blast people for being inactive No?
Kefit42: I am simply presenting another possibility here
Tps7910: We didnt blast you
Tps7910: As I
Tps7910: You just dont like it
Tps7910: cause its against you
Tps7910: As anyone would feel
Kefit42: Very true
Kefit42: Hans, I know how you feel now
Kefit42: Anyway, I was providing another possibility with LD
Kefit42: Take what you will from it
Kefit42: I still have to look through the thread again before coming to any final conclusions
NotSoFarOff: Well, I have to leave in 20 minutes.
NotSoFarOff: And that doesn't leave me in a good position.
Tps7910: I am really confused on waht to do
Kefit42: Hans
Kefit42: Hold on a bit
Kefit42: I'll see if I can come to a conclusion before you leave
NotSoFarOff: Regardless, I'll probably have to vote flux anyway.
NotSoFarOff: Because I believe tps will vote me, even if you change.
Tps7910: Who else has voted him
Tps7910: other then me
NotSoFarOff: Which leaves me in the same position.
NotSoFarOff: Nobody.
NotSoFarOff: Phantom.
NotSoFarOff: 2.5>2
Tps7910: Yup
NotSoFarOff: Actually, you voted flux?
bjstrattonIM: Yes, Tps has most recently voted Flux.
Tps7910: I did
NotSoFarOff: So that leaves me in a knife in a box scenario no matter what, I think.
NotSoFarOff: At best.
Tps7910: Unfortunatel
Tps7910: y
Tps7910: I dont see what wrong can come from you dying, teamwise
Tps7910: if you are human
Tps7910: and there is a tommorow
Tps7910: Then Blah was a wolf
Tps7910: and if you are a wolf
Tps7910: then were still here
Tps7910: If your a human
Tps7910: and Blah was
Tps7910: then we suck
Tps7910: If we dont lynch you
Tps7910: Then you could be a wolf
Tps7910: and a greater chance of not having a tomorrow
NotSoFarOff: Of course, if you were in my shoes, you'd think differently.
Tps7910: I'm not, and this sounds like the best plan to me
Tps7910: THe best chance of having another day
Tps7910: Please in one arguement
Tps7910: Explain your humanity
NotSoFarOff: Um, I'm human?
NotSoFarOff: What do you expect me to say?
NotSoFarOff: In comparison to what?
NotSoFarOff: Blah being a wolf?
Tps7910: The whole Blah situation
NotSoFarOff: I already said this.
NotSoFarOff: In the beginning of this chat.
iunh606t6: back
Tps7910: ok
Tps7910: All you said was that Blah lied to you a lot
QreepyBORIS: So uh
QreepyBORIS: I missed like 30 minutes
QreepyBORIS: what happened?
Tps7910: Umm
Tps7910: Kefit is reading up on LD
QreepyBORIS: Okay.
NotSoFarOff: Kefit is thinking of changin his vote.
Tps7910: I explained my reasoning on Hans
NotSoFarOff: Tps wants to lynch me.
NotSoFarOff: The end.
Kefit42: I read up on LD
Kefit42: And have arrived at nothing new
QreepyBORIS: Wonderful. =/
Kefit42: Except that he has seemingly avoided doing anything of value this game
Tps7910: Well
Kefit42: Which I already knew, pretty much
Tps7910: HE does that every game
NotSoFarOff: Not really.
NotSoFarOff: He usually contributes.
Tps7910: When
Tps7910: Nothing monumental
NotSoFarOff: Um, any other game I remember him being in?
Tps7910: Except TWG 8
NotSoFarOff: But he still contributes.
Kefit42: I looked at all of his posts in the current game, and the vast majority of them were completely meaningless
Tps7910: As Flypies
Tps7910: Flux has few posts
NotSoFarOff: Flypie is a different story, sorta.
Tps7910: biut there meaninful
Kefit42: Its impossible to make anything on flux
Tps7910: Me and Qreepy have a lot
Tps7910: but are useless
Kefit42: Since he has been so inactive
Kefit42: Tps you have been contributing
Kefit42: Just being argued against a lot
Tps7910: That was my original reason on voting him
NotSoFarOff: She's actually...maybe a bit more inactive in other games, I guess.
Kefit42: Flypie's behavior this game is odd
Tps7910: It is
Tps7910: If we are still here tomorrow
Tps7910: that is who my vote will be going to
Tps7910: or FLux
NotSoFarOff: A little girl lives, an old man dies. A fair trade.
Tps7910: Well
Tps7910: Its the best way to get to tomorrow
Tps7910: Sacrifices must be made for the greater good, as long as it's not me
Tps7910: I guess Kilga found something to do
lightdarkness42: so guys, I have to go
lightdarkness42: what is going to happen tonight
Tps7910: I am going with my idea
bjstrattonIM: Not really, I'm just foruming it up.
Tps7910: Best way to get o tomorrow
bjstrattonIM: I check in periodically.
NotSoFarOff: I'm wondering the same thing.





That is the chat so far, from the time I came in.

[Tps222]

Well, everyone was in the chat, so they know my reasoning.

Hanssky

[Kilgamayan]

LD: 1 (flypie)
Tps: 2 (Qreepy, Flux)
Flux: .5 (Phantom)
Hans: 3 (LD, Kefit, Tps)

Less than two and a half hours to go.

[HansSky]

No choice at all here, tps for a knife in a box situation.

[Kefit]

I'd like to do as much as I can to avoid an instalynch on Hans right now, so I am going to switch to LD for the time being.

[Kefit]

Ok, I have made up my mind.

Tps

Screw being passive. I figure if I am going to lynch Tps, I may as well come out and do it instead of just staying on LD.

Besides, this gives me a chance to explain myself. I put together one key thing that makes me much less suspicious of Hans: eb died last night. Hans would not kill eb, since if he were a wolf he needs eb alive to attract votes away from him. Furthermore, tps seems to be a driving force in everything that is happening tonight. From what I understand, he organized the chat, and he kept pushing his "either blah or hans" is a wolf theory over and over again, which was the basis for most of the logic against hans. Yes, I thought that that theory was highly likely to be true, but tps was presenting it as a fact

Could I be wrong? Certainly, just like everything else I have said today. However, in the case that I am not, I strongly believe that the other wolves are LD (for the reasoning I gave in my earlier post) and flypie (it seems to me she has been working with LD throughout the game).

God I hope I am not dead wrong and end up losing the game for all of us.

[Kilgamayan]

LD: 1 (flypie)
Tps: 4 (Qreepy, Flux, Hans, Kefit)
Flux: .5 (Phantom)
Hans: 2 (LD, Tps)

---

The group turned to Ganondorf. "Hey, whoa now. You don't really think I could defend myself from something like that?"

"We already thought that Zelda couldn't. What do you think?" Nana replied.

"I think you guys are crazy if you think you're going to off me! I'm not letting myself get killed by the likes of you losers!"

Falco whipped out his blaster and shot Ganondorf in the eye. "Rules are rules, bucko. And you were so eager for someone to die earlier, so why fight it?"

As Ganondorf grabbed at his eye, Falcon ran over and punched him in the side of the head as hard as he could. Ganondorf was knocked out cold.

"I got this one. Be back in a bit." Falcon dragged Ganondorf's limp body off in the direction of the airlock.

---

It is now Night 6. PMs from all whom I require them of, please.

[Kilgamayan]

After Falcon has left the room, a shout startled the whole room.

"Pika~!"

Everyone turned around to see Pikachu struggling with some unknown force. It fought and screamed with all its energy, but in vain. It wasn't long before the small mouse jettisoned nearly all of its electrical energy all around the room at nothing in particular.

All the lights were fried and the room was thrown into total darkness. Panicked cries came from everyone until a light appear.

It emanated from Kirby's Star Rod, now in Krystal's possession.

"I had a feeling we might need this for that...thing, so I picked it up form Kirby while you were all thinking."

"Wait, where did Pikachu go?"

The mouse was nowhere to be found in the room. A dimly-lit search began, but no one turned him up. Falcon came racing back to the room with the reason why.

"What the hell, guys? I got to the airlock and I saw Pikachu floating out in space, as if someone had just thrown him out before me! What happened here?"

"Looks like our work still isn't over," Peppy said. "Shoot, how many have to die before we finally finish this?"

---

lightdarkness (Yoshi)
flypie743 (Captain Falcon)
HansSky (Falco)
flux_ (Dr. Mario)
Kefit (Ice Climbers)

It is now Day 6, and QreepyBORIS has been killed.

Since there's five of you, obviously one wolf is dead. Is it just the one, or are two gone? If it's only one and you screw this vote up...well, you know.

You have until 9:00 PM EST Thursday to vote. 3 votes is an instalynch. Good luck, and vote wisely.

[QreepyBORIS]

Oh my god I am dead.

Pika.

[flux_]

So, like Kilga said, at least one is dead. The question is, which one was it and who out of the 5 left could be the remaining wolf(ves).
Last round there was the whole ordeal with Hans which you all know about. I think it was Tps claiming that the only way we'd have today would be if Hans got lynched. He didn't, but we obviously have another day. I highly doubt the both are wolves considering tps was one of the main forces out to get Hans, at least in the chat.
Now, I believe Tps was, infact, a wolf. That means the Hans would most likely be human, which would mean blah probably was a wolf after that whole stretchy/blah/hans fiasco.

I still can't rule out that Hans truly be a wolf and we got someone else along the lines who we aren't thinking about, which would mean blah and tps were both human.

I think at this point we need to think about which way is more likely and take a chance on it seeing as how good evidence hasn't been the easiest thing to find.

Just throwing my thoughts out.

[lightdarkness]

There are 5 of us left.

I strongly believe Kefit is human, even though I don't like what he did.

Here is all the voting, seperated by days...

nforcer (5): blah, deltro, eb, Lupin, alain
Lupin (4): Kefit, Jursey, Hans, nforcer
Qreepy (1): nforcer
alain (1): lightdarkness
blah (1): Flux
Flux (1): TPS
Kefit (1): Qreepy
flypie (1): stretchy
stretchy (1): flypie

JurseyRider734: 7 (blah, Hans, eb, Lupin, Flux, Qreepy, Jursey)
flypie743: 1 (lightdarkness)

blah: 3 (Qreepy, stretchy, Hans)
Hans: 1 (blah)
eb: 1 (deltro)
flypie: 2 (LD, eb)
Qreepy: 1 (Tps)
LD: 2 (flypie, Kefit)

Qreepy: 2 (EB, Tps)
deltro: 3.5 (Flux, LD, flypie, Phantom)
eb: 2 (Hans, Qreepy)
Hans: 1 (Kefit)
Flux: 0.5 (Phantom)

LD: 1 (flypie)
Tps: 4 (Qreepy, Flux, Hans, Kefit)
Flux: .5 (Phantom)
Hans: 2 (LD, Tps)


Now, here's the thing. Flux_ has mentioned that we have another day, even though we didn't lynch hans. But ya see... TPS's logic made perfect sense. It was pretty much agreed upon that either blah or hans was a wolf... it had to be one or the other. By lynching Hans, we pretty much guarentee'd ourselves that we have most certainly lynched one wolf. You've played enough TWG's to recognize that. I don't know if your lack of activity is because you don't come to FFR much, or it's a strat

Now guys... Flux already has one phantom, so I think one more vote will instalynch him (3 for insta). If you have the same suspicions as me, don't go voting just yet til we hear everything.

P.S. I'm still really curious of Hans.

[Kilgamayan]

Now guys... Flux already has one phantom, so I think one more vote will instalynch him (3 for insta).

Uh, no.

4. An Insta-Lynch is considered MORE than 50% of all votes on any given day. Phantom votes are considered a minimal fraction of a vote for all intensive purposes (ex. .001 of a vote). If there are 7 players and no phantoms, 4 is needed for an Insta. If there are 8 players and no phantoms, 5 is needed. If there are 7 players + 1 phantom (7.001), 4 REAL votes are needed (3 real + phantom = 3.001, which is not greater than 50%). If there are 8 players + 1 phantom (8.001), 4 REAL votes are needed (4.001 is greater than 50% of 8.001).

4b. Rule for multiple phantoms: any phantom above the 1st shall be treated as a full vote. 2 phantoms = 1.001 votes, 5 phantoms = 4.001 votes. All rules of 4 still solely apply for persons with multiple phantoms.

[lightdarkness]

Which is why I said "I think"