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  • FreezinIce
    FFR Player
    • May 2005
    • 265

    #511
    Maybe at our heart everyone is just an angry mob and we would vote for lynches in TWG if the rules didn't specifically state that we had to.

    Without the hard framework of game mechanics to guide our actions nobody wants to put their faith in a majority vote of their peers
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    To let the world be.

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    Originally posted by Charu
    Wow, all most of my town reads vanished. Thanks Freez for stirring the pot, motherfucker!!!


    Originally posted by mellon_collie
    AHHHHHHHHH SKEET SKEET SKEET SKEET
    Originally posted by roundbox
    AHHHHHHHHH SKEET SKEET SKEET SKEET


    Originally posted by Afrobean
    Lynch all liars is good meta. Period.
    Originally posted by Red
    My guess at this point is that there aren't actually any wolves, and all the humans are just going to kill each other until only a few are left. Then the remaining survivors will realize they are the real monsters.
    Originally posted by TWG Ike
    SCUM THEATER AA SCUM CHARU WOLF ALIEN ROUNDBOX IS TOWN AND FRAMED

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    • FreezinIce
      FFR Player
      • May 2005
      • 265

      #512
      Originally posted by FreezinIce
      Maybe at our heart everyone is just an angry mob and we wouldnt vote for lynches in TWG if the rules didn't specifically state that we had to.

      Without the hard framework of game mechanics to guide our actions nobody wants to put their faith in a majority vote of their peers
      Edited by way of post (ebwop)
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      To let the world be.

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      Originally posted by Charu
      Wow, all most of my town reads vanished. Thanks Freez for stirring the pot, motherfucker!!!


      Originally posted by mellon_collie
      AHHHHHHHHH SKEET SKEET SKEET SKEET
      Originally posted by roundbox
      AHHHHHHHHH SKEET SKEET SKEET SKEET


      Originally posted by Afrobean
      Lynch all liars is good meta. Period.
      Originally posted by Red
      My guess at this point is that there aren't actually any wolves, and all the humans are just going to kill each other until only a few are left. Then the remaining survivors will realize they are the real monsters.
      Originally posted by TWG Ike
      SCUM THEATER AA SCUM CHARU WOLF ALIEN ROUNDBOX IS TOWN AND FRAMED

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      • the sun fan
        FFR Player
        • Mar 2017
        • 658

        #513
        Originally posted by Hakulyte
        Should we try to keep the more obvious top town players in the game to make the end game for wolves more difficult ?
        I feel like a bird in the hand it worth two in the bush in this case
        def better to take a more reliable thing early
        TWG Stats: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

        FFR is a pretty good place somehow.

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        • the sun fan
          FFR Player
          • Mar 2017
          • 658

          #514
          Originally posted by FreezinIce
          Maybe at our heart everyone is just an angry mob and we would vote for lynches in TWG if the rules didn't specifically state that we had to.

          Without the hard framework of game mechanics to guide our actions nobody wants to put their faith in a majority vote of their peers
          there's a kind of game that we would run in video mafia called a king game; the tldr is if we had 16 people in a game, 16 is a very awkward number for balancing a game, so we would just run a 15-player setup, but there would be a king (probably we would call it a monarch now) who would decide the kill at the end of each day

          I forget where I was going with this, some part of your post reminded me of this

          the games were mostly fairly lame, and they fell out of favor at some point.
          TWG Stats: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

          FFR is a pretty good place somehow.

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          • Shadow_God_10
            Somewhere, but not here
            FFR Simfile Author
            • Mar 2006
            • 2227

            #515
            Originally posted by Hakulyte
            Should we try to keep the more obvious top town players in the game to make the end game for wolves more difficult ?
            I mentioned something about this early on but I'm afraid it got ignored...Or got lost...One second lemme find it

            Originally posted by Svaz
            more like Shad-hoe God am I right haha
            Originally posted by mellon_collie
            TIL women have breasts because of horniness
            Originally posted by bugkid666
            sunfan I fucked up
            Originally posted by MixMasterLar
            Xel claiming that I am incapable of making mistakes and using that logic to paint me as scum does things to my body that I thought only Lewdy's stash could do

            Originally posted by Funnygurl555
            your hentai collection is commendable. i am both in awe and afraid of you
            Originally posted by DaBackpack
            might quit having sex every day and focus more on shooting myself in the testicles with an elephant gun

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            • the sun fan
              FFR Player
              • Mar 2017
              • 658

              #516
              Freezin, I guess this is more straight up than I was expecting
              how am I supposed to be finding you town right now?
              what am I missing that you're aghast everyone is missing?
              TWG Stats: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

              FFR is a pretty good place somehow.

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              • Charmoeleon
                Chargrilled, hot & spicy!
                • Aug 2013
                • 267

                #517
                Questions/comments for everyone:

                Gal: What's up? Where you at? What's going on?

                roundbox: How was your drive? How's family? What are your thoughts on the current state of the game?
                Looking forward to your posts.

                raeko: How's family? What are your thoughts on the current state of the game? What specifically do you not like about the quarantine idea?
                Also looking forward to your posts.

                Duc: If you were forced to pick one person to trust fall with right now or lose the game immediately, who would it be and why?

                Lar: Who are your top two wolf reads at the moment?
                Please keep giving your opinions on the game, I think I may place you above Lewdy on my list if you do.

                Lewdy: Would you mind giving your current reads on everyone in one post?
                I still think you were trying to pocket me near the start of the game over a shared connection and my new player status but I'm willing to admit paranoia on this if your reads/posts stand up to scrutiny.

                sun: Why haven't you changed your profile pic to antler-less Louis from Beastars yet?
                I genuinely can't see a world where I will trust fall with you at this point in the game but that doesn't mean it's a 0% chance. It would just take a lot of effort and convincing for me to do so.

                Freezin: Are you going to give reads aside from your null read on sun from a while back or nah? Do you still think sun is null?
                I appreciate you trying to come up with a way to play this out with the quarantine idea but a framework doesn't substitute your lack of reads atm, I feel.

                Haku: As the current most town-read player, who would you feel most comfortable leaving the game with right now?
                I do worry about reaching the checkpoint at the current rate the game is going, and I agree that if we do so, town pretty much throws the game. I really feel like everyone will be fine with whatever you wanna do. Also if you're somehow a wolf, I don't even know what to say.

                Everyone: If you had to nominate a pair of players to trust fall with each other (excluding yourself), who would you choose?
                To answer my own question, I would probably say haku/raeko, as per my earlier read list.
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                • MixMasterLar
                  Beach Bum Extraordinaire
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  • Aug 2006
                  • 5401

                  #518
                  Originally posted by FreezinIce

                  The crab named Toko clicks his claws in happiness. The crab called sunfan who dared to try to climb out of the bucket has been pulled down by others of their kind. As long as all the crabs were in the same bucket, none could be allowed to climb out. We will all be a happy crab family. Forever......forever....

                  For hundreds of years
                  For thousands of years
                  For tens of thousands of years
                  For millions of years
                  For billions of years
                  For trillions of years
                  For hundreds of millions, for thousands of billions, for millions of trillions.
                  For time beyond reckoning, beyond comprehension, beyond understanding

                  A perfect eternity with other crabs in a bucket of their own making, long after the real bucket has faded to dust
                  Truly a Crab-Station

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                  • Shadow_God_10
                    Somewhere, but not here
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    • Mar 2006
                    • 2227

                    #519
                    Originally posted by Shadow_God_10

                    This is actually quite a wonderful idea! Wolves would absolutely bite at the chance to get out of the game quickly with someone new and force a win on their end, so us sticking around does nothing but force them to play deeper
                    It was right here in response to Tokomi's post

                    Originally posted by Svaz
                    more like Shad-hoe God am I right haha
                    Originally posted by mellon_collie
                    TIL women have breasts because of horniness
                    Originally posted by bugkid666
                    sunfan I fucked up
                    Originally posted by MixMasterLar
                    Xel claiming that I am incapable of making mistakes and using that logic to paint me as scum does things to my body that I thought only Lewdy's stash could do

                    Originally posted by Funnygurl555
                    your hentai collection is commendable. i am both in awe and afraid of you
                    Originally posted by DaBackpack
                    might quit having sex every day and focus more on shooting myself in the testicles with an elephant gun

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                    • the sun fan
                      FFR Player
                      • Mar 2017
                      • 658

                      #520
                      Originally posted by Charmoeleon
                      sun: Why haven't you changed your profile pic to antler-less Louis from Beastars yet?
                      I genuinely can't see a world where I will trust fall with you at this point in the game but that doesn't mean it's a 0% chance. It would just take a lot of effort and convincing for me to do so.
                      I don't want to bother figuring out how to change my avatar but I did promise, I guess
                      You should DEFINITELY be more open minded
                      Firstly, because I am town
                      Secondly, because, and I don't mean this because you're new or I'm experienced and big and scary, because I don't think you ought to be worried about that stuff and it doesn't seem like you are
                      there isn't a chance that you're that right on someone this early, regardless of who it is

                      this game WILL force towns to reevalute their opinions or lose the game
                      TWG Stats: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

                      FFR is a pretty good place somehow.

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                      • the sun fan
                        FFR Player
                        • Mar 2017
                        • 658

                        #521
                        ok I misread your post I thought you were saying you would never trust fall with me
                        but you're just saying at this point in the game nvm

                        what I said is still true; this game will necessarily force a lot of reevaluation
                        but you might not need to hear it at this point in time
                        TWG Stats: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

                        FFR is a pretty good place somehow.

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                        • Hakulyte
                          aka Haku
                          • Jul 2005
                          • 4697

                          #522
                          For changing your avatar, you can just click on it and it will lead you to the page to change your avatar.
                          I guess going from the site profile is still broken.

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                          • FreezinIce
                            FFR Player
                            • May 2005
                            • 265

                            #523
                            Originally posted by the sun fan
                            Freezin, I guess this is more straight up than I was expecting
                            how am I supposed to be finding you town right now?
                            what am I missing that you're aghast everyone is missing?
                            I'm not really trying to be read town here. That's just going to be a consequence of my actions that will come naturally if I want it to or not.

                            Time for me to give a hot take that will cause me to get hit by hammers

                            If we arnt going with my Quarantine idea I'm on the borderline of thinking a reads list seems kind of whatever, it's just a tool to air out suspicion and subtly point the finger of shame (tm) at specific people. The issue is without the threat of a lynch this means nothing, and socially it only means as much as each individual person is willing to give it credence.

                            To puf it a different way, no matter how much you think someone is or isn't wolfy in a normal twg, the end result of a end of day vote for a lynch is a universal constant in TWG. Death means the same thing no matter what the reasons are or what people think about it. And death is universally undesirable in TWG as either faction 99 times out of 100 so the threat of it keeps people in line

                            Without that threat in this game, what is considered normal TWG play becomes an invisible fence, a toothless threat. I could just sit around and do nothing all day or act in a way that seems extremely shady by the common metric of TWG play and as long as 1 person isn't bothered by it my behavior won't be punished. That's the main difference that people don't seem to be grasping here.

                            So Toko, no I will not be giving a reads list. Not now. Maybe not ever, who can say? Why does it matter that everyone knows who I'm suspicious of? Free your mind
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                            To let the world be.

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                            Originally posted by Charu
                            Wow, all most of my town reads vanished. Thanks Freez for stirring the pot, motherfucker!!!


                            Originally posted by mellon_collie
                            AHHHHHHHHH SKEET SKEET SKEET SKEET
                            Originally posted by roundbox
                            AHHHHHHHHH SKEET SKEET SKEET SKEET


                            Originally posted by Afrobean
                            Lynch all liars is good meta. Period.
                            Originally posted by Red
                            My guess at this point is that there aren't actually any wolves, and all the humans are just going to kill each other until only a few are left. Then the remaining survivors will realize they are the real monsters.
                            Originally posted by TWG Ike
                            SCUM THEATER AA SCUM CHARU WOLF ALIEN ROUNDBOX IS TOWN AND FRAMED

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                            • FreezinIce
                              FFR Player
                              • May 2005
                              • 265

                              #524
                              Lol toko was another user on the site, because of course they were
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                              To let the world be.

                              ========

                              Originally posted by Charu
                              Wow, all most of my town reads vanished. Thanks Freez for stirring the pot, motherfucker!!!


                              Originally posted by mellon_collie
                              AHHHHHHHHH SKEET SKEET SKEET SKEET
                              Originally posted by roundbox
                              AHHHHHHHHH SKEET SKEET SKEET SKEET


                              Originally posted by Afrobean
                              Lynch all liars is good meta. Period.
                              Originally posted by Red
                              My guess at this point is that there aren't actually any wolves, and all the humans are just going to kill each other until only a few are left. Then the remaining survivors will realize they are the real monsters.
                              Originally posted by TWG Ike
                              SCUM THEATER AA SCUM CHARU WOLF ALIEN ROUNDBOX IS TOWN AND FRAMED

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                              • Shadow_God_10
                                Somewhere, but not here
                                FFR Simfile Author
                                • Mar 2006
                                • 2227

                                #525
                                Originally posted by Charmoeleon

                                Lewdy: Would you mind giving your current reads on everyone in one post?
                                I still think you were trying to pocket me near the start of the game over a shared connection and my new player status but I'm willing to admit paranoia on this if your reads/posts stand up to scrutiny.

                                Everyone: If you had to nominate a pair of players to trust fall with each other (excluding yourself), who would you choose?
                                With regards to my reads list, I need time...I cannot pump this out in a short span of time because I'll have to ISO everyone

                                With regards to nominating two players to I guess we can say "date each other"

                                I would be firing from the hip here but I can see Freezin with Haku for some reason?

                                Don't ask me why...

                                Originally posted by Svaz
                                more like Shad-hoe God am I right haha
                                Originally posted by mellon_collie
                                TIL women have breasts because of horniness
                                Originally posted by bugkid666
                                sunfan I fucked up
                                Originally posted by MixMasterLar
                                Xel claiming that I am incapable of making mistakes and using that logic to paint me as scum does things to my body that I thought only Lewdy's stash could do

                                Originally posted by Funnygurl555
                                your hentai collection is commendable. i am both in awe and afraid of you
                                Originally posted by DaBackpack
                                might quit having sex every day and focus more on shooting myself in the testicles with an elephant gun

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