TWG Turbo 41: Trust Fall! [GAME THREAD]

[Shadow_God_10]

The stealth technology is working great. I think Lewdy can't see your trust fall.

The stealth technology is indeed working well, seeing as I didn't even notice!

I will chalk it up to tired eyes, one brain cell left and exhaustion. I got nothing else, really.

[the sun fan]

idk what's going on anymore
Freezin probably deeply enjoys that regardless of his alignment

regardless of all else, I think that toko and haku are both town and that it would be good for them to accept the trust fall at some point
and Idk what to do with the other attempt

I guess shadow_god is probably just town?

[the sun fan]

if freezin/shadow_god is the team, idk that this is a good play?
it seems very unlikely to be so given shadow_god just straight up didn't notice freezin's attempt

damn
shadow_god is probably just town

alright I'll shut up and go eat lunch I guess

idk where a wolf is now

you're not sane, freezin

[MixMasterLar]

REQUESTING ROLE CLARIFICATION TO HOST

WOLVES CAN NOT TRUST FALL WITH ANOTHER WOLF

MECHANICALLY ARE WOLVES ABLE TO OFFER A TRUSTFALL TO ANOTHER WOLF

[the sun fan]

REQUESTING ROLE CLARIFICATION TO HOST

WOLVES CAN NOT TRUST FALL WITH ANOTHER WOLF

MECHANICALLY ARE WOLVES ABLE TO OFFER A TRUSTFALL TO ANOTHER WOLF

bro you know the rule
you gotta ask this stuff on discord
he is just going to ignore you here

[Charmoeleon]

REQUESTING ROLE CLARIFICATION TO HOST

WOLVES CAN NOT TRUST FALL WITH ANOTHER WOLF

MECHANICALLY ARE WOLVES ABLE TO OFFER A TRUSTFALL TO ANOTHER WOLF

Wolf Trust Falls: While wolves cannot Trust Fall together, a trust fall offer from one wolf to another still binds the player offering trust to the same extent as any other player, and the offer must either be rejected or nullified before the wolf is free to offer trust again. A wolf trustee cannot reciprocate the trust offer of another wolf and the wolfteam instantly loses if such reciprocation is attempted.

This reads pretty clearly to me that they can offer a trust fall to their wolf partner, they just can't accept one from their fellow wolf. Which makes sense, because if they could accept it, well... it wouldn't really be a game at that point, would it?

[MixMasterLar]

bro you know the rule
you gotta ask this stuff on discord
he is just going to ignore you here

No you're right I'm just being guilty of only thinking of the game with half my mind trying to split my attention

OP rule sheet states it's allowed. I had only glanced at the rules likes 4 weeks ago and forgot it

I don't know if this realization changes any of my opinions but it's good to be refreshed

[Charmoeleon]

I don't know what else to say right now other than that I really wish Gal, roundbox, and raeko were here

Also waiting to see if/how Lar replies to my response to his distaste for my offer to Haku

[Charmoeleon]

I have roughly five hours before I'm gone from the thread tonight

Guess I'm gonna go grab lunch and hope that more posts come in while I eat

[Shadow_God_10]

Oh....I guess I need to wonder aloud here...

Each trust fall has a 24 hour time limit yes?

Freezin gave me his trust fall at..... Lemme check for one moment

02:24 (or 01:24 server time)

Does that mean I have until EXACTLY then to respond? Or will it cut off at the checkpoint???

[Shadow_God_10]

Beware, I found the hidden thread viewing technology. Hi Lewdy.
https://www.flashflashrevolution.com/vbz/online

Hold the fuck up here.

What in the 1984 surveillance system is this?! and I'm scared to ask... HOW did you find this?

I'll just move right along down the thread...That WOULD be a useful tool for future games, I guess?

[Shadow_God_10]

I hope this game won't end with us finding a way to break the forums.

It would be absolutely hysterical if the oldheads in here playing a TWG game managed to find a way to break this forum, but that's just my silly two cents here~

[Shadow_God_10]

Fuck, man. I really don't want to do this, but with Freezin's offer to Lewdy on the table, I feel like I don't have a choice.

I trust Hakulyte.

I'm sure this may ruffle some feathers, given all I've said in this game so far is that I want to go to the end. I really, truly do. But that was in the context of a new player seeing how long it took this game to fill up and not knowing when my next opportunity to play would arise, as well as me wanting to help town out with various reads throughout the game. Clearly there are some here that do not want that, and after sleeping on it, I feel like it's something I should respect. Given how the game is designed, I could stay here until it's myself, another town, and a wolf, and I still wouldn't have any control over what that other town player does. At some point, all I can do is offer my own reads, leave the game, and let my role flip validate my point of view on things, encouraging others to use it as a point of reference, not an end-all be-all guide for who to trust. And unfortunately, that has to be sooner than later for me, because I won't be around tonight. I have a previous commitment that I need to be present for.

I also understand that even if Haku accepts this, it doesn't stop Lewdy from trusting Freezin in any way, shape, or form. The thing is, I just don't want that to feel like the only option to avoid the first checkpoint. Lewdy is currently bottom three in my town reads, hovering on the edge of being wolf. Thing is, I have to imagine that even a sleep-deprived, delirious wolfLewdy accepts the trust fall from Freezin immediately, assuming they aren't wolf partners. That also leaves Freezin, who I initially had as null town lean, but given the chaotic nature of their posts, I also don't trust them fully atm. I don't feel like a wolf would draw so much (negative?) attention to themselves, but I also don't know how Freezin usually plays, given I've only ever paid attention to the previous game that was played, and one game is not a big enough sample size to form an opinion on.

Even given my reservations, I take a chance falling with Haku here over a potential Freezin/Lewdy fall to get past the first checkpoint 99 times out of 100.

I do agree with Haku that if we don't at least try for a town/town trust fall here, we throw the game. If we wait until the last minute to try and figure something out, there's more likelihood for a wolf to sneak out. I know I'm town, and Haku is my strongest town read right now. If I'm wrong, then I'm truly sorry. But this is where I feel things stand, and as much as I may not like it, I think this is the right move for town to have a good foothold in the game.

I like this logic Tokomi, I really, really do...

BUT...

I do feel like there seems to be a bit of panic in these words and a sense of desperation.

Even IF we flub up and SOMEHOW we miss and a wolf leaves the game, that is OKAY! We all take a collective breath and realize that there is now a 1 in 8 shot of us hitting the other wolf...Someone smarter than me do the math here...I think that's 12.5%?

We are mathematically more likely to throw two darts at a board and hit two towns than hit one town and the other wolf.

We ALSO have a whopping six days left, please keep that in mind.

[Shadow_God_10]

6 and a half days, pardon me.

[Shadow_God_10]

I'm confused why Toko is feeling so pressed. Does he think town will not find another pairing in the next *checks watch* 11 hours?

(At least I think that's when the day ends)

I think the "day ends" at the expiry date of the first confession??

I might be wrong, but if I'm NOT wrong, you just bought town an extra 4 hours which is BIG