R^n: Shifting Paradigms

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  • hi19hi19
    lol happy
    FFR Simfile Author
    • Oct 2005
    • 12194

    #121
    Re: R^n: Shifting Paradigms

    Doing it by ear in x0.3 works fairly well, check out my steps for The Knights Who Say Ni on Bemanistyle

    But seriously, I'm interested in entering. I'll see what good song I can dig up. I have some surf music I've been wanting to step, but I am afraid that all I'll wind up with is streams or minijacks.


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    • Yesssss
      FFR Player
      • Jul 2005
      • 2522

      #122
      Re: R^n: Shifting Paradigms

      Originally posted by aperson
      To sync wavering bpms get a wav editor like goldwave. Choose an interpolation of the bpm you are comfortable with [i.e. every 4 quarter notes or 8 quarter notes]. Select a section that large for the part you want to check. Copy/paste the selection then see how long it is and then use that length to get the bpm. Then select the next set of notes and do the same. Voila, perfect syncing for wavering bpms.
      I don't have my music math up to par so what would the formula be?
      I have a 4 quarter note clilp of 2.792 seconds, and I think the bpm is about 60 (it will be doubled in order to sync it properly).
      YOU JUST WON THE GAME! CONGRATULATIONS!

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      • aperson
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        • Jul 2003
        • 3433

        #123
        Re: R^n: Shifting Paradigms

        Originally posted by Yesssss
        I don't have my music math up to par so what would the formula be?
        I have a 4 quarter note clilp of 2.792 seconds, and I think the bpm is about 60 (it will be doubled in order to sync it properly).

        60/[2.792/4] = 85.960 bpm

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        • talisman
          Resident Penguin
          FFR Simfile Author
          • May 2003
          • 4598

          #124
          Re: R^n: Shifting Paradigms

          it's more intuitive the other way: beats over seconds times seconds over minutes = beats over minutes.

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          • aperson
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            • Jul 2003
            • 3433

            #125
            Re: R^n: Shifting Paradigms

            Originally posted by talisman
            it's more intuitive the other way: beats over seconds times seconds over minutes = beats over minutes.
            Frequency and period in physics has ruined my mind apparently, I think the other way.

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            • Z3ratul
              FFR Player
              • Jun 2004
              • 940

              #126
              Re: R^n: Shifting Paradigms

              The problem I'm coming across now is that for it to be very accurate (to where I can't tell any difference on .5 (or less) rates), I need to interpolate at least every quarter note... preferably every eighth. Is this common, should I overlook it... IDK.

              EDIT (FTW): Regardless, I'll take the time. It's just bothersome is all.
              Originally posted by Grandiagod
              My father rapes me with logging equipment and my mother is a three legged grizzly bear going through menopause.

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              • aperson
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                FFR Simfile Author
                • Jul 2003
                • 3433

                #127
                Re: R^n: Shifting Paradigms

                If you're stepping something with that much variation you should probably just sync it manually in .3

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                • Z3ratul
                  FFR Player
                  • Jun 2004
                  • 940

                  #128
                  Re: R^n: Shifting Paradigms

                  Originally posted by aperson
                  If you're stepping something with that much variation you should probably just sync it manually in .3
                  That's what I initially thought. Darn. Regardless, the other way is really helpful. I'll just let my ear be the judge on this one. Thanks again, it's nice to have questions answered, especially by somebody who isn't pulling the answers out of their ass.

                  EDIT (I like EDITs today): The Goldwave method pretty much solved my gap. Woot. I think I saw that in a sticky somewhere...
                  Last edited by Z3ratul; 05-10-2006, 11:26 PM.
                  Originally posted by Grandiagod
                  My father rapes me with logging equipment and my mother is a three legged grizzly bear going through menopause.

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                  • Bursurk_Lurk
                    Banned
                    • Sep 2005
                    • 2360

                    #129
                    Re: R^n: Shifting Paradigms

                    Aspergian

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                    • Benny1
                      FFR Player
                      • Sep 2003
                      • 1147

                      #130
                      Re: R^n: Shifting Paradigms

                      no not aspergian, I'm bored and stepping the minute waltz thats in ffr, even though there is no way it could get into this pack, because it would be unplayable.

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                      • Bursurk_Lurk
                        Banned
                        • Sep 2005
                        • 2360

                        #131
                        Re: R^n: Shifting Paradigms

                        Originally posted by Bursurk_Lurk
                        Aspergian and that song ap sent me
                        fixed

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                        • hi19hi19
                          lol happy
                          FFR Simfile Author
                          • Oct 2005
                          • 12194

                          #132
                          Re: R^n: Shifting Paradigms

                          What exactly are we looking for here? Is it original as in no bland quasar/emerald sword 16th streams? Is it required to have actual bpm changes (not just doubling) and/or syncopations?

                          I've got a file I'm working on, and it has a set bpm and mostly stays to 8ths and 16ths. I personally think, however, that it is very original. For one, it is surf music (yay). Is there some way I could check to make sure that I'm on the right track before I get going too far? (Would a screenshot help?)


                          Sorry for the barrage of questions.


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                          • aperson
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                            • Jul 2003
                            • 3433

                            #133
                            Re: R^n: Shifting Paradigms

                            Originally posted by hi19hi19
                            What exactly are we looking for here? Is it original as in no bland quasar/emerald sword 16th streams? Is it required to have actual bpm changes (not just doubling) and/or syncopations?

                            I've got a file I'm working on, and it has a set bpm and mostly stays to 8ths and 16ths. I personally think, however, that it is very original. For one, it is surf music (yay). Is there some way I could check to make sure that I'm on the right track before I get going too far? (Would a screenshot help?)


                            Sorry for the barrage of questions.
                            Original as in different from the stepmania norm. If you send it to me and I reject it you can just release it online, so no, you don't need to send me screenshots to make sure you're on the right track.

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                            • T0rajir0u
                              FFR Player
                              FFR Simfile Author
                              • Aug 2005
                              • 2946

                              #134
                              Re: R^n: Shifting Paradigms

                              You know what I think would help? If ap posted a short list of "good" songs (along with BMS links) that are the kind of originality and fun and innovation he's looking for, and then another short list of "bad" songs that use techniques he wants people to avoid.
                              hehe

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                              • Sol_Solis
                                FFR Player
                                • Aug 2005
                                • 661

                                #135
                                Re: R^n: Shifting Paradigms

                                Wouldn't people then just copy the good ones?

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