View Full Version : TWG VI - Bombs Away - Day 5/Night 6 Wolf Victory
lightdarkness
December 7th, 2004, 05:34 PM
All PM's sent.
Here is an example of a human PM
You are a HIKER
Please don't cheat, if you have any questions regarding rules, please contact me.
The other roles had more written.
Roles in this game.
1 Master Wolf
2 Wolves
Seer
Guardian
Vigilante
Humans
Send me your info :-P
Story starts after Night 1
Tasselfoot
December 7th, 2004, 11:00 PM
thought y'all would like to see this... Pre Game spreadsheet. feel free to keep your own copies based off this layout.
lightdarkness
December 8th, 2004, 06:32 AM
“Synthetic light tours, this way” shouts a tour guide.
There were 16 people in line for a tour of Mount Soccr, all excited to treck up the mountain.
“We will need to go through some safety procedures.” The tour guide shouts, “First of all, be wary of avalanches, they are rare in this part, but you should be aware of them. Secondly, make sure you are with a buddy at all times. Thirdly, and most importantly, have fun!”
“I am Juan, your tour guide. I will be taking you up the mountain, and showing you the sights. We will be up there for aprox. 5 days, but if all of you would like to stay longer, we can do that” Juan explained. “We will leave tonight, as to set up a base camp when it is daylight, off we go!”
The first four hours were easy enough for the 16 climbers, with no incidents occring. Only when they took a rest… something happened.
“Whats that rumbling?” asks Q.
“It is most likely nothing, we should keep moving” Juan suggests.
“No, it’s getting louder,” says Tass, “I think something is going on”
“Oh My God! AVALANCHE!!!!!” Juan shouts as he runs for his life.
The others try and get away, but they start to get pummeled by snow and rocks.
A few hours later, most of them started to wake up.
“Is everyone alright?” asks 87x
Several people nod.
“We should take a count,” suggests Squeek, “Weren’t there 16 of us?”
“Excellent idea, and yes, there were 16, let me do a count.” Omeganitros starts counting, and when he gets to 15, he stops. “Someone is missing.”
“LOOK OVER THERE” shouts Afrobean “It’s a body!”
Several of the hikers rush over, to find Evilbutterfly’s body covered in the snow and rubble.
“Look up there!” HansSky points “It looks like someone set explosives off up there!”
“Your right!” adds blahblah, “Someone did this on purpose! But who?”
“I’m not sure” says snapps, “but we better start heading down the mountain.”
“Great idea” adds eyespew, “lets go!”
It is now DAY 1.
In this game, there is a master wolf, 2 wolves, a seer, guardian, and vigilante.
Days will be at a max of 36 hours. Instalynch’s can occur after 12 hours, but only on the hour. For example, if there are enough votes for a person to be instalynched at 6:32, they will not be killed til 7. Day will automatically end if all votes are in.
If you have any questions, please contact me. Please don’t cheat, if you are unsure if something is against the rules or not, please contact me and I will let you know.
Good luck!
Player List:
87x
Afrobean
Alainbryden
BlahBlah
Cypher
Evilbutterfly
eyespew
HansSky
Kefit
Kilgamayan
Snapps
Omeganitros
Q
Squeek
Tass
Tps222
Squeek
December 8th, 2004, 06:52 AM
As a side note from the story, congratulations for making a working rule for insta-lynches.
As another side note: "flys" is not how you pluralize "fly". Put it this way. EVERY word that ends in "y" is pluralized "-ies" after dropping the "y". Therefore, you spell it "flies".
Aside from that, no other errors bother me (but they are prevalent). I'll assume almost every other player is at school now, so I'll just wait until about 3pm to read this thread again.
~Squeek
Snapps
December 8th, 2004, 08:32 AM
Hmm...
Evilbutterfly's name is not capitolized ever, so its evilbutterfly.
Just a quick YFI ;)
Kilgamayan
December 8th, 2004, 08:33 AM
*capitalized
*FYI
HansSky
December 8th, 2004, 09:22 AM
First of all- Yeah, I'm at school right now.
Second of all- My first TWG game...should be fun.
Third of all- Don't know why EB was killed. I do have some suspicion that it might not have anything to do with this game because of what happened last game...but anywho. I know there are stronger players out there, but the wolves might be in fear that they would be guardianed. I dunno, but I'll wait to check this again once I get home.
Tasselfoot
December 8th, 2004, 12:06 PM
well... lets think of everything we know about EB from last game.
he worked closely with afro and snapps
he was very active
he proved that he was willing to be patient, look over the evidence presented, and then make an educated vote
with those 3 points, it doesn't seem such a bad idea to knock off EB. there are certainly more obvious people to kill (me, q, kilga), but there is almost a 0% chance that EB would be guardian'd.
not sure yet whether i'm concerned with afro/snapps or if they are being set up. one of those two reasons seems to be the most likely reasons.
lastly... no offense, but it would have been absolutely hilarious if kefit died on night 1 again.
87x
December 8th, 2004, 12:15 PM
heh, it sure would of Tass. Anyway, I think EB wasn't at all a bad choice to get rid of, I actually thought he did really good last game and the wolves probably saw the same thought provoking qualities in him that I and Tass did. To be honest I didn't read too much of the last game, just becuase the days where so damn long it left too much time to talk, and I really didn't feel like catching up on all those pages. So if anyone could point out some specific pages I should read that would be awesome. Also, could I get a dead line on when the day will be over?
Tasselfoot
December 8th, 2004, 12:36 PM
7:32pm EST FFR time on Thurs... OR Insta-Lynch after 12 hours... OR when all votes are in.
HansSky
December 8th, 2004, 01:41 PM
I guess the question really is at this point...who would want to get rid of EB? We really have nothing else to go on at this point.
EDIT: Heh...I said at this point twice. My bad.
Tasselfoot
December 8th, 2004, 01:43 PM
well... lets think of everything we know about EB from last game.
he worked closely with afro and snapps
he was very active
he proved that he was willing to be patient, look over the evidence presented, and then make an educated vote
not sure yet whether i'm concerned with afro/snapps or if they are being set up. one of those two reasons seems to be the most likely reasons.
please read what others write. thanks.
Kilgamayan
December 8th, 2004, 01:51 PM
Eee bee seems like a good target for wolves who don't really want to give anything away. Killing someone prominent is a good way to attract attention and start discussion, but kill enough "just kind of there" players and all the really good players will be left, all suspicious of each other, and the number of wrong lynches they can make has decreased considerably without "Why is this good player still alive? I bet they're a wolf" speculation possibilities.
I seriously doubt Afro or Snapps had anything to do with this.
blahblah18
December 8th, 2004, 02:00 PM
I think Kilga hit the nail on the head... I mean what point in there is trying to frame someone like afro or snapps... what does it gain anyone, because it woudl be so easily seen through if it was a setup..
evilbutterfly
December 8th, 2004, 02:25 PM
Bloody hell, it's evilbutterfly. Never Evilbutterfly. Not even at the beginning of a sentence. evilbutterfly is my name, or eb if you wanna be lazy. If I wanted it capitalized I would have written it that way when I first signed up.
Anywho, I kinda feared that I would die. I suppose I'll just have to come back and whoop ass next game.
blahblah18
December 8th, 2004, 03:00 PM
whats up with all the capitalization nazis here? Its really quite absurd and humorous. Signing Off.
-Darkwing Duck-
blahblah18
December 8th, 2004, 03:19 PM
Why should we be killing anyone? We should be headed down the mountain! But if somehow we did decide that the best way to save us was to kill each other as we climbed down said mountain, then we better think as to who it was. I agree with what Kilga said, but what I would like to know is his proposal on what to do about it. Any ideas or suggestions?
evilbutterfly
December 8th, 2004, 03:32 PM
I just hate when my name has caps in it. My other name I use on various sites is Diablo Loco, which I prefer caps'd. evilbutterfly just looks better to me.
Now, I have a request. Please, could everybody PM me or IM me (evilbutterfly87) and tell me whether you are wolf/human/whatever. This isn't to cheat or anything (I've already promised I wouldn't, because I still feel bad about doing it by accident last time), it's for my own personal knowledge. I observed TWG IV as a clueless person with no role, I played TWG V as a human, and now I'd like to be able to observe TWG VI knowing everything from the start. I think it would be interesting to see how people play out each role. I believe this will help me get better at the game, both in knowing how to properly play future roles and in learning to read other people. Again, I promise that I will absolutely not tell anything to anybody. I won't even talk to people about the game (not even Afrobean!) just to be sure I don't affect anything. I wanna see this one from the same position a game mod would.
So yeah, PMs are preferable (so if I forget (and I will) and so I don't have a ton of IM windows open). Thanks if you comply, but I understand if you don't.
Tasselfoot
December 8th, 2004, 03:43 PM
eb... just ask LD. he is the host, its his call, and he has all the roles.
if i were him i would say no, but thats just me.
lightdarkness
December 8th, 2004, 04:07 PM
eb... just ask LD. he is the host, its his call, and he has all the roles.
if i were him i would say no, but thats just me.
I agree with Tass
evilbutterfly
December 8th, 2004, 04:11 PM
Oh well. Maybe the people playing will tell me themselves, because I really wanna be able to see it all as it happens. I could go back through and read an old TWG and see who is who beforehand, but it's easier and better when you see it as it happens, I think.
The_Q
December 8th, 2004, 04:15 PM
Well, I can't thing of anything...
Right now my three largest worries are (of course) Tass and Kilga. Squeek follows closely, too.
I know I'm human because I'm mildly upset at not getting a cool role. Especially Vigilante. That'd be awesome.
Q
lightdarkness
December 8th, 2004, 04:15 PM
Hey EB
Guess what!
You're dead! ;-)
alainbryden
December 8th, 2004, 04:17 PM
Well hello all. I'm refreshed from a 5 hour night of sleep and ready to point some fingers. eb, sorry you got wolfed bud. Yes, eb is a good choice to be wolfed, he's sharp, but unlikely to get guarded. At this point I don't think there's much more of a reason to take out eb. It's more likely that it's someone from the last game who would know how valuable eb's mind is to the humans, but that doesn't say much, because with three wolves and so many returning players, it's unlikely that one of them wouldn't be a wolf this round.
eb, I don't think you should be getting everyone's information. It's just a weird thing to ask, and you can learn just as much by knowing what everyone was at the end of a game and then going back and rereading the entire thread. I know it's more work, but that's how everyone else has to do it. Hopefully, after last game, we are going to keep a closer eye on that whole giving no one an unfair advantage thing.
And ld, story's awesome, but as blahblah indicated, your story doesn't really give us reason to be voting to kill eachother atm :P. Doesn't really matter though.
Q, not a good Idea to post something like "obviously I'm a human because..." Whether you're human oir not, this is what caused Snapps so much trouble last game. Plan your posts to be a little more ambiguous.
lightdarkness
December 8th, 2004, 04:23 PM
And ld, story's awesome, but as blahblah indicated, your story doesn't really give us reason to be voting to kill eachother atm :P. Doesn't really matter though.
Yes I'm quite aware, this is taken care of after you all vote for day one.
blahblah18
December 8th, 2004, 04:24 PM
All I know is this.. kefit's alive, therefore he MUST be a wolf haha ... or maybe it isn't a laughing matter..................DUN DUN DUN
alainbryden
December 8th, 2004, 04:25 PM
Yeah that's true, maybe the only reason Kefit didn't die first day again is because Kefit's a wolf :P
Kilgamayan
December 8th, 2004, 04:39 PM
That reminds me.
Since Kefit is no longer the Night 1 kill, I feel I can make the following suggestion without fear of being accused of making it in self-interest: I think anyone who gets wolfed on Night 1 should get an automatic sign-up for the next game if they want one. This game is hard to get into, and I know I'd be really pissed if I arranged my "schedule" around being able to get into the game only to find out I won't get to play it and will have to wait over a week before I can attempt to play again.
blahblah18
December 8th, 2004, 04:42 PM
interesting, but that should be discussed in a different thread, lets find the damn commies/terrorist/wolves/godfathers/EcoScum that set off that avalanche!
The_Q
December 8th, 2004, 04:44 PM
Alain, do you see the little banner in my sig? I'm pretty sure I know what I'm doing.
Q
Tasselfoot
December 8th, 2004, 04:46 PM
Kilga.... see, i feel the opposite... we have an MVP award, but its meaningless right now. nothing special on the banners, no rewards... i think the MVP(s) are the ones who should get a free entry into the next TWG. they are the people who worked hardest on the previous one to win.
EDIT: hahahahaha Q! you just ride my coattails to victory. especially TWG4.
Afrobean
December 8th, 2004, 04:50 PM
There really seems to be no reason for eb to have been killed. Except for one thing. Flypie and eb have a sort of hatred thing for one another. I think I'll wait for flypie's response to this accusation before I cast a vote though.
PS I do think it's quite suspicious that Kefit wasn't wolfed first night. It may indicate that Kefit himself is a wolf as mentioned by others. I know if I was a wolf, I'd want to kill Kefit first night to keep the joke going.
Tasselfoot
December 8th, 2004, 04:51 PM
Afro... flypie isn't playing. so, you'll be waiting a long time for her to post.
Kefit
December 8th, 2004, 04:54 PM
Yeah that's true, maybe the only reason Kefit didn't die first day again is because Kefit's a wolf :P
Discovering that I had lived past night one was a joyous event for me, but then I realized that people would begin speculating in exactly the way you and blahblah have =/
Seeing as I was wolfed night one twice in a row, I figure that the wolves feared that the guardian would think, "Hey, I think I am seeing a pattern. Maybe I should guard Kefit tonight." Or maybe the wolves just decided that it was time to change things up. Or that I had been tortured enough.
Kilgamayan
December 8th, 2004, 04:55 PM
Alain, do you see the little banner in my sig? I'm pretty sure I know what I'm doing.
Cocky much?
alainbryden
December 8th, 2004, 04:56 PM
hehe, true enough. Wolves probably thought it was risky.
blahblah18
December 8th, 2004, 05:01 PM
kefit I said I was joking, don't make me soudn like the bad guy here man.........
The_Q
December 8th, 2004, 05:04 PM
Tass: I do, but it's true that I know how to do it in style.
Kilga: This moment of ego brought to you by annoyance.
I'm still working something out to find someone to vote for.
Q
Kilgamayan
December 8th, 2004, 05:05 PM
Understood.
eyespewgreekfire
December 8th, 2004, 05:07 PM
first off, Q said this.
Right now my three largest worries are (of course) Tass and Kilga. Squeek follows closely, too.
As the joke goes, theres 3 kinds of mathmiticains, those who can count and those who cant.
In all seriousness thought, Q your remark about being human sounded rather fishy. No I dont think youre a wolf, but that remark suggests it. (a stupid wolf at that :P) Kefit also seems a possibility because otherwise people would want to continue the joke. Ugh all of this logic seems so terrible. You know what, so as not to vote randomly and to avert phantoms, until i get suspicious enough to vote... eyespewgreekfire
Squeek
December 8th, 2004, 05:19 PM
Oh frik. It's 6 already. And I said I'd be back at 3. Look what I missed :/
Well, from the discussion going on, it seems we've pinpointed the reasoning for the kill, but we still haven't determined the killer. It's like the first half of CSI.
Alas, I have no idea either. I was kinda expecting someone to off Kefit again for whatever reason.
~Squeek
Afrobean
December 8th, 2004, 05:22 PM
I'm in
flypie
I have wanted to host for like ever :<
I assumed she was added to the roster. I'm sorry for not checking the list before making an accusation. She was like 9th to post there too.
By the way:
evilbutterfly87 (6:17:03 PM): why isn't flypie playing?
lightdarkness42 (6:17:39 PM): schoolwork
Thanks a lot eb.
Well, I guess the best I have to go on right now is the Kefit thing. This kinda sucks, so I'll vote in the same manner eyespew did and vote Afrobean. This is only to avoid a phantom vote, and the idea that I'm relatively sure people won't bandwagon on me.
lightdarkness
December 8th, 2004, 05:24 PM
You have 36 hours people.
lol.
Tasselfoot
December 8th, 2004, 05:29 PM
hey guys... why don't we ALL vote for ourselves. HAR HAR HAR. that would be really hard work on LD.
wtf are you two doing... stop being qreepy (he isn't exactly someone i would want to emulate) and stop voting for yourselves. you have until 7:30pm tomorrow night to vote... and i don't think either of you will be away from FFR for the entirety of the next 25 hours.
lightdarkness
December 8th, 2004, 05:40 PM
I think people thought 7:30 tonight, from your post tass :-P
YOU GUYS HAVE AN ENTIRE DAY LEFT!
Tasselfoot
December 8th, 2004, 05:48 PM
7:32pm EST FFR time on Thurs... OR Insta-Lynch after 12 hours... OR when all votes are in.
i don't get what is so hard about that.
Afrobean
December 8th, 2004, 05:50 PM
hey guys... why don't we ALL vote for ourselves. HAR HAR HAR. that would be really hard work on LD.
Well, I have reason to believe that I may not be able to get on FFR tommorow, so I was just trying to keep myself safe. If you think it's such a bad idea, would you rather me random vote?
Oh well, it doesn't really matter, I've decided to vote Kefit for reasons stated above.
alainbryden
December 8th, 2004, 05:51 PM
omg, we only have a half hour left *panic* *panic* okay, I uh vote Qreepy. He's been suspiciously quiet o_O
Afrobean
December 8th, 2004, 05:54 PM
It seems that the reason for Qreepy's silence is the fact that he's not in this game.
Horay! I'm not the only one to not check the roster.
PS I suggest you all go read it right now before you make the same mistake.
EDIT:
87x
Afrobean
Alainbryden
BlahBlah
Cypher
Evilbutterfly
eyespew
HansSky
Kefit
Kilgamayan
Snapps
Omeganitros
Q
Squeek
Tass
Tps222
alainbryden
December 8th, 2004, 05:56 PM
It seems that the reason for Qreepy's silence is the fact that he's not in this game.
Horay! I'm not the only one to not check the roster.
PS I suggest you all go read it right now before you make the same mistake.[/quoteDemontratingWhoDidn'tGetMyJoke]
Afrobean
December 8th, 2004, 06:00 PM
It seems that the reason for Qreepy's silence is the fact that he's not in this game.
Horay! I'm not the only one to not check the roster.
PS I suggest you all go read it right now before you make the same mistake.[/quoteDemontratingWhoDidn'tGetMyJoke]
I thought that you may be joking, but there was one thing you did. You bolded it. Bolding it makes it an official vote. Therefore, right now, you're voting for someone who is not in the game.
Tasselfoot
December 8th, 2004, 06:06 PM
ugh, whatever. stop bickering.
to get things started, i'll toss a vote on Cypher. he's usually active at night and in twgs... but he hasn't made a post yet.
alainbryden
December 8th, 2004, 06:09 PM
Okay, well then according to afrobean my official vote is currently for qreepy. I really hope he gets voted off.
evilbutterfly
December 8th, 2004, 06:24 PM
I vote for evilbutterfly. That bastard called me a wolf! Oh wait, me and him are both dead!
*lays back down in his snowy grave*
eyespewgreekfire
December 8th, 2004, 06:24 PM
I vote for 87x because of this post:
heh, it sure would of Tass. Anyway, I think EB wasn't at all a bad choice to get rid of, I actually thought he did really good last game and the wolves probably saw the same thought provoking qualities in him that I and Tass did. To be honest I didn't read too much of the last game, just becuase the days where so damn long it left too much time to talk, and I really didn't feel like catching up on all those pages. So if anyone could point out some specific pages I should read that would be awesome. Also, could I get a dead line on when the day will be over?
Talking so much about the wolves in the third person like this seems rather fishy. This whole line of saying it was a good choice and all seems odd.
CypherToorima
December 8th, 2004, 07:17 PM
Sorry I wasn't here but i do have school, and I had a project I needed to finish.
Bah, I hate day ones. There is hardly anything to go on, let alone it being the first day that this was open. Hopefully people will post alot between now and deadline.
Tps222
December 8th, 2004, 07:36 PM
First of all- Yeah, I'm at school right now.
Second of all- My first TWG game...should be fun.
Third of all- Don't know why EB was killed. I do have some suspicion that it might not have anything to do with this game because of what happened last game...but anywho. I know there are stronger players out there, but the wolves might be in fear that they would be guardianed. I dunno, but I'll wait to check this again once I get home.
Hmm...he is trying to sell the whole innocent newb idea, and is obvisiously selling that he is human, and has been quiet since. I'm not going to commit to him completey, but wait for some more posts to come up, and think it out.
Yes, but look, he said that the wolves might be in fear. To me that sound like, "i am not a wolf, nope not me".
alainbryden
December 8th, 2004, 08:17 PM
First, Tps222, congradulations on your first post so far this game. You should talk. I think that HansSky was right on the ball with the EB comment, and he never once pressed that he was human, he kept is post completely inconspicuous, and as a new player, it was very well done. I think Tps was throwing a complete red herring in bringing his name up. There's nothing in the least strange about HansSky, and the game has only been open for a half a dozen hours, so only the craziest of us have had a change to post more than once so far. There's no selling of any ideas by Hans, he didn't even raise a suspicion of someone being a wolf, Tps is looking to start something with no firewood. He's my biggest lead right now.
HansSky
December 8th, 2004, 08:20 PM
What, lil' old me?
Nah...but, I'm following Tass on this one and voting for Cypher
This is subject to change, by the way.
alainbryden
December 8th, 2004, 08:23 PM
Hans, as much as I defended you, you didn't really have a reason to vote for Cypher just now. Tass was premature with that vote, infact it was a suspiciously bad reason for him to make such a vote, and Cypher explained himself for taking so long to get to a computer. Don't be starting bandwagons just yet.
Kilgamayan
December 8th, 2004, 08:26 PM
My vote is for HansSky for blindly following Tass just because he's Tass.
HansSky
December 8th, 2004, 08:29 PM
I did say it was subject to change. And reason being why I put a vote in now:
I might be very busy tomorrow up until and through 7:30PM(either I will be busy, or won't be doing anything at all)...So, I don't know if I'll be able to even touch a computer before day 1 is over.
Like I said, it could very well change. I have some other reasons why I picked Cypher, not because Tass did. I did that because I agreed with him...and my vote may change, but I'm going off of some other things running through my mind, also.
alainbryden
December 8th, 2004, 08:40 PM
care to share?
Omeganitros
December 8th, 2004, 10:47 PM
All I've got so far are gut feelings. Well, that may not be entirely true, but as of right now I'm running mostly on emotion. I gotta pick up on this game fast.
Though I don't have a very convincing reason for why as of now, my vote goes to Kilga, at least until I study this more.
Snapps
December 8th, 2004, 11:25 PM
K I finally get to post because I haven't been home in over like a ton of time, roughly 13 hours.
Let me read over the game and i'll see what I think so far.
87x
December 9th, 2004, 12:23 AM
Heh, I got voted for for pointing out obvious reasons on why the wolves would vote someone off. I said what everyone was thinking and I get a vote for it. Whatever..
I still haven't seen anything worth voting for someone. Cypher isn't talking much, but **** happens, Real like does take presidence over the internet, can't blame him for that.
Kefit not getting wolfed, not much to work with there. There are plenty of other better choices than kefit to get wolfed, I still don't see why he got voted off first in the other two games.
Im not really likeing this bandwagon thing but then again, just because someone votes the same way as a popular player doesn't mean it's a bandwagon vote, they could just believe in the reasoning.
Anyway, I will be holding off on voting until some more people bring up some ideas, or until someone says something stupid on accident.
Omeganitros
December 9th, 2004, 07:42 AM
After spending all night looking over what everyone said, the only conclusion I have come to is that my previous post looks alot like something a seer would say.
Tps222
December 9th, 2004, 11:36 AM
First, Tps222, congradulations on your first post so far this game. You should talk. I think that HansSky was right on the ball with the EB comment, and he never once pressed that he was human, he kept is post completely inconspicuous, and as a new player, it was very well done. I think Tps was throwing a complete red herring in bringing his name up. There's nothing in the least strange about HansSky, and the game has only been open for a half a dozen hours, so only the craziest of us have had a change to post more than once so far. There's no selling of any ideas by Hans, he didn't even raise a suspicion of someone being a wolf, Tps is looking to start something with no firewood. He's my biggest lead right now.
Look I was pointing this statement:
HansSky said:"Third of all- Don't know why EB was killed. I do have some suspicion that it might not have anything to do with this game because of what happened last game...but anywho. I know there are stronger players out there, but the wolves might be in fear that they would be guardianed. I dunno, but I'll wait to check this again once I get home.
He said wolves like he wasn't one, i thought that looked obvious to some people, maybe i jumped the gun, it looked suspicious to me, but maybe i need to get better at analyzing, well im at school now, won't get back till 2:30
Snapps
December 9th, 2004, 11:38 AM
I vote myself
lightdarkness
December 9th, 2004, 11:39 AM
I vote myself
Myself is not a player in this game.
Vote not counted.
Squeek
December 9th, 2004, 12:07 PM
My first vote goes to Snapps for being the third person to vote for themself.
You have to be able to choose SOMEONE by now. Come on.
~Squeek
alainbryden
December 9th, 2004, 12:23 PM
wtf? Did omegantros just suggest that he's the seer?
alainbryden
December 9th, 2004, 12:32 PM
Half time show
Omeganitros
December 9th, 2004, 01:33 PM
Maaaybe.
I'm trying to think like the enemy. They'll be looking for the seer.
Tps222
December 9th, 2004, 01:33 PM
That's a good organizer to sum everyting up, thx alain, now i don't have to go and review over every page.
blahblah18
December 9th, 2004, 02:00 PM
its an interesting dichotomy between the people that have voted and those that haven't...
Tasselfoot
December 9th, 2004, 02:20 PM
also... tps. alain's guide is nice, but he doesn't have everyones words. in the end, it not only comes down to votes, but also to what people say. i highly recommend everyone to re-read the thread each 5 pages or so. alot gets said, and without re-reading it, we lose out on the subtleties of the moment.
87x
December 9th, 2004, 02:25 PM
for lack of information to go of off I will be excepting a phantom vote: I will explain later...
Afrobean
December 9th, 2004, 03:22 PM
*accepting
Also, why not just vote yourself or random vote? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I heard that phantom votes last until the end of the game.
PS please explain soon.
blahblah18
December 9th, 2004, 03:23 PM
i think it makes sense.. he's trying to show that since he's not a wolf, a phantom vote doesn't bother him, and since he doesn't want to leap to any accusation, why vote
blahblah18
December 9th, 2004, 03:43 PM
I think there's already some fued gonna start going down between kilga and Tass and I want to see how it alters, and who chooses what side. I also wonder why Tass has kept his vote on Cypher and with Cypher being the leading candidate right now, that kind of scares me. Omega is kinda being coy about this whole seer thing... so odds are either way he'll be dead so I hope he's not the seer and then that's good for the humans.. because every time the wolves kill a nonrole at ngiht, thats the best the humans can hope for. So if Omega is the seer, I hope he does something more substantial then what he's already done, but since I have nowhere else to vote right now, I'll make my vote kilgamayan
lightdarkness
December 9th, 2004, 03:46 PM
Cypher (2) - HansSky, Tass
Kilga (2) - Omeganitros, blahblah
Kefit (1) - Afrobean
Tps222 (1) - Alainbryden
87x (1) - eyespew
HansSky (1) - Kilga
Snapps (1) - Squeek
Hasn't voted: a lot of you
Deadline is at 7:30 tonight.
CypherToorima
December 9th, 2004, 04:10 PM
I vote myself
Flypie did the same thing a couple games ago. Look where that got her. She was a wolf, by the way.
Kefit
December 9th, 2004, 04:21 PM
Although I wish I had more to go on, if I don't vote now then I don't know if I will make it back to this thread before day one ends. Because of this, I am now going to vote for Omeganitros based on a hunch.
CypherToorima
December 9th, 2004, 04:48 PM
Hans, you have yet to explain your reasoning for voting for me besides following tass.
Kilgamayan
December 9th, 2004, 04:55 PM
I think there's already some fued gonna start going down between kilga and Tass and I want to see how it alters, and who chooses what side.
...?
Tps222
December 9th, 2004, 05:13 PM
87x is being too quiet for me... he is acting like he is definitely not a wolf by taking a phantom vote, trying to show he is not afraid to take 1 vote, as a sign. My opinion could change depending if 87 ever explains his tactics.
The_Q
December 9th, 2004, 05:19 PM
Ok, I think I'm going to stick with Squeek.
Q
lightdarkness
December 9th, 2004, 05:20 PM
Cypher (2) - HansSky, Tass
Kilga (2) - Omeganitros, blahblah
87x (2) - eyespew, Tps222
Kefit (1) - Afrobean
Tps222 (1) - Alainbryden
HansSky (1) - Kilga
Snapps (1) - Squeek
Omeganitros (1) - Kefit
Squeek (1) - Q
About a hour left boys.
CypherToorima
December 9th, 2004, 05:29 PM
I'm going to go with snapps this round. Like I said before, flypie did that, and she turned out to be a wolf.
Snapps
December 9th, 2004, 05:30 PM
I vote for lightdarkness
lightdarkness
December 9th, 2004, 05:33 PM
I vote for lightdarkness
If you throw another lame vote like this in the game, you will be removed.
Tasselfoot
December 9th, 2004, 05:34 PM
i'm curious blahblah.... what fued between me and kilga? i haven't talked to him once this game.
i mean, i know he and i don't always see eye to eye on the forums, but i don't think we've had any issues either on or off the forums. plus, i know he doesn't like to be bothered on AIM about TWG, so i avoid talking to him.
and, i explained on AIM about cypher. i'm 102% clueless right now, so i feel that my vote is as much on a random guess as anything else. i know its very uncharacteristic for me, but not much has been said this game to go off of.
Snapps
December 9th, 2004, 05:34 PM
Damnit XD
Ok i'll really try now. And I'm going to vote for Cypher
blahblah18
December 9th, 2004, 05:38 PM
I was just saying how I could have seen some snide comment by you about how people Should listen to what you say or something. I dunno, it just seemed like it was going to happen... and I still think snapps is just ridiculousl... now voting for cypher cuz cypher voted for him... who knows anymore,. this is al lridiculous
lightdarkness
December 9th, 2004, 05:38 PM
Just so you know, all votes are in except 87x's, who says he is expecting a Phantom Vote.
However, voting will not close til the 36 hour deadline, unless 87x comes and votes before then.
The deadline is aprox. 7:30 tonight (50 minutes from this post).
CypherToorima
December 9th, 2004, 05:50 PM
ok what the hell. People are just throwing in random votes. Probably now that I'm defending myself people will be all like 'omg u r defening urself u must be a wulf' and there is a revenge vote that's gonna get me lynched. who want's to be friggin random voted off'd. If this is how you guys are gonna play this game, I don't see humans winning.
Tasselfoot
December 9th, 2004, 06:05 PM
switching my vote to Snapps
1. you're an idiot. this has been proven now in multiple TWGs
2. you have no respect for the game, as shown by your actions this game
3. i don't wany cypher to be voted off, at least not yet....
4. you bandwagoned onto my vote with no reason whatsoever.
lightdarkness
December 9th, 2004, 06:08 PM
Snapps (3) - Squeek, Cypher, Tass
Cypher (2) - HansSky, Snapps
Kilga (2) - Omeganitros, blahblah
87x (2) - eyespew, Tps222
Kefit (1) - Afrobean
Tps222 (1) - Alainbryden
HansSky (1) - Kilga
Omeganitros (1) - Kefit
Squeek (1) - Q
lightdarkness
December 9th, 2004, 06:31 PM
writing
lightdarkness
December 9th, 2004, 06:50 PM
“Lets take it slow, we don’t want any of us to get hurt, especially since our guide is gone” Tass explains.
“Good idea, that path over there looks…” Blahblah’s words were halted by a sudden explosion. Snow went everywhere, followed by rubble, and everyone started covering their heads.
After all the rubble stoped falling, frantic chatter started.
“WHAT, THE ****, WAS THAT!” 87x shouts.
“It looked like an explosion Einstein.” Cypher exclaims with a sarcastic tone.
“Well, I don’t think Mother Nature did that” Snapps added, “It seems someone doesn’t want us to get down from here. Do you think there are enemies among us?”
Just as he finished his sentence, another large explosion was heard, only this time, it was far away.
IT CAME FROM CHARDISH CITY.
The entire city was leveled, as a shockwave was sent out, the hikers watched in horror as buildings were annihilated one by one. Fires breaking out across the city, scorched land followed.
No one spoke for about 15 minutes, no one moved, not even a muscle.
“Yes Snapps, I do think there are enemies among us.” Kilga says as his jaw lay wide open, “but why would they be here?”
“Isn’t it obvious?” Tass said, “So they could hide from the blast.”
“That is true,” HansSky says, “but how are we to know who they are?”
“Well…” Kefit starts, “We could take a vote as to who we think the bad guys are, and then push them off a cliff or something. Does anyone object to that?”
Everyone shook their head in agreement, as to look nonchalant. (OMG LD USED A BIG WORD)
“Um.. I guess we should take a vote then” Snapps states, “Um, who wants him to die?”
A few hands rise. This continues for about 3 minutes.
“Uhh, I’m the last one left, who wants me to die?” Snapps says.
Several hands raise, those of Squeek, Cypher, and Tass.
“WHAT!?!?!?!? ME? But I just came up here to see the scenery! I’m no explosive expert!”
“They have voted, ” Kilga states, “and you must obey by the rules we set forth, it is only fair, it seems we won’t be able to get down the mountain without more explosions.”
“Fine, but you will be hearing from my laywer!” Snapps shouts.
“Your lawyers dead, idiot” Alain says, as he pushes Snapps from the mountain.
It is now NIGHT 2. Those who need to contact me, please do so.
For future reference, those who are lynched will appear in blue, and those who are wolfed will appear in red.
lightdarkness
December 9th, 2004, 09:07 PM
“Ok, with that done, we should start setting up camp for tonight” suggests Blahblah.
“Great idea,” says Tass “Hopefully we can reach the bottom tomorrow.”
Everyone sets up their tent, and starts to drift off into a deep sleep.
The night passes without a sound made.
The next morning, everyone arose just as the sun did.
“Are we all here?” asks Q.
“Yea, appears that way.” Alain said “Hey Q, whats that thing on your neck?”
“Huh? What thing? Where?” Q reachs on his neck, to find a small rectangular object attached to his neck. He pulls it off his skin.
A HUGE EXPLOSION overcomes Q, as his head goes flying through the air.
“HOLY **** WHAT THE **** JUST HAPPENED!” shouts Kefit.
“HE JUST HAD HIS HEAD BLOWN OFF!” shouts HansSky even louder.
“Alright, this is hardcore, we need to vote again, and quickly, there is still an enemy present.” Eyespew says quickly.
It is now DAY 2.
7 votes is instalynch.
36 hours @ 10:10am on Saturday.
CypherToorima
December 9th, 2004, 09:11 PM
HOLY CRAP THAT WAS VIOLENT! but would there even be a head left?
Squeek
December 9th, 2004, 09:12 PM
...
Was anyone else expecting something...different?
"Q reachs on his neck, to find a small rectangular object attached to his neck. He pulls it off his skin. A HUGE EXPLOSION overcomes Q, as his head goes flying through the air."
Is this a modern-day hike up a mountain outside a leveled city with random people or some time in the future?
LD, I think I need to teach you a few things about fiction stories.
~Squeek
Edit - I just got the title. Clever.
Tasselfoot
December 9th, 2004, 09:14 PM
well... Q got what he wanted:
xanderman2064: I might give up my position in TWG. I don't want to play anymore.
xanderman2064 signed off at 5:27:52 PM.
xanderman2064 signed on at 6:17:40 PM.
TasselFoot: y?
xanderman2064: because it's getting old and stale
and i was almost completely trusting of him too... guess i was right to be. oh well. damned wolves killing off the people i talk to.
also, hard to pin killing Q on anyone... he's the 2nd best player as per the stats. everyone would want him dead.
blahblah18
December 9th, 2004, 09:20 PM
first of all.. this is why I"ll be running for TWG overlord(moderator) for next game, and it shall be fairly awesome
Tasselfoot
December 9th, 2004, 09:22 PM
stop campaigning and start playing. no one cares about TWG7 while TWG6 is going on.
HansSky
December 9th, 2004, 09:22 PM
It seems that the only person that had the slightest of problems with Q(in this game) was Kilga. But this was only because of his arrogance, and I really can't put blame on Kilga for that.
Going along with Tass, he really is one of the best players here, so he's a threat to anybody.
Not a clue yet...I'll see how this progresses and then try and start to process something in my head.
blahblah18
December 9th, 2004, 09:26 PM
well I think Tass seems like top threat here so far. And I'm going to voice all these concerns out here, because might as well let the whole world know. As he's said in previous games, he plays to win... and as a human the way to win is to create some form of alliance. Every game where he's been human he's been very vocal in everything from the very start , including tlaking about the seer and trying to find the seer. In the games where he's been a wolf, he's waited for other peopel to talk and then counters their arguments. Its just a different style, but its been pretty consistent over the 5 previous games, and since there's actually a nice sample of both styles (see TWG I and TWG IV for when he's a wolf), I can fairly say that so far he's acting as the Wolf Tassel isntead of the Human Tassel, and he most likely will be my vote for today.
lightdarkness
December 9th, 2004, 09:27 PM
I've got a crap load of HW tonight, so I couldn't make the story super awesome for you guys.
Sorry :-P
Tasselfoot
December 9th, 2004, 09:35 PM
one thing Blah.... how many posts have i made this game? thats right... more than anyone else.
PS - look at TWG5. i wasn't very vocal early on there either.
PPS - Q was the only person in my alliance, as i haven't been graced by the seer yet.
alainbryden
December 9th, 2004, 09:39 PM
I dissagree LD, I think that the story was super awesome, and the title is brilliant. *clap*
evilbutterfly
December 9th, 2004, 09:55 PM
no one cares about TWG7 while TWG6 is going on.
I care... :cry:
Oh, sorry. *ghost eb returns to his body, which is now quite frigid. so cold...so lonely...*
alainbryden
December 9th, 2004, 10:23 PM
As far as I'm concerned Tps, blah, Tass, Omegantros, Hans and Cypher have been drawing the most attention to themselves.
I think people are still acting weird about cypher's suspicious ways last game. I don't see him causing such a commotion this game. If anything, that's what's suspicious.
Blah seems to be drawing a reaction out of tass and kilga, probably to judge where they stand by their reactions. I'm pretty sure he would be so openly and strongly accusatory about more than one person if he were a wolf. I place no suspicion on blah.
Tass is a tough character to read, he is always careful to act the same way in every game, regardless of his character, and I think he's succeeding in doing this now, I hold no suspicion for him.
I have my reasons for being suspicious of Tps, no one else seems to share these, I'm still keeping a suspicious eye on him though, awaiting his next post.
Hans seems to be our typical n00b starting crap unintentionally. He's trying to be more objective now and smarten up. A typicall Snapps case if you ask me, but I wouldn't put it past him. He's still on my suspicion list but not too high.
I usually don't watch kilga very closely in games, but he's seemed to be less active a poster than in the other games. He's usually tracking rules, insulting peoples' intelligence, and being somewhat off-topic once in a while alot more than he is in this game. I would consider this change in behaviour to be a wolfy precaution on his part, but I do not consider this observation at all grounds for suspicion. Any number of factors, from current schedule to the events of last game could have changed the behaviour of how kilga is now posting.
I'm also going to put in a good word for Omegantros. He's been posting alot of weird things and voting for alot of weird reasons if any at all. Don't be fooled people. If there are any half intelligent wolves on the team they would be keeping him off the boards. For the beginning of the game, this isn't much to go off of. I would be more wary of other peoples' attempts to make him a public target, because it would be so easy.
Those who I haven't mentioned, are doing a good job of keeping themselves out of the cross-hairs. I consider this behaviour suspicious in itself. By the end of day2, those still keeping fairly quiet should start being observed more closely. There's usually one or two wolves that like to stay underground, while the other (usually the master wolf or one of the more experienced wolves) works on manipulating the image of others on the forums.
That's my two cents. Keep your guard up.
Omeganitros
December 9th, 2004, 10:47 PM
Jolly good post, alain.
I would have to guess these wolves have some good wits. Two people wolfed, and we still don't have any fingers to point. But then again, most of us here are critical thinkers...
I, myself, am not looking for the wolves as much as I am looking for the other special roles. They have to be almost just as careful to not reveal themselves, and finding your allies can help find your enemies.
87x
December 9th, 2004, 11:11 PM
Alright, Sorry everyone for my somewhat attention grabbing post on day 1. The situation went like this.
I woke up at 10 am, before my alarm sounded and figured I would go back to sleep until it did sound. Well, it never did. So I woke up at 2:58 and had to be at work at 3. So I rushed to get a shower and as I was getting out of the shower my friend came over. He got online, and I figured I would use him as a means to comunicate with you all to atleast somewhat explain what I was going to do for day 1. I called him from my cell phone on the way to work and told him to write what I posted word for word. As if I was able to post from my phone, I would of said the same thing.
I didn't see anything worth, maybe, voting someone off over. So I just didn't vote.
As of right now, I still see nothing worth voting on someone over but I have read what everyone has written and Im starting to form some opinions of my own.
Everyone just remember.
"Being in the publics eye, Keeps you out of the eye of the public".
-Me.
Snapps
December 9th, 2004, 11:17 PM
HOLY HANNUKKAH I AM DEAD
I like how I died, I even flew on the way down the hill :D.
NOW I CAN FLAI AWAY!
Squeek
December 10th, 2004, 10:07 AM
As far as I'm concerned Tps, blah, Tass, Omegantros, Hans and Cypher have been drawing the most attention to themselves.
Those who I haven't mentioned, are doing a good job of keeping themselves out of the cross-hairs. I consider this behaviour suspicious in itself.
Ok, so those 6 people are the most suspicious...and everybody else is too... wait. That puts me back to square one on this one. Consarn it.
I really wish there was more to go off of at this point, but I'm re-re-re-re-reading the thread hundreds of times and not particularly finding anything that Alain didn't point out already.
~Squeek
87x
December 10th, 2004, 12:27 PM
Forget what Alain said and form your own opinion, we reading something that someone has already reviewed people tend to skip things and look only at what was already discussed like thats the only thing there. Time to look into who would want The_Q killed. That narrows the feild down to everyone. evil could have just been a random killing on someone they knew wouldn't be guardianed, but they took a risk going for Q. Q as a confirmed human would of proved quite benficial for us. Maybe someone that was once in an alliance or someone who was the guardian once before who would know the tactics of the person as the guardian.
Maybe some of the new players because of the risk taken, maybe a smarted player trying to play it off as the new players. Maybe a combination of experience and lack of experience which would make the new players just be led around by more experienced. Hopefully one of the new players is the master and they make themself obviouse.
We should look at the quiet ones, by the 8th page people should of said atleast something intelligent or thought provoking, that is unless they don't want to provoke thought.
HansSky
December 10th, 2004, 02:10 PM
One person that sparks my interest is Kilga. His post count thus far is about five or six, but all but one of these posts have actual content in them(pertaining to the game). Every other time he posted has either been to vote, or no more than one line comments. So I pulled out his only decent post for all to look at and study.
I also find it odd that he only said something of interest when eb was killed. Or, when there was nothing to go on. Since then, he has basically kept his mouth shut.
Eee bee seems like a good target for wolves who don't really want to give anything away. Killing someone prominent is a good way to attract attention and start discussion, but kill enough "just kind of there" players and all the really good players will be left, all suspicious of each other, and the number of wrong lynches they can make has decreased considerably without "Why is this good player still alive? I bet they're a wolf" speculation possibilities.
I seriously doubt Afro or Snapps had anything to do with this.
Tps222
December 10th, 2004, 02:21 PM
Ok. I've become less suspicous of 87 now after he gave an explanation of his phantom vote. I believe what he said because you can't change your schedule for a game. I'll still keep an eye on him, though. Also, it seems Kefit has been very quiet lately, only having 2 posts, and not talking much in them,it seems to me he is trying to go unnoticed, and looks like he is getting away with it so far, im gonna have to wait and see if and what he posts.
Afrobean
December 10th, 2004, 03:07 PM
I'm still suspicious of Kefit. Not only was he not wolf'd first day, but he's been pretty quiet. I'd expect someone who had such suspicion cast upon them to talk more to prove their unwolfishness.
Also, can someone give an estimate for the cutoff for voting?
Kilgamayan
December 10th, 2004, 03:18 PM
For everyone who's finding my silence weird, I can't do my work if you don't give me my tools.
alainbryden
December 10th, 2004, 03:41 PM
I'm pretty sure all the tools you need are in your head. Unless of course by tools you mean people you can use to your benefit, because you're a wolf! :P If you mean you can't work without your materials, they lay strewn around you. Everyone is trying to see what fits together. It's the only way to get anywhere. Make claims and see what people say. If we don't pick up some serious cases here, the wolves are gong to take us out pretty quick.
Kilgamayan
December 10th, 2004, 04:09 PM
All right.
I'll take a stab and vote blahblah because the comment about me getting into an argument with Tass was stupid since it was obvious we hadn't talked to each other. Looks like he's just trying to pull stuff out of thin air.
blahblah18
December 10th, 2004, 05:52 PM
i wasn't saying argument, I said I could see one happening, because you yelled at someone for voting just cuz tass voted for him, and I was expecting tass to say something like "well of course he should, I'm me!!" etcetera etcetera :)
thats all I was getting at... and I was curiosu if anyone else woudl take sides... I"m just trying to spark sometyhing, anything,
eyespewgreekfire
December 10th, 2004, 06:10 PM
I vote for squeek for the following reasons:
1. His reason for voting for snapps (that snapps voted for himself) was rather bogus in my opinion. He may as well have voted for me for starting the trend.
2. Q voted for him and Q was wolfed. This early in the game that sort of thing is too subtle to be reversed psychology.
3. He has not provided any thoughts whatsoever about his opinions in any post except his one voting for snapps, and that was a simple one liner.
This sort of anonymous behavior seems very wolfy to me.
Kefit
December 10th, 2004, 06:33 PM
Ok. I've become less suspicous of 87 now after he gave an explanation of his phantom vote. I believe what he said because you can't change your schedule for a game. I'll still keep an eye on him, though. Also, it seems Kefit has been very quiet lately, only having 2 posts, and not talking much in them,it seems to me he is trying to go unnoticed, and looks like he is getting away with it so far, im gonna have to wait and see if and what he posts.
I've been very busy with school and work the last few days, especially today, which is part of why I haven't posted much.
The other reason is because I feel the same way as Kilga; that is, I feel that there is almost nothing to go on at this point. No one is really any more suspicious to me than anyone else.
Which makes what I have to do now difficult. It's a wonder that I even got to get on the computer today for the 15 minutes I have right now, and in a few minutes I will be leaving for work for the rest of the night. I know I won't be able to get back to this until tomorrow (even if I do come home right after work, I will NOT want to be thinking about this game at that time), which means I have to choose a vote now.
Anyway, I'm gonna place a vote for 87x, even if it isn't based on much more than a hunch. Hopefully tomorrow I will have some more time to devote to this.
alainbryden
December 10th, 2004, 06:38 PM
Alain, do you see the little banner in my sig? I'm pretty sure I know what I'm doing.
I was rereading and just thought that maybe someone was looking to frame me for Q. I know I probably would have voted him off for his cockiness there.
HansSky
December 10th, 2004, 06:41 PM
Damnit eyespew...I was going to say the same thing. Although, I am still undecided of who to vote for.
Squeek
December 10th, 2004, 06:44 PM
I vote for squeek for the following reasons:
1. His reason for voting for snapps (that snapps voted for himself) was rather bogus in my opinion. He may as well have voted for me for starting the trend.
2. Q voted for him and Q was wolfed. This early in the game that sort of thing is too subtle to be reversed psychology.
3. He has not provided any thoughts whatsoever about his opinions in any post except his one voting for snapps, and that was a simple one liner.
This sort of anonymous behavior seems very wolfy to me.
1. Day one voting is near impossible to base it on anything relevant. Tass voted Snapps in the end because he was annoying him.
2. also, hard to pin killing Q on anyone... he's the 2nd best player as per the stats. everyone would want him dead.
3. Now I can. Thanks. Honestly, how could I earlier? Everybody was random voting and nothing came up. If you want me to be more forward, I will.
Alainbryden is starting to ring a few alarm bells in my head. He's following some trends I've noticed in previous games from the wolves of those games and it just seems noteworthy. Therefore, Alainbryden will be my vote for now.
~Squeek
Afrobean
December 10th, 2004, 06:47 PM
Ok... I'm going on a hunch here. I'm voting for Omeganitros.
After spending all night looking over what everyone said, the only conclusion I have come to is that my previous post looks alot like something a seer would say.
It seems to me that he's trying to make sure people don't vote him by implying that he may be the seer.
Tasselfoot
December 10th, 2004, 06:51 PM
afro... also, I, myself, am not looking for the wolves as much as I am looking for the other special roles. They have to be almost just as careful to not reveal themselves, and finding your allies can help find your enemies.
if that is what you are basing your info on. i've been looking for omega on AIM, and haven't seen him on. i'd like to talk to him about his statements.
blahblah18
December 10th, 2004, 06:54 PM
I too have beenon an omega AIM watch, with no sightings
alainbryden
December 10th, 2004, 07:26 PM
In Chronological order
I know I'm human because I'm mildly upset at not getting a cool role. Especially Vigilante. That'd be awesome.
Q, not a good Idea to post something like "obviously I'm a human because..." Whether you're human oir not, this is what caused Snapps so much trouble last game. Plan your posts to be a little more ambiguous.
Alain, do you see the little banner in my sig? I'm pretty sure I know what I'm doing.
Alain, do you see the little banner in my sig? I'm pretty sure I know what I'm doing.
Cocky much?
Kilga: This moment of ego brought to you by annoyance.
Understood.
All I've got so far are gut feelings. Well, that may not be entirely true, but as of right now I'm running mostly on emotion. I gotta pick up on this game fast.
Though I don't have a very convincing reason for why as of now, my vote goes to Kilga, at least until I study this more.
After spending all night looking over what everyone said, the only conclusion I have come to is that my previous post looks alot like something a seer would say.
wtf? Did omegantros just suggest that he's the seer?
Maaaybe.
I'm trying to think like the enemy. They'll be looking for the seer.
A HUGE EXPLOSION overcomes Q, as his head goes flying through the air.
, myself, am not looking for the wolves as much as I am looking for the other special roles. They have to be almost just as careful to not reveal themselves, and finding your allies can help find your enemies.
I was rereading and just thought that maybe someone was looking to frame me for Q. I know I probably would have voted him off for his cockiness there.
Alainbryden is starting to ring a few alarm bells in my head. He's following some trends I've noticed in previous games from the wolves of those games and it just seems noteworthy. Therefore, Alainbryden will be my vote for now.
So much has just been pulled together after reading these specific people speak. I'm pretty tight with blahblah right now, and quite sure that he is human. He has been pretty envolved in the Kilga issue too. I encourage people to reread the entire thread like I just did, but also include blahblah's accusations to Kilga and Tass and their responses. I tried my best not to make this a huge quote fest where half the thread was reiterated, but it took all this for me to make the connections I did. I'm mostly trying to highlight what Omegantros has suggested, in addition to my potential for being framed for Q, which clearly is working with Squeek, (giving him the generous assumption that he's human.) Whatever is going down here, I'm pretty sure that it's either going to come out Kilga or Omegantros. For reasons I can't quite explain except for the connections I'm seeing with all those quotes next to eachother, my belief is that Kilgamayan is the wolf in this scenario.
CypherToorima
December 10th, 2004, 07:31 PM
Alain, I fail to see any sort of connections between the posts. You're voting kilga because you thought he would kill Q for annoying him, even though he understood why Q was being cocky? I'm not sure because you hardly put any reason at all for voting kilga.
alainbryden
December 10th, 2004, 07:59 PM
First wake up was omegantros' claims. I don't know if he's such a n00b as to post on the forums that he's the seer, but if he did and he said he saw kilga, then that's the first suspicion. Next, I pissed off Q, He got pissed off, and Kilga acknowleged his reason for being pissed off at me. If anyone would be more aware of the possibility of framing me for Q's death, Kilga wins suspicion on this account. Blah voted kilga at one point, just to push a reaction, and kilga did react, but in a way I'm unable to interpret with insight. I mean, I know that there are other reasons for killing Q, but alot of it would seem to point to me all of the sudden. Finally, I didn't want to suggest a more personal level, but I wasn't kilga's best friend as masterwolf last game and being accusatory of his hosting skills, but I am under the impression that if had the opportunity to put a jump on me, he wouldn't think twice. Kilga has posted very strangely so far this game. He has put in 8 posts, which is more than I can say for alot, but it's just the very blunt, uncontrovertial, less-critical, uncharacteristic nature of the posts. Everyone is entitled to their hunch and this is my BIG hunch. Whether people find it invalid, I don't mind, but Kilga's twisting my gut instinct right now. He has my vote.
CypherToorima
December 10th, 2004, 08:28 PM
Alright, I sorta see the kilga link thing. It's vauge, but somewhat of a link nonetheless. but the omega thing...I see it more of a "I'm gonna get suspision on me so the seer may be save" type of deal
Omeganitros
December 10th, 2004, 08:30 PM
I'm trying to trust only myself, by mostly cutting myself off. No AIM, no Online/Offline status, the works. But if you need to contact me in private, I'm willing to talk via PMs.
And though I try to trust nobody, if I should come to need someone's trust, I will expect it.
Frankly, Afrobean's vote disturbs me as of now.
I'm still suspicious of Kefit. Not only was he not wolf'd first day, but he's been pretty quiet. I'd expect someone who had such suspicion cast upon them to talk more to prove their unwolfishness.
Using the fact that Kefit wasn't wolfed on day one as a reason seems kinda silly to me. Believe me, the thought has crossed my mind as well, but right now I don't think Kefit has given us any real reason to vote him. I could give Afro the benefit of doubt since this is also his first game, but I'm not going to. I expect him to be smarter than that. I expect him to not possibly be playing dumb.
Afrobean.
alainbryden
December 10th, 2004, 08:41 PM
I now have to retract my statement about omegantros' claims. If he actually had seen Kilga he would have hopped onto my vote. Since this is clearly unsupported, I withdraw my support for omegantros, and my vote for kilga and instead hold a neutral vote for myself until I get a new lead. alainbryden Sorry for wasting board space.
lightdarkness
December 10th, 2004, 08:48 PM
Alain (2) - Squeek, Alain
87x (2) - Phantom Vote, Kefit
blahblah (1) - Kilga
Squeek (1) - eyespew
Omeganitros (1) - Afrobean
Afrobean (1) - Omeganitros
Alain is in the lead as far as votes goes, because a regular vote counts more than a phantom vote.
7 for insta, 36 hours is at 10am tomorrow.
Omeganitros
December 10th, 2004, 08:57 PM
The only person I could ever truley trust is a Vigilante who revealed himself.
I don't want to trust any of you, but I probably will end up doing just that.
And you all shouldn't be so quick to trust me. And since it's your choice whether to trust me or not, I have no problem saying right now that I am not a Vigilante, and thus I have no incentive to reveal myself.
CypherToorima
December 10th, 2004, 08:58 PM
wait, what?
and thus I have no incentive to reveal myself.
alainbryden
December 10th, 2004, 09:02 PM
He just meant that since he's not vigilante, he has no reason to tell us what he is, because we have no reason to beleive him.
Omeganitros
December 10th, 2004, 09:08 PM
Frankly, Afrobean's vote disturbs me as of now.
Afrobean wrote:
I'm still suspicious of Kefit. Not only was he not wolf'd first day, but he's been pretty quiet. I'd expect someone who had such suspicion cast upon them to talk more to prove their unwolfishness.
I made the retarded mistake of reading that post and thinking that Afrobean had voted Kefit. ld's update on votes just made me realize my error.
Many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many apologies to Afrobean. I withdraw my vote and put it on....ummmmmm.....Well, I withdraw my vote.
lightdarkness
December 10th, 2004, 09:09 PM
You can't withdraw your vote.
It can be changed.
Omeganitros
December 10th, 2004, 09:20 PM
Well, bugger.
Then I vote for HansSky, because nobody else in their right mind should vote for him, and I don't want to seal anyone's fate just yet, including my own.
alainbryden
December 10th, 2004, 09:23 PM
hence why I voted for myself
Omeganitros
December 10th, 2004, 09:31 PM
But that would give me 2 votes. If I did that, one more vote could be my death.
You've brought yourself up to 2 votes, and I'm not going to vote for you, but who's to say someone else might?
HansSky
December 10th, 2004, 10:09 PM
I've thought long and hard of who to vote for here, and you have no idea how difficult it was to decide.
So....I didn't. My vote goes to Tass, because I don't think anybody else is going to be willing to vote for him.
alainbryden
December 10th, 2004, 10:24 PM
Tps222 still hasn't shown up, so my vote is going back to him for the same reasons as before. Jumping on Hans before he has any case for him, and then ignoring those actusations subsequently.
87x
December 10th, 2004, 11:00 PM
Well, im sorry for seeming suspicious, buts what happens when you try and express your opinions about other people. You automatically seem as if you are diverting the attention away from yourself. Anyway, I work from 3 pm till 11:30 pm everyday except sunday when I work 11 am till 7:30 pm, and mondays and wednesdays when I have off.. So no posts for me 8 hours a day 5 days a week, and most of the time during the prime time of this thread. So if I don't respond to accusations it's probably because I'm at work and I can't.
Now, after all of this I will vote for Hans it just looks like to me that he is only doing what other people are doing, which means he either doesn't want to explain his own actions, it doesn't matter who he votes for cause he's a wolf, or he's trying to use other peoples logic as a defense as to what he is doing. I just doesn't set right with me.
alainbryden
December 10th, 2004, 11:09 PM
I will vote for Hans
bolded 4 u
Omeganitros
December 10th, 2004, 11:10 PM
*Slaps forehead*
Oy...
alainbryden
December 10th, 2004, 11:12 PM
AA OML consistantly!
Omeganitros
December 10th, 2004, 11:23 PM
Guys, we better start getting somewhere by Day 3. We can't continue like this.
CypherToorima
December 10th, 2004, 11:28 PM
I'm going to vote for tass
he's been a bit shady and quite compared to his other games. He also hasn't mentioned alliances, which is usually a big advocate for.
Tasselfoot
December 10th, 2004, 11:41 PM
for the record... i've mentioned alliances alot over AIM to omega, eyespew, alain, blahblah, and q (when he was alive).
i also believe i mentioned something about the seer in this thread.
if i didn't make myself clear enough.... if we want to win (and by we, i mean the humans)... i need to work with the seer. i'm assuming i've already been seered (cause i always am), and i've been cleared as a human.... so, please confront me. or, seer me tonight and then confront me.
look at the votings from day 1 and day 2. its awful. 4 people voting for themselves, multiple random votes, one phantom. and today is no better. whoever gets 3 votes is going to die for the 2nd straight day. this is complete BS. we're voting for 7+ different people. obviously none of us have any idea WTF is going on... so mazal tov to the wolves so far. i'm confused as the rest of you.
and to omega and hans.... how about this. STOP VOTING FOR PEOPLE WHO YOU DON'T WANT TO GET LYNCHED, AND START VOTING FOR PEOPLE WHO YOU DO WANT TO.
my vote is going to Tps222. this guy took the time to IM me before the game started, and was very excited to play. since the game started... he hasn't IMed me. i find this odd for someone who is human (the only time i wolf has IMed me in the 4 games i've been human is alain. everyone else has been human). toss in the reasons that Alain stated, and its the best i have to go off of.
lightdarkness
December 10th, 2004, 11:46 PM
HansSky (2) - Omeganitros, 87x
Tass (2) - HansSky, Cypher
TpS (2) - Alain, Tass
87x (2) - Phantom Vote, Kefit
Alain (1) - Squeek
blahblah (1) - Kilga
Squeek (1) - eyespew
Omeganitros (1) - Afrobean
36 hours is supposed to be up at 10:10ish tomorrow, however I won't be home til 10:30ish.
I'll try to get Soccr to lock the topic then, but if not, all conversation must stop at 10:12 am.
Omeganitros
December 10th, 2004, 11:52 PM
Alright. Alright, fine. I didn't want to bandwagon, and I didn't want to put myself in a position similar to Guido's, but I will end this shenanigans and switch my vote for the final time to Tps222.
I swear, I'll be a monkey's uncle if the humans are gonna lose this one. So there better be some good stuff on Day 3, or it's everyone's ass. :P
blahblah18
December 11th, 2004, 01:24 AM
Sorry Tass but you're definately acting way differently then any other game we've had so far... its just too risky, and I just hope I'm right :/
alainbryden
December 11th, 2004, 01:30 AM
I've just been looking at alot of overwhelming data. All of tass's posts last game, the way I've talked to him in our last conversations, and his conversation and posting habits for this game, and he has not been as careful as he has been in other games. He is really coming off as a wolf and this is just from my own Aim discussions with him. At first I thought there was strong evidence against him being a wolf but then I realised how meticulously he could have planned how he reacted to what I said. As I said, I can't prove he's a wolf outside of my own mind, because it's all things I put together from aim conversations and a generall feeling I'm getting from him, but I'm pretty sure that Tass is trying to get through this one as a wolf as well.
Tasselfoot
December 11th, 2004, 02:07 AM
i find it unbelievable that alain and blah come forth so quickly....
i have spoken at length with both of them, and they both admitted to working together for all of this game... and if you re-read their posts, they clearly show they are backing each other.
I'M going to take a big risk.... Alain told me he is the guardian earlier this game. after reading blahblah and alain's posts, i'm inclined to believe they are both lying, and both are wolves. as this round will be ending at 10am this morning, and cypher + the god damn moron Hans both already voted for me... i now have 4 votes against me, which appears to be enough to kill me.
currently, Squeek is voting for Alain.... and Kilga is voting for Blahblah. neither are online for me to talk to to switch their votes... in fact, NO ONE from the game in online to talk to about this game. so, wolves... i will congradulate you right now. you got me lynched.
i will be up at 9am this morning to see if i can perform a miracle to save myself, but as its a saturday morning... i doubt anyone will be online anyway.
for the time being, my vote stays on TPS... since i have 4 votes, TPS has 3. TPS hasn't voted which will give him 4 votes (including the phantom he gets for not voting)... so if ONE PERSON will switch and vote for TPS, i can be saved and we can kill blahblah and alain.
i mean, i'm furious that this was allowed to happen... but they pulled off the perfect coup de grace. no one is around to stop me dying, and the round ends before most people will be awake.
lastly, i'm mad at myself... i rebooted my computer, erasing all of my IM windows. so, i don't even have the IM convos i had with blahblah and alain to use as evidence.
i'm ranting now. flat out ranting... but i have no doubt in my mind that alain and blahblah are wolves.... this plan is too finely executed to be from anyone but wolves. just look at their logic for voting for me. its bogus. they are talking about how i acted on AIM, which was completely the same as i normally act.
seriously... SOMEONE change their votes... ideally, we can lynch alain or blahblah with the help of either squeek or kilga switching their votes, and hans as well... someone coming to my aid.
and, yes... i've never acted like this in a TWG before. perhaps THAT should tell you something about my humanity. and the fact is, i never trusted blah and alain, telling them both more than once i still thought they could both be wolves insteadl of human/guardian.
GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
edit: i just checked and realized that Alain was one of the 3 to vote for TPS, so his changing to me screws part of my plan. so, i change my vote to Alain and i hope that Kilga will change from blah to alain and someone else will vote for Alain as well. for the good of all humanity.
PS - if you think i'm a wolf... then why are my fellow wolves not coming to rescue me? why has no one stuck up with my posts or viewpoints the entire game. why have i been playing this game completely solo. because i'm human and the seer has not gotten in touch with me.... but, if the real guardian is out there and they see this... please help me kill Alain.
alainbryden
December 11th, 2004, 03:40 AM
Tass, this is the biggest stunt you've tried to pull off yet. The evidence against you is excruciating, and even then you almost had me believing that we had gotten you wrong. Well there's not a chance. I know from the way you've been talking to me that you are a wolf. of course your fellow wolves aren't rescuing you, they don't want to be dragged in with you. They've avoided supporting you all game to prevent showing an affiliation with you. I am 90% confident that tass is trying to con us again. He just didn't put the same poker-face effort into this game as he did in the others, his change in attitude showed, and although I have a speckle of a butterfly in my stomach that this may be wrong, I can't deny that it's almost certain that you're a wolf. I am the guardian, yes, and I'm going to be wolfed next. You held off killing me because you knew that blah also knew and that he would start pouring in the evidence as soon as you wolfed me, but now that we're getting rid of you you're giving one last shot at turning it back on us. It took us alot of guts to come out against you, because we knew it was goign to be suspicious, especially since all our evidence lay in your cointradicting aim conversations. It will take a leap of faith for them to believe the guardian and a human. And if we are both wrong, god help us, but the biggest mistake, after all you've said, would be letting you live if you're a wolf. If you get through this turning it around on us, then the humans are toast. I knon Tasselfoot didn't try to contact me or blah, and I'd be interested if he tried to contact anyone else he didn't think he could manipulate. I emplore you to go back and read all of his posts in the mindframe of him being a wolf. Don't fall for his desperate post. Tasselfoot is lying.
lightdarkness
December 11th, 2004, 07:24 AM
Tass (4) - HansSky, Cypher, blahblah, Alain
Alain (2) - Squeek, Tass
87x (2) - Phantom Vote, Kefit
Tps (1) - Omeganitros
blahblah (1) - Kilga
Squeek (1) - eyespew
Omeganitros (1) - Afrobean
HansSky (1) - 87x
Someone lock the topic at 10:10 if possible.
lightdarkness
December 11th, 2004, 07:31 AM
No votes may be changed after 10:10 if the topic is still open.
Tasselfoot
December 11th, 2004, 08:02 AM
you weren't online to contact. i did try and contact you.
and, on the off chance you are human alain... i will laugh when this game is over.
you, my friend, are the wolf. you have 0 evidence against me... making up fairy tales to go with morons voting for me to get lucky and kill me. congrats.
Tps222
December 11th, 2004, 08:25 AM
Ok. Sorry i have been gone for so long, but i have very busy with school, and events i had no control over. I am going to re-read all the posts, and edit this post with my vote. Ok, it seems pretty obvious that blah and alain are working together. They are both trying to take out tass, which really makes me think that they are wolves, trying to lynch the strongest player. I haven't really seen too much evidence to support tass's lynching, but, it seems that alain and blah are trying to bandwagon everyone. Though, alain has been giving a little more info into his case than blah has, blah hasn't said anything about why he thinks tass is a wolf. So for that i am voting Blah.
Kilgamayan
December 11th, 2004, 09:20 AM
****, I just woke up. :(
lightdarkness
December 11th, 2004, 09:28 AM
Tass (4) - HansSky, Cypher, blahblah, Alain
Alain (2) - Squeek, Tass
blahblah (2) - Kilga, Tps
87x (2) - Phantom Vote, Kefit
Tps (1) - Omeganitros
Squeek (1) - eyespew
Omeganitros (1) - Afrobean
HansSky (1) - 87x
Writing story.
lightdarkness
December 11th, 2004, 10:05 AM
"Alright" says eyespew, "Have we all come to a decision?"
Nods come from several people.
Tasselfoot starts to run away into the distance, as several people try and catch up with him.
"YOU'LL NEVER MAKE IT TASS, THERES NO CHANCE, GIVE YOURSELF UP!" Tps shouts, as he continues to run.
"NEVER, I'LL NEVER GIVE UPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP" as Tass was shouting back at the others, he failed to pay attention to the ground in front of him, and fell of the mountain, and was burried in the snow.
"Well.. that was easy! We should reach the bottom by tomorrow, we should get some sleep" suggests Kilga.
Night fell.
IT IS NOW NIGHT 3. Send me your stuff.
NOTE: When I said you will reach the bottom by tomorrow, that doesn't mean one of the parties will win, that is just where the story is headed, into the city.
lightdarkness
December 11th, 2004, 03:06 PM
Everyone was vast asleep when the sun started to rise. Everyones fears were high with the events of yesterday.
When everyone woke up, someone was missing, but they couldn't find them.
They started to spread out, when Eyespew let out a huge scream
"GAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH" eyespew shouts
Kilgamayan's body lay bloody in the snow near the edge of the mountain. His veins had be cut, and scatered across the snow. So grusome, people couldn't contain their stomachs.
"Ahhhh ****." says blahblah "not again, we best find out these guys before we are all dead!."
"Lets head for the bottom, we should make it in time, lets stay together for saftey." suggests Alain.
IT IS NOW DAY 3.
12 hours @ 4:06am (olol), 36 is 4:06am, however it will be 6:30, cause thats when I wake up.
Instlynch at 6 votes.
Remember, no talking once your dead.
Tasselfoot
December 11th, 2004, 03:08 PM
i am so dead.... i am le sad. gl all.
Kilgamayan
December 11th, 2004, 04:09 PM
wtf
assholes
:'(
87x
December 11th, 2004, 05:25 PM
Well, Im at work on one of there computers. Thank god for someone who knew the passowrd.. This is a once in life time thing so don't expect to see me on again at this time on a day that I have to work. Anyway, It seems that these are all random killings to just through us off. We need to start looking for connections of EB, Tass, Kilga, and whoever else has died that I forgot about. Look at whos not talking, and who is talking. Analyze the speachs that they have made, and come up with the best person to vote off. It looks like the wolfs are liking us pick the wrong persons and they are greatly enjoying us vote off someone who just looks like an idiot, that we have confused to be a wolf. I still have suspicion on Hans and Im starting to grow a suspricion for TPS, so please vote with intelligence and not out of anger, or any other motive that doesn't involve using your brain.
Snapps
December 11th, 2004, 06:03 PM
I want to revolt :O
evilbutterfly
December 11th, 2004, 07:29 PM
Remember, no talking once your dead.
Dude, Snapps. Shut up!
blahblah18
December 11th, 2004, 07:46 PM
EB you've spoken more then anyone else
alainbryden
December 11th, 2004, 08:41 PM
For those who beleive me, next on my list is Tps. I've said it many times already, but he hasn't been acting stupid like Omega. He is, nonetheless, saying some weird things and he has been unbelievably quiet. I'm still dumbfounded by why he hasn't spoken up yet. Can he just not think of anything to say? Has he no opinion. Also Hans. He voted Tass just because he wanted to vote for someone he didn't think would be lynched. Seems like a great opportunity to vote for your fellow wolf so that in the future you don't look affiliated with him. I know I will be dead before long, I really don't know what I'm going to to about it. Either you all think I'm a wolf, and I'll be lynched, or the wolves will kill me. They took advantange of last night's confusion over blah and I to take out one of our most valuable players- Kilga, knowing that I would guard blah. Now I'm left here with my old suspicion of Tps222. I changed to tassel of course, because he was more important to get rid of before the other wolves. Now my vote is back on Tps222. Let's pull ourselves out of our rut here.
Tps222
December 11th, 2004, 09:31 PM
Ok, i have already explained that i have been busy with events i had no control over, hence my state of absence. I would like to know, alain, what i have said that has been so suspisicous. You have been on my case since i became suspicous of Hans on day one. I, at least tried to explain myself, unlike everyone else who voted for themselves, revenge voted, took a phantom vote, or just guessed. I have explained all my reasoning for voting. Looking at you, all you have said about me was that i have been quiet, you haven't shown any decent evidence against me. You also switced your vote to tass without a very good reason other then he was acting different. Now, you keep saying your the guardian, and who your going to guard. This is making you look like a wolf, with the best players dieing early, to give any logic to the rest of the field, and trying to bandwagon the weak, i am starting to get extremely suspicous of you and blah, who obviously look like your working together.
alainbryden
December 11th, 2004, 10:01 PM
I'm sorry, I haven't been clear enough about my reasons.
The first post of TPS
Posted: Dec 08, 2004 - 02:36 PM
then I posted two arguments against tps, then
Last edited by Tps222 on Dec 09, 2004 - 08:46 AM; edited 1 time in total
Never mentioned why he edited, but true, it'll be hard to pinpoint what you said to put the blame on you when you've edited out all the mistakes that gave you away in your post
Second post by Tps.
Posted: Dec 09, 2004 - 06:36 AM
Two hours later, again without mentioning why
Last edited by Tps222 on Dec 09, 2004 - 08:48 AM; edited 1 time in total
You seem to be in the habit of changing the content of your posts alot to try to fit in with what people before AND after you say.
I didn't even bother talking about the content of these posts, because I've already pointed out all the flaws in them in my previous statements about tass...
Third post was just about how he liked my chart, no harm there.
4th post, "87x is being too quiet" and too a phantom vote, so he gets voted
5th post, says he's less suspicious, but tells us to "keep an eye open" for 87x for taking a phantom vote, and Kefit, for "being quiet lately". Strong enough arguments.
6th post, he's sorry for being absent for events he had no control over. Blah is working with me and we're trying to lynch the strongest player. Tass said we're wolves, but blah has said less than me about his reasons, so he votes blah. Again, can't argue with that logic.
7th post, getting more reasonable. He's sorry for being busy with events he had no control over. He want's to know what he's said that's so suspicious. He's explained himself very well, unlike otehr people (no names). I haven't shown any decent evidence agains him (see 6 of my 27 posts). This makes me look like a wolf. He's starting to get extremely suspicious of me and blah, who obviously look like we're working together.
I could put more redundant comments here, but aside from the evidence up there ^ my other posts are enough reasoning by my standards for my beleif.
Tps222
December 11th, 2004, 10:26 PM
ok, look i edited my first post because you critcized me right after it. This is what i added. "Yes, but look, he said that the wolves might be in fear. To me that sound like, "i am not a wolf, nope not me". That's all i said, to try and counter-argue what you said. So i edited it. My 2nd post was edited 2 hours after i first typed it, During that span of time, no one said anything to me, so what would i be trying to change. 3rd, i saw no good reasons why you would vote tass off, and it looked to me as if you were working with blah, so i had a choice between you two, and you gave a slightly stronger arguement then blah did, hence voting him. Stiil, the only evidence i see against me is editing posts, which really all i did was add-on. I have said or done nothing that would show any evidence of me of being a wolf, while it seems you are tyring very hard to get people to bandwagon. Also, whats with the whole, "im the guardian, im protecting blah tonight," you are acting very strange.
alainbryden
December 11th, 2004, 10:29 PM
Here's something else to study. The days are going by fast. Come on guys, if we don't figure the wolves out before long, then we are just sitting out the days waiting for them to finish us off. Vote! and vote wisely!
alainbryden
December 11th, 2004, 10:37 PM
Tps, I've already answered everything you brought up in that post, I just said that all my arguments were in my other posts against you, and that there was no point in reiterating them YET again. I also said in my post that the wolves knew last night that I was going to guard blah because of the confusion. If you're going to quote me, quote me right. You're not kicking blame off yourself by being lazy and saying I'm, not making points instead of going back, reading the points I've made, and trying to argue against them. If you saw no good reasons for me to vote tass off then you didn't read my post, as I'm sure you didn't read any of the other posts I made. I hope you're not trying to act so ignorant so that I think you're just a human who doesn't care enough about the game to put any effort into it, because you're making me second guess myself with how little attention you seem to be paying attention to the game.
Tps222
December 11th, 2004, 10:52 PM
I've just been looking at alot of overwhelming data. All of tass's posts last game, the way I've talked to him in our last conversations, and his conversation and posting habits for this game, and he has not been as careful as he has been in other games. He is really coming off as a wolf and this is just from my own Aim discussions with him. At first I thought there was strong evidence against him being a wolf but then I realised how meticulously he could have planned how he reacted to what I said. As I said, I can't prove he's a wolf outside of my own mind, because it's all things I put together from aim conversations and a generall feeling I'm getting from him, but I'm pretty sure that Tass is trying to get through this one as a wolf as well.
Ok,(taking the time to quote you),wow, your accusitions are based on aim conversations, which you haven't provided for us, so i don't count that as good evidence, just word of mouth. Then you said that he was acting different his posts were different, so i will give you that, but then you said that you can't prove it, because only you have the info from the conversations, that helps, we are just supposed to belive you.
87x
December 11th, 2004, 11:25 PM
This sounds as the bickering of a student vs a teacher... Where the student keeps trying to prove his point, but is completely outmatched by the wit of the teacher. In this case it is easy to tell which is which, and really it isn't solving anything. Both of you could have just as much blame as the other one. Tps just for the evidence Alain provided, then Alain for the evidence he provided against Tps. If you aren't understanding Im saying Alain could get attention from what he's doing because it looks as if he is trying to forcefully put Tps on the chopping block. I understand that you are arguing and it would seem that whoever gets the last word would be the one to "win" the argument, but sometimes shutting up is the way to go.
HansSky
December 12th, 2004, 12:02 AM
Does anybody else find it a little odd how Cypher is staying completely out of the spotlight? Almost everybody has been accused of being a wolf except for two people:
Cypher, and eyespew. Now, if Cypher is a wolf, then I think voting for Tass would have been the stupidest and biggest mistake I have made thus far. Eyespew I'm not as concerned about, but he is still ranked high on my list.
At first, I thought that alain was clean. I was sure he was human. Then I began to study alain's and Tps' posts. This made me think that he was human again, along with Tps.
Here is what I see happening, and I think it already happened with Tass. Humans accusing other humans of being wolves. Humans lynching other humans because they think they are wolves. This kind of **** let's the wolves sit back and just watch us take shots at each other, making this game oh so much easier for them. Then they go ahead and murder Kilga, who I at one time thought was a wolf. Between Kilga, Q, and Tass, I am certain we have lost at least one special role. I think we're wasting too much time accusing each other, and need to start paying more attention to those who are playing the game from the sidelines.
alainbryden
December 12th, 2004, 12:51 AM
I am not forcing my opinion on anyone. I am supporting my own opinion at request. If you want to vote for someone else, state your reasons. Maybe they're better than mine. I go with what I think is my best option at the time. If you want to vote for me, giv'r. It'll save the wolves wiping me out.
87x
December 12th, 2004, 08:33 AM
I said it seems that way, You might not be trying to do that, but haveing an arguement with someone isn't a way to support your opinion by request. You can support your opinion in one post, it doesn't take the 3 posts that you did make to do that. that doesn't seem like a lot after going back and rereading it, but it sure did seem like a lot while it was going on. Don't worry though, your not high on my **** list, so you are safe for right now.
I like the fact that Hans is actually talking now instead of just saying, "I vote like this also". Or doing something someone just did right before you. This in itself, without any stupid comments about how people say you don't talk, is good and lowers your ranking on my **** list. Eyespew, which I completely forgot about, has just been put in the front of my mind. He is extremly inactive, and isn't really talking to me much on aim. Which is weird, because he usually always IM's me and for him to be silent is an unusual thing. Sorry buddy, you take one of the top spots on the **** list.
Im really curious as to why nobody but Blah as tried to contact me, makes me wonder what people are really thinking about. My aim name is at the bottom of all my posts, and yet nobody has contacted me to ask me about my opinions on anything. Either a lot of people are being shy, all my friends are wolves, or im setting off a bad vibe. Either way I would like to know why.
Afrobean
December 12th, 2004, 09:00 AM
People also aren't really contacting me on AIM. The only thing I got was Tass asking me to help him not die.
I still am suspicious of Omeganitros for what he said a while back.
All I've got so far are gut feelings. Well, that may not be entirely true, but as of right now I'm running mostly on emotion. I gotta pick up on this game fast.
Though I don't have a very convincing reason for why as of now, my vote goes to Kilga, at least until I study this more.
After spending all night looking over what everyone said, the only conclusion I have come to is that my previous post looks alot like something a seer would say.
wtf? Did omegantros just suggest that he's the seer?
Maaaybe.
I'm trying to think like the enemy. They'll be looking for the seer.
Very suspicious if you ask me. Also, he's not been saying much as of late.
Squeek
December 12th, 2004, 11:46 AM
First of all - Why isn't anybody posting? I checked it after the update to see FOUR people out of the game post and nothing else for a long time.
Second - LD, seriously, 6:30am? What is wrong with you? I understand you probably get up at about 6:00 to go to school, but most of us do not. Most also do not have the time to get on the computer before they head off to school. College students do, of course, but all of our classes generally occur after noon. Also, consider the West Coast... 6:30am is 3:30am on a school night. Anybody over there is screwed if they get voted on because they have no chance to defend themselves.
Onto meaningful stuff.
Alain, I totally agree with your timeline, but it seems to suggest something else to me. Omega did the same himself. For me at least, it looks like they didn't know how to play the game right before they began and just made really bad comments that essentially screwed them over. I'll wait out to see what else they post to defend themselves.
Omega is still on my list of the top suspicious because he keeps implying that he has a special role of sorts. Of course, he could be extremely beneficial to us as the seer, guardian, or vigilante, but he could also be a hindrance to us as one of the wolves. I won't vote for him yet, but I'd like to warn him that I'm wary of him. If I don't have anything else to go on before my bedtime, it'll be you, Omega.
~Squeek
PS - I hope this is not a repeat of TWG III...Phantom Votes everywhere, lack of interest, etc.
Tasselfoot
December 12th, 2004, 12:30 PM
me too squeek. the fact that it ended early on a saturday morning is what got me killed.
alas. i digress.
lightdarkness
December 12th, 2004, 12:42 PM
Second - LD, seriously, 6:30am? What is wrong with you? I understand you probably get up at about 6:00 to go to school, but most of us do not. Most also do not have the time to get on the computer before they head off to school. College students do, of course, but all of our classes generally occur after noon. Also, consider the West Coast... 6:30am is 3:30am on a school night. Anybody over there is screwed if they get voted on because they have no chance to defend themselves.
I'm sorry, but thats how the times fell.
Would an extention to noon be suitable?
Squeek
December 12th, 2004, 01:02 PM
Tass - I know I didn't even notice anything happening. I was asleep before midnight and got up way after noon.
LD - It's not for me to decide, but that sounds reasonable enough. Everybody playing will have to access before leaving for school or during school if they are not in college courses. Either that, or just post before they go to bed and hope for the best.
~Squeek
lightdarkness
December 12th, 2004, 01:31 PM
Ok, the 36 hour deadline will be extened until noon tomorrow, unless someone has a super uber huge problem with it, and if that is the case, contact me.
CypherToorima
December 12th, 2004, 01:45 PM
Afrobean, I honestly don't see what's so supicious about what omeganitros has said. It seems to me that everybody is using the same lame proof to try and get omega lynched. The only thing I see about omega is that even though he has sort of claimed to be the seer, he hasn't been wolfed.
Alas, I fear I was wrong about tass. Had I known he was talking about AIM alliances and the such, I probably wouldn't have voted for him
Afrobean
December 12th, 2004, 02:03 PM
The only thing I see about omega is that even though he has sort of claimed to be the seer, he hasn't been wolfed.
Yea, if he was the seer, then the wolves would have wolf'd him. The fact that he has yet to be wolf'd proves to me that the wolves don't want to kill him. And why would the wolves not want to kill Omega? Because Omega is lying about being seer and is also a wolf.
eyespewgreekfire
December 12th, 2004, 03:24 PM
I vote omega afro and squeek have said all there is to say. I can think of nothing more.
Kefit
December 12th, 2004, 03:54 PM
I have no clue what is going on in this game. Some lengthy aim convos I had yesterday with several people did nothing but make me even more lost. I have no idea who might be a wolf, if Alain actually is the guardian, if Tas