TWG XXXII - Game over (Wolves win)

[ddrdanc3r55]

Re: TWG XXXII - Day 3 (Sans Kilga)

This doesn't surprise me. Another vet down. Kilga was doing nothing out of the ordinary. So, since these kills aren't linked to a person (afaik), my vote stands.

matt

Also, I'll be looking at the last TWG for info on mini.

[ddrdanc3r55]

Re: TWG XXXII - Day 3 (Sans Kilga)

Okay, I skimmed over the last TWG and mini was throwing out random thoughts/posts in that one, and he was human. Nothing out of the ordinary.

[nforcer06164]

Re: TWG XXXII - Day 3 (Sans Kilga)

Aw shoot. I have some ideas regarding Kilga's death, and I want to reread the thread to be sure I'm right, but my computer is being REALLY dumb right now as I archive before I perform a daring reformat. This is my last post before I send my computer to oblivion and attempt to bring it back. I hope to see you guys by late tomorrow.

[Omeganitros]

Re: TWG XXXII - Day 3 (Sans Kilga)

Omega's playing?

When did this happen?

I can't even be useful, as I haven't caught up on reading everything yet. But I definitely suspect a lower-tier player is a wolf.

[Afrobean]

Re: TWG XXXII - Day 3 (Sans Kilga)

So, when are we gonna lynch Omega, guys?

[Omeganitros]

Re: TWG XXXII - Day 3 (Sans Kilga)

The sad part is that I know you're not kidding. ;-;

If I end getting lynched today, sorry I had to waste a day for the humans. I should have paid 500% more attention, and I guess I'll get banned from a couple of games or so.

[blahblah18]

Re: TWG XXXII - Day 3 (Sans Kilga)

wolves totally = jurs afro aggy

man this game is easy

[Afrobean]

Re: TWG XXXII - Day 3 (Sans Kilga)

wolves totally = jurs afro aggy

man this game is easy

evidently not too easy since you named at least 1 human as a wolf

[Afrobean]

Re: TWG XXXII - Day 3 (Sans Kilga)

By the way, is there any benefit to not lynching Omega right away?

I mean, we're going to have to lynch him anyway, right? Why not do it early just in case?

[stretchypanda]

Re: TWG XXXII - Day 3 (Sans Kilga)

Okay, I skimmed over the last TWG and mini was throwing out random thoughts/posts in that one, and he was human. Nothing out of the ordinary.

Yeah, I found the same thing, just never said anything about it, I guess. Sure is annoying, Mini.

[blahblah18]

Re: TWG XXXII - Day 3 (Sans Kilga)

well we went over the math of it last time.. he can't be left around as a free kill for teh wolves in endgame.. it means he has to die at some point, and as the kill is harder to find when there is a larger player pool, that is why he should be killed now.. this is what was decided alst time, right?

[nforcer06164]

Re: TWG XXXII - Day 3 (Sans Kilga)

Looks like my archiving and backups are taking longer than expected. I've had time to skim over the thread again, so I'll make my whopper of a post now, as long as I have time.

While I do agree that Omega is a crutch to us at this point with two phantoms, I think our attention is being a bit diverted, isn't it? I mean, Afro did just jump on Omega really quick, didn't he? He's been "suggestively pushing" (for lack of a better way to put it, I hope you understand). When are we gonna lynch Omega? Is there a benefit to not lynching Omega right away? In my opinion, there's more of a benefit to you than anybody else in lynching Omega. It's to divert attention away from yourself, Afro.

Let's look back a moment. Day 1: Afrobean does his best to shoot down information. I think we can remember pretty well that he voted me, and I still remain somewhere near the top of his suspicion list for presenting an idea that had a flaw in it. I don't know where I am on that list now; apparently, I'm the last wolf, of the trio of myself, iggy, and DBP. This trio, he named near the end of Day 1 as well. I intend to get to that later.

Anyway, all day, Afro was constantly shooting down ideas because we'd be giving information to the wolves. Well, anything in a game with a master wolf may end up concerning a share of info with wolves. Remember Fish in game 30?

There's not much to mention about Day 2 except that Afro did jump right on and chime in on Kefit's finding of the flaw in Talisman's plan. He did mention something of that sort on Day 1, but I have to wonder why Afro didn't become suspicious of Talisman for his idea. Obviously Talis wasn't a wolf (unless the wolves decided to kill one of their own for some reason, highly unlikely), but I still have to wonder why his flaw didn't make him a wolf, too.

Looking back at his votes... he voted for iggy two days in a row. Day 1, he did it to save himself from a lynch. Day 2, he slipped in on a bandwagon. Now, that goes right down the line with his two ideas on who the wolves were. Check out this, it kind of made me uneasy after the Day 2 lynch occurred:

Day 1 Quote:

Ok guys, we got two people exhibiting tass-as-a-wolf-esque behavior. Where's our third wolf?

A response to iggy's questioning:

Really, iggy, I was half joking before about there being only one wolf left to identify. You're making it difficult for such accusations to remain partly in jest.

Day 2 quote:

PS 1 wolf down, only iggy and nforcer left to go lol

Odd how his half joking resulted in his two top suspicions being lynched. Now, I do agree with iggy being lynched, and not so much with DBP... but somehow, wolf number three (me) is missing from his mention today. How odd.

One final thing:

From Day 2:

At this point I'd like to see both iggy and Afro go because I'm 99% certain one of them is a wolf.

Afro's in no danger of being voted off right now, though, so I guess I have to go with iggy.

I also expressed some suspicion on Afro. Not as strongly, but it was still there. Kilga did express wishes to see both iggy and afro go... so what's the best thing to do during the night as a wolf? Kill someone who will likely attack you the next day. Afro could've done just that. Forgot about me, though, I guess. Glad I didn't get fierce on Afro Day 2.

I think today, Afro set himself up perfectly. Now, I don't know what you guys plan on doing with Omega. Personally, I think it's not a good idea to have a human crutch later on, but lynching Omega would be throwing away two humans, essentially. If you really think Omega is a wolf, go right ahead. I don't think he is (especially with two phantoms), but that's why I'm not the only one here. No matter what happens, though, don't forget about Afrobean.

[Afrobean]

Re: TWG XXXII - Day 3 (Sans Kilga)

Looks like my archiving and backups are taking longer than expected. I've had time to skim over the thread again, so I'll make my whopper of a post now, as long as I have time.

While I do agree that Omega is a crutch to us at this point with two phantoms, I think our attention is being a bit diverted, isn't it? I mean, Afro did just jump on Omega really quick, didn't he? He's been "suggestively pushing" (for lack of a better way to put it, I hope you understand). When are we gonna lynch Omega? Is there a benefit to not lynching Omega right away? In my opinion, there's more of a benefit to you than anybody else in lynching Omega. It's to divert attention away from yourself, Afro.

If I was a wolf wouldn't it be better for me to say nothing and wait to insta omega myself during the last day? Only reason a wolf would suggest killing what would be their winning lynch is to look human, and if I was a wolf, I wouldn't bother-- there are only a few who think I'm a wolf. It's really not worth the trouble as a wolf, especially if a wolf was in the situation I am.

Let's look back a moment. Day 1: Afrobean does his best to shoot down information. I think we can remember pretty well that he voted me, and I still remain somewhere near the top of his suspicion list for presenting an idea that had a flaw in it. I don't know where I am on that list now; apparently, I'm the last wolf, of the trio of myself, iggy, and DBP. This trio, he named near the end of Day 1 as well. I intend to get to that later.

Anyway, all day, Afro was constantly shooting down ideas because we'd be giving information to the wolves. Well, anything in a game with a master wolf may end up concerning a share of info with wolves. Remember Fish in game 30?

How does a seer'd master wolf not being able to get ANY information from the seer compare to essentially giving protection from lynch to all of the wolves?

There's not much to mention about Day 2 except that Afro did jump right on and chime in on Kefit's finding of the flaw in Talisman's plan. He did mention something of that sort on Day 1, but I have to wonder why Afro didn't become suspicious of Talisman for his idea. Obviously Talis wasn't a wolf (unless the wolves decided to kill one of their own for some reason, highly unlikely), but I still have to wonder why his flaw didn't make him a wolf, too.

Talisman's flaw was not a deal breaker. All it did was change the plan slightly. I still support the coming out of anyone with the statue. It's just a bad idea to lynch someone because they had been saved from lynch the previous day.

Also, the flaw in Talisman's plan was easily missed, and apparently, difficult to understand. nforcer, your flaw should have been blaringly obvious.

Looking back at his votes... he voted for iggy two days in a row. Day 1, he did it to save himself from a lynch. Day 2, he slipped in on a bandwagon. Now, that goes right down the line with his two ideas on who the wolves were. Check out this, it kind of made me uneasy after the Day 2 lynch occurred:

Day 1 Quote:

Ok guys, we got two people exhibiting tass-as-a-wolf-esque behavior. Where's our third wolf?

A response to iggy's questioning:

Really, iggy, I was half joking before about there being only one wolf left to identify. You're making it difficult for such accusations to remain partly in jest.

Day 2 quote:

PS 1 wolf down, only iggy and nforcer left to go lol

Odd how his half joking resulted in his two top suspicions being lynched. Now, I do agree with iggy being lynched, and not so much with DBP... but somehow, wolf number three (me) is missing from his mention today. How odd.

...

PS 1 wolf down, only iggy and nforcer left to go lol

Notice how it says "lol" at the end. Are you seriously trying to use a statement with the phrase "lol" in it to say I'm a wolf?

Also notice: I am not the one who chose the lynchings; the group did. If you want to be mad about anyone having been lynched, talk to everyone else who voted for them. My single vote alone did not lynch them (and in the case of disco, I didn't even vote him). So yeah, this statement:

Odd how his half joking resulted in his two top suspicions being lynched.

Is completely null.

One final thing:

From Day 2:

At this point I'd like to see both iggy and Afro go because I'm 99% certain one of them is a wolf.

Afro's in no danger of being voted off right now, though, so I guess I have to go with iggy.

I also expressed some suspicion on Afro. Not as strongly, but it was still there. Kilga did express wishes to see both iggy and afro go... so what's the best thing to do during the night as a wolf? Kill someone who will likely attack you the next day. Afro could've done just that. Forgot about me, though, I guess. Glad I didn't get fierce on Afro Day 2.

And now you have "[gotten] fierce" on me. Really, if you were a wolf, you would see that I'm probably not going to be lynched, and you'd just wolf me (if you want me dead so badly). In short, I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt because you ACTUALLY are still on me. A wolf would have given up trying to get me lynched by now.

Unless you're a really bad wolf.

ps since blah says it's cool, I'm gonna go ahead and vote omega. I suggest we all do the same by the end of day.

[mattc16]

Re: TWG XXXII - Day 3 (Sans Kilga)

nforcer, you bring up some good points there, and i'm half inclined to agree with most of them. However, i'm not 100% suspicious of afro, as afro made good points in his reply.

Moving on to the point about lynching omega, i'm inclined to go along with it, as it prevents us leaving the wolves a free final day kill, as they will obviously let him live as long as possible, so as blah says, why not lynch him today and get it over with.

Also, DDR, kill analysis? Playing the part of a textbook jTWG wolf, just thought I'd throw that out in the open.

Anyway, for now omega. Vote subject to change if i come up with anything else.

[blahblah18]

Re: TWG XXXII - Day 3 (Sans Kilga)

omega