Turbo XIII: Rerolls are for Nerds

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  • FreezinIce
    FFR Player
    • May 2005
    • 265

    #571
    Re: Turbo XIII: Rerolls are for Nerds

    I think a cost benefit analysis would not be remiss here.

    I lack the time to do it right now but I will follow up after my shift.

    > Who stands to lose the most if AA doesn't die?

    > Who stands to gain the most from his death?

    The questions seem similar but they are in fact different
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    Originally posted by Charu
    Wow, all most of my town reads vanished. Thanks Freez for stirring the pot, motherfucker!!!


    Originally posted by mellon_collie
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    Originally posted by roundbox
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    Originally posted by Afrobean
    Lynch all liars is good meta. Period.
    Originally posted by Red
    My guess at this point is that there aren't actually any wolves, and all the humans are just going to kill each other until only a few are left. Then the remaining survivors will realize they are the real monsters.
    Originally posted by TWG Ike
    SCUM THEATER AA SCUM CHARU WOLF ALIEN ROUNDBOX IS TOWN AND FRAMED

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    • FreezinIce
      FFR Player
      • May 2005
      • 265

      #572
      Re: Turbo XIII: Rerolls are for Nerds

      I am firmly of the opinion haku should not shoot and lose the game for us if he misses
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      Originally posted by Charu
      Wow, all most of my town reads vanished. Thanks Freez for stirring the pot, motherfucker!!!


      Originally posted by mellon_collie
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      Originally posted by roundbox
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      Originally posted by Afrobean
      Lynch all liars is good meta. Period.
      Originally posted by Red
      My guess at this point is that there aren't actually any wolves, and all the humans are just going to kill each other until only a few are left. Then the remaining survivors will realize they are the real monsters.
      Originally posted by TWG Ike
      SCUM THEATER AA SCUM CHARU WOLF ALIEN ROUNDBOX IS TOWN AND FRAMED

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      • Hakulyte
        aka Haku
        • Jul 2005
        • 4697

        #573
        Re: Turbo XIII: Rerolls are for Nerds

        It's just semantics, but there's 3 killing powers each phases.

        7 players are alive and 3 VTs are rip.

        If a mislynch happens and I shoot the wrong target + NK, we go from 7 to 4 and the game is over with parity 2:2.

        I hard claimed because I don't know what I'm doing and I need help to get a clue about how to take the best decision.

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        • mellonxcollie
          Sectional Moderator
          Sectional Moderator
          • Dec 2006
          • 1304

          #574
          Re: Turbo XIII: Rerolls are for Nerds

          Originally posted by FreezinIce
          I am firmly of the opinion haku should not shoot and lose the game for us if he misses
          if we get a wolf this phase this won't happen though, right?
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          • FreezinIce
            FFR Player
            • May 2005
            • 265

            #575
            Re: Turbo XIII: Rerolls are for Nerds

            But of course it's up to him. Do you male a hard read and shoot, or do you let town decide it's own fate?

            The decision will be radically different depending on if we lynch a wolf today
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            Originally posted by Charu
            Wow, all most of my town reads vanished. Thanks Freez for stirring the pot, motherfucker!!!


            Originally posted by mellon_collie
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            Originally posted by roundbox
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            Originally posted by Afrobean
            Lynch all liars is good meta. Period.
            Originally posted by Red
            My guess at this point is that there aren't actually any wolves, and all the humans are just going to kill each other until only a few are left. Then the remaining survivors will realize they are the real monsters.
            Originally posted by TWG Ike
            SCUM THEATER AA SCUM CHARU WOLF ALIEN ROUNDBOX IS TOWN AND FRAMED

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            • FreezinIce
              FFR Player
              • May 2005
              • 265

              #576
              Re: Turbo XIII: Rerolls are for Nerds

              Oh you ninja d me.
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              Originally posted by Charu
              Wow, all most of my town reads vanished. Thanks Freez for stirring the pot, motherfucker!!!


              Originally posted by mellon_collie
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              Originally posted by roundbox
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              Originally posted by Afrobean
              Lynch all liars is good meta. Period.
              Originally posted by Red
              My guess at this point is that there aren't actually any wolves, and all the humans are just going to kill each other until only a few are left. Then the remaining survivors will realize they are the real monsters.
              Originally posted by TWG Ike
              SCUM THEATER AA SCUM CHARU WOLF ALIEN ROUNDBOX IS TOWN AND FRAMED

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              • Celirra
                FFR Player
                • Apr 2015
                • 749

                #577
                Re: Turbo XIII: Rerolls are for Nerds

                @Haku, since you're a logical guy, and if you really are the vigi, then do this:

                If lynch flips wolf: shoot whoever else you think is most likely to be wolf, or who might make wolf tells difficult (I'll fill in who I think fits either of these categories later).

                If lynch flips town: Don't shoot, if you miss it's gg; give us another day to figure out and reason through who might be wolf.


                For the future, don't shoot for the reasons you did on n1 again, because it made this all harder.
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                • Hakulyte
                  aka Haku
                  • Jul 2005
                  • 4697

                  #578
                  Re: Turbo XIII: Rerolls are for Nerds

                  That's pretty much what I was planning to do.

                  The only issue is figuring out that top scum for today.

                  I'm having a hard time town reading players this game.

                  Ignoring me, is there anyone you guys consider top towns etc. ?

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                  • FreezinIce
                    FFR Player
                    • May 2005
                    • 265

                    #579
                    Re: Turbo XIII: Rerolls are for Nerds

                    Originally posted by Celirra
                    @Haku, since you're a logical guy, and if you really are the vigi, then do this:

                    If lynch flips wolf: shoot whoever else you think is most likely to be wolf, or who might make wolf tells difficult (I'll fill in who I think fits either of these categories later).

                    If lynch flips town: Don't shoot, if you miss it's gg; give us another day to figure out and reason through who might be wolf.


                    For the future, don't shoot for the reasons you did on n1 again, because it made this all harder.
                    Hakus shot was objectively good. The consensus for proper vigi play is to kill the 2nd place wagon to clean up towns scumreads. He was never going to be consensus town or contribute to the game in a meaningful way in my opinion. How do I know this? Nobody is going back to check his reads.even if he was town his opinion was not held in high regard

                    I think your just mad after the fact and looking for a scapegoat. Realize that it was the best play haku could have made and move on please
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                    Originally posted by Charu
                    Wow, all most of my town reads vanished. Thanks Freez for stirring the pot, motherfucker!!!


                    Originally posted by mellon_collie
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                    Originally posted by roundbox
                    AHHHHHHHHH SKEET SKEET SKEET SKEET


                    Originally posted by Afrobean
                    Lynch all liars is good meta. Period.
                    Originally posted by Red
                    My guess at this point is that there aren't actually any wolves, and all the humans are just going to kill each other until only a few are left. Then the remaining survivors will realize they are the real monsters.
                    Originally posted by TWG Ike
                    SCUM THEATER AA SCUM CHARU WOLF ALIEN ROUNDBOX IS TOWN AND FRAMED

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                    • Celirra
                      FFR Player
                      • Apr 2015
                      • 749

                      #580
                      Re: Turbo XIII: Rerolls are for Nerds

                      I still don't think you're a top town, you've done nothing to convince me.

                      I don't feel comfortable about anyone as town right now; I'm most apprehensive about roundbox and MML though, and Charu is always a ! (hey Charu, post a cute alarmed looking bird pic, thanks) in my mind. The most I'd say is that if lynch flips a wolf, Charu is a good vigi shot target.
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                      • Celirra
                        FFR Player
                        • Apr 2015
                        • 749

                        #581
                        Re: Turbo XIII: Rerolls are for Nerds

                        Originally posted by FreezinIce
                        Hakus shot was objectively good. The consensus for proper vigi play is to kill the 2nd place wagon to clean up towns scumreads. He was never going to be consensus town or contribute to the game in a meaningful way in my opinion. How do I know this? Nobody is going back to check his reads.even if he was town his opinion was not held in high regard

                        I think your just mad after the fact and looking for a scapegoat. Realize that it was the best play haku could have made and move on please
                        I don't think that's proper vigi play, consensus or not, and this is as someone who had FlashFlash as a top contender for wolf. To each their own, I just inherently think shots based off d0 are silly.
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                        • FreezinIce
                          FFR Player
                          • May 2005
                          • 265

                          #582
                          Re: Turbo XIII: Rerolls are for Nerds

                          Originally posted by Celirra
                          I don't think that's proper vigi play, consensus or not, and this is as someone who had FlashFlash as a top contender for wolf. To each their own, I just inherently think shots based off d0 are silly.
                          You being contrary. Since I can't go back at and find it, what's your criteria for vigi play and who would you have shot.

                          Because your the one who sounds silly atm for

                          1) not having someone mechanically clear as your top town
                          2) saying vigi should not have shot the counterwagon who was also your top scum
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                          To let the world be.

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                          Originally posted by Charu
                          Wow, all most of my town reads vanished. Thanks Freez for stirring the pot, motherfucker!!!


                          Originally posted by mellon_collie
                          AHHHHHHHHH SKEET SKEET SKEET SKEET
                          Originally posted by roundbox
                          AHHHHHHHHH SKEET SKEET SKEET SKEET


                          Originally posted by Afrobean
                          Lynch all liars is good meta. Period.
                          Originally posted by Red
                          My guess at this point is that there aren't actually any wolves, and all the humans are just going to kill each other until only a few are left. Then the remaining survivors will realize they are the real monsters.
                          Originally posted by TWG Ike
                          SCUM THEATER AA SCUM CHARU WOLF ALIEN ROUNDBOX IS TOWN AND FRAMED

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                          • Celirra
                            FFR Player
                            • Apr 2015
                            • 749

                            #583
                            Re: Turbo XIII: Rerolls are for Nerds

                            Originally posted by FreezinIce
                            You being contrary. Since I can't go back at and find it, what's your criteria for vigi play and who would you have shot.

                            Because your the one who sounds silly atm for

                            1) not having someone mechanically clear as your top town
                            2) saying vigi should not have shot the counterwagon who was also your top scum
                            If it was anything but d0 I would think it was a fine play.

                            1) ???????
                            2) I think it'd be fine if it was anything but d0
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                            • FreezinIce
                              FFR Player
                              • May 2005
                              • 265

                              #584
                              Re: Turbo XIII: Rerolls are for Nerds

                              celirra

                              Stop mindlessly dissenting and answer my question
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                              Originally posted by Charu
                              Wow, all most of my town reads vanished. Thanks Freez for stirring the pot, motherfucker!!!


                              Originally posted by mellon_collie
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                              Originally posted by roundbox
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                              Originally posted by Afrobean
                              Lynch all liars is good meta. Period.
                              Originally posted by Red
                              My guess at this point is that there aren't actually any wolves, and all the humans are just going to kill each other until only a few are left. Then the remaining survivors will realize they are the real monsters.
                              Originally posted by TWG Ike
                              SCUM THEATER AA SCUM CHARU WOLF ALIEN ROUNDBOX IS TOWN AND FRAMED

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                              • Celirra
                                FFR Player
                                • Apr 2015
                                • 749

                                #585
                                Re: Turbo XIII: Rerolls are for Nerds

                                I'm not sure how I'm mindlessly dissenting in your mind. I clearly claimed that the play would have been fine if it weren't d0, but given that it was d0 I don't think it was right to shoot anyone.
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