TWG Turbo 41: Trust Fall! [GAME THREAD]

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  • Hakulyte
    aka Haku
    • Jul 2005
    • 4697

    #1036
    Originally posted by mellon_collie
    oops I was watching a movie with people and I forgot about the game I am also here though
    Are you interested to trust fall someone or you're waiting for something else ?

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    • mellon_collie
      FFR Player
      • May 2017
      • 156

      #1037
      Originally posted by Hakulyte
      Are you interested to trust fall someone or you're waiting for something else ?
      I was kinda interested in trust falling roundbox but idk how he feels about that

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      • Charmoeleon
        Chargrilled, hot & spicy!
        • Aug 2013
        • 267

        #1038
        I don't know what to say. I'm just gonna type some shit to get my feelings out there I guess, I dunno.

        I got absorbed in the last game that was played because ben was playing in it. I'd known about FFR TWG games for a long time but never joined one on the forums, only a live TWG game on Discord with video call where I got voted out Day 0 because I stayed quiet the whole phase and then just agreed with something someone said near the end because I felt it was weird not to contribute somehow. So I was really excited and looking forward to this Turbo filling up. And then it stalled out for a while with signups, and I wasn't sure when it would happen, or if it would happen. We finally got up to 9 players before ben and I left for FWA, and we got to hang out with dance and sun. I asked sun about joining, and he did, and I was even more excited. I really built this game up in my head before it even started because I was looking forward to it so much.

        I got my role PM, and it was town, which I was thankful for because I didn't think I could handle the pressure of being wolf in my first game. Even if this wasn't a standard game, I felt like I could contribute and weed out the wolves, and kinda prove to myself that I was capable of playing with you guys. I don't know why I felt the need to prove myself, I just did. I feel like I struggle sometimes with feeling like I'm good enough, and, well, this isn't the place for that conversation. Anyway.

        The game was still early on, and I knew that read lists were a common thing that people did in these games. I hadn't done one before, and so I wanted to try one. And I'm still glad I did, because while I was putting it together, I really felt like I was playing the game. It was fun, like trying to solve some kind of puzzle. And then I shared it. I wanted to get conversation going, because I felt like the game was in a weird state where the early chatter was going on for a while, and the "game" part of the game wasn't happening, so I figured I'd start the ball rolling myself. And it worked. I thought things were going well.

        Then Freezin gave Lewdy an offer overnight. I woke up, saw that, and my stomach dropped. I didn't trust either of them at that point, and I was pretty sure Haku was town after denying sun's offer. Haku had also put it out there that it was important for a town/town trust fall to happen first to not put town off to a bad start. So I blindly offered him a trust fall as soon as I could without thinking it through. I never considered how I would look if either Freezin or Lewdy flipped wolf. I just knew that I trusted Haku more than I trusted that pairing, and felt like I had to do something before it got accepted. And now town's gonna lose because I fucked up and people think I'm some mastermind TWG player even though this is genuinely the first proper game I've ever played. I've played Town of Salem. I've played One Night Ultimate Werewolf. I've played Werewords. That's it. I don't know why I'm being given so much credit. Is it just my play in comparison to the other new players? I don't know man, I fucking suck at this.

        I don't know how I'm supposed to get anyone to trust me at this point. I don't think there is a way. I don't see a point in it either since town can just leave me in the game and still have a chance to win. I don't want to fuck this up for you guys. So just leave me alone.
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        • Hakulyte
          aka Haku
          • Jul 2005
          • 4697

          #1039
          You know, technically speaking, the game isn't over yet. If you can somehow break my narrative and push the game elsewhere, it could continue.

          I stopped here because it's where I'm stuck in my world. If you see something that could change the perspective of the game at this point, you're more than welcome to try.

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          • Hakulyte
            aka Haku
            • Jul 2005
            • 4697

            #1040
            In the world where you're town, you can still win if you're in parity with the last wolf.

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            • Charu
              Snivy! Dohoho!
              FFR Simfile Author
              • Mar 2006
              • 6207

              #1041
              What a powerful post, goodness.

              And now I feel bad.

              ...

              What if I trust fall you and YOLO


              Originally posted by JohnRedWolf87
              Charu the red-nosed Snivy
              Had a very shiny nose
              And if you ever saw it
              You could even say it glows

              All of the other Snivies
              Used to laugh and call him names
              They never let poor Charu
              Join in any Snivy games

              (Click the arrow to see the rest)


              Originally posted by Vendetta21
              All in all I would say that Charu not only won this game, his play made me reconsider how I play it.

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              • Charu
                Snivy! Dohoho!
                FFR Simfile Author
                • Mar 2006
                • 6207

                #1042
                I feel that came from the heart.

                If wolf, you'll never be taken for granted ever again just so you know!

                ...But if town, I really, truly wonder who would just play along with Lewdy's strat (of waiting)


                Originally posted by JohnRedWolf87
                Charu the red-nosed Snivy
                Had a very shiny nose
                And if you ever saw it
                You could even say it glows

                All of the other Snivies
                Used to laugh and call him names
                They never let poor Charu
                Join in any Snivy games

                (Click the arrow to see the rest)


                Originally posted by Vendetta21
                All in all I would say that Charu not only won this game, his play made me reconsider how I play it.

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                • Charmoeleon
                  Chargrilled, hot & spicy!
                  • Aug 2013
                  • 267

                  #1043
                  Originally posted by Hakulyte
                  You know, technically speaking, the game isn't over yet. If you can somehow break my narrative and push the game elsewhere, it could continue.

                  I stopped here because it's where I'm stuck in my world. If you see something that could change the perspective of the game at this point, you're more than welcome to try.
                  The only thing that makes sense in my head is that Lewdy genuinely went to bed without noticing Freezin's offer, and either raeko/roundbox were too busy to even talk or coordinate in wolf chat with Lewdy to get on the same page until Sunday night. Lewdy wakes up, sees Freezin's offer to him and my offer to you, and delays accepting things to work out a plan with one of them while simultaneously making me look wolf, figuring a connection would be made between their role flip and sticking around to help out a new player wolf partner.

                  Originally posted by Charu
                  What a powerful post, goodness.

                  And now I feel bad.

                  ...

                  What if I trust fall you and YOLO
                  Even if you're somehow being serious here I never take that offer. I'm 99% sure you're town but I'm terrified of that 1% chance of being wrong. I just want town to win, man.
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                  Kawaii025's Tournament of Randomness(D2)-2nd
                  Benguin's (and Xel's!) Rates Tourney #2(D2)-3rd
                  FFR Unofficial Tournament 2018(D2)-5th

                  Best AAA: Strength (37)
                  Best Blackflag: Heroes On Your Lawn At Night (53)
                  Best SDG: {Satori} v2 (48)
                  Best FC: Survive (64)



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                  • Hakulyte
                    aka Haku
                    • Jul 2005
                    • 4697

                    #1044
                    Originally posted by Charmoeleon
                    The only thing that makes sense in my head is that Lewdy genuinely went to bed without noticing Freezin's offer, and either raeko/roundbox were too busy to even talk or coordinate in wolf chat with Lewdy to get on the same page until Sunday night. Lewdy wakes up, sees Freezin's offer to him and my offer to you, and delays accepting things to work out a plan with one of them while simultaneously making me look wolf, figuring a connection would be made between their role flip and sticking around to help out a new player wolf partner.
                    I remember in your read list you saying that I should trust fall Raeko specifically. Do you still feel that way ?
                    Do you think MML is always town here ? Does it need to be Roundbox ?

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                    • Charmoeleon
                      Chargrilled, hot & spicy!
                      • Aug 2013
                      • 267

                      #1045
                      Originally posted by Hakulyte
                      I remember in your read list you saying that I should trust fall Raeko specifically. Do you still feel that way ?
                      Do you think MML is always town here ? Does it need to be Roundbox ?
                      I don't know. I haven't cleared any of them in my mind just yet. I was working on rereading the thread this morning to try and get the context of Lewdy's interactions with all three of them but stopped halfway when everyone just assumed the game had been fully solved. I can try to pick that effort back up but I don't think I can bring myself to do that tonight.
                      10th Official FFR Tournament(D1)-28th
                      badman7772's Tournament of Darkness(D1)-1st
                      Zenith's Cutthroat Tournament(D1)-1st
                      11th Official FFR Tournament(D1)-2nd
                      TheSmexxxyNoobs Ultimate Low Level Tourney(D2)-6th
                      Kawaii025's Tournament of Randomness(D2)-2nd
                      Benguin's (and Xel's!) Rates Tourney #2(D2)-3rd
                      FFR Unofficial Tournament 2018(D2)-5th

                      Best AAA: Strength (37)
                      Best Blackflag: Heroes On Your Lawn At Night (53)
                      Best SDG: {Satori} v2 (48)
                      Best FC: Survive (64)



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                      • MixMasterLar
                        Beach Bum Extraordinaire
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        • Aug 2006
                        • 5401

                        #1046
                        Originally posted by Hakulyte
                        In the world where you're town, you can still win if you're in parity with the last wolf.
                        Let's play with this idea because to be honest we only have to narrow the scum down to two people

                        Are we in agreement with who we feel is the second best candidate for scum?

                        Obviously not Haku or Charu

                        Between Round and Raeko, I suppose it's more of a coin toss to be but I know SunFan scumread Round. I also just feel like Lewdy wouldn't wait for Raeko, but really would rather wait for Raeko to post before I reached any hard conclusions between the two

                        Still, I think leaving Round and Moe behind wins the game

                        ​

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                        • MixMasterLar
                          Beach Bum Extraordinaire
                          FFR Simfile Author
                          • Aug 2006
                          • 5401

                          #1047
                          Originally posted by Charu
                          ...But if town, I really, truly wonder who would just play along with Lewdy's strat (of waiting)
                          An inactive is an obviously choice but I feel like they had to have been active enough that Lewdy felt he was still playing with them

                          Someone who....really wanted to keep playing, and have fun with everyone, and didn't want people to leave because they built up the hype for their first TWG here and accidentally picked like the worse TWG to play first....

                          ...I'm tired, boss
                          ​

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                          • MixMasterLar
                            Beach Bum Extraordinaire
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            • Aug 2006
                            • 5401

                            #1048
                            Originally posted by Charmoeleon
                            e-motions
                            You asked Lewdy to stay longer, or at least asked him at the start but to leave you behind because you wanted the full TWG experience

                            Is this frustration because you feel that your desire to have a full experience cost your team the game?

                            That isn't your fault, you know.

                            Everybody here ends up with a 50/50 win ratio on a long enough time frame; Werewolf really is the exercise of playing the game and not necessarily who comes out on top in the end. My first game was wolf in a very complicated set up too (two wolf teams and a few seers, which is no where near as complicated as this but still not 100% easy) and I fucked up so badly that I allowed either Gradiant or SunFan to seer and catch me(I forget who).

                            It happens
                            ​

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                            • MixMasterLar
                              Beach Bum Extraordinaire
                              FFR Simfile Author
                              • Aug 2006
                              • 5401

                              #1049
                              If Raeko ever posts, I am prepared to trust here and get the ball rolling

                              Haku, Charu, if you guys have reservations about Raeko being the runner-up to wolf, I am willing to discuss it and trust one of you before the timeline instead but gut says if it isn't Moe it's Round.

                              A POE of Round/Moe always wins here, sorry to say
                              ​

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                              • Charu
                                Snivy! Dohoho!
                                FFR Simfile Author
                                • Mar 2006
                                • 6207

                                #1050
                                Really tempted to reject Haku and YOLO trust in Cham


                                Originally posted by JohnRedWolf87
                                Charu the red-nosed Snivy
                                Had a very shiny nose
                                And if you ever saw it
                                You could even say it glows

                                All of the other Snivies
                                Used to laugh and call him names
                                They never let poor Charu
                                Join in any Snivy games

                                (Click the arrow to see the rest)


                                Originally posted by Vendetta21
                                All in all I would say that Charu not only won this game, his play made me reconsider how I play it.

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