TWG Turbo 41: Trust Fall! [GAME THREAD]
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I don't know what to say. I'm just gonna type some shit to get my feelings out there I guess, I dunno.
I got absorbed in the last game that was played because ben was playing in it. I'd known about FFR TWG games for a long time but never joined one on the forums, only a live TWG game on Discord with video call where I got voted out Day 0 because I stayed quiet the whole phase and then just agreed with something someone said near the end because I felt it was weird not to contribute somehow. So I was really excited and looking forward to this Turbo filling up. And then it stalled out for a while with signups, and I wasn't sure when it would happen, or if it would happen. We finally got up to 9 players before ben and I left for FWA, and we got to hang out with dance and sun. I asked sun about joining, and he did, and I was even more excited. I really built this game up in my head before it even started because I was looking forward to it so much.
I got my role PM, and it was town, which I was thankful for because I didn't think I could handle the pressure of being wolf in my first game. Even if this wasn't a standard game, I felt like I could contribute and weed out the wolves, and kinda prove to myself that I was capable of playing with you guys. I don't know why I felt the need to prove myself, I just did. I feel like I struggle sometimes with feeling like I'm good enough, and, well, this isn't the place for that conversation. Anyway.
The game was still early on, and I knew that read lists were a common thing that people did in these games. I hadn't done one before, and so I wanted to try one. And I'm still glad I did, because while I was putting it together, I really felt like I was playing the game. It was fun, like trying to solve some kind of puzzle. And then I shared it. I wanted to get conversation going, because I felt like the game was in a weird state where the early chatter was going on for a while, and the "game" part of the game wasn't happening, so I figured I'd start the ball rolling myself. And it worked. I thought things were going well.
Then Freezin gave Lewdy an offer overnight. I woke up, saw that, and my stomach dropped. I didn't trust either of them at that point, and I was pretty sure Haku was town after denying sun's offer. Haku had also put it out there that it was important for a town/town trust fall to happen first to not put town off to a bad start. So I blindly offered him a trust fall as soon as I could without thinking it through. I never considered how I would look if either Freezin or Lewdy flipped wolf. I just knew that I trusted Haku more than I trusted that pairing, and felt like I had to do something before it got accepted. And now town's gonna lose because I fucked up and people think I'm some mastermind TWG player even though this is genuinely the first proper game I've ever played. I've played Town of Salem. I've played One Night Ultimate Werewolf. I've played Werewords. That's it. I don't know why I'm being given so much credit. Is it just my play in comparison to the other new players? I don't know man, I fucking suck at this.
I don't know how I'm supposed to get anyone to trust me at this point. I don't think there is a way. I don't see a point in it either since town can just leave me in the game and still have a chance to win. I don't want to fuck this up for you guys. So just leave me alone.10th Official FFR Tournament(D1)-28th
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Best AAA: Strength (37)
Best Blackflag: Heroes On Your Lawn At Night (53)
Best SDG: {Satori} v2 (48)
Best FC: Survive (64)


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You know, technically speaking, the game isn't over yet. If you can somehow break my narrative and push the game elsewhere, it could continue.
I stopped here because it's where I'm stuck in my world. If you see something that could change the perspective of the game at this point, you're more than welcome to try.
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What a powerful post, goodness.
And now I feel bad.
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What if I trust fall you and YOLO
Originally posted by JohnRedWolf87Charu the red-nosed Snivy
Had a very shiny nose
And if you ever saw it
You could even say it glows
All of the other Snivies
Used to laugh and call him names
They never let poor Charu
Join in any Snivy games
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Originally posted by Vendetta21All in all I would say that Charu not only won this game, his play made me reconsider how I play it.Comment
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I feel that came from the heart.
If wolf, you'll never be taken for granted ever again just so you know!
...But if town, I really, truly wonder who would just play along with Lewdy's strat (of waiting)
Originally posted by JohnRedWolf87Charu the red-nosed Snivy
Had a very shiny nose
And if you ever saw it
You could even say it glows
All of the other Snivies
Used to laugh and call him names
They never let poor Charu
Join in any Snivy games
(Click the arrow to see the rest)
Originally posted by Vendetta21All in all I would say that Charu not only won this game, his play made me reconsider how I play it.Comment
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The only thing that makes sense in my head is that Lewdy genuinely went to bed without noticing Freezin's offer, and either raeko/roundbox were too busy to even talk or coordinate in wolf chat with Lewdy to get on the same page until Sunday night. Lewdy wakes up, sees Freezin's offer to him and my offer to you, and delays accepting things to work out a plan with one of them while simultaneously making me look wolf, figuring a connection would be made between their role flip and sticking around to help out a new player wolf partner.You know, technically speaking, the game isn't over yet. If you can somehow break my narrative and push the game elsewhere, it could continue.
I stopped here because it's where I'm stuck in my world. If you see something that could change the perspective of the game at this point, you're more than welcome to try.
Even if you're somehow being serious here I never take that offer. I'm 99% sure you're town but I'm terrified of that 1% chance of being wrong. I just want town to win, man.10th Official FFR Tournament(D1)-28th
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Kawaii025's Tournament of Randomness(D2)-2nd
Benguin's (and Xel's!) Rates Tourney #2(D2)-3rd
FFR Unofficial Tournament 2018(D2)-5th
Best AAA: Strength (37)
Best Blackflag: Heroes On Your Lawn At Night (53)
Best SDG: {Satori} v2 (48)
Best FC: Survive (64)


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I remember in your read list you saying that I should trust fall Raeko specifically. Do you still feel that way ?The only thing that makes sense in my head is that Lewdy genuinely went to bed without noticing Freezin's offer, and either raeko/roundbox were too busy to even talk or coordinate in wolf chat with Lewdy to get on the same page until Sunday night. Lewdy wakes up, sees Freezin's offer to him and my offer to you, and delays accepting things to work out a plan with one of them while simultaneously making me look wolf, figuring a connection would be made between their role flip and sticking around to help out a new player wolf partner.
Do you think MML is always town here ? Does it need to be Roundbox ?
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I don't know. I haven't cleared any of them in my mind just yet. I was working on rereading the thread this morning to try and get the context of Lewdy's interactions with all three of them but stopped halfway when everyone just assumed the game had been fully solved. I can try to pick that effort back up but I don't think I can bring myself to do that tonight.10th Official FFR Tournament(D1)-28th
badman7772's Tournament of Darkness(D1)-1st
Zenith's Cutthroat Tournament(D1)-1st
11th Official FFR Tournament(D1)-2nd
TheSmexxxyNoobs Ultimate Low Level Tourney(D2)-6th
Kawaii025's Tournament of Randomness(D2)-2nd
Benguin's (and Xel's!) Rates Tourney #2(D2)-3rd
FFR Unofficial Tournament 2018(D2)-5th
Best AAA: Strength (37)
Best Blackflag: Heroes On Your Lawn At Night (53)
Best SDG: {Satori} v2 (48)
Best FC: Survive (64)


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Let's play with this idea because to be honest we only have to narrow the scum down to two people
Are we in agreement with who we feel is the second best candidate for scum?
Obviously not Haku or Charu
Between Round and Raeko, I suppose it's more of a coin toss to be but I know SunFan scumread Round. I also just feel like Lewdy wouldn't wait for Raeko, but really would rather wait for Raeko to post before I reached any hard conclusions between the two
Still, I think leaving Round and Moe behind wins the game
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An inactive is an obviously choice but I feel like they had to have been active enough that Lewdy felt he was still playing with them
Someone who....really wanted to keep playing, and have fun with everyone, and didn't want people to leave because they built up the hype for their first TWG here and accidentally picked like the worse TWG to play first....
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You asked Lewdy to stay longer, or at least asked him at the start but to leave you behind because you wanted the full TWG experience
Is this frustration because you feel that your desire to have a full experience cost your team the game?
That isn't your fault, you know.
Everybody here ends up with a 50/50 win ratio on a long enough time frame; Werewolf really is the exercise of playing the game and not necessarily who comes out on top in the end. My first game was wolf in a very complicated set up too (two wolf teams and a few seers, which is no where near as complicated as this but still not 100% easy) and I fucked up so badly that I allowed either Gradiant or SunFan to seer and catch me(I forget who).
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If Raeko ever posts, I am prepared to trust here and get the ball rolling
Haku, Charu, if you guys have reservations about Raeko being the runner-up to wolf, I am willing to discuss it and trust one of you before the timeline instead but gut says if it isn't Moe it's Round.
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Really tempted to reject Haku and YOLO trust in Cham
Originally posted by JohnRedWolf87Charu the red-nosed Snivy
Had a very shiny nose
And if you ever saw it
You could even say it glows
All of the other Snivies
Used to laugh and call him names
They never let poor Charu
Join in any Snivy games
(Click the arrow to see the rest)
Originally posted by Vendetta21All in all I would say that Charu not only won this game, his play made me reconsider how I play it.Comment

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