TWG Turbo 41: Trust Fall! [GAME THREAD]

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  • Charu
    Snivy! Dohoho!
    FFR Simfile Author
    • Mar 2006
    • 6207

    #1051
    I might just do that and eat the remarks at post-game for "throwing" if this is a massive successful AoE on their part

    I don't see a wolf ever making such personal posts


    Originally posted by JohnRedWolf87
    Charu the red-nosed Snivy
    Had a very shiny nose
    And if you ever saw it
    You could even say it glows

    All of the other Snivies
    Used to laugh and call him names
    They never let poor Charu
    Join in any Snivy games

    (Click the arrow to see the rest)


    Originally posted by Vendetta21
    All in all I would say that Charu not only won this game, his play made me reconsider how I play it.

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    • Charu
      Snivy! Dohoho!
      FFR Simfile Author
      • Mar 2006
      • 6207

      #1052
      It's strange, the players left and Lewdy's wait make me scratch my head in confusion.

      In this reality if the wolf is one of mellon and or roundbox, I can absolutely see them willing to "wait" for the benefit of new players interacting since I believe they're good friends.

      And perhaps: when Cham made the offer to Haku in a panic as they claim, roundbox saw this and indeed go:

      "Hold on, don't actually, this is a good scapegoat."

      OR MAYBE: Mellon saw this and went:

      "This will be fun chaos if you stay."

      ...

      Either case, I dont see MML ever entertaining the wait ever in a million years. I can see it in my mind right now MML typing in ALL CAPS to Lewdy in wolf chat to take the offer immediately.



      Originally posted by JohnRedWolf87
      Charu the red-nosed Snivy
      Had a very shiny nose
      And if you ever saw it
      You could even say it glows

      All of the other Snivies
      Used to laugh and call him names
      They never let poor Charu
      Join in any Snivy games

      (Click the arrow to see the rest)


      Originally posted by Vendetta21
      All in all I would say that Charu not only won this game, his play made me reconsider how I play it.

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      • Charu
        Snivy! Dohoho!
        FFR Simfile Author
        • Mar 2006
        • 6207

        #1053
        Thats where I'm at currently, convince me why MML would ever entertain this idea with the way they've been posting before and after Lewdy finally accepted the trust fall


        Originally posted by JohnRedWolf87
        Charu the red-nosed Snivy
        Had a very shiny nose
        And if you ever saw it
        You could even say it glows

        All of the other Snivies
        Used to laugh and call him names
        They never let poor Charu
        Join in any Snivy games

        (Click the arrow to see the rest)


        Originally posted by Vendetta21
        All in all I would say that Charu not only won this game, his play made me reconsider how I play it.

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        • mellon_collie
          FFR Player
          • May 2017
          • 156

          #1054
          Originally posted by MixMasterLar
          If Raeko ever posts, I am prepared to trust here and get the ball rolling

          Haku, Charu, if you guys have reservations about Raeko being the runner-up to wolf, I am willing to discuss it and trust one of you before the timeline instead but gut says if it isn't Moe it's Round.

          A POE of Round/Moe always wins here, sorry to say
          What is it you want me to post? are you tryna trust fall with me?

          I was busy with social stuff last night, probably could have checked in a bit more after but I also feel like I've been waiting for roundbox to post more. If Charu is going to accept with Haku then roundbox, Lar and Charm are my options to trust fall with and I'd really like to hear more from roundbox. Just sucks because we were busy all weekend and now he has to work and he can't really play at work at all (there are days when he can barely message me on Discord), and we have board games tonight IRL when he's off work so it's like D: this game just started at a bad time

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          • mellon_collie
            FFR Player
            • May 2017
            • 156

            #1055
            Originally posted by Charmoeleon
            Even if you're somehow being serious here I never take that offer. I'm 99% sure you're town but I'm terrified of that 1% chance of being wrong. I just want town to win, man.
            Would you take a trust fall offer from anyone at this point? Even though we know for 99% sure that Charu is town you'd still deny it?? Why? Do you want to be left at the end?

            One thing about this game is to never, ever give up.... I've been backed into corners before where I thought I was for sure dead and somehow managed to talk my way out of it. Other than what the host says, most things in this game aren't really "confirmed" and it's worth trying to change people's minds even if what you're saying sounds like (or is) bullshit. everyone is paranoid and second guessing themselves.

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            • mellon_collie
              FFR Player
              • May 2017
              • 156

              #1056
              Originally posted by MixMasterLar
              If Raeko ever posts, I am prepared to trust here and get the ball rolling

              Haku, Charu, if you guys have reservations about Raeko being the runner-up to wolf, I am willing to discuss it and trust one of you before the timeline instead but gut says if it isn't Moe it's Round.

              A POE of Round/Moe always wins here, sorry to say
              OK sorry I think I misunderstood because of the typo, you mean you are prepared to trust HER (me) not "trust here"

              I still want to see roundbox post more but I'm not against it

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              • mellon_collie
                FFR Player
                • May 2017
                • 156

                #1057
                Originally posted by Charu
                Either case, I dont see MML ever entertaining the wait ever in a million years. I can see it in my mind right now MML typing in ALL CAPS to Lewdy in wolf chat to take the offer immediately.
                This seems right tbh (but also Lewdy could have just ignored him and stalled anyway) but I don't really see that happening I think this is probably right

                so maybe roundbox is safer to leave alive and I should trust with Lar...??

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                • roundbox
                  fhqwhgads
                  • Feb 2005
                  • 2086

                  #1058
                  I think it's just Lar at this point

                  Toko's big post seems so, so hard to fake, and if you're wolfing, honestly, I'm scared of you
                  Otherwise, the line about looking at reads list and wanting to deliver feels more like a town apologizing for letting down the game as opposed to a wolf
                  I don't know in what world a final wolf volunteers to be left out of trust falls (unless he somehow galaxy-brained Charu 's reaction)

                  I will always, always despise being wolf read out of PoE, and I feel like that's gonna be the thing that tanks my ability to trust fall with anyone here. Kinda lame since I came in with my 3 day handicap of family plans, but what can I do but post. Unlike when I first got in the thread, I'm down with trust falling now that I've got my shit together

                  I feel like raeko's defense of me leans towny. I burned her once when she gave me the benefit of the doubt for being gone (Charu, I'm sure you remember being an Alien in one of Freezin 's setups), so I know she'd be down my throat if those feelings ever returned.

                  Haku and Charu are hanging out being more or less confirmed, so it's really feeling like lar with a tinfoil side order of raeko
                  Originally posted by the sun fan
                  I'd be too tiny to be a bouncer



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                  • Charu
                    Snivy! Dohoho!
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    • Mar 2006
                    • 6207

                    #1059
                    But why is it MML?

                    Am I missing something here in their posting that suggests that they're the dirtiest?


                    Originally posted by JohnRedWolf87
                    Charu the red-nosed Snivy
                    Had a very shiny nose
                    And if you ever saw it
                    You could even say it glows

                    All of the other Snivies
                    Used to laugh and call him names
                    They never let poor Charu
                    Join in any Snivy games

                    (Click the arrow to see the rest)


                    Originally posted by Vendetta21
                    All in all I would say that Charu not only won this game, his play made me reconsider how I play it.

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                    • roundbox
                      fhqwhgads
                      • Feb 2005
                      • 2086

                      #1060
                      Originally posted by Charu
                      But why is it MML?

                      Am I missing something here in their posting that suggests that they're the dirtiest?
                      MML (and you) keep entertaining the idea of why Lewdy would slow roll and linking it to a new player, but I think it's a dead end of logic because lines like "the only logical conclusion" completely disregards literally any other configuration??
                      I did agree earlier that MML does sound like the kind of person that would harp at Lewdy to hammer, but at the same time, does this mean he did?

                      His trust fall timing was in the same window as Freezin/Lewdy. sunfan also had an offer open on him from Galaxink, so Lar opening a trust fall with sunfan didn't pose risks to the wolf team at all.
                      -if we assume Lar is wolf, he knew Galax/Sun was town, and sunfan not taking the offer from her makes sunfan look towny
                      -in the event that sunfan rejected Lar, there wouldn't be another town mechanically confirmed in the event that Lar trust falled another person that didn't accept (our most trusted people alive are those who rejected/not accepted a trust falls)
                      -and the most obvious one: win the game by exiting

                      Maybe I should just listen to Haku and ignore Lar's slot since I don't have to be in a trust fall with it
                      I'm used to needing to convince other people to go for my reads, so I'm probably just stuck in this mindset
                      Originally posted by the sun fan
                      I'd be too tiny to be a bouncer



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                      • roundbox
                        fhqwhgads
                        • Feb 2005
                        • 2086

                        #1061
                        raeko, I think Lar's handwaving of your wolfiness due to "Lewdy would wait for raeko" also weirds me out. Do you agree with this read on your potential behaviour??

                        Lar positioned himself against Toko, leaving that trust fall highly unlikely
                        I've been scum reading him, so highly unlikely with me
                        That leaves you, Haku, and Charu.
                        He's hardly interacted with you from what I remember, so this just feels wrong. He's lumped you in with me in most of his reads.


                        Look at me going back to doing the mindset I was talking about in my last post
                        Originally posted by the sun fan
                        I'd be too tiny to be a bouncer



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                        • mellon_collie
                          FFR Player
                          • May 2017
                          • 156

                          #1062
                          Originally posted by roundbox
                          raeko, I think Lar's handwaving of your wolfiness due to "Lewdy would wait for raeko" also weirds me out. Do you agree with this read on your potential behaviour??
                          I think that's the opposite of what he's saying? He thinks Lewdy would have left the game immediately if I was his partner, and left me to do my own thing. He stuck around because Toko as a newbie may have needed help in the thread. It was also tossed around that Lewdy was waiting for one of us to check in but that would have applied to both of us.

                          And yeah I would say it makes sense enough to seem like a real read that Lar made and not a fake wolf read

                          My question to Toko is still open tho about accepting any trust falls. because my way of thinking changes depending on if he's determined to stay til the end or if we have potentially two options to work with (he could still be one of those options ofc)

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                          • Hakulyte
                            aka Haku
                            • Jul 2005
                            • 4697

                            #1063
                            Cham showed early game that he has a great ability to switch between posting seriously and memeing. I really think you guys are making a big mistake here.

                            The only thing that confused me a bit about Roundbox/Raeko was that I believe they would be very annoyed if one of them was wolf in a trust fall so, they ended up being in this weird state.

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                            • Hakulyte
                              aka Haku
                              • Jul 2005
                              • 4697

                              #1064
                              Originally posted by Charu
                              I might just do that and eat the remarks at post-game for "throwing" if this is a massive successful AoE on their part

                              I don't see a wolf ever making such personal posts
                              Please don't make the game more difficult than it needs to be. Building this situation was already difficult in the first place.

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                              • Hakulyte
                                aka Haku
                                • Jul 2005
                                • 4697

                                #1065
                                At the very least, please leave Toko as the final hypothetical town slot in parity, but don't trust fall here.

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