jTWG XXIV: iTWG

[flawofhumanity]

Re: jTWG XXIV: iTWG

Through process of elimination, I believe this list contains ALL of the remaining wolves, possibly missing one, and this is the order I feel they should be lynched in to ensure us winning the game (don't take my word for it though):


T3hDDRKid
jugglingguy
Thunder
jwcgator


I can't show you my process of elimination, due to it possibly revealing the masons, but I'm sure enough to think that this could win us the game. Assuming there are two wolves remaining, we don't have room for very many mistakes, so this list could win you guys the game. The main change in this list (possibly, depending on their actions) is replacing jwc in the order with Thunder, but I think this list is accurate enough to win. Now naturally, finding evidence on these guys is up to you, as I will likely die tonight, but I assure you that the remaining wolves are most likely in this list.

I'm NOT telling you guys who you should lynch, but this is a list you guys should work from, but don't blindly trust it as you guys can't see how I went through my process of elimination.


NOTE: These people aren't on this list by evidence, but by process of elimination, and then are in order from my PERSONAL thoughts on who's most likely to be a wolf to least likely.

[thunderstrike687]

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kill me first!

[DiscoBobbyPARANOiA]

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You are woken from your slumber by the screams of flawofhumanity, coming from what sounds like the center of the village. You rush there, hoping to get a glimpse of the culprit, put no one else is in sight when you find him, laying in a pool of his own blood.

"If only.... " he begins, "faster.... it was...."

And before your eyes, he passes on to what your tribe calls 'the second half.'

"I CANT TAKE THIS ANYMORE!" shouts jwcgator, "We need to rid the village of this evil so we can get back to our lives. At this rate, our community will be unsalvageable when it's over."

"Let's go," T3hDDRKid stated, and started walking towards the elder's house.





flawofhumanity IS DEAD.

Players still alive:
kentbball
X3R0H0UR
jugglinguy
x3Mamimi
jwcgator
thunderstrike687
DarkManticoreX2
T3hDDRKid
Yesssss
nijatwo

It is now Day 4. Day will end Tuesday at midnight. (EST)

Current vote chart:
jwcgator(1.01) - Phantom, Phantom
nijatwo(1.01) - Phantom, Phantom
X3R0H0UR(.01) - Phantom
thunderstrike687(.01) - Phantom

[nijatwo]

Re: jTWG XXIV: iTWG

@ DBP: neither time was my ENTIRE post about fixing someone's or dining in hell , I made sure to include something important somewhere. PS: When you see what's actually in the picture I posted before you'll **** brix.

@jTWG: I'm excited to have been process or eliminated by our half-ass mason who came out in the thread like a retard, however I'm not excited to see who is left. I have a very strong feeling that farka was either blue or red and it's a big clue as to whether or not we could trust flaw. If all 4 wolves were alive then for them to kill 1 to justify that list makes sense, but then again if farka was a wolf and 2 out of the 4 there are wolves, we can just kill all 4 in any order and be successful @ winning the game.

JWC is playing his normal self, which is always hard to read either way because he doesn't contribute much at all on the frontend, especially with his voting. DDRkid however, is playing his blue/red game as opposed to his green game (see all previous games), though he may just be doing better than he did in his green game. Jugglin I've heard absolutely nothing from and have no opinion either way and Thunder I need to talk to you asap. I know that his goal was to remove the masons from the list along with any confirmed greens, but just because our mason front-end said so doesn't mean we should hump his strat and go for it.

Yess, Manti, Mamimi, x3r0, me, etc. I'll be on aim on wednesday, and maybe some tonight, but for the rest of the time I'm PM/Thread only.

[T3hDDRKid]

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DDRkid however, is playing his blue/red game as opposed to his green game (see all previous games), though he may just be doing better than he did in his green game.

Yes, look back at all the previous games and see that I was red, then blue. I just always get accused, and I try to avoid it [besides that, I've been very busy.]

[DarkManticoreX2]

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Nija you just don't seem to get it. Flaw can't possibly have been a wolf. There is no way in hell our masons were dumb enough to let a wolf lead the pack for 2 full days. For once put a bit of thought into that. I know you haven't been in the thread much due to w/e you do, but Multiple people stated that if Flaw was a wolf, a mason should come out saying Flaw is being a flase mason.

In other news, I believe JWC is human, while I have new leads on other people I wasn't suspicious of before.

DDR I think you and me need to have a nice long chat tonight. You're being way inactive which isn't like you. If you are a wolf, you're the shaman. I have a hard time believing someone with so much insight in both our previous games wouldn't be able to find time to make a single helpful post. This could be your first game as a green as well, and your feeling a bit overwhelmed with the lack of info.

[T3hDDRKid]

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Mant, I tried to talk to you tonight, but you were away, then you signed off - I'll be on tomorrow after seven, however [tutoring again -.-]

[DarkManticoreX2]

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Ok boys and girls, I can win this game for us right now. Here's how.

There are 2 possible wolf groups of 2 people left. Our final suspects are either

DDR & Thunder
or
Yessss & Jugglin

I have reason to suspect Yess and jugglin more than ddr and thunder, so I'll cut ddr and thunder a break. Here's the deal DDR and thunder. If you guys provide me with A SINGLE Microsoft Word log of the two of you speaking over aim, that was created before yesterday, You will proove humanity to me. According to DDR his computer basically died and deleted all his AIM data before some date. THIS LOG HAS TO COME FROM YOU THUNDER.

On the other hand, I have gotten 2 logs of Yesssss + Jugglin, however, they are 5 line logs, and I have reason to believe they were either parts of bigger logs or created in the 5 minutes Yesss was "looking for the files".

So here's the kicker, THE HUMAN GROUP WILL GIVE ME THE LOG I AM ASKING FOR. Why? because wolves don't save conversations with each other. If either of these groups fail to co-operate with me, you can be sure to see a very large convincing post on who the wolves are.

I'm gonna ask for this as well, I may very well die tonight because I played hardball with Yesss last night. (I'll post AIM convo when I get home in 2 hours). I need to talk to a mason, Your info could very well help me uncover the group. (seering night 2, confirmed humans etc...)

If neither group works with me, I believe those 4 are wolves and should be lynched in this order because of phantoms, and also because lynching one group and then the other has the possibilty of hitting the wrong group of wolves. The wolves could then take over the lynch because of phantoms.

lynch like this in case neither group works with me.

Jugglin
DDR
Yesssss
Thunder

I realize I haven't connected Yesssss and Jugglin yet. expect another post in a couple hours connecting the two. (when I get home and have access to AIM)

[DarkManticoreX2]

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If neither group works with me, I believe those 4 are wolves and should be lynched in this order because of phantoms, and also because lynching one group and then the other has the possibilty of hitting the wrong group of wolves. The wolves could then take over the lynch because of phantoms.

If neither group works with me, I believe those 4 are wolves

Well since no editing, I ment I believe those 4 are possible wolves

[DarkManticoreX2]

Re: jTWG XXIV: iTWG

Some Aim chats everyone First this,

The bolded lines are important.

YessBrb (5:59:41 PM): well DDR doesn't seem like he knows very much, so as far as I know he's human to me
DarkManticoreX2 (5:59:56 PM): and thunder?
YessBrb (6:00:11 PM): he seems a little on the devil's advocate side
YessBrb (6:00:32 PM): and not especially wolfy, although he seems a little more wolfy than DDR
DarkManticoreX2 (6:01:18 PM): Well, in my big post I tried to explain to the best of my abaility why I think the three of those guys are wolves
DarkManticoreX2 (6:01:42 PM): I think the most important thing on thunder, though, is this line
DarkManticoreX2 (6:02:32 PM): Also, the only people Flaw EVER requested a seering from personally were in front of Farka and FJ, in a private chat. (again info given to me while asking for the timeline). So, the only way he could know that Flaw requested a seering is through the wolf grapevine.
DarkManticoreX2 (6:02:57 PM): keep that in mind because I think thats the most incriminating thing on thunder
YessBrb (6:04:01 PM): it does seem a little logical though
YessBrb (6:04:28 PM): but it does seem he has been trying to hard not to get any suspicion on himself
DarkManticoreX2 (6:04:47 PM): and he flipped out when he did have suspicion
YessBrb (6:05:13 PM): well he was close to getting lynched at the time. I would probably flip out
DarkManticoreX2 (6:05:29 PM): he had three votes
DarkManticoreX2 (6:05:33 PM): 1 was a safety
YessBrb (6:05:58 PM): hm I remember it being around 5
YessBrb (6:06:13 PM): but if it's 3 then it does seem a little overreacting
DarkManticoreX2 (6:07:57 PM): he had one safety from you
YessBrb (6:08:05 PM): also during the time there was very little evidence against anyone else
YessBrb (6:08:26 PM): but since he put the blame on someone else, that just seems a little fishy to me
DarkManticoreX2 (6:08:57 PM): Yeah, It wasn't a big deal because all the votes on him were basically "I'll put this on thunder for now untill something better comes up"
YessBrb (6:08:57 PM): he also said a few posts later that farka wasn't a concern
DarkManticoreX2 (6:09:08 PM): mmmhmm
DarkManticoreX2 (6:11:35 PM): heres an interesting note as well
DarkManticoreX2 (6:11:52 PM): x3ro has been more inactive than vash has, and Vash is banned
YessBrb (6:12:27 PM): it doesn't seem like either of them have been too active though, although I can't say much due to my lack of activity as well
YessBrb (6:12:42 PM): I need to learn to talk to people more often
DarkManticoreX2 (6:12:57 PM): outta da clam shell u
DarkManticoreX2 (6:15:11 PM): the big post I have on the bottom of page 21 is my reasoning behind my suspicions
DarkManticoreX2 (6:15:55 PM): If demon was indeed a wolf and farka and thunder are as well, I wouldn't worry about ddr
DarkManticoreX2 (6:16:21 PM): but If not, those three are probably wolves
DarkManticoreX2 (6:16:33 PM): or at least 2 of them
YessBrb (6:18:05 PM): it is true that DDR has been bandwagoning too much
YessBrb (6:18:32 PM): I've made sure to state my own reasons for my own votes, as long as they are not safeties
DarkManticoreX2 (6:18:59 PM): right which leads me to believe ddr is trying to avoid attention
DarkManticoreX2 (6:19:05 PM): I think hes the shaman
YessBrb (6:19:15 PM): it does make sense
DarkManticoreX2 (6:19:30 PM): farka - MW
Thunder - Reg wolf
DDr - Shaman
DarkManticoreX2 (6:19:40 PM): thunders doing all the leg work
YessBrb (6:19:44 PM): I'm still not quite completely convinced yet
YessBrb (6:20:00 PM): I'd need a little more information later before I put a vote on them
YessBrb (6:20:21 PM): but DDR seems more of a wolf than thunder to me

In the course of 20 minutes he goes from thinking thunder was more wolfy than DDR to the exact opposite. The only thing I offered him on DDR was bandwagoning.

here's the next peice.

DarkManticoreX2 (9:13:50 PM): hey jugglin
heyitsme975 (9:14:12 PM): oh hey manti
DarkManticoreX2 (9:14:13 PM): sup?
heyitsme975 (9:14:32 PM): nothin much, you?
DarkManticoreX2 (9:14:25 PM): I haven't got a chance to talk to you yet
DarkManticoreX2 (9:14:37 PM): readin through the twg thread
DarkManticoreX2 (9:14:40 PM): you?
heyitsme975 (9:14:59 PM): same here
DarkManticoreX2 (9:15:14 PM): anything good?
heyitsme975 (9:15:37 PM): not that much sadly
DarkManticoreX2 (9:15:56 PM): thoughts on thunder and ddr?
heyitsme975 (9:16:18 PM): thunder seemed wolfy to me at the beginning
heyitsme975 (9:16:35 PM): (with the tempertantrum an all)
heyitsme975 (9:16:50 PM): but then i've had a few chats, and i'm starting to doubt him
heyitsme975 (9:16:55 PM): and for ddr none
DarkManticoreX2 (9:17:00 PM): read my big post?
heyitsme975 (9:17:14 PM): how bout you?
heyitsme975 (9:18:21 PM): you mean the log?
DarkManticoreX2 (9:18:23 PM): I made a big post on pg 21
heyitsme975 (9:18:45 PM): ok
DarkManticoreX2 (9:18:32 PM): on my suspicions
DarkManticoreX2 (9:18:41 PM): near the bottom
heyitsme975 (9:19:23 PM): man i probably shouldn't of selected the 30 posts a page option
DarkManticoreX2 (9:19:17 PM): lol
DarkManticoreX2 (9:20:14 PM): you talked to ddr at all?
heyitsme975 (9:20:40 PM): i haven't seen him on much
heyitsme975 (9:20:47 PM): and he hasn't really said anything when he was
DarkManticoreX2 (9:20:46 PM):
heyitsme975 (9:21:44 PM): k i changed the setting
DarkManticoreX2 (9:21:34 PM): you've been inactive for the most part so im trying to get a read on you
DarkManticoreX2 (9:21:41 PM): who have you talked to
DarkManticoreX2 (9:21:43 PM): ?
heyitsme975 (9:22:41 PM): mamimi, flaw, twilight, and for the one night pntballa was alive lol
heyitsme975 (9:22:52 PM): those i've talked to the most
DarkManticoreX2 (9:22:55 PM): anybodt else?
DarkManticoreX2 (9:23:01 PM): anybody*
heyitsme975 (9:23:19 PM): yes
heyitsme975 (9:23:22 PM): but not all that much
DarkManticoreX2 (9:23:14 PM): remember i've talked to everybody by now
heyitsme975 (9:23:40 PM): kent alot too
heyitsme975 (9:23:45 PM): how bout we make a chat room?
DarkManticoreX2 (9:23:44 PM): k
heyitsme975 (9:24:01 PM): ok
heyitsme975 (9:24:43 PM): whoops
heyitsme975 (9:24:51 PM): different chat now, i made one and manti made one at same time
heyitsme975 (9:25:12 PM): lol
DarkManticoreX2 (9:24:59 PM): i am manti
heyitsme975 (9:25:20 PM): when it said
heyitsme975 (9:25:25 PM): Yessbrb has been invited
heyitsme975 (9:25:29 PM): i skimmed it misread lol

Jugglin claims to have never talked to Yesss, But as you can see from this log:

DarkManticoreX2 (10:11:50 PM): Hey wolf
YessBrb (10:12:01 PM): hey wolf
DarkManticoreX2 (10:12:11 PM): jugglin gave you up
DarkManticoreX2 (10:12:12 PM): xD
YessBrb (10:12:21 PM): ?
YessBrb (10:12:30 PM): ah
YessBrb (10:12:33 PM): messing with me
DarkManticoreX2 (10:12:44 PM): no not really
DarkManticoreX2 (10:12:51 PM): i have the log to proove it
DarkManticoreX2 (10:13:17 PM):
DarkManticoreX2 (9:23:44 PM): k

heyitsme975 (9:24:01 PM): ok

heyitsme975 (9:24:43 PM): whoops

heyitsme975 (9:24:51 PM): different chat now, i made one and manti made one at same time

heyitsme975 (9:25:12 PM): lol

DarkManticoreX2 (9:24:59 PM): i am manti

heyitsme975 (9:25:20 PM): when it said

heyitsme975 (9:25:25 PM): Yessbrb has been invited
DarkManticoreX2 (10:13:27 PM):
xD
DarkManticoreX2 (10:13:33 PM):
played a good game dude
YessBrb (10:13:57 PM): how does that make me a wolf?
DarkManticoreX2 (10:14:32 PM):
because eaarlier while talking to me he said he didn't talk to you at all
DarkManticoreX2 (10:14:49 PM):
which I've found out was also a lie

Yesss types a lot and I assume is buying time here

DarkManticoreX2 (10:16:12 PM):
so its finalized
DarkManticoreX2 (10:16:16 PM):

YessBrb (10:16:46 PM): lemme send you all the logs I have with him
YessBrb (10:16:58 PM): I haven't really talked to him at all
DarkManticoreX2 (10:17:38 PM): please send away then
YessBrb (10:18:01 PM): aim saves them in a weird place. I have to find them first. XD
DarkManticoreX2 (10:18:30 PM): you've got the time I get out of the shower to falsefy a log
DarkManticoreX2 (10:18:39 PM): otherwise
DarkManticoreX2 (10:18:43 PM): your screwed
YessBrb (10:18:57 PM): I'm just going to send you the file
YessBrb (10:19:03 PM): with the logs in them
YessBrb (10:19:39 PM): there
ATTENTION (10:19:44 PM): Transfer complete: IM “heyitsme975”-2007.03.html.

Heres what he gave me: a couple of six line logs, BUT NOTICE THE TIME THE CONVOS END

New conversation started at 3/7/07 3:30:08 PM.
heyitsme975 (3:30:08 PM): Should i create a chat room?
YessBrb (3:30:32 PM): probably not. I don't think very many people are on right now
heyitsme975 (3:31:06 PM): well there's, me you, kent, flaw, jwc and fikshon
heyitsme975 (3:31:18 PM): and demon
YessBrb (3:31:28 PM): that's less than half
heyitsme975 (3:31:37 PM): true
YessBrb (3:31:47 PM): they'll probably create one when something comes up, or when we need one
heyitsme975 (3:31:53 PM): but right now we pretty much need everything we can get?
“heyitsme975” signed off at 4:47:46 PM.

Conversation ended at 3/7/07 4:56:56 PM.

New conversation started at 3/11/07 6:23:03 PM.
heyitsme975 (6:23:02 PM): hey yess
YessBrb (6:23:13 PM): hey
heyitsme975 (6:23:56 PM): what are you doin?
YessBrb (6:24:11 PM): Stepmania
heyitsme975 (6:24:27 PM): oh fun
YessBrb (6:25:19 PM): so why have you been so inactive during the whole jTWG
heyitsme975 (6:25:43 PM): I dunno no one seems to have any leads of who's a wolf
Conversation ended at 3/11/07 6:40:45 PM.

I think these were thrown together when I accused him as a last ditch effort to throw me off.

I also think Yesss's "I don't message people, they message me" is a sign wolf work as well. What human sits back and waits for the information to come to them? Thunder, send me your first chat with DDR. If very suspicious of Yesssss and Jugglin by this point. You can clean your name by doing so.

[x3Mamimi]

Re: jTWG XXIV: iTWG

Yessss and Jugglin makes a lot of sense, as I brought up to some earlier, I'm assuming that the wolves are noobs and are simply lost without their leader, and thus, when that leader wasn't online, they lost their kill.

I've not talked much with either of them, so, I'd suggest both of you be online tonight. :]

[DarkManticoreX2]

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I knew there was a link for the two of them somwhere.

Can someone explain to me what a phantom is please? I haven't been able to find info on that anywhere >.<

I'm glad I'm not the only one that thought all that activity last night was so useless.

Also I have no idea what a phantom is. Could someone explain it? (there wasn't any info about it in the stickies).

[nijatwo]

Re: jTWG XXIV: iTWG

Might not be on tonight, going to vote for yesss after talking to a few people. If everything works out properly I'll be back at school before deadline.

[jwcgator]

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Night 1 random banter with Yessss(the autolog in trillian doesn't let you copy the timestamps) bolded things are things of importance

jwcgator2: Yessssssss
jwcgator2: sup
YessBrb: sup
jwcgator2: Wolf
YessBrb: wha?
jwcgator2: You're a wolf >:O
YessBrb: Is it because I don't talk much?
jwcgator2: lol chill
jwcgator2: im messin with ya
YessBrb: I know
YessBrb: I was just curious why you were saying that
jwcgator2: oh lol
YessBrb: too early to make accusations
jwcgator2: No doubt
jwcgator2: ps. everyone is a wolf
YessBrb: betr lynch everyone then
jwcgator2: yah
YessBrb: brb suicide
YessBrb: o wait
jwcgator2: Yesssssssssssssssss
YessBrb: if we're all wolves, then wouldn't we all win?
YessBrb: that's no fun =(
jwcgator2: oh snap
jwcgator2: thats right
jwcgator2: brb 8-1
jwcgator2: XD
YessBrb: haha
jwcgator2: What is your role?
(eight minutes twenty-four seconds pass by)
YessBrb: oops I just noticed you asked me that. I'm just a boring human


Yesssss, the log speaks for itself

[Yesssss]

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Some Aim chats everyone First this,
The bolded lines are important.

(insert chat here)

I can't remember what I was thinking at the time. It may have been that I changed my mind during the duration of the convo, or it may have been a mistype. I wish I could explain it better.

Heres what he gave me: a couple of six line logs, BUT NOTICE THE TIME THE CONVOS END

Are those times significant? They're 4 days apart you know. Also I'm rarely ever home on a weekday before 4PM (mountain time).
I'm not sure about your AIM client, but mine saves all my convos with a person in one file. So I didn't even open it outside of AIM. I can even provide you with a screenshot of the last time that file was edited.

I also think Yesss's "I don't message people, they message me" is a sign wolf work as well. What human sits back and waits for the information to come to them? Thunder, send me your first chat with DDR. If very suspicious of Yesssss and Jugglin by this point. You can clean your name by doing so.

"I don't message people unless I have a reason to message people."

I'm just not a talkative person. I'm also quite fragile when I'm put on the spotlight with limited time (you said that I had only a little time to defend myself anyway). I like to think things through for a while. Which is why I prefer not to chat people unless they want to chat with me. I'd personally prefer to stick to the forums (as I type more on forums than I chat).