jTWG XVI: Back to the Beginning: GAME CALLED OFF

**vashthestampede0987** · 12-15-2005, 11:34 AM

RE: jTWG XVI: Back to the Beginning: Night 1

I know I'm not playing but.....wtf is 5PM FFR time?

**mattc16** · 12-15-2005, 01:47 PM

RE: jTWG XVI: Back to the Beginning: Night 1

The townspeople, after a mostly sleepless night, awoke to find the fire still burning blue.

"There's only 11 of us here! Where's FoJaR?" said MiniNeo.

"Uh, guys, that doesn't look good." said Nija, pointing towards FoJaR's house, where all that was left was a charred wreck and the skeleton of FoJaR.

"Looks like the wisemen weren't lying then, I suppose we'd better get on with voting." sighed Psycho

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Players left:

PsYcHoZeRoSk8eR (the same)
gonzo4life44 (the same)
Specforces (takethetbird)
chickendude (chickendude1313)
Freak83 (Real Freak83)
MiniNeo (min1ne0)
iggymatrixcounter (Iggy911Mc)
hiyasucka (Tallwrestler05)
Nija (rebelnija)
dAnceguy117 (P337teh1337)
Tasuke (tasuke1382)

You have until 10PM GMT on Sunday to vote. (5PM EST I think, you'll have to check up on that.)

Vash, I used FFR time because it's the same for everyone, and as I'm English, i thought it'd be easier

**chickendude** · 12-15-2005, 02:12 PM

RE: jTWG XVI: Back to the Beginning: Night 1

FFR time isn't the same for everyone though
there's an option to change it somewhere
plus its WAAAAY off >_>

**Nija** · 12-15-2005, 02:12 PM

RE: jTWG XVI: Back to the Beginning: Night 1

So um... that blows. Big time. Once again, the wolves ice the first person on the list, giving us basically nothing to go on.. any thoughts so far?

.Nija

**Freak83** · 12-15-2005, 04:19 PM

RE: jTWG XVI: Back to the Beginning: Night 1

I just got back from downtown so not a thing =/

**dAnceguy117** · 12-15-2005, 04:35 PM

RE: jTWG XVI: Back to the Beginning: Night 1

Looks to me like the wolves have a thing for racial discrimination. (if you don't get it, don't ask.. actually, I think only Fojar and Chickendude will get it, but it had to be done)

Anyway, I haven't been keeping up with the recent jTWGs. I guess I'll look up what Fojar has done in the past to make himself stand out.

**dAnceguy117** · 12-15-2005, 05:14 PM

RE: jTWG XVI: Back to the Beginning: Night 1

Wow.. Well that's fishy as hell. Maybe it's just a framing attempt. Not quite sure yet.

Don't know what I'm talking about? Here, I'll show you. I read over the last jTWG (Fojar's first), and nothing made him really stand out to me, except for the fact that he picked out igot very quickly. A look at the postgame gave me this:

Originally posted by FoJaR

sorry nija

At that point, I was thinking, "Hmm, maybe there's something to this." A second look at the next-to-last page in the jTWG told me that apparently Fojar was pushing for Nija to insta Purple, the seer. At least, that's how I took it. If anyone can prove otherwise, go for it. It didn't seem completely clear to me what was going on.

Now I'm thinking, okay, I've got one relation to Fojar. Just one? That's odd. I look back over what's happened so far, and notice that Nija made what I find a pretty wolfy post. Now, if he hadn't posted yet, I might not have brought this up at all. The fact of the matter is that Nija not only did post, but posted something that's been proven time and time again to be what wolves do: making a "wow good kill gg wolves"-type post. I've always found this theory faulty, simply because it's so often mentioned that there's no reason for wolves to do it anymore. Last game was Nija's first, though, so I wouldn't be surprised if he missed that bit.

There are two things holding me back from placing an early vote on Nija. First, just because Fojar accidentally led him in the wrong direction, is that something to hold a grudge against him for? It's not like he knowingly deceived him. Second: so maybe he has a grudge. So what? Why would the other wolf give in to wolfing them?

Now, just to hold this theory in place, the other wolf wouldn't have much reason to turn the suggestion down. There's a few veterans in this game, and while Fojar is smart, he's less likely to catch a guard than some others.

I'm just leaving this up for discussion. I'd like some opinions, and maybe some background information from anyone who played last game.

**PsYcHoZeRoSk8eR** · 12-15-2005, 05:20 PM

RE: jTWG XVI: Back to the Beginning: Night 1

RebelNija (7:00:32 PM): haha... ok
PsYcHoZeRoSk8eR (7:00:57 PM): just passing the message along... and anythoughts on the jTWG wovles?
RebelNija (7:01:05 PM): not yet.
RebelNija (7:01:10 PM): but hey, they didn't nail you this time
PsYcHoZeRoSk8eR (7:01:12 PM): so you are a wolf then
PsYcHoZeRoSk8eR (7:01:16 PM):

i know
RebelNija (7:01:27 PM): hahaha
PsYcHoZeRoSk8eR (7:02:01 PM): so you are a wolf?
RebelNija (7:02:13 PM): nope.
RebelNija (7:02:17 PM): green with envy.
PsYcHoZeRoSk8eR (7:02:22 PM): huh?
RebelNija (7:02:58 PM): i'm green.
RebelNija (7:03:00 PM): and was making a pun
PsYcHoZeRoSk8eR (7:03:14 PM): ok, i'll take your word on that
PsYcHoZeRoSk8eR (7:03:21 PM): and i'm voting you as wolf
RebelNija (7:03:22 PM): haha
RebelNija (7:03:30 PM): oh...
RebelNija (7:03:34 PM): that would suck.
RebelNija (7:03:37 PM): haha
PsYcHoZeRoSk8eR (7:03:38 PM): yep
PsYcHoZeRoSk8eR (7:03:40 PM): it would

and

Originally posted by FoJaR

sorry nija

from the end of the last game.

Not much to go on, wanting to be a wolf, and revenge for the last game.
Nija

**dAnceguy117** · 12-15-2005, 05:25 PM

Re: RE: jTWG XVI: Back to the Beginning: Night 1

sup triple post 8)

I just noticed what I said about Nija's post is a bit unclear. I'll elaborate on it.

Originally posted by Nija

So um... that blows. Big time. Once again, the wolves ice the first person on the list, giving us basically nothing to go on.. any thoughts so far?

First, he talks about how much it sucks that he doesn't know the reason for the wolfing. Why? Why would you do this as a human? Are you really that dumbfounded by the wolfing that you have nothing contributive to say? As a wolf, the purpose of this would be to lead others in the direction that there's no real reason for the wolfing other than creating no leads.

Then, he gives a ridiculous reason for "not having anything to go on". So he was the first on the list. What's wrong with that? Does that really lead you to conclude that the wolves just picked the one at the top of the list for no reason?

As a human, this is a completely worthless post. It's got two opinions that are completely pointless other than to lead in one direction, and I'll tell you now, that direction is the "damn, nothing to go on, I don't feel like posting, yay inactivity" direction. That's not something that a human wants. That's something a wolf wants.

**dAnceguy117** · 12-15-2005, 05:33 PM

RE: Re: RE: jTWG XVI: Back to the Beginning: Night 1

Psycho, you ruined my triple post. You suck.

Personally, I see nothing wrong with the conversation (other than Nija's reaction, but I'll get on that in a second). I don't know about you, but I sure as hell want to be a wolf. All of the hosts conspire against me to make sure I'm not, and haven't been through whatever straight games. The point being, there's really nothing wrong with wanting to be a wolf.

Now, there is something that strikes me as terribly strange from there. It's the "oh, that would suck" bit. Are you kidding me? That sounds horribly forced. If someone approached me like that, I would be next to flipping out. "Why? This early? Have you really been able to draw any solid conclusions from anything?"

I think the conversation has given me enough reason to place my vote on Nija. However, this is the second vote on him in a very short amount of time. I don't want this to get out of hand. Keep in mind the instalynch, people. We haven't gotten past the 1 page mark yet. This isn't a problem because of time, but because of content. I feel like I've seen enough to place my vote, but ending the day right now would be a crying shame.

**Freak83** · 12-15-2005, 05:44 PM

RE: Re: RE: jTWG XVI: Back to the Beginning: Night 1

That's a bit of a statement danceguy. I don't know either Nija or FoJaR so I could have easily said the same thing about not having a clue to go on. Now from what you're saying Nija has played with FoJaR before, so ok at least he's had a bit of experience with the guy but all the same this is jTWG. I'd be surprised to not see a post at the front saying something along the lines of "no idea of what to go on". I understand your perspective, I just don't see any indication of a wolf or human in Nija's post.

Anyway, I'm not shunning him out of the picture, let's just make sure he doesn't get bandwagoned on the first day, that's never been a smart thing to do

**Nija** · 12-15-2005, 06:14 PM

RE: Re: RE: jTWG XVI: Back to the Beginning: Night 1

Sorry about that first post.. I was just trying to start discussion. To clear up what happened last game, Fojar and I started an alliance early, and we had every blue with us... and then at the end he told me we needed to kill purple because he was faking seer, so I went for it because I trusted fojar's judgement. That's what he was apologizing for, for having me insta the seer.. haha. Yeah, I'm a newb.. sorry.

**PsYcHoZeRoSk8eR** · 12-15-2005, 06:23 PM

RE: Re: RE: jTWG XVI: Back to the Beginning: Night 1

Sorry about mesing up your quad post dance, but I thought it was important. Also, more of my convo with Nija :

PsYcHoZeRoSk8eR (7:03:38 PM): yep
PsYcHoZeRoSk8eR (7:03:40 PM): it would
RebelNija (7:04:45 PM): haha
RebelNija (7:04:50 PM): see..
RebelNija (7:04:52 PM): like last game..
PsYcHoZeRoSk8eR (7:05:02 PM): huh?
PsYcHoZeRoSk8eR (7:05:06 PM): i was busy posting
RebelNija (7:05:06 PM): there isn't much to go on except for the first-person-on-the-list kill
PsYcHoZeRoSk8eR (7:05:39 PM): or ... well, i got nothing
RebelNija (7:06:00 PM): yeah...
RebelNija (7:06:00 PM): orwell..
RebelNija (7:06:06 PM): like the guy that wrote.. 1984
PsYcHoZeRoSk8eR (7:06:21 PM): what are you talking about?
RebelNija (7:06:33 PM): there was a book called 1984
RebelNija (7:06:37 PM): written by George Orwell
PsYcHoZeRoSk8eR (7:06:40 PM): never heard of it
RebelNija (7:07:23 PM): oh! it's a good read
PsYcHoZeRoSk8eR (7:07:49 PM): i don't know... UBIK was a good read, that will be a hard book to follow
RebelNija (7:08:38 PM): ubik?
PsYcHoZeRoSk8eR (7:09:18 PM): Philip K. Dick... 1960's author... thriller kinda
RebelNija (7:09:36 PM): oooh
RebelNija (7:09:40 PM): i'll look it up
PsYcHoZeRoSk8eR (7:09:43 PM): check him out if you have the time, i'd highly recommend it
RebelNija (7:10:13 PM): mmk
RebelNija (7:10:19 PM): i'm going to the library tomorrow night
PsYcHoZeRoSk8eR (7:11:08 PM):

, none of your wolf friends are on to talk to...
RebelNija (7:13:15 PM): hehe
RebelNija (7:13:15 PM): none of yours are either.
PsYcHoZeRoSk8eR (7:13:45 PM): i'm human
RebelNija (7:13:57 PM): right.
PsYcHoZeRoSk8eR (7:14:02 PM): i have nothing to worry about except those backstabbing wolves again
RebelNija (7:14:03 PM): that's what the wolf told me
PsYcHoZeRoSk8eR (7:14:05 PM): stupid vash
PsYcHoZeRoSk8eR (7:14:11 PM): ok
RebelNija (7:14:13 PM): yar...
RebelNija (7:14:20 PM): you got pwnt last game
PsYcHoZeRoSk8eR (7:14:26 PM): i don't care if you think im a wolf, and yes, i did
PsYcHoZeRoSk8eR (7:14:36 PM): but back to you being the wolf...
RebelNija (7:15:50 PM): haha
RebelNija (7:15:55 PM): have you played Ocarina of Time?
PsYcHoZeRoSk8eR (7:16:00 PM): yea
PsYcHoZeRoSk8eR (7:16:05 PM): who hasn't?
RebelNija (7:16:34 PM): haha
RebelNija (7:16:37 PM): you'd be suprised.
RebelNija (7:16:48 PM): i had the day off school because of the ice storm thing...
RebelNija (7:16:50 PM): and i've been playing it.
RebelNija (7:16:55 PM): forgot how awesome it was.. haha
PsYcHoZeRoSk8eR (7:16:58 PM): i'm guessing that you are younger then, because everyone i know has been playingit for years
PsYcHoZeRoSk8eR (7:17:22 PM): and yea, it is awesome, great game to just pick up and play
RebelNija (7:18:10 PM): i turn 18 in feb.
RebelNija (7:18:21 PM): but yeah, most of my friends don't play video games.
PsYcHoZeRoSk8eR (7:18:54 PM): really, not that young at all then... just getting a blast from the past then eh?
RebelNija (7:19:54 PM): yup =)
RebelNija (7:19:57 PM): I had nothin' better to do
PsYcHoZeRoSk8eR (7:20:32 PM): hell, i've done that a few times, except my school never takes snow days so it is usually on my time

RebelNija (7:23:56 PM): aahh
RebelNija (7:25:51 PM): yeah... i'm on the water temple
RebelNija (7:26:05 PM): and it's evil.. I think i'm going to go back out and buy a zora tunic
PsYcHoZeRoSk8eR (7:26:22 PM): lol, just use a warp at the beginning and your fine
RebelNija (7:26:52 PM): bah, i always forget to do that
RebelNija (7:33:10 PM): yeah... well I have my 300 rupies so I'm just going to get the tunic

Auto response from PsYcHoZeRoSk8eR (7:33:10 PM): ask p337

PsYcHoZeRoSk8eR (7:34:20 PM): can't you get one for free somewhere?
RebelNija (7:34:59 PM): yeah
RebelNija (7:35:02 PM): AFTER the water temple
PsYcHoZeRoSk8eR (7:35:24 PM): no, really... o could swear there was a way to get a free one before
PsYcHoZeRoSk8eR (7:35:37 PM): *i could
RebelNija (7:35:42 PM): yeah
RebelNija (7:35:47 PM): well, when king zora thaws out AFTER it
PsYcHoZeRoSk8eR (7:35:55 PM): psh
RebelNija (7:35:57 PM): but! i just bought it, so it doesn't really matter.. haha
PsYcHoZeRoSk8eR (7:35:59 PM): just go do that now
PsYcHoZeRoSk8eR (7:36:04 PM): lol, waste of money
PsYcHoZeRoSk8eR (7:36:29 PM): you don'e have to play the game in order... unless you hit a story block
RebelNija (7:37:41 PM): aah
RebelNija (7:37:44 PM): eh
RebelNija (7:37:50 PM): rupies are so easy to get
PsYcHoZeRoSk8eR (7:38:01 PM): psh... nver waste em?
PsYcHoZeRoSk8eR (7:38:06 PM): *'em
RebelNija (7:39:11 PM): haha
RebelNija (7:39:14 PM): that room where the guard is
RebelNija (7:39:16 PM): with all the pots
RebelNija (7:39:21 PM): ~50 rupies each time you go in
PsYcHoZeRoSk8eR (7:39:38 PM): =/
PsYcHoZeRoSk8eR (7:39:47 PM): fish = 200
PsYcHoZeRoSk8eR (7:39:54 PM): and those are east
PsYcHoZeRoSk8eR (7:39:58 PM): *easy
RebelNija (7:40:34 PM): oh yeah!
RebelNija (7:40:38 PM): i totally forgot about fish.
RebelNija (7:46:29 PM): i should probably get the other bottles too..
RebelNija (7:46:32 PM): i only have 2 of them
PsYcHoZeRoSk8eR (7:47:11 PM):

and you are on the water temple...
PsYcHoZeRoSk8eR (7:47:18 PM): and you paid for the zora tunic...
RebelNija (7:48:21 PM): hahaha
RebelNija (7:48:35 PM): i got my hylian shield for free =P
RebelNija (7:48:40 PM): and my goron tunic.
PsYcHoZeRoSk8eR (7:48:58 PM): if you didn't ......
RebelNija (7:49:12 PM): hahaha
RebelNija (7:49:13 PM): hmm
RebelNija (7:49:17 PM): what else can I screw up?
RebelNija (7:49:27 PM): I got all my skulltula things so far
PsYcHoZeRoSk8eR (7:49:30 PM): getting stuck in the water temple
RebelNija (7:50:13 PM): how do you get stuck?
PsYcHoZeRoSk8eR (7:51:02 PM): using all the keys too early
RebelNija (7:52:52 PM): haha
RebelNija (7:53:43 PM): hmm
RebelNija (7:53:46 PM): i just read the forum.
RebelNija (7:53:58 PM): you really think I'm a wolf? i was just trying to get discussion going/
PsYcHoZeRoSk8eR (7:54:01 PM): what, did you think i was joking?
PsYcHoZeRoSk8eR (7:54:12 PM): i told you what i was doing when i was doing ti
RebelNija (7:54:36 PM): haha
RebelNija (7:54:44 PM): no, i knew you were doing it.
RebelNija (7:55:08 PM): i just think it's silly is all.
PsYcHoZeRoSk8eR (7:55:26 PM): silly because you are a wolf?

Most of that was nonsense, but there is a little bit of information in there. And please don't make fun of my OoT stupidity...

**FoJaR** · 12-15-2005, 06:52 PM

RE: Re: RE: jTWG XVI: Back to the Beginning: Night 1

well my internet was out... i get it working again and BOOM.

dead.

GOOD LUCK TO EVERYONE BUT THE WOLVES.

WOLVES I HOPE YOU DIEEEEEEEEE

jTWG XVI: Back to the Beginning: GAME CALLED OFF

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