jTWG XVI: Back to the Beginning: GAME CALLED OFF

[dAnceguy117]

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I vote negro

[chickendude]

RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: jTWG XVI: Back to the Beginning:

I vote jew

[Specforces]

RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: jTWG XVI: Back to the Beginning:

Alright knock that shite off.

[dAnceguy117]

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fux dawg =(

Vote goes back to Iggy because I talked to negro and I think he's human.

[Specforces]

RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: jTWG XVI: Back to the Beginning:

Yeah Iggy definitely isn't human.

P.S.

GUARDIAN PM ME OR AIM ME OK THX BAI~

[Freak83]

Ok Thursday night I had the following conversation with Iggy. This was BEFORE Danceguy made his post on Page 2 renouncing his earlier claims against Nija. In it we basically agreed that Danceguy was acting suspicious and had claims against him:

Real Freak83: yo
Iggy911Mc: sup
Real Freak83: i just read your jTWG post
Iggy911Mc: awesome who r u again?
Real Freak83: Freak83 ^^
Iggy911Mc: aight thank
Real Freak83: i was hoping to speak with danceguy first and get some more perspective of his accusasions and then talk with you but apparently danceguy isn't online right now
Real Freak83: i'll try to speak with him later
Iggy911Mc: well it is 1am where im from and a lot of TWGers are EST
Real Freak83: 1:00 am here too
Real Freak83: anyway i wanted to speak with you as well
Iggy911Mc: ok just checking
Iggy911Mc: k shoot
Real Freak83: your the first person to really bring up another name
Real Freak83: other than niji (if i spelt that right)
Real Freak83: nija sorry
Iggy911Mc: so u think thats suspicious? i dont get ur logic
Real Freak83: i don't think that's suspicious
Real Freak83: danceguy is making early claims
Real Freak83: that's suspicious but on the other hand someone had to start some conversation as well
Real Freak83: right now i just want to hear from both sides to make a decision
Iggy911Mc: well theres a difference between starting a convo and making a vote
Iggy911Mc: hes basing his vote off seemingly no convos with anyone plus he talks like "woe is me that i never was a wolf." kinda weird to me bc igotrhythm did the same thing last game and he was a wolf.
Real Freak83: did danceguy bring up this fact ever before?
Real Freak83: (that he was never a wolf i mean)
Iggy911Mc: never played a game with him before
Iggy911Mc: hes usually TWG not jTWG
Real Freak83: yeah was just typing something out to say that was an unfair question
Real Freak83: i'll have to ask that to danceguy when he's on later
Real Freak83: anyway, so assuming this is the first time he's said that - that's a tick against him yes?
Iggy911Mc: a subtle one, one that u dont mention bc u want to see if he slips again but he i would say that its a tick lol
Real Freak83: ok
Real Freak83: the other thing i caught on my own, about his accusations on little evidence
Real Freak83: i already mentioned that in my post
Iggy911Mc: yea i mean just look at the time slots that occur between psycho and dancguy
Iggy911Mc: they both vote in the same 15 minutes or so and danceguy said he didnt want an early vote but does it anyway
Iggy911Mc: so to me thats where i think the suspicion is not in nija
Real Freak83: personally i don't think danceguy has any real case against nija
Iggy911Mc: he doesnt
Iggy911Mc: the fact that even voted (even if he did make it seem like a safety) just makes him look like hes starting a bandwagon
Iggy911Mc: danceguy is smart enough to know that most jTWGers will follow the flow rather than come up with their own conclusions
Real Freak83: most
Real Freak83: backtrack for a second though
Real Freak83: danceguy isn't dumb which is why i need to speak with him as well
Real Freak83: i doubt him and psycho are wolves
Real Freak83: BOTH of them anyway
Iggy911Mc: i know but i think hes smart to enough to start a bandwagon but not smart enough to know that someone will catch him
Real Freak83: the fact that they both voted for the same guy so close together is a very stupid thing for any wolves to do
Iggy911Mc: well i dunno, when me and vash were wolves we posted a lot to keep blame off us, dont know if thats what they r doing but its very similar
Real Freak83: i won't rule it out as impossible i just don't consider it "likely", that's IMO anyway
Iggy911Mc: yea but still i think just bc thats where the convo was going that they wouldnt seem suspicious if they did
Iggy911Mc: yea this is just a theory for now
Iggy911Mc: most anything u think is wrong for the first 2 or so days but it helps to have something to contribute even if it does end up being wrong
Real Freak83: better than silence
Iggy911Mc: which is what most jTWg is for about 1/3 of the players
Real Freak83: let's hope not in a game with only 12 players
Real Freak83: well 11 now
Iggy911Mc: which hurts the humans bc if u have a role u will play no doubt but if ur green then most dont care
Real Freak83: anyway
Real Freak83: i don't want to say anything more against danceguy at the moment until i at least speak with him first
Real Freak83: thanks for your input, gonna save this and sign off :)
Real Freak83: ttyl
Iggy911Mc: later

Now I wanted to talk with Danceguy first but that wasn't possible. Anyway a few minutes ago I had my first chance. Apparently there's been some stuff going on on AIM that hasn't hit the forums yet.

Real Freak83: phew good, finally catching you
P337 teh 1337: but I'm gonna be playing o2jam for like fifteen minutes
Real Freak83: ok, let's make this relativly short i guess
P337 teh 1337: I'll be back on in like 15 minutes if you need to talk to me more
Real Freak83: basically your first page posts against nija were suspicious and i wanted to talk to you then but didn't get the chance
P337 teh 1337: ah
Real Freak83: you cleared the confusion up on page 2 mainly
Real Freak83: when you weren't on i talked to iggy instead
Real Freak83: but still wanted to talk with you after
P337 teh 1337: mmhm
P337 teh 1337: well then you might think I'm more suspicious again, because my thoughts have reverted back to Nija
P337 teh 1337: but that was mostly just a conversation started
P337 teh 1337: starter*
Real Freak83: i haven't read the last bit of page 2 and any of page 3, give me a sec
P337 teh 1337: that stuff is pretty much nothing haha
P337 teh 1337: especially page 3
P337 teh 1337: bottom of page 2 might be important
Real Freak83: just you and chicken having a go at each other on page 3 basically
P337 teh 1337: with*
Real Freak83&#58; that too >_<
P337 teh 1337&#58; haha
P337 teh 1337&#58; it was just us screwing around
Real Freak83&#58; anyway, where have your thoughts gone back to nija here?  i don't see anything like that
P337 teh 1337&#58; AIM
Real Freak83&#58; oh
P337 teh 1337&#58; but it will take place over time
P337 teh 1337&#58; only time will tell
Real Freak83&#58; i'd be interested to hear, your original theories were what made me and iggy suspicious of you in the first place
P337 teh 1337&#58; you and iggy?
Real Freak83&#58; yeah
Real Freak83&#58; when we talked on AIM
Real Freak83&#58; i'll be posting the convo later
P337 teh 1337&#58; okay
P337 teh 1337&#58; but just to let you know
P337 teh 1337&#58; I'd be a bit wary of Iggy
Real Freak83&#58; this is exactly why i wanted to talk with both of you.  you guys are representing like the opposite sides of the alliances right now
Real Freak83&#58; not the best way to word it but it gets my point accross
P337 teh 1337&#58; ah
Real Freak83&#58; hold on, let me bring iggy's convo up
P337 teh 1337&#58; ok
P337 teh 1337&#58; and this is a longshot here
Real Freak83&#58; anyway i'm not sure what you see suspicious in iggy, i didn't catch anything odd when i talked with him
P337 teh 1337&#58; that started with a little spark from the forums
P337 teh 1337&#58; more has happened since then
Real Freak83&#58; on the forums or AIM?
P337 teh 1337&#58; AIM
P337 teh 1337&#58; nothing has happened since then on the forums haha
Real Freak83&#58; so nothing i would know about right now
Real Freak83&#58; i feel very out of the loop &#58;&#40;
P337 teh 1337&#58; &#58;o
P337 teh 1337&#58; it probably won't last very long
P337 teh 1337&#58; at some point, probably next time Iggy gets on
P337 teh 1337&#58; things are going to go haywire
Real Freak83&#58; ok
Real Freak83&#58; i'm gonna save this and make a post then
P337 teh 1337&#58; ok

Apparently there's new issues against Nija that I haven't heard of yet. I'm gonna be gone for a while tomorrow so I have to get out a vote now. Danceguy until I at least hear something concrete.

[Freak83]

Ok Thursday night I had the following conversation with Iggy. This was BEFORE Danceguy made his post on Page 2 renouncing his earlier claims against Nija. In it we basically agreed that Danceguy was acting suspicious and had claims against him:

Real Freak83: yo
Iggy911Mc: sup
Real Freak83: i just read your jTWG post
Iggy911Mc: awesome who r u again?
Real Freak83: Freak83 ^^
Iggy911Mc: aight thank
Real Freak83: i was hoping to speak with danceguy first and get some more perspective of his accusasions and then talk with you but apparently danceguy isn't online right now
Real Freak83: i'll try to speak with him later
Iggy911Mc: well it is 1am where im from and a lot of TWGers are EST
Real Freak83: 1:00 am here too
Real Freak83: anyway i wanted to speak with you as well
Iggy911Mc: ok just checking
Iggy911Mc: k shoot
Real Freak83: your the first person to really bring up another name
Real Freak83: other than niji (if i spelt that right)
Real Freak83: nija sorry
Iggy911Mc: so u think thats suspicious? i dont get ur logic
Real Freak83: i don't think that's suspicious
Real Freak83: danceguy is making early claims
Real Freak83: that's suspicious but on the other hand someone had to start some conversation as well
Real Freak83: right now i just want to hear from both sides to make a decision
Iggy911Mc: well theres a difference between starting a convo and making a vote
Iggy911Mc: hes basing his vote off seemingly no convos with anyone plus he talks like "woe is me that i never was a wolf." kinda weird to me bc igotrhythm did the same thing last game and he was a wolf.
Real Freak83: did danceguy bring up this fact ever before?
Real Freak83: (that he was never a wolf i mean)
Iggy911Mc: never played a game with him before
Iggy911Mc: hes usually TWG not jTWG
Real Freak83: yeah was just typing something out to say that was an unfair question
Real Freak83: i'll have to ask that to danceguy when he's on later
Real Freak83: anyway, so assuming this is the first time he's said that - that's a tick against him yes?
Iggy911Mc: a subtle one, one that u dont mention bc u want to see if he slips again but he i would say that its a tick lol
Real Freak83: ok
Real Freak83: the other thing i caught on my own, about his accusations on little evidence
Real Freak83: i already mentioned that in my post
Iggy911Mc: yea i mean just look at the time slots that occur between psycho and dancguy
Iggy911Mc: they both vote in the same 15 minutes or so and danceguy said he didnt want an early vote but does it anyway
Iggy911Mc: so to me thats where i think the suspicion is not in nija
Real Freak83: personally i don't think danceguy has any real case against nija
Iggy911Mc: he doesnt
Iggy911Mc: the fact that even voted (even if he did make it seem like a safety) just makes him look like hes starting a bandwagon
Iggy911Mc: danceguy is smart enough to know that most jTWGers will follow the flow rather than come up with their own conclusions
Real Freak83: most
Real Freak83: backtrack for a second though
Real Freak83: danceguy isn't dumb which is why i need to speak with him as well
Real Freak83: i doubt him and psycho are wolves
Real Freak83: BOTH of them anyway
Iggy911Mc: i know but i think hes smart to enough to start a bandwagon but not smart enough to know that someone will catch him
Real Freak83: the fact that they both voted for the same guy so close together is a very stupid thing for any wolves to do
Iggy911Mc: well i dunno, when me and vash were wolves we posted a lot to keep blame off us, dont know if thats what they r doing but its very similar
Real Freak83: i won't rule it out as impossible i just don't consider it "likely", that's IMO anyway
Iggy911Mc: yea but still i think just bc thats where the convo was going that they wouldnt seem suspicious if they did
Iggy911Mc: yea this is just a theory for now
Iggy911Mc: most anything u think is wrong for the first 2 or so days but it helps to have something to contribute even if it does end up being wrong
Real Freak83: better than silence
Iggy911Mc: which is what most jTWg is for about 1/3 of the players
Real Freak83: let's hope not in a game with only 12 players
Real Freak83: well 11 now
Iggy911Mc: which hurts the humans bc if u have a role u will play no doubt but if ur green then most dont care
Real Freak83: anyway
Real Freak83: i don't want to say anything more against danceguy at the moment until i at least speak with him first
Real Freak83: thanks for your input, gonna save this and sign off :)
Real Freak83: ttyl
Iggy911Mc: later

Now I wanted to talk with Danceguy first but that wasn't possible. Anyway a few minutes ago I had my first chance. Apparently there's been some stuff going on on AIM that hasn't hit the forums yet.

Real Freak83: phew good, finally catching you
P337 teh 1337: but I'm gonna be playing o2jam for like fifteen minutes
Real Freak83: ok, let's make this relativly short i guess
P337 teh 1337: I'll be back on in like 15 minutes if you need to talk to me more
Real Freak83: basically your first page posts against nija were suspicious and i wanted to talk to you then but didn't get the chance
P337 teh 1337: ah
Real Freak83: you cleared the confusion up on page 2 mainly
Real Freak83: when you weren't on i talked to iggy instead
Real Freak83: but still wanted to talk with you after
P337 teh 1337: mmhm
P337 teh 1337: well then you might think I'm more suspicious again, because my thoughts have reverted back to Nija
P337 teh 1337: but that was mostly just a conversation started
P337 teh 1337: starter*
Real Freak83: i haven't read the last bit of page 2 and any of page 3, give me a sec
P337 teh 1337: that stuff is pretty much nothing haha
P337 teh 1337: especially page 3
P337 teh 1337: bottom of page 2 might be important
Real Freak83: just you and chicken having a go at each other on page 3 basically
P337 teh 1337: with*
Real Freak83&#58; that too >_<
P337 teh 1337&#58; haha
P337 teh 1337&#58; it was just us screwing around
Real Freak83&#58; anyway, where have your thoughts gone back to nija here?  i don't see anything like that
P337 teh 1337&#58; AIM
Real Freak83&#58; oh
P337 teh 1337&#58; but it will take place over time
P337 teh 1337&#58; only time will tell
Real Freak83&#58; i'd be interested to hear, your original theories were what made me and iggy suspicious of you in the first place
P337 teh 1337&#58; you and iggy?
Real Freak83&#58; yeah
Real Freak83&#58; when we talked on AIM
Real Freak83&#58; i'll be posting the convo later
P337 teh 1337&#58; okay
P337 teh 1337&#58; but just to let you know
P337 teh 1337&#58; I'd be a bit wary of Iggy
Real Freak83&#58; this is exactly why i wanted to talk with both of you.  you guys are representing like the opposite sides of the alliances right now
Real Freak83&#58; not the best way to word it but it gets my point accross
P337 teh 1337&#58; ah
Real Freak83&#58; hold on, let me bring iggy's convo up
P337 teh 1337&#58; ok
P337 teh 1337&#58; and this is a longshot here
Real Freak83&#58; anyway i'm not sure what you see suspicious in iggy, i didn't catch anything odd when i talked with him
P337 teh 1337&#58; that started with a little spark from the forums
P337 teh 1337&#58; more has happened since then
Real Freak83&#58; on the forums or AIM?
P337 teh 1337&#58; AIM
P337 teh 1337&#58; nothing has happened since then on the forums haha
Real Freak83&#58; so nothing i would know about right now
Real Freak83&#58; i feel very out of the loop &#58;&#40;
P337 teh 1337&#58; &#58;o
P337 teh 1337&#58; it probably won't last very long
P337 teh 1337&#58; at some point, probably next time Iggy gets on
P337 teh 1337&#58; things are going to go haywire
Real Freak83&#58; ok
Real Freak83&#58; i'm gonna save this and make a post then
P337 teh 1337&#58; ok

Apparently there's new issues against Nija that I haven't heard of yet. I'm gonna be gone for a while tomorrow so I have to get out a vote now. Danceguy until I at least hear something concrete.

[Freak83]

Why the hell did that post twice... odd.

[chickendude]

damn, I just found out that jew was a blue so I'm switching my vote to rojo

[iggymatrixcounter]

Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: jTWG XVI: Back to the Beginning: Nig

Ok rofl guys XD
I was going to explain my vote, but then I decided to go with the flow XD.
Strange as it may seem, there was actually reasoning behind our three votes.

Well since I'm playing with ideas with nija, psychoskater, and danceguy, I'm voting minineo He's never active and never really plays (at least as far as I know) And I feel that voting any of the above three at least point could ruin any chance of a solid human defense.

Danceguy, my eye is mostly on you though, if you weren't such an experienced player, I'd vote you now but odds are you are human. (Hey guardian, danceguy would be a good person to guard since the wolves will be looking at him.... if he's a human.)

Why, hello contradiction. We had some other stuff we were talking about too, but that is one of the big ones.

Well first off, danceguy contradicts himself and no one suspects him. why? because he's a good player. The meaning of my post is clear. While I have my doubts about danceguy's role, the guardian should guard him because he would be a bad person to lose if he was human. I see nothing suspicious in there at all. There's really no contradiction there at all. Just 2 theorys mashed into one statement.

[chickendude]

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oh, wow
maybe I shouldn't trust spec when he's drunk

[Specforces]

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BWHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Freak83]

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BWHAHAHAHAHAHA

Oh my god. I think the military finally got to him.

[Specforces]

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No, I just find this game funny.

[dAnceguy117]

Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: jTWG XVI: Back to the Beginning: Nig

Well first off, danceguy contradicts himself and no one suspects him.

uh k we have that established

so uh

how do I contradict myself again

ps check out the awesome reply subject: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: jTWG XVI: Back to the Beginning: Nig